Equestria Girls 2: RAINBOW ROCKS (shorts + movie, Fall 2014)

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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:46 am

Grue wrote:Mwahahaha. No stop for EQG train. Give me all the brony tears! :gotcha:

Also apparently Sunset Shimmer is confirmed to be in it! Hopefully they don't ruin her.


I feel the only way they could ruin Sunset Shimmer in a sequel is if they tried to make her a villain again, or went the complete opposite, making her a compete pushover trying to redeem herself.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:46 am

Grue wrote:Also apparently Sunset Shimmer is confirmed to be in it! Hopefully they don't ruin her.

Source? Or is that another 4chan rumor that's easy to spread?

(That said, SS's return was pretty likely anyways)
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Postby Grue (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:56 am

Well, the image was found on 4chan but it's from some other forum that I don't recognize. Seems legit. :-I

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:57 am

I'm calling her Shifting Sunset now. :granny:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:01 am

In all fairness, Shifting Sunset may have been a working name, and it wasn't just that he forgot who the character was, but that he was used to saying the working name, or unless she gets a name change in this sequel.
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Postby Grue (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:07 am

Nah, Hasbro's toy division is notoriously bad at remembering anything that has to do with the show. I wouldn't trust their synopsises either.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:09 am

Grue wrote:Nah, Hasbro's toy division is notoriously bad at remembering anything that has to do with the show. I wouldn't trust their synopsises either.


Apple Jack :-I :applejargh:
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Postby Caldera (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:44 am

They're going K-On now? Whelp, alrighty then. :-I Maybe it'll be more interesting now that they're not partially rehashing the pilot.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:48 am

The HUGE push though? The new Equestria Girls movie, Rainbow Rocks. The girls are back and performing in a battle of the bands - each come with their own instruments, and Pinkie has a drum kit! There's a big stage for them to perform on, and loads of other characters will be released for the movie too. Best one? DJ Pon-3, who has a car! With the windshield that looks like sunglasses! That can be removed so you can wear them!


:vogue: Applejack, dear, what do you call a person who hangs out with musicians?
:squintyjack: Uh, I dunno.
:wink: The drummer.

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At least one good thing will come out of this: Remixed clips with NotPonies screaming out death metal or other genre-inappropriate music!
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Postby Venusy (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:15 am

Had a thought: if Flash Sentry is back, he will quite likely be playing in a boyband. :-I (Flash & The Boys? :-P )

An easy target for main "antagonist". It comes down to them vs. Rainbow Rocks in the finals. Finale has them singing together with Rainbow Rocks, all 12 of them win first prize. :v:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:23 am

Venusy wrote: Finale has them singing together with Rainbow Rocks, all 12 of them win first prize. :v:


Then Twilight takes the prize when she goes to her home dimension, and nobody wins! :-I
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:41 am

Glad that Sunset is confirmed, I was afraid that, since the first movie was basically a parallel of the FiM series opener, they would have taken the Season 1 route and completely ignored her existence post-conversion.

Now, as for when the movie will be released, I'll venture a guess: the DVD will be released before or on the same day as the book (April 8), but the movie will air on The Hub only after Season 4 has ended.

The reasons I think that are simple:

1. spoiling the whole movie by releasing a book about it months before would be an unprecedented (and dumb) move on Hasbro's part.
2. there was a fully animated sequence playing at the Toy Fair, which means production is pretty much at the final stage, if not over already; in fact, only four months before the Season 4 premiere, they couldn't even show a single animated scene from the first episode, which means the time between animation and release is pretty brief.

That would make approximately a 8 months interval between the two movies.
Considering they probably didn't greenlight Equestria Girls 2 immediately after the first one, but waited a while to gauge its success, here's hoping they manage to pull off a new movie every 6 months from now on. :allears:

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I believe these designs weren't posted here yet, they might as well appear in the movie:
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Yet-another-Edit:
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Postby Applepie (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:26 am

I am looking forward to more Sunset Shimmer too. :yay:

I'm mostly wondering how they go back.


Maybe a wardrobe. :smirk:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:29 pm

Eh, whatever. I certainly still wish this is A Thing That Did Not Exist, but the only way I will care about it is if it impacts the production of the presumed Season 5.

Otherwise, whatever, EqG can just sit solidly in the 'Not-canon' box as far as I'm concerned. Any objections to the product itself still exist, but given that train has already left the station :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:08 pm

Dexanth wrote:Eh, whatever. I certainly still wish this is A Thing That Did Not Exist, but the only way I will care about it is if it impacts the production of the presumed Season 5.

Otherwise, whatever, EqG can just sit solidly in the 'Not-canon' box as far as I'm concerned. Any objections to the product itself still exist, but given that train has already left the station :pinkieshrug:


Pretty much this.

I honestly can't find a reason to care about EQG. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:13 pm

Tailspin wrote:
Pretty much this.

I honestly can't find a reason to care about EQG. :pinkieshrug:


"Will Equestria fall into eternal darkness? Will Twilight's wings permanently be gone? How is Rarity to going react to Spike's confession of true love??? Stay tuned for the climatic heart pounding conclusion to Season 4. Next time on EqG2 :crack: "
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Postby Chaos Sonic (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:30 pm

Perrydotto wrote:I'm still not able to wrap my head around the fact that this is unironically happening in 2014.

Maybe it's unironically happening in 2015 instead. :-I

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The opposing band will feature a guy who looks like a lion, one who looks like an eagle, a guy who looks like a lizard, a guy who looks like a goat, and a guy who looks like a horse, who try to break up the HuMain Six by making them take the opposite of their usual personalities. :gotcha:
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Postby Kamek (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:07 pm

Dexanth wrote:Eh, whatever. I certainly still wish this is A Thing That Did Not Exist, but the only way I will care about it is if it impacts the production of the presumed Season 5.


Well, considering that we only got 13 episodes in Season 3... :bluh:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:20 pm

Is there proof that season 3 only had 13 episodes because of Equestria Girls?

Considering that the movie was a length of three episodes, they could still have done 23 regular episodes if that were the case.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:55 pm

Chaos Sonic wrote:Maybe it's unironically happening in 2015 instead. :-I


The opposing band will feature a guy who looks like a lion, one who looks like an eagle, a guy who looks like a lizard, a guy who looks like a goat, and a guy who looks like a horse, who try to break up the HuMain Six by making them take the opposite of their usual personalities. :gotcha:

And depending on how much Hasbro wants to push the toys, our band might have six girls who all look like horses. :wat:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:56 pm

They should all wear those horsehead masks.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:07 pm

Mr. Big wrote:Is there proof that season 3 only had 13 episodes because of Equestria Girls?

Considering that the movie was a length of three episodes, they could still have done 23 regular episodes if that were the case.

I don't think we have any proof to that effect. The best circumstantial evidence was that they mentioned in their investor meeting, "The development of the film was a small investment captured within our existing program development budget," so they may have simply been pulling the funding out of their general animation budget. Pound Puppies also had a short 13-episode season in 2012, just like MLP, and they went back to 26 episodes in 2013.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:11 pm

I thought the 13 episodes was for the purpose of reaching syndication.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:20 pm

^ My personal belief is that they struggled to achieve the 65 episodes benchmark for Syndication by the end of Season 3, which would explain the case of Pound Puppies too.
But we may never know for sure, although I wouldn't worry either way, because even in case S3 was cut in half to make room for the first movie, it doesn't necessarily mean S5 will get the same treatment, for two reasons:

1. If they were to repeat that hypothetical trend, then we would've gotten a half-sized Season 4, not S5, since Equestria Girls 2 has been in concurrent production with the former, much like EqG1 and S3.

2. Quoting myself from the first page:
ilcane87 wrote:Well, at the latest Investor Conference they mentioned plans to increase investments in their 3 core brands (Transformers, MLP, LPS), so I wouldn't be surprised if we kept getting 26 episodes and a movie every year. :pinkietoot:

So even if it wasn't possible before, a bigger budget may allow them to do both a full season and a movie every so often.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:24 pm

Tailspin wrote:I thought the 13 episodes was for the purpose of reaching syndication.

It makes sense for ponies, which went 26-26-13 and just needed to fill out another half-season. But Pound Puppies went 26-13-26. Maybe they just didn't feel that Pound Puppies could last 65 episodes after the first season's performance -- didn't they switch to Studio B somewhere in the middle? Edit: DHX took over after episode 7.
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Postby Rarietty (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:42 pm

Even if EqG1 was the reason that season 3 was short, they had season 3 of Pound Puppies that they had to get out of the way that was probably in production at the same time as EqG1. They don't have to care about paying to make Pound Puppies anymore, so part of the budget, time and resources that would have been used to make Pound Puppies season 4 could be going into EqG2 instead (rather than using the budget and time it takes to make 13 extra episodes in a season of MLP). That way, MLP gets a full season.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:55 pm

Another thing to consider: "Littlest Pet Shop" came out the same time season 3 did. At the time they had to work on MLP, Pound Puppies, and LPS.

Since "Puppies" is over, they don't have to stretch the budget a bit.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:31 pm

:v: And introducing Rene Auberjonois as the new voice of Anthro-Trixie. and Betty White as Sunset Shimmers.
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Postby fenster (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:16 pm

Mr. Big wrote:Is there proof that season 3 only had 13 episodes because of Equestria Girls?



I know this sounds shady/unrelieable as fuck, but I have heard from some faintly insider sources when I asked the questions (Syndication vs Movie) about the shortened Season 3 that it really was the Movie that cut into the budgets. Now, I'm not sure how far I could throw my source on this either since I agree with the Pound Puppie relation about how long Hasbro wanted its series's to be, but I'm just repeating what I've heard from someone who's close to the source on this so it must be more likely than you'd think. :pinkieshrug:

As for EQG2, I don't really care about how/what approach they take for a sequel, but to me the legitimacy hinges on whether the reasoning for Twilight to go back to the mirror world makes sense or is just a shoe-horned in reason to revisit the universe to setup a new toy line. As much negativity as there was around the first one, at least I felt that I could give it somewhat of a pass since it technically was a new kind of story setup from the usual show (as dumb as the plot was, though I guess its only slightly dumber than Power Ponies in its setup). I would've been fine if EQG was left as is, but any other attempt at getting Twilight to revisit that world sounds too much like a Marketing Push than a good story setup, so I'm not hopeful. Maybe if it didn't have Twilight visiting again at all, I'd feel better, but I dunno.
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Postby Grue (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:35 pm

EDIT: whatever
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:38 pm

Grue wrote:
Funny, because you seem to post a lot in this thread.


And your point is?
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Postby Grue (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:54 pm

My point is I'm tired of constant EG-bashing in this and completely unrelated threads, and I would appreciate if people who clearly don't care about EG would stop talking shit about it.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:58 pm

And you're telling me specifically because....
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:06 pm

Being someone who tends to be on the contrary side on many topics here on the forums :cheese: I can sorta understand Grue's situation. I mean, I remember the first few months when EqG was announced and everyone pretty much dog piled on EquestrianGuy and when the movie came out, still a large number disliked this movie and if memory serves, Grue was mostly (not all, like ilcane87) on his own and having to defend why he liked the film. And eventually it's going to get to a point where you're just exhausted from all the negativity towards it. And he kinda does make a good point about 'If you don't care about it, then don't give it attention'*

*Especially when that something has been beaten to death since its announcement last year.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:11 pm

Except I never outright bashed or talked shit about, I don't like the desings and high school setting, but never really said the movie is shit. Meh, yes. Not shit. For all I know Rainbow Rocks might end up so absurd it's fun.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:23 pm

Tailspin wrote: For all I know Rainbow Rocks might end up so absurd it's fun.


That's pretty much what I'm hoping for with this movie. I liked the first one enough because Sunset was a potentially cool character but not surprisingly she got pushed to the side for most of the film to do the whole "reintroduce the other main 5", and the interactions between Twilight and the others were enjoyable enough.

I wished they had gone just a little more absurd with the setup, it was pretty obvious they were holding back, but with this new rock band setup, hopefully it'll be a more fun movie, especially since they shouldn't have to spend so much time explaining who Sunset Shimmer is, the whole other worlds thing, etc.

FIM is already basically K-ON with ponies in Middle Earth, so with this we trade off the Middle Earth for hopefully the main 6 in a rock band.
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Postby fenster (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:45 pm

Umm, I'm not sure if my post was the cause of contention here, but for the record I didn't hate EQG, and actually liked a bunch of things from it. To clarify, when I said "the plot was dumb", I meant that I was not a fan of the setup for Twilight going through a Magical Portal that lead into Magical High School land that seemed primarily done for a marketing stand point rather than any thematic purpose; I meant to critique only in it's setup, but to me the execution of the actual plot itself (Twilight chasing down her crown, re-meeting all of her friends and getting them together to stop her new rival of sorts) I thought wasn't awful as some say it was, and that it had a bunch of nice little moments that actually made me happy when it called back and supported events from the show/pilot. I wasn't trying to shit on it intentionally, rather just pointing out one of my annoyances at it that I think will plague the sequel even more which has me worried. So I apologize if it seemed like I was doing a drive-by shit-opinion, I'd rather hope for EQG2 to be as good as it can be and avoid some of the things that bugged me in the movie previous.

I also really like the Cafeteria Song, if that helps. :v: Hopefully the battle of the bands setup means there will at least be some music just as good if not better than the first.

fake edit: okay maybe Grue wasn't talking about me there, couldn't actually tell, but I'll stand by this post still I guess.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:27 pm

I think Equestria Girls as a story had some problems, and I didn't think they needed to have Twilight travel from a parallel world, but you know what? The songs were pretty catchy. And I kind of liked some of the designs, they were cute. Maybe they'll turn things around in the sequel, who knows. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Thu Jan 23, 2014 11:17 pm

Nobody is setting out to dogpile anyone, but one of the key things to understand here, and something EquestriaGuy always failed to grasp, which is what caused a lot of friction : Other people's opinions are not invalidated because you feel differently.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:38 pm

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I think Equestria Girls as a story had some problems, and I didn't think they needed to have Twilight travel from a parallel world, but you know what? The songs were pretty catchy. And I kind of liked some of the designs, they were cute. Maybe they'll turn things around in the sequel, who knows. :pinkieshrug:


Pretty much where I fell on it. From a grand big picture stance the designs were problematic but as a product I think they mostly looked good and were a really easy way to have background characters in the same 'oh that's a cute design' way the show does. The songs were most all good and catchy, and once you get past the generic hamfisted kid's show stuff like "oh yea this chick who was super obviously going to try a coup or something, I maybe shoulda given you a heads up, oh well into the unexplored other world with no support at all with you because we gotta get this plot moving ASAP" and the straight up hilarious magical girl transformations the movie itself was a decent way to kill an hour and however many minutes.

EG2 could be better because it seems like they're going full on absurd "WE GOTTA START A ROCK BAND FOR REASONS" style story ripped right out of 80's cartoons, and now that we've gotten the establishment of the world done they can have the time to just have good character interactions.

Mark me as tentitively optimistic for Horsie People 2 Rainbow Boogaloo.
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