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Re: Offseason General Show Chat

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:54 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Well, you can make money any ways but putting out a higher quality product gets more people interested in it and thus, increases income.



Yeah I doubt Newborn cuties at their best made anywhere near as much money as FIM.

@wildfire: I think Filly Funtasia will make good paintube material in the future. :gotcha:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:56 pm

It'll last one season, maybe two if they're lucky. :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:28 pm

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This really does look awesome. Love that pose.

I wonder if the artist had her standing upright like that due to the way Shapeways prints stuff. Like, if the maximum size is relatively rectangular (and for sandstone models it is, at 25 x 38 x 20 cm) then more of that space could be used and more detail could be added in that pose. After all, the longest dimension of a pony (standing on all fours, at least) is going to be from its nose to its tail, so if you used the 38 cm dimension for length then you'd only be able to produce something 25 cm tall, which wouldn't work here since the artist also wanted to sell a 28 cm tall (and $940 :wowzers:) model.


He also made one of Trixie, complete with peanut butter crackers:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:43 pm

Yeah, when I have the money deff gonna order those Twy & Trixie statues! :awesomedash:
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:26 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Edit: Upcomung MLP knock-off Filly Funtasia has a new trailer.

Great, I've always wondered what FiM would look like if all the characters were slack-jawed mouthbreathers. :smirk:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:21 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:He also made one of Trixie, complete with peanut butter crackers:
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Why are fan artists the worst offenders when it comes to hoofhands? :rariwhat:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:33 pm

Cause HoofHands Are Magic! :v:

*personally I like hoof hands cause it's fun to see ponies hold things like people despite not having fingers*

*cartoon characters have no need of Logic!*
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:43 pm

I mean, like, anatomy-wise it's just a human with weird shaped legs and no fingers. No sense for how the limbs should bend, how the body would be posed if this were an actual quadruped temporarily up on two feet instead of just another flavor of Chip & Dale-esque cartoon humanoid, anything like that. Are "ponies" really what people want, or is it just costumes for abstract characters?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:37 am

While that is an especially bad case of hoofhandery, I otherwise think that sort and degree of humanish-ness is okay. It isn't really that far beyond what the show does (especially for pegasi; I remember hearing a few accounts from the animators of how they had more freedom with flying characters since those ponies didn't always need to be standing on the majority of their legs), and considering how far removed they already are from a real horse, I find it easier to think of them as cartoon characters first and horse-like creatures second. So, eh. :pinkieshrug:


Besides, looking at the other angles of the Trixie figure, the artist still seems to understand the general structure of her hind legs.
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:52 am

Hoofhands ain't got nothin' on featherfingers.

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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:05 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:I want this soo bad!!! Damn u Shapeways!!! :awesomedash: :twonk:

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Oh cool, the platinum version is only like $93,000.00.That is practically a steal at that price. :smirk:



Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you G5. This is it, guys. This is what you been waiting for FiM to die off for. I'll just go get a head start and boot up the forum site for this now and skip the rush. I'm sure it will be ever as good if not better then FiM. It has to be because this is what everyone has been talking about. :-/

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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:46 am

Basically, Filly Funtasia is what non-pony fans think actual pony is like.
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Postby doodlesplat (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:16 am

In case anyone was seriously considering, :v:
Shapeways wrote:Platinum models are 3D printed using a complex five-step process. First, the model is printed in wax using a specialized high-resolution 3D printer. It is then put in a container where liquid plaster is poured in around it. When the plaster sets, the wax is melted out in a furnace, and the remaining plaster becomes the mold.

Molten Platinum is poured into this mold and set to harden. The plaster is broken away, revealing your new product. The product is then carefully cleaned and hand-polished to give it the trademark Platinum luster. Please be aware that polishing can wear down or fill in very fine details and edges. Polishing also removes a bit of material from your product in order to smooth it out, so the exact volume may be slightly smaller than that of your digital model.

Shapeways use 95% purity platinum and charges $1750.00 per cm3 plus $100.00 handling fee—that's about twice the market price of the raw metal. It'd probably be more economical to have them print you the model in some cheap unpolished material, then you go find someone else to do the plaster mold and platinum casting and final polishing steps.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:18 am

It must be making a dime for it to have reached the point to get a show.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:25 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:It must be making a dime for it to have reached the point to get a show.



A dime yes, but I doubt it's piggybank is as full as pony's. From what I've heard this show was made soley to compete/piggy back FIMs success. I've also heard that while some stores in the U.K./Europe may carry more FF toys then MLP toys, they don't sell nearly as fast.


But hey, can't blame people for wanting a piece of the pony pie, or make a legit stab at competing. Heck, I'm suprised we don't have more stuff like Filly Fantasia by now. Where's the Disney Princesses: Horse Adventures, or Dreamwork's Unicorn Knights!? XD



Anywho... Yea that Shapeways pony stuff is ridiculously pricy... Just how many millionaire Bronies are there!? :v:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:27 am

It doesn't have to be as much as MLP is making, it appears that they just wanted to because some how they got the money for it.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:18 am

People always seem to try and copy something when it's a hit. Just remember how many knockoffs of Jaws that were released. How many of them are remembered as fondly as the original?
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:56 am

Their show could be more popular it it modelled after the character's personalities more so then their appearance. It is like they just don't get it. At least Silver Spoon has her own show now. :v:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:06 am

A Silver Spoon show would be better than that. :v:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:07 am

C'mon it's not that bad... is it? :starity:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:57 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:It must be making a dime for it to have reached the point to get a show.

Or it could be like Johnny Test, in that it's so cheap to produce that there's little point in not making more of it.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:45 am

That's true. If it's made for practically nothing, they'll make it for as long as possible regardless of feedback, like Johnny Test.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:44 pm

I just hope the same can be said of normal ponies as well. :starity:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:51 pm

Well, the thing is, MLP has actual quality put into it so therefore, it takes more time to make a good product than a cheap one.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:53 pm

Yeah, but it's still considerably cheap to make my production standards. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:32 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Or it could be like Johnny Test, in that it's so cheap to produce that there's little point in not making more of it.


But wouldn't that CGI fashion be more expensive than a Johnny Test style?
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:58 pm

Depends on the CGI software used. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:14 pm

It looks pretty cheap. They already did the mods they just have to move and voice them.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:19 pm

I wonder what animation software they use to make it. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:23 pm

That team fortress game engine? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:32 pm

Source Filmmaker? Unlikely. And even still, regardless of the animation used, creating the base models is still expensive, regardless of what's used.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:45 pm

Yeah but like they are already made so I don't think it would be to expensive for future seasons? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 7:49 pm

It wouldn't be a problem for future seasons, but the initial model creation is expensive, and so that money had to have come from somewhere, and assuming they aren't robbing any banks, clearly that line must be making enough money for them to pay for the models.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:12 pm

If they are able to steal a fifth of pony profits then there you go...
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:52 pm

I doubt that it'll take even that much. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:04 pm

You're right. I was being generous. :smirk:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:06 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:

The small one. The medium one is $120 & the large one in almost $1000!


Small:
IN: 2.873 w x 3.968 d x 2.017 h
CM: 7.298 w x 10.078 d x 5.122 h

Medium:

IN: 4.231 w x 5.802 d x 2.917 h
CM: 10.746 w x 14.736 d x 7.408 h

Large ($930)
IN: 8.46 w x 11.604 d x 5.831 h
CM: 21.488 w x 29.474 d x 14.812 h

That's still way out of line with what you'd expect the price to be. I wonder why? Maybe a special large machine that they have to amortize across the figures produced with it?

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Why are fan artists the worst offenders when it comes to hoofhands? :rariwhat:


That and for a quadruped, they certainly have the hind legs of a biped. It's off model; I want them to look and act more like horses.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 6:44 am

Yeah. I'm starting to notice that a lot of them give the MLP characterw hoofhands, if they just don't make them bipedal.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:07 am

You know what is worse then hand hooves? Mitten hooves... Never watch Pony Tales. :amazed:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Oct 18, 2014 11:27 am

Mitten hooves...how do they hold things? :starity:
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