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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:25 am

I played some Legends of Equestria this weekend. I had a Soft Snow OC. I went exploring, picked up a bunch of rubies, bought clothes. It was a lot of fun. I can't wait for this game to get it's official release.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:26 pm

Here's a rad fan animated Rainbow Dash :awesomedash:
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Postby Throbulator (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:33 pm

Is she fretting the same chord over and over?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:35 pm

That's something that everyponytothelimit pointed out back in March:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:56 pm

Even the boots look great if their feet have definition and aren't just chunks.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:04 pm

Throbulator wrote:Is she fretting the same chord over and over?

A C chord, it looks like
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:10 pm

Soft Snow wrote:I played some Legends of Equestria this weekend. I had a Soft Snow OC. I went exploring, picked up a bunch of rubies, bought clothes. It was a lot of fun. I can't wait for this game to get it's official release.
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How easy is it to create existing main characters? :gotcha:

I can imagine the possible initial confusion over whether it's an NPC or human player :-P
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Postby Throbulator (?) » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:00 pm

Octavia wrote:A C chord, it looks like


What would it sound like, if one were to recreate it?
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:28 am

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How easy is it to create existing main characters? :gotcha:

I can imagine the possible initial confusion over whether it's an NPC or human player :-P

Well the game doesn't actually use the names from show to avoid any copyright infringements. Ponyville is called "Ponydale" and so forth. Hair designs are from the show and you can pick what ever color you want, plus people are allowed to have the same name. While I never tried it, if you wanted to you could make all the ponies from the show. There might be name filters but you can design the pony how ever you want.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 1:53 am

I'm surprised the game has survived as long as it has with "Equestria" in the title.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:20 am

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What would it sound like, if one were to recreate it?

Given the fact that she's not plugged into anything and I don't see any wireless transmitter, it would probably be very quiet. :fluttershock:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:11 am

Filly Vanilli: Equestria Girls Edition :awkward:
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 7:55 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I'm surprised the game has survived as long as it has with "Equestria" in the title.

Well, I don't think Hasbro can legally trademark "Equestria" given that is it an actual geological location in Pretoria. That would be like a company trying to trademark London or the Grand Canyon or something silly.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 2:00 pm

Seems like they could trademark that name in the context of referring to a magical world of talking cartoon horses. If it couldn't be trademarked then I think Hasbro would've asked Lauren Faust to pick a different name.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 4:08 pm

Maybe they only really cared about being able to trademark Ponyville, since it was a holdover from G3 and they were still in "looking for a worthy successor to our last line" mode at the time. Outside of Equestria Girls, I'm struggling to think of any merchandise that used the name in any significant way.
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Postby Throbulator (?) » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:35 pm

Guys stop. I looked it up:

EQUESTRIA is a trademark of New York Therapeutic Riding Center, Inc.. Filed in December 18 (2009), the EQUESTRIA covers Therapy for humans with use of horses

https://trademarks.justia.com/778/97/eq ... 97179.html

http://www.equestria.org/

They're a non-profit horse therapy organization. :allright:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:22 am

Yea, but Trademarks can be for different things. It's why Apple has a lock on like, Apple used in tech, but you know, people can still sell apples of the food variety.

The reason a lot of the G1 names weren't used is that something has a lock on all/part of the trademark they'd want to use in toys/media/etc, like how Twilight the awful vampire series necessitated turning her into Twilight "Sparkle" (Getit? Yes, that is the actual reason she's Sparkle) :twience:

At least I'm pretty sure on that last bit, Lauren wink wink nudge nudged that one time on DA like 5 years ago :v:
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:44 am

Hasbro is being sued for using the font we all know and love:
http://www.equestriadaily.com/2016/01/h ... erica.html

5 years after Hasbro started using it, this company suddenly decides "hey that's our Generation B font, you're using it without permission!" (after all of the C&D's Hasbro has handed out to fans, they're getting one themselves :smirk: ).

They even acknowledged Hasbro uses it on their site:
About: Inspired by the opening titles of the Walt Disney film, The Parent Trap (1961), designed by T. Hee, Bill Justice and Xavier Atencio, Generation B is a playful and offbeat font with a late 50s-early 60s vibe that goes from beatnik coffeehouse to rustic beach shack. It’s basically an all-caps font, with big and small versions of each letter plus some alternates. With a little tweaking, you can create the look of quirky hand-lettering.

Generation B is one of the official fonts used in the TV series My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic! Enjoy, my little Bronies!


I smell fish. Not sure if it's coming from Hasbro or Font Bros. though (leaning toward Font Bros.).

Edit: WOW this part is insane:

"Direct that Defendant deliver for destruction at Defendant’s expense, inter alia, all

computer files, hard drives, solid state drives, flash drives, disks, CD-ROMs, DVD’s, and

all other recorded media together with all other items, including but not limited to, all

products, goods, merchandise, television and film properties, and advertising materials

showing the use of Plaintiff’s copyrighted font software, in its possession or under their

control that were created through the unlawful use of Lohner’s Copyrighted work."


In other words they want EVERYTHING destroyed including the actual episodes.

And apparently the $150 grand they want is per infringement. In other words every single thing that used the font. Let's see: 100 episodes equals $15,000,000. A couple thousand Twilight brushables would be $300,000,000....
Yeah that isn't gonna' happen. It's definitely sounding like a patent troll money grab situation.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:47 am

The various elements of FiM's branding, including materials which would be using this font, have been out in the wild since 2010. It seems a bit suspect that this company would only notice Hasbro's alleged unlicensed use of the font now.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:11 am

I'd always assumed they had it licensed, too, so I suspect there are some shenanigans going on. I mean, this seems a pretty huge oversight/infringement if not and Hasbro isn't stupid, considering how many ponies become X DAZZLE Y or X Y DAZZLE when they get toyified, just to protect Trademarks.
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:17 am

Font Bros. are trying their luck.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:54 pm

I'm a little worried yet not to concerned.
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Hasbro has some good lawyers. Far better then what I would imagine Front Bros. could afford. Their legal department is rather top notch. I can't imagine they would credit something on their official site without having the legal power to do so.

The logo is an internationally recognized brand for over half a decade. It has been used all over the internet and has appeared in countless news articles. It would be pretty hard for Front Bros. to claim they didn't know it was being misused until recently. Besides, do you know how many other companies have used that front in their own merchandise that would have to be removed if Hasbro lost? Do you think McDonald's would sit idly by and let that happen?

If say Front Bros. did win at worst it would probably mean Hasbro would just have to pay royalties. But I imagine at this point Front Bros. lost the legal right to prevent others from using their front.

This is a good lesson as to why Hasbro drops the C&D hammer on the fandom all the time. Because of this. They don't want to lose the right to control their own brand. Such as Front Bros. probably will. If they had any legal right to it at all.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:58 pm

There's no way this suit is going to kill FiM or even make any sort of a dent in Hasbro's pocketbook.
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Postby fenster (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:33 pm

Should've switched to Celestia Medium. :gotcha:
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Postby Pocket (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:17 pm

Soft Snow wrote:This is a good lesson as to why Hasbro drops the C&D hammer on the fandom all the time. Because of this. They don't want to lose the right to control their own brand. Such as Front Bros. probably will. If they had any legal right to it at all.
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Well, you can't lose a copyright to genericization, which is what fonts are protected by. But yeah, I think "why didn't you speak up sooner?" is going to be the key defense here and Font Bros. is going to lose big time. Why are they even demanding that things be destroyed as opposed to just, you know, being paid out the nose for all the royalties they didn't get before? What kind of awful person would rather see the death of a brand rather than a buttload of money? Is... is there just someone on their legal team who really really hates My Little Pony?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:28 pm

My guess is that Font Bros.'s lawyer is aiming big in the initial suit so as to have room for negotiation if Hasbro offers to settle.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:48 am

I'm no legal expert, but looking over the Font Brothers site it offers 1,000 impression licenses for $100. Each customer design requiring 1 impression license. So that is like 10 cents a license.

Skimming over their legal agreement it seems pretty straight forward, as long as you bought the licenses, which I imagine Hasbro didn't pirate, you can use the font for commercial use as long as you don't give out the font along with it. It also said season or film release only requires one impression licenses. So with 6 seasons and 4 movies they only used up 10 licenses. I didn't notice an expiration date for the licenses.

Unless Hasbro stole the font, bought the wrong license, used up all the impressions or gave out the font, they are not in violation of the terms they agreed too.

Maybe Font Brothers only expected small businesses like T-shirt designers or custom wears to buy their fonts and not international corporations to do so. Maybe they saw how much money Hasbro was making and wanted a bigger piece of the pie. Or maybe this is all just a publicity stunt. Before the law suit I never heard of them, now I have been to their site a dozen times already.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 2:16 pm

I doubt it's going to generate much publicity outside of our fandom and among people who really love fonts.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:08 pm

Things with the fandom normally sell really well. I can imagine it's association with the show really boosted sales for that font. That is why I believe they put it on the font's description as it being the official font of the show. I mean I never heard of them until this law suit, have you?

But what confuses me is why Font Brothers say it cost them millions in revenue. I can't imagine that many people buying that font without it's success tied to the show.

Legal theory crafting, what if because the show was so popular that all the fans started to use that font without paying for it? Costing the company potentially millions. So now they blame Hasbro for not properly protecting the copyright resulting in it's unintended unauthorized distribution thus technically committing piracy?

The big question in my mind right now is will they continue to use the font after this or switch to a new one? While the show is doing great right now, a new logo after six years might put some renewed interest back into the show.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:27 pm

Soft Snow wrote:Things with the fandom normally sell really well. I can imagine it's association with the show really boosted sales for that font.

Nah. Everyone just gets Celestia Medium because they're cheapasses with bad taste.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:36 pm

So, Season 6 is dropping this Spring :awesomedash:

Shortest wait yet, aww yea.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:44 pm

There's also a very brief preview clip out. Check the spoiler forum if you want to watch it or talk about it.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 8:15 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I doubt it's going to generate much publicity outside of our fandom and among people who really love fonts.


I'm waiting for KefkaFloyd's longform article about it :v:

From what little I've heard, Font Bros basic argument is that Hasbro did buy one of those basic, cheapo licenses for the font and then proceeded to plaster it on billions of dollars worth of merchandise. So the reason this is only coming out now is that Font Bros has been trying to negotiate a better licensing scheme for themselves based on how much Hasbro has used the font, and that negotiation has probably failed recently. Hasbro thinks the license they have covers them just fine, and Font Bros apparently thinks their standard commercial license has limits on use.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:54 pm

Dexanth wrote:So, Season 6 is dropping this Spring :awesomedash:

Shortest wait yet, aww yea.


This bodes well for a season 7 before the movie, doesn't it? :ponder:

Especially after the movie got delayed to the end of the year.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:01 pm

It got delayed? I haven't heard anything after the news a while back saying that it was to air November 3 next year.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu Jan 28, 2016 11:50 pm

I haven't heard of any delays either and their wiki page still has it set for November 3rd. I can't imagine them pushing it back any further and not simply reschedule it for next year.

Either way it might mean we will get a season 7 for next spring before the movie comes out.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:23 am

November 3 is a delay from the previously mentioned spring 2017
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:07 am

Wayoshi wrote:November 3 is a delay from the previously mentioned spring 2017


Yeah, this. They could easily fit 2 seasons between now and November 2017, not so much if it was Spring. And it wouldn't make much sense to release this season so early if they weren't planning on having another one.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:46 am

I'm curious to know what is the staff difference between season one and season six are? I mean how many original people from season one are left? Just so I can get an idea of how much has changed since then.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:11 am

Larson, Polsky, and Morrow might be the only original writers left, and I don't think there's confirmation that they're returning for S6.
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