Equestria Girls 2: RAINBOW ROCKS (shorts + movie, Fall 2014)

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:53 pm

Ah, fuck.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:10 pm

Yeah, I was expecting that.
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:14 pm

Battle of the Bands? Okay, I'm officially excited for this new movie. It sounds so wonderfully lame! :awesomedash:

:pcstare: Princess Twilight! You must return to Dougworld at once! The Humain 5 need you to defeat Sunset Shimmer and the Canterlot High Nightmare Band with one of your trademark Royal Friendship Solos! Quickly, you must get your hair highlighted before it's too late!
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Postby Rarietty (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:16 pm

Okay, so in other words, nothing surprising is happening here. :smug:

However, I would have prefered it if they just used their valuable resources to do a genuinely good reboot of Jem and the Holograms instead.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:19 pm

No surprise here, as I said before; only excitement. :yay:

Apparently, they also showed a brief teaser:
The film is seemingly coming. I spent the day at the Toy Fair in London where they were heavily pushing Equestria Girls 2 - Twilight heads back to the mirror world and the girls put a musical group together. The apparent title is Rainbow Rocks (as that's what their backdrop was on the stage set for the toys). No more information at all, just a short loop of footage running endlessly of a dance routine that's in the movie. Pinkie will be playing the drums!

And that's it! There's a whole range of new toys including a DJ Pon-3 car, which I assume is also going to be in the film. When will we see this all though? No idea. Sometime this year though.

Hopefully we'll get it soon. :allears:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:20 pm

That's... strange. I wonder if they've just abandoned any pretense of using EqG for teaching friendship lessons at all.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:20 pm

ilcane87 wrote:Twilight heads back to the mirror world

gg Meghan, I see you're barely trying again.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:21 pm

Wayoshi wrote:gg Meghan, I see you're barely trying again.

You really think she had a say in this? :-I
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:23 pm

If we're going to have the fucking cliche garbage band movie, there's even less of a reason for Pony!Twilight to be there this time (it's going to be some garbage MacGuffin excuse probably, whatever, but still). Just fucking bring in real Human!Twilight or let Sunset Shimmer integrate into Mane 6 as suggested, something to MAKE THIS HAVE A MODICUM OF INTERESTING PREMISE.

EDIT: Meant garage band, leaving mistake in there because it is garbage anyways.

What garbage. I'm going to have to try to enjoy this ironically I guess... but EqG1 really doesn't even apply because holy fuck, it was boring. And a reminder I can't get my epic 4-parter length pony adventure.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:35 pm

Look at it this way, Wayoshi. The reason for Twilight to go back to Dougworld and the entire premise of the movie are both apparently so paper-thin that they might as well not even be connected to FiM. I can say right now that I won't actually be watching it.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:07 am

C'mon, I didn't get any presents on my birthday and this comes to light??? :whine:
(well, technically it's already the 22nd here so I guess it doesn't count :-P )

In any case, on one hand it was to be expected. My trust and confidence in Hasbro has deteriorated so terribly quick after S3 to the point they're like the Post-mid 2000s Lucasarts to me :unenthused: , totally ignorant of their fans who wanted X (the sequels to KOTOR, Battlefront, etc) and instead producing things that no.one wants (the Force Unleashed franchise).

And having seen their horribly terrifying Behind the Scenes :ohgawd: , all the Hasbro execs pretty much already said: "Yeah, expect more from us, fools :iamapony: "

I don't even expect a FiM movie any time soon or ever. :pinkieshrug: If there is, it'll probably be used to promote the Sunny Sands Beach toy set or something marketable. If you're expecting some bold adventures like G1 then I doubt it'll come to light

As Craig said:
It’s difficult trying to make a show [about stories and characters] for a toy company.


However... like I said months ago, I'm not all gloom and doom with the existence of EqG2. In fact, I once said it looked more promising than S4 :v: (though that was more in retaliation to Pinkie Apple Pie). Even though I did not like EqG, the one thing I did like and might still like is how the EqG universe hasnt been explored yet. FiM Equestria seems like 70% of it has been explored and it's taking an EXTREEEEMELY long time to do so to the point i've lost patience and interest now (plus I still think S1 did the best worldbuilding). So I'd like to see something fresh with the characters and hopefully McCarthy won't do a barebones checklist story like last time because...
what I'm also hoping for this sequel is that they tear the page containing "restraint" off the dictionary and go Ballz Crazy with the setting. EqG felt like a lazy checklist and more written out of spite than anything ("I dont want to write about EqG so i'll write it half heartedly).

Yes, no one wants EqG but at the same time I don't want to waste my money and time watching something lazy for 66 minutes.

Just have fun with the awful conditions you're in
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Who knows, maybe it's not McCarthy who's writing it. And I'll die in a mist of rainbows and happiness if Polsky is writing it cuz the man knows no restraint.*
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So yeah, "GRRRRRRR" to Hasbro but also I'm hoping the sequel just lets loose much to most fans' tears
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*Honestly, he actually does do world building well, creating new characters, and cranks the WTF-meter to 11. Seriously, give the writing role to Polsky :flail:
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Postby Discord (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:31 am

Why not just revive Jem or something?

Well, this is pretty awful. And sending !PonyTwilight in it makes it seem more awful. And you just knoooooow that Brad is coming back for this to. And that some exec is going to say "why didn't you push that farther last time? Girls this age loveeeee boys in their movies!" :-I

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At least we might get some decent music...sequences...I guess?
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:36 am

I'm still not able to wrap my head around the fact that this is unironically happening in 2014.
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Postby Venusy (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:49 am

My expectations for this are so low that I actually wrapped around into being mildly interested. :-I

One of the things about EqG1 was the potential it had, and how little of that it used. There's none of that with this summary. There very likely isn't going to be much worldbuilding to be had here. No commentary on how the humane 5 became friends with no human Twilight. There doesn't even have to be an antagonist here, no putting Twilight in front of a mirror and going "this is what you could have turned out like". No one expects greatness from this.

It sounds like pure fluff. While that isn't normally what I want from pony, they've effectively said upfront that it's pure fluff. Because it's so disconnected, because there's no expectation of anyone really learning any lessons from this or there being much in the way of story whatsoever, they can do pretty much anything they like without people caring that much. We'll probably get some decent songs and maybe some visual or fandom gags, that's it. :pinkieshrug:

Would I prefer a proper FIM movie? Of course. But EqG2 was going to happen, and I'd rather it be like this than something that got hopes up again.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:03 am

Guys, it's a press release from a toy fair. Of course the synopses released is going to focus on the toy tie-in. Just because there's no obvious tie-in to a "friendship lesson" in what they've released, it's bad to assume the movie is going to be garbage without knowing anything about it. As a fan of the first movie, I'm unironically looking forward to this, just because it sounds like a lot of fun.

I gotta say though, reading stuff in threads on this messageboard makes me think I'm the only one here who liked both the movie and the implications behind the parallel universe. This team (producers, animators, voice actors, composers, etc) has yet to put out anything that's bad, and I really don't think the trend's going to start here.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:06 am

I can't wait to see how this feature-length movie adaptation of PINKIEQUEST turns out. :pinkietoot:
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Postby Dal (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:19 am

What I don't get is why pony Twilight has to go again. I'm assuming that means Spikedog is making a reappearance as well along with more Flash Sentry stuff. Honestly, Human Twi should have showed up at the end of the first movie or better yet, use Sunset Shimmer instead.

If they used Sunset, I would actually be invested in this; I really want to see her learn and grow like Twi did. A new character for new friends, but they have to use Twilight because reasons.

The only reason I can think why Twi would need to go (story wise) is to awaken the rainbow power/new Elements/whatever in Dougworld. Even then I find it hard to care.

You can't fault anyone for this, yes even Hasbro as they just doing what is logical. But I probably will not see this, and bemoan the fact we will never get a proper FiM movie and every other opportunity this series has failed to realize.

I'm sorry Meghan :fluttersmith:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:26 am

You know what I find odd? Whenever I'm absent from here for most of the day, there's always something big that happens when I'm out. :gonkity:

That being said, I really hope Twilight doesn't have to return to this land. How much time was it that Twilight would have had to wait to return if she missed getting through the portal that night? If I recall correctly, it was a large time period, was it not? (Not years, but still not just a few days.) So that would mean some time has passed again, why would Twilight need to really go back? Now you can have this problem where she would be divided between her human friends and her pony friends, who are still 2 very different groups of friends. This is a conflict I see that could pop up that I don't think needs to be explored, I feel like the "Humain 5" (and maybe 6 if they get their own Twilight) should be one group, and the Mane 6 should be another group. No need for constant crossing overs.

That being said, maybe it won't be horrible beyond watchability. Now having a little bit of experience, perhaps they know what they'll be doing this time around?
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:35 am

I'd think it'd be pretty funny if the Rainbow Power or keys or whatever's in the box at the end happens to be a cliffhanger in the end of Season 4... CUZ IT"S GOING TO BE THE PAYOFF AT EQG2!!!
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Oh gawd, imagine the post finale comments :v:

And technically, there haven't been any real villains hinted at for the Season 4 finale or anything other than: There's a box that no one knows anything about. :ponder: Even S1 had a more clearly hinted finale

So the box can pretty much have anything like... magical instruments to perhaps help out their parallel selves in a titanic galactic clash between two rival bands for the very balance of the universe :-I
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:44 am

It's just too bad that there isn't a super popular pony show on their own network they could make a movie out of.


Edit: :-/ Shit, more Flash Sentry....



:rainbert: This or no forgiveness, Meghan.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:45 am

AppleCobbler44 wrote:I'd think it'd be pretty funny if the Rainbow Power or keys or whatever's in the box at the end happens to be a cliffhanger in the end of Season 4... CUZ IT"S GOING TO BE THE PAYOFF AT EQG2!!!
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That's how they're going to make everyone watch Equestria Girls 2. It's all a trap. :twonk:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:55 am

:wingsright: We'll be called "Smartly Pretty".

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:gonkity: :bluh: NO WAY!

:party: We're called KISSY BOOTS

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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:05 am

Oh for god's sake. I take it the EQG toys have sold well?

I guess this was inevitable, I'm surprised they aren't just making a TV show out of it. Wish they'd at least give us a single regular pony movie :ohrarity:
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Postby Dal (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:07 am

Ehh, thinking about it, this could still be a really fun movie. I still wish it had nothing to do with FiM. Yes they may all have the same names but they aren't the same characters, and tying Twilight to them just seems wrong.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:10 am

Adelor Lyon wrote:Guys, it's a press release from a toy fair. Of course the synopses released is going to focus on the toy tie-in. Just because there's no obvious tie-in to a "friendship lesson" in what they've released, it's bad to assume the movie is going to be garbage without knowing anything about it. As a fan of the first movie, I'm unironically looking forward to this, just because it sounds like a lot of fun.

Maybe it will be "fun," but "fun" alone isn't the reason why I watch this show. One of the biggest reasons I ended up liking FiM is because of the way it stands above so many typical shows for girls with its particularly well-made characters and stories, and lessons in friendship and socialization that are oftentimes meaningful for everyone. Both of these, the characters and the moral lessons, were reduced to pitiful shadows of themselves in EqG, with several unpleasantly typical elements (becoming popular, Brad, etc.) being added in. I remember the first synopses for EqG, and I remember hoping that the movie would deliver despite the initial warning signs, and to this day I'm still let down by it. That's why I don't trust Rainbow Rocks to be any good.
Highbrow Dash wrote:Or for god's sake. I take it the EQG toys have sold well?

From what I've heard, despite some initial popularity for the movie (both at the box office and in DVD sales), the toys have largely fallen flat.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:10 am

What if Hasbro was actually trying to work on an Equestria Girls spinoff for when "Friendship is Magic" ends? I mean that's something I can practically see them doing. I'm sure it wouldn't last long, but I bet they're still considering doing it.
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Postby drunkill (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:10 am

As long as this doesn't mean Season 5 is 13 episodes as to give production time for this second movie, I don't mind.

It can only get better, they have spent all the time of the first movie creating rigs and designs etc that the quality of animations has got to improve when the workload for creating original assets is lower then before. Maybe they can be less like robots when they move and the fingers won't look as creepy.


Better be some sick guitar shredding.


EQG does quite well on netflix, I have seen many people wonder what it is and it's showing up all the time in peoples search terms.
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Postby Dal (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:23 am

Another reason Twi would have to go back is that strange magical stuff is happening in Canterlot High. and one of the humane six (kinda hoping for Fluttershy) goes to Equestria looking for Twilight's help. That would be a fun scene.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:27 am

I'm mostly wondering how they go back. Wasn't the portal only supposed to open once every few years?
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:34 am

Perpetual Lurker wrote:I'm mostly wondering how they go back. Wasn't the portal only supposed to open once every few years?


It would be kind of hilarious if that were Meghan et al. trying to force the door closed on the franchise, as a weird little act of defiance :-I
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Postby Discord (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:50 am

:ponder: "But I don't get it. Isn't the door supposed to be closed?"

:pcstare: "The Toy Maker has intervened."

:nnngh: "Toy Maker?"

:wat: "Who's that?"

:rainbert: "Aren't you supposed to be like the most powerful creatures in the universe?"

:speakest: "This creature precedes even us. It seems it wants more toys."

:twonk: "But I don't understand."

:pcstare: "Neither do we. Into the portal with you!"

:excellent: "Have fun!"
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:59 am

Perpetual Lurker wrote:I'm mostly wondering how they go back. Wasn't the portal only supposed to open once every few years?

Given the hearsay means by which we've learned of this plot point, there might be a chance that the Twilight seen in that trailer is actually Dougworld's original Twilight. Like, now I'm imagining an intro that depicts pony Twilight passing through the mirror, with the same casual air she has about her every time she arrives in Ponyville on the hot air balloon in the show's title sequence. Maybe someone saw that and picked it up as an actual plot point.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:12 am

Discord wrote: :speakest: "This creature precedes even us. It seems it wants more toys."


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Now I imagine "The Toymaker" looking something like this. :starity:

And by the way, what exactly do we "know" for a fact about this from the hearsay of the trailer and such?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:16 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:And by the way, what exactly do we "know" for a fact about this from the hearsay of the trailer and such?

That's pretty much it, aside from what scraps of info we've gleaned from the Rainbow Rocks toys. This stuff was announced at a toy fair (presumably, some sort of industry insider fair, otherwise this fandom would be all over it) that literally just started today.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:21 am

That would be amazing if there ever was a ponified 'Toymaker' villain that Hasbro ok'd to air :gotcha:

It would be like if the Bank of America produced a film that was anti capitalistic :v:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:23 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:That's pretty much it, aside from what scraps of info we've gleaned from the Rainbow Rocks toys. This stuff was announced at a toy fair (presumably, some sort of industry insider fair, otherwise this fandom would be all over it) that literally just started today.


I feel like then this is all we're going to get then from this UK Toy Fair (as the Transformers 4 news was also held back and locked up for only certain people to see) or maybe we'll get a tad more. Regardless, New York Toy Fair is in 10 days I think? And that always has tons of coverage, we'll probably see so much more then, rather than now. Perhaps it'd make more sense for Hasbro, too. As a company, wouldn't you rather have your big reveals in a place that is always covered well, rather than somewhere that's perhaps not as covered as much as the alternative?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:30 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:Perhaps it'd make more sense for Hasbro, too. As a company, wouldn't you rather have your big reveals in a place that is always covered well, rather than somewhere that's perhaps not as covered as much as the alternative?

This might just be a case of Hasbro being more concerned with their brand rather than their actual products. By building up consumer appeal for a brand, with a toy line and perhaps with a TV series or a few special direct-to-DVD movies, Hasbro can then start licensing it and its characters to third-party merchandisers. That seems to be one of their biggest corporate strategies, so perhaps that's why they go for the insiders first.

(Of course, it's always very possible that Hasbro is just incredibly stupid.)
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Postby Killing Vector (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:38 am

I find myself unable to get too worked up about this either way. Maybe because we sort of suspected/dreaded this might be coming anyway, or maybe because I found EqG1 watchable and this premise sounds like it could at least be cheesy fun. Of course if the existence of this does end up meaning that season 5 is only 13 episodes (with optional rushed production schedule), then I'll be unhappy.


Discord wrote:Why not just revive Jem or something?

Last I heard, the rights to Jem were stuck in some sort of limbo or otherwise unresolved. Has that changed? It wouldn't surprise me if Hasbro is making a Jem knock-off EqG movie in part because they aren't able to make a proper Jem reboot.

Fizzbuzz wrote:Given the hearsay means by which we've learned of this plot point, there might be a chance that the Twilight seen in that trailer is actually Dougworld's original Twilight. Like, now I'm imagining an intro that depicts pony Twilight passing through the mirror, with the same casual air she has about her every time she arrives in Ponyville on the hot air balloon in the show's title sequence. Maybe someone saw that and picked it up as an actual plot point.

I couldn't resist checking out the inevitable meltdown on /mlp/, and there was someone there claiming to have a friend working on the movie and that it didn't involve a crossover with the pony world. Take that with an enormous grain of salt, of course.

Perpetual Lurker wrote:I'm mostly wondering how they go back. Wasn't the portal only supposed to open once every few years?

I think they said every 30 moons or something like that, so presumably 2-3 years. It did seem like the sort of length that was picked to discourage the possibility of regular crossovers.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:55 am

Killing Vector wrote:I think they said every 30 moons or something like that, so presumably 2-3 years. It did seem like the sort of length that was picked to discourage the possibility of regular crossovers.

If the portal to Dougworld does open again so soon, hopefully they'll at least trot Luna out to explain it.

:moonie: Well, the full moon is just so pretty, so I sped through a few lunar cycles. Give or take.
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Postby Grue (?) » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:41 am

Mwahahaha. No stop for EQG train. Give me all the brony tears! :gotcha:

Also apparently Sunset Shimmer is confirmed to be in it! Hopefully they don't ruin her.
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