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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:44 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Of course not, as Celestia loves her subjects just the way they are.



Accept for Ted, no one really likes him, what a rubbish pony he is. :v: :gotcha:

*What kind of name is Ted for a pony anyway!?*
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:03 pm

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Would Celestia approve of one of her adherents shunning the sun? :flutterdear:

Autumn actually seems to be Celestia's favorite season anyway, so I doubt she'd mind.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:10 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Of course not, as Celestia loves her subjects just the way they are.

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:speakest: and lets not forget that without my Sister's fabulous sun, no one would ever the Moon at night.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:29 pm

The sun is always shining, no matter the season. :dwi:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:07 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:All of the profiler GIFs are Photoshops by someone on Tumblr. I am pretty skeptical of these keychain images as well, unless someone can provide some independent confirmation.


Those were confirmed with on 4Chan's /mlp/ board, including a .webm file filmed straight from the game- there's a board reader on the graphics team for Watchdogs, and he slipped the keychains in. In addition, this should also remind people of something combined with Trixie:

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:09 pm

...I've had over a day to pour over that image and I still don't see the Trixie reference.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:13 pm

The logo on the engine looks like Equestria Daily's logo. Sethisto, the king of EqD, loves Trixie.
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Postby Kitsune (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:48 pm

It's kind of hard to see at that distance, but the blocky font, and the style of the Q in particular - how it's a circle pierced by a triangle - is awful close to EQD's logo (for EQD, the Q is supposed to be a unicorn horn glowing).
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:57 pm

Oh Watch_Dogs, you can put as many crappy internet references as you want, it won't hide the fact you're a giant turd of a game. :allears:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:05 pm

Huh...I was almost certain it was that tiny little blue orb in the corner of the engine. That's really subtle but it also seems unnecessary.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:50 pm

Tailspin wrote:Oh Watch_Dogs, you can put as many crappy internet references as you want, it won't hide the fact you're a giant turd of a game. :allears:


:allright: I have an idea! Let's put in a bunch of internet references in our game! That way, if the game isn't well-received, people will always like references, right?
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:56 pm

Has that ever happened with other misguided projects before?
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:40 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Has that ever happened with other misguided projects before?


Probably.

I think the reason behind the high concentration of internet memes and referances is because the game is about "hacking" and THE INTERNETS, so of course they gotta referance doge everywhere.

Well, that and they probably needed to distract people from how bad the game is.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:41 pm

If it was done a little less in your face (how they would do that, I don't know), it would be tolerable but all these references just seems a little overboard.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:43 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:If it was done a little less in your face (how they would do that, I don't know), it would be tolerable but all these references just seems a little overboard.


BUT IT'S THE INTERNET AND HACKING, THIS IS WHAT THE INTERNET LOOKS LIKE! :flail:

Or at least to the people that made Watch Dogs.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:01 pm

I don't see why anyone is surprised. Ubisoft has always done 2 things: 1) Trying way too hard to appeal to their fans (pasty over-privileged rich kid transforming into murdering dude-bro + attempts at cynical humor in the item descriptions in Far Cry 3), and 2) Games that seem full of possibilities but are ultimately underwhelming due to a static, empty, needlessly massive game world and huge numbers of repetitive missions and boring collectibles that all follow specific formulae.

I've had fun with their games before, I remember thinking the original Assassin's Creed had a real spark of brilliance and was ahead of its time, and then they expanded on it beautifully in the second game, but they've never moved on from that Assassin's Creed 2/Far Cry 2 era, and I'm kind of sick of their act by now. They'll need to change if they want to recapture my interest.

Anyways, how 'bout them ponies? :-I
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:27 pm

Play Wolfenstein instead of Watch Dogs. Yes, it's shooty Nazi mans, but it's also pretty profound and radical in many ways.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:32 pm

kefkafloyd wrote:Play Wolfenstein instead of Watch Dogs. Yes, it's shooty Nazi mans, but it's also pretty profound and radical in many ways.


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I heard it's basically like a Tarantino movie, which is good because I think Kill Bill vol. 1 and 2 are my favorite movies. I can see where the reviewers were coming from since there's definitely ultra-violence, quirky music, and enrapturing dialogue with weird characters.

My only problem is that I can't bring myself to pay $60 for it. It's not like it's out of my budget, but I've never been satisfied with a full-priced game purchase. Even if it's a pretty good game, like Crysis 2 or Titanfall, I find myself thinking "well, it better be good, I payed 60 freaking bucks for it. :rainbert: "
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 3:33 pm

I've never even heard of Watch Dogs before all of this internet meme stuff came out about it and now I'll stay away from it. I'm not really a big fan of shooters in general but the one Kefka mentioned seems like it might be good.
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Postby acksed (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:32 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:I've never even heard of Watch Dogs before all of this internet meme stuff came out about it and now I'll stay away from it. I'm not really a big fan of shooters in general but the one Kefka mentioned seems like it might be good.

Iunnno, ManyATrueNerd seemed to like the mix of hacky-hack and stealth, noting that your character is a bit sad because he can't interact with anyone outside of a phone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH54PRv0rD0
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:52 pm

You guys realize the point of Watch_Dawgs is that you're a script kiddie manchild who's been emotionally crippled since a family tragedy right?
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:32 pm

Huh, I did not know that. That gives a lot more context to the memes and things and now it makes perfect sense to me.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:52 pm

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I heard it's basically like a Tarantino movie, which is good because I think Kill Bill vol. 1 and 2 are my favorite movies. I can see where the reviewers were coming from since there's definitely ultra-violence, quirky music, and enrapturing dialogue with weird characters.

My only problem is that I can't bring myself to pay $60 for it. It's not like it's out of my budget, but I've never been satisfied with a full-priced game purchase. Even if it's a pretty good game, like Crysis 2 or Titanfall, I find myself thinking "well, it better be good, I payed 60 freaking bucks for it. :rainbert: "


The campaign is about 12-13 hours long with a split timeline, tons of collectibles, and different styles of play (stealth vs. Rambo) so there's literally dozens of hours of fun for that $60. Double-wielded automatic shotguns with flak cannon.

It's got some Tarantino vibes, but it's still Wolfenstein, full of sci-fi Nazi killing. It has a lot of 1984, mixed with Iron Sky, mixed with Inglorious Basterds, and it all works, amazingly.

I will give it credit for having what is probably the best depiction of a mentally handicapped person in a video game. And no, I'm not referring to BJ.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:18 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Huh, I did not know that. That gives a lot more context to the memes and things and now it makes perfect sense to me.


Yea if I remember right there's like, multiple times when there's something like 'he hears some shit kinda sorta going down so he leaves his similarly emotionally devastated family mysteriously so he can go murder a dude or whatever' and I'm almost positive at one point he straight admits the hacking/fighting thing he's doing is the only thing that makes sense anymore. You're not supposed to think Aiden is a badass cool dude, he's a dude who's been retarded emotionally by tragedy and is too stunted to do anything but beat people with a stick.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:55 am

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Yea if I remember right there's like, multiple times when there's something like 'he hears some shit kinda sorta going down so he leaves his similarly emotionally devastated family mysteriously so he can go murder a dude or whatever' and I'm almost positive at one point he straight admits the hacking/fighting thing he's doing is the only thing that makes sense anymore. You're not supposed to think Aiden is a badass cool dude, he's a dude who's been retarded emotionally by tragedy and is too stunted to do anything but beat people with a stick.


Okay, but "uncool protagonist" has been Ubisoft's thing ever since Assassin's Creed 2. They're trying to give their characters flaws on a cinematic level in a medium diametrically opposed to cinema. Games can send similar messages and have similar impact, but trying to give a character flaws or present a struggle in the same way as a movie is silly. The struggle comes from the game and the challenges within. The character comes from what you do in the game world and the story you tell. The lesson comes from the results of what you decided to do, and how you choose to deal with those in turn.

You aren't a perfect, uninteresting character if you always have difficulty overcoming certain situations, or you always get thrown into compromising situations you need to get out of. Heaping this "The character not only gets into tons of gunfights and beats people to death and hacks bank accounts, but also has issues with some arbitrary tragedy from the past trying to drum up suspense and is generally a giant douchenozzle" is just distracting.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:11 am

I'm just gonna put out that it's straight impossible to make an open world game feel 100% emotionally consistent and Watch_Dog's main plot is fucking abysmally written. I'm not saying the game is the best, I'm just saying the 'but memes and stupid hacking methods' thing is a little tiring because the point of both of those is he's some nobody fuckdonkey who one day wanted to be a super-hacker because he can't handle loss.
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Postby acksed (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:30 am

So ACRacebest got the band back together and released the Bronies React for S4's finale:

You can sense they're getting a teeny bit tired of this show. :fluttersmith: But I got the magnificent freakout I was expecting. :flutterunsmith: And a bit more. :starity:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:20 am

You know, I never really was into the Bronies React series. Maybe it's because it didn't seem as interesting as the Fine Bros React videos but it never clicked with me.
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Postby DaBatGuy (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:39 am

It's because the reactions are so obviously scripted and forced. Also MLP isn't the type of show that would shock and confuse it's adult audience enough to get really entertaining reactions, especially if they're long time fans.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:11 am

I think you've got something there. Sometimes the reaction would seem interesting but since it's people who know and love the show, it's a lot less interesting then it would be if they showed such things to people who were unaware of the show. You get less of a perspective this way.
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:34 pm

I've always enjoyed the Bronies React series. I just think that the contributors (like SaberSpark, BVids, Racebest, BlackGryphon, etc) are really funny. The Bronies React panel at BronyCon last year was an absolute riot! :-P

I'll check this one out after work. If they are seeming to be getting tired of the show, then that's too bad. :fluttersmith: But I guess you can't expect people - especially folks who have been so involved in fandom projects for so long - to ride the passion train forever.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:43 pm

Yeah, I understand how people can get tired of something if they've been involved with it for so long but I intend to ride this show out until the end.
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:59 pm

To be fair, I've kind of experienced the same thing. I mean, when I was first getting into all this, I was like on pony drugs: I ate, drank, and slept :ponydrugs:

But sometime around last summer, I kind of scaled back a little bit. Don't get me wrong: I have loved Season 4 to bits (probably my favorite season). I adore this show just as much as I always have, and I'm fully committed to hanging on until the end as well. I just discovered that I couldn't possibly maintain the same level of obsession for years. This whole crazy thing is still a big part of my life. But there are other parts that I can enjoy as well! :spoiler:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:37 pm

I've pretty much lost all interest in the show, outside of maybe looking up fanart. But I look up fanart for a lot of things anyway (sometimes even if I never watched it). :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:41 pm

Aw...well, as long as you still like the community here and have a fun time, that's what matters in the long run. :)
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:42 pm

Would've probably conitnued watching it if the season finale wasn't what it was. Episodes like Trade Ya or the equestria games one got me excited for the show again. But after that finale there's no reason to.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:51 pm

I'm sure there'll be plenty more episodes like those in S5. Really, the premieres and finales almost feel like a different show, considering how much more action and fighting they usually have.


In fact, that's something I thought of last night. For those who don't read Foreign Lands, I've started watching the entire run of Avatar: The Last Airbender, posting about it as I go along. Episodes of ATLA, such as the one I watched last night, frequently feature big fight scenes. During that episode I caught myself comparing it to this show, only really coming up with episodes like ACW and Twilight's Kingdom as far as similarities in the fighting went. Given how little FiM normally does that level of action, the amount in the premieres and finales has become rather disproportionate to the rest of the series.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:55 pm

Which wouldn't be a problem if McCarthy's two parters didn't all look the same. This is the fourth two parter she has done and it's litterly the same thing over and over again, she just makes the villians bigger and more powerful and when all else fails she just ramp up the action. I'm fully expecting her to try and outdo herself in S5. Add to that that I wouldn't be surpised if S5 had another "story arc" (because story arcs are a thing now) that would weigh down the season and just lead to nowhere and I pretty much see no reason to watch it, let alone get excited about it.

The season was at its best when it would ignore everything and just focus on the characters and at its worst when it was pretending to be a show with story arcs and continuity, because, quite frankly it can't do story arcs and it has barely any continuity (heck, it even managed to forget stuff from S4, like the Castle).
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:00 pm

I still enjoy the show, but I am totally disillusioned with McCarthy Episodes. But if her lackluster episodes bookend 22 fun episodes in between, that's still a win for me.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:03 pm

My feeling is that it's best not to judge something before it comes out. With MA Larson back, the show could potentially go in any direction now. If you don't like the season opening and finales, you could always skip them and enjoy the rest of the season.
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