M04: Equestria Girls - Legend of Everfree

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M04: Equestria Girls - Legend of Everfree

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:59 pm

When CHS goes on a trip to Camp Everfree, they’re surprised to find a magical force is causing strange things to happen around camp. With the help of the Mane 6 and especially Sunset Shimmer, Twilight Sparkle must confront the dark 'Midnight Sparkle' within herself and embrace her newfound magical abilities to save the camp.


This thread is for discussion of this movie. The movie will be on Netflix on October 1, but already aired in Brazil yesterday with language options, hence the early thread.

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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:01 pm

Super short review: Sunset is best team mom.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:20 pm

This was pretty good. For the first time the other girls felt more active.

I still wish they hadn't kept science Twilight around. She just gets in the way of more Sunset Shimmer time. Didn't even get to see Sunset's cool fire wings. Sunset was still awesome though, and that's what I want from these movies.

:lol: Brad got wrecked. several times.

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Postby Ruflux (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:22 pm

Soooo they just totally misspelled Applejack in the opening titles. Off to a great start!


Also a strange curiosity that they didn't have a storyboard supervisor credit like last time since so far each movie's had more credits in the opening than the one before, rather than less.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:25 pm

I'm gonna watch it Oct 1st in Chicago. :yay:
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:26 pm

So they did go with Sunset being the element of empathy, as Meghan McCarthy said a while ago.

Still, I felt like this movie was the weakest of the bunch, no scene really made an impression on me, and everything from drama, to humor, music, animation, etc... felt like a step down.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:26 pm

Here Lies Flash Sentry.

He died and as he lived: getting rektd

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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:35 pm

ilcane87 wrote:So they did go with Sunset being the element of empathy, as Meghan McCarthy said a while ago.


Yeah I do like her powers are all about super empathy. Also I'd actually rate this the second best movie behind Rainbow Rocks personally.

As been stated if you watch Equestria Girls mostly to see Sunset Shimmer be cool then this movie has it. She's pretty much become comfortable in her role as de facto leader of the girls. Also yeah this one actually had all the girls helping out during the climax and they feel better utilized.

The plot is a standard Scooby-Doo plot and yeah some people are gonna be not happy with it.

As for Timber Spruce, I honestly didn't mind him. Even he does feel like a slightly more improved Flash

Songs are few this time, my favorites are the villain song and Twilight's though hers is really short. Also the songoing over the openingredients credits is super Mumfordy.

All in all I give this movie like a 4/5. It's some of the most fun I've had with mlp since season 6 came back. Also dat sequel hook
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:43 pm

DerFurShur wrote: Also dat sequel hook


I still think that the story is building up to Sunset having to go back. I think her presence is what's keeping the connection between worlds open enough to allow magic to leak in.

Would also fit with the comics view of alternate universes.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:03 pm

Ah so we're gonna Digimon this
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:26 pm

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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:40 pm

So it's been a while (that's an understatement) since I saw MLP after I kinda dropped it a year ago. I didn't finish Season 5 and i didn't touch S6 until yesterday when I caught up with the mind control episode. Plus I havent seen EqG2 and 3.

Having seen the 4th film now, I honestly didn't like it. It felt like about 50 minutes of nothing but them talking and camping. Then the last 20 minutes some dull action scene that once again ends with another be-all-end-all energy blast that resolves the day.

I liked some characterizations. I found some gags somewhat funny. But i think the most redeemable thing of the flick was the villain's motivation. I think the actress did an incredible job of selling her desperation :saddershy:

But... it didn't need to be an hour and 10 minutes film. You could have easily shortened it to a two parter. And yes, I know Hasbro wants another EqG movie length flick but regardless it just felt bloated and took waaaaay too long to get to the interesting stuff (and even the interesting parts, the ending, was rather dull). Maybe some more fun and exciting camp activities could have been in the film. Maybe the last third could have began halfway into the movie and had more exciting bits.

But as it stands, I didn't like it :fluttershock: I appreciate the change of scenery but it felt like they didnt make use of the setting to its best potential and the writing just was really dull.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:40 pm

She wasn't the deepest villain but I kinda enjoyed watching Heel Gloriosa's antics. She even did the patented Unsettling Adagio Dazzle Chin Touch.
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Postby The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:06 pm

This is already the worst intro song in Equestria girls, guess the budget got cut since it wasn't going to be a theatrical release
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:37 pm

Well that was enjoyable and adorable. :3: Now to wait for a version where the sound didn't go wonky etc etc. :v:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 7:14 pm

ilcane87 wrote:So they did go with Sunset being the element of empathy.

Holy shit, this explains so many things. I think Sunset is awesome, but the past 2 movies I've been feeling like something is slightly "off" about her, for me personally, and this would be it. :ponder:
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Postby The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:28 pm

Brad being the whipping boy of the series is kind of hilarious
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 8:32 pm

Well this one was strange. I don't appreciate the YT copy missing a fairly key bit of a scene towards the end or the audio getting all fucky during the song the Rainbooms do, but that's what you get with highly legitimate copies like these.

The movie itself was fine I feel, certainly stronger than the last one but still honestly the usual brand of somewhat forgettable and fairly formulaic. I liked seeing Sunset be totally cool and rad, as well as the other mane six getting utilized properly, but the story just felt like it didn't really go anywhere interesting. I did like how the dorky romantic stuff was actually integrated into the plot somewhat (even tho the guy's literally Brad 2: Slightly Less Brad lmao) but at the same time, did we really need that shit at all when the runtime of the whole thing is approx 70 minutes? I dunno, seems like a waste to focus on the stuff nobody gives a toss about

I do also like the dynamic sci-Twi or whatever we're calling her brings with her, but then I also noticed that she was basically either alone, with Sunset or then with the new guy for most of the time and thus we basically see none of her interacting with the mane six, which is a rather strange decision. Really it just feels like they didn't even remember she can actually talk with mane six girls other than Sunset sometimes

e: No joke I honestly felt bad for Brad Original. It's like the writers just keep bringing him back so he can get fukken served at every opportunity. But maybe that's for the best cos the whole "I like this girl who's actually a magical pony" shit is still real creepy if you ask me
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:26 pm

Ruflux wrote:sci-Twi

Scilight :wingsright:
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:33 pm

Meganerd Twilight


As opposed to regular nerd Twilight
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:39 pm

Like, I bet Scilight totally watches anime too
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Postby The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Sun Sep 25, 2016 9:50 pm

Ruflux wrote:e: No joke I honestly felt bad for Brad Original. It's like the writers just keep bringing him back so he can get fukken served at every opportunity. But maybe that's for the best cos the whole "I like this girl who's actually a magical pony" shit is still real creepy if you ask me


Well he didn't know she was a magical pony, he just thought she was just a normal purple girl like all the other purple girls in his world.

Finally finished it after taking bite-sized chunks. This was decent. Better than Friendship games, but you could feel the budget straining. Brad 2 was inoffensive, unless you think to hard about the fact that he and his sister run a camp for 14 year olds by themselves so they must be older. The villainess was more interesting than Cinch but the conflict felt a bit contrived. I'm really left unclear about what they were trying to say about magic corruption versus magic enlightenment. In many ways I think Brad 2 would've been a better and more interesting villain, since at least his motives would've been clear in that they were selfish at some level, which was the key to corruption for Sunset and Twilight. I guess the villianess was self-centered in a 'this is my burden and mine alone!' kind of way, which is reflected in Twilight's struggle with her fears, but it feels like it needed a little more work to make the parallels really sing.

Sunset being a mentor already so soon after being a villian is also a little weird. I mean I guess its to be expected after Friendship Games. I really wish she was allowed to have her own arcs though. I suppose its the only way they could keep her in and make her a main character while still making Twilight the "main character." Still a little disappointing. I really wanted this to be Sunset Shimmer's series, but I guess Hasbro is afraid of breaking away from Twilight, even though the writers know her character has finished her arc in the main show and are deliberately introducing proxies to play main character in her stead. Even DougWorld Twilight is such a proxy.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 2:27 am

I'm saving my excitement for the official release on Netflix. It will be an awesome way to start this year's spoopy season.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:24 am

After this I'd go 2 -> 4 -> 1 -> 3 I think in terms of favorites for the EQGs.

Rainbow Rocks just had the best climax bar none; it's an extremely high bar to top when your finale is an awesome Scott Pilgrim Battle of the Bands.

But this one was cool. Sunset was all around awesome, I enjoyed how Sunbutt & Moonbutt actually got to have like, roles that showed something of their characters - sundial snark is a game example - and I mean, while it never quite hit the high bar of WOW! that Rainbow Rocks really jazzed me with, it was still an all around fun romp. Plus there's cool sequel hooks, and this movie really felt like it was building to something.

Which arguably I'd say is what all the EQGs have done. I mean, we've seen major story progression here - Equestria is almost completely gone from the equation now, we have a different Mane 7 (I wonder what this might mean for Starlight in Equestria, too, since EQG seems to have 7 Elements), and well, they now have superpowers.

And the sequel hook - the magic colors we saw seeping out? All of them matched Elements.

Except for one. Which was a glowing, lambent green.

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Postby Bremen (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 6:03 am

It says a lot that I'd completely forgotten about the tree of harmony. Then they found a magic cave in the middle of the Everfree with a stone flower with magic gems, and I was like Oooooh, so that's what's going on :starity:

I quite liked this movie. Is EqG going to be like Star Trek where the even movies are the good ones? (I kid, I actually quite liked 3).
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:30 pm

It was ok. Nothing special, nothing really good or bad. Shimmer was great as always, most of the Mane 6 were superficial at best even if it lead to a hella funny post credit gag.

Brad getting shut down was amusing and this movie's magically transformed villain was a cool design. Which is nice being the THIRD TIME THEY HAVE GONE TO THIS WELL.

Also lots of Derpy. Sadly the music seemed mostly bleah. I didn't much care for Friendship games but it had really catchy tunes.

Pleasant way to kill 70 minutes out of 10 I guess.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:09 pm

Why is Pinkie a sprinkle version of Gambit, they could've used Pinkie sense (since she already had her general Pinkieness).

The whole Brad 2 thing is really weird cause he'd definitely have to be way older.

The songs are the one biggest redemption factor in these movies but the ones in this were kinda forgettable.

Still, it had a bunch of cute pone moments. Though at this point I wish Hasbro would just let it go already :v:
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Postby Bremen (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:13 pm

Would he have to be that much older? I mean, they're in high school, so they could be 16-17. Timber could easily have been 18.

The fact that the CMC also go to the school and seem much younger makes me think the Mane 6 are probably seniors and 17ish. Not to mention that they can apparently drive.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:25 pm

Maybe it's just cause I assumed he was like, 20 something at the start (and he's way taller). But yeah let's go with that :v:
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:30 pm

Figuring out the ages and logic of Dougworld and Equestria are a path to madness. Don't do it less your mind be snapped.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:30 pm

Not sure if height is a good judge of age considering Bulk Biceps is about as tall as Celestia and Luna.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Sep 26, 2016 11:41 pm

Where can I watch this at?
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:23 am

Youtube until Saturday, then it'll be on Netflix.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:25 am

Looks like all the YouTube videos have been taken down.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:13 am

Watched this last night. It was enjoyable enough, but there's very little special about it.

The biggest issue I have with the EQG movies is that they rarely do anything interesting premise-wise. The girls go to Prom! The girls go to Battle of the Bands! The girls go to a sporting event! The girls go to summer camp! It's pretty clear that Hasbro want a nice, safe, stable movie each year, and the result is that nothing particularly interesting or challenging happens to anyone. The closest they came this year was Twilight's fears about Midnight Sparkle, but that ended up being of pretty minor significance.

Also jesus christ, poor Pinkie Pie is pathetic shadow of her FiM self in this thing.

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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 8:15 pm

This is my favorite in the EG movies.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:37 pm

Applepie wrote:This is my favorite in the EG movies.


I'm honestly leaning that way myself. It's got pretty much everything I liked about Rainbow Rocks (well, the music isn't quite as great), without that whole awkwardness with Twilight trying to write a counterspell song.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:39 pm

Bremen wrote:
I'm honestly leaning that way myself. It's got pretty much everything I liked about Rainbow Rocks (well, the music isn't quite as great), without that whole awkwardness with Twilight trying to write a counterspell song.


Outside the first one, I think the main problem in all the EQG films is Twilight.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Oct 01, 2016 11:00 pm

The "villain" isn't as good as Adagio was but they pull off the "well meaning girl gets in over her head with magic" thing better here than they did in Friendship Games. And they learned their lesson from Cinch by having Filthy Rich in this just quick enough to set up the conflict and then leave.

Timber does feel like an attempt to make a better Flash and they kinda succeed but since no one besides his fans wants a Flash, even a slightly better written one, it seems unnecessary. Kinda wished they focused more of Timber's role on his relationship with Gloriosa. We got a little of it, but more I think would have helped.

The main draw of this really is Sunset because she actually has moved on from her questioning her role from the last movie and now is comfortable learning about magic in this world and helping the others learn about theit powers.

And yeah this weirldly feels more like a launching for a spinoff series than any of the previous movies did, but we know that's never happening so the best we can hope for is that the next one (if there is a next one) is just a magic girl movie with more fun action because I did like what they were trying to go for in the climax but more of that would be good.

But yeah this is my favorite EQG since Rainbow Rocks.
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Postby Waffles (?) » Sun Oct 02, 2016 6:49 am

Yeah, I saw it from start to finish and it really never worked for me. It had a few highlights but the story was just so slow to go anywhere interesting that by the time something did happen, it was too little, too late for me to be genuinely excited.

Conversely, this week's TV episode was actually a lot of fun, so it evened out for me in the end.
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