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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 4:19 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:
Pinkie would go crazy. :amazing:


Lest we forget, that basically already happened in Magic Duel.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 4:20 pm

It just so happens that Pinkie is out of Ponyville when the silence spell affects the town and predictably causes trouble when she comes back from a cake delivery. :-P
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 4:38 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Skip all this mushy girly stuff and cut to the pew pew lasers :shepspike:


On that note, I want a Twilight-Shining Armor episode. Just 22 minutes of the Sparkle siblings kicking evil asses. :black101:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 5:21 pm

Headless Horse wrote:I must amend my statement earlier to say that Castle Mane-ia did the haunted-house gimmick pretty fuckin' well, and it's near the top of a whole lot of people's lists.

But that may be the exception that proves the rule, or something. I know that what I love most about it isn't the spookiness tropes, but the great character-driven comedy that just happens to have a new place to play.

That's the thing. FiM can make pretty much anything work so long as the characters are really involved and part of things. That's where MMMystery on the Friendship Express stumbled, since it burned so much time on the movie jokes, using three characters-of-the-day instead of any of the Mane Six. That's also why Power Ponies worked, since even though it was one of this show's most out-there situations ever, I think it still stayed true to them and Spike.
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Postby InC (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 5:45 pm

Caslte Mane-ia and Power Ponies were "what would happen if we put the Mane6 inside a Scooby Doo episode/superhero comic book?" (literally, in the latter case), while MMMystery was born from "let's do this storyline using the Mane6". Even if we disregard the time wasted by the movie scenes, the characters were made to fit the plot and don't really feel true to themselves. On the other hand Castle Mane-ia barely had a plot at all, it just put the characters in a particular setting and let them play off each other - the same reason moments like the train scene in OAB are so good. As long as the characters are the ones driving the plot, Pony can make pretty much anything work. When just one season goes from Pinkie Apple Pie to Filli Vanilli to Maud Pie to the most anime fight to ever anime, it's clear that this show isn't bounded by genre or a strict formula but rather all over the place, and it can work as long as it stays character driven.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:30 pm

I hope the show can avoid any future episodes like that then, taking a formula from some other show or whatnot, and inserting ponies. Because just "ponifying" something never works. :notthisshitagain:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:33 pm

Not even an episode guest starring the Marelem Globe-Trotters? :awesomedash:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:51 pm

:twonk: Not even an episode starring the Marelem Globe-Trotters!
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:55 pm

You know, I'm tempted to write a 11-minute Pony episode just to prove to you guys it can work.

Look out, Hasbro! Here I come! :twonk:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 7:56 pm

Mr. Big wrote:You know, I'm tempted to write a 11-minute Pony episode just to prove to you guys it can work.

Look out, Hasbro! Here I come! :twonk:

:crack: Please do!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 8:08 pm

Mr. Big wrote:You know, I'm tempted to write a 11-minute Pony episode just to prove to you guys it can work.

Look out, Hasbro! Here I come! :twonk:

Instead of moving to LA, move to Vancouver.
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Postby Ransom (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 8:27 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:Not even an episode guest starring the Marelem Globe-Trotters? :awesomedash:

Of course not!





They should totally have a soccer (hoofball) episode though.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 8:29 pm

What I really want to see is ponies playing American football (handegg). We know they have it, as we saw Applejack and Rainbow Dash kicking them once, and Rarity's dad has a cutie mark of three of them. It's just really weird that they'd have such a sport, seeing as they have no hands with which to carry the ball.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 9:05 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Instead of moving to LA, move to Vancouver.

Pony writers are all LA-based. The animation side of thing's done in Vancouver :spike101:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 9:18 pm

Ponies could play hockey. We've seen them skate, and Earth ponies could hold the sticks with thier mouths, Pegasi could use thier wings to hold them, and Unicorns manipulate them with thier magic.

:-/ And who's the referee? And DON'T say Ms. Harshwhinny.

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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 10:09 pm

With hockey, I feel like Earth ponies holding sticks in their mouth would be very, very dangerous. :-I
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 10:20 pm

I suppose. Maybe some kind of apparatus they could wear on thier heads that a stick fits into would work.

Another possibility would be pony roller derby.

:rant: I'll run you all over!

:bluh: Maybe we oughta rethink that idea.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 10:21 pm

PonyHag714 wrote: :speakest: I am the referee! Two minutes for delay of game!

The best princess handing out the worst penalty. :unenthused:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 10:24 pm

Octavia wrote:The best princess handing out the worst penalty. :unenthused:


One good stomp on the ice and everypony stops arguing with her. :unenthused:
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 10:35 pm

ShieldedDiamond wrote:With hockey, I feel like Earth ponies holding sticks in their mouth would be very, very dangerous. :-I

It's an old trope that hockey players are always missing teeth from having them knocked out. Sounds par for the course! :amazing:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 10:38 pm

Homeswirl wrote:It's an old trope that hockey players are always missing teeth from having them knocked out. Sounds par for the course! :amazing:

Somehow I get the feeling that ponies who play hockey would try to avoid fights. One, they'd be wearing skates on all four legs, and two, even if they skated around entirely on their hind legs, their hard hooves would still make punches hurt a lot.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 11:40 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:Another possibility would be pony roller derby.

It's canon!

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Postby Jyu (?) » Wed May 14, 2014 11:49 pm

The only problem I would have with 11 minute episode would be the abrupt endings. Adventure Time and Steven Universe do 11 minute episodes and they both occasionally suffer from ending abruptly especially Adventure Time. Not saying this is a problem with all 11 minute cartoons but it is a recurring problem with a lot of them.

You know, I was watching some Gravity Falls and I noticed that a lot of episode usually have an A and B plot. Ponies tends to focus on one character's point of view for the whole 22 minutes instead of going between two character's POVs. I've always see that has one of ponies strengths. By only having one plotline, there's a lot more time to tell a more compelling and emotional character story. Although, I guess it would be a nice change to see more episodes like Castle Mane-ia and Equestria Games.
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 12:49 am

Jyu wrote:The only problem I would have with 11 minute episode would be the abrupt endings. Adventure Time and Steven Universe do 11 minute episodes and they both occasionally suffer from ending abruptly especially Adventure Time. Not saying this is a problem with all 11 minute cartoons but it is a recurring problem with a lot of them.



The abrupt endings are one of the best things about Adventure Time! :rainbert: Might not be so good for Pony, though.
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Postby Kitsune (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 1:43 am

People already complain about abrupt endings in pony, don't they? :v:

Back on the 11-minute vs 22-minute thing, though - I think part of the reason is that MLP is, I guess, just a bit smoother, to me. I mean, I think of 11-minute shows, like Spongebob, or Adventure Time, or Dexter's Lab; and yeah, they can be hilarious or emotional, but it doesn't feel natural the same way that MLP does. On those shows, the characters feel more like vehicles for comedy, or drama, or morals, than actual people, and it comes across as a bit artificial - not in a bad way, mind you.

With MLP, it wants 22 minutes because it's supposed to feel like a very organic experience, and it needs as many seconds as it can get. Like, I think of Pinkie Pride - half that episode is in song - and it really pushes that 22 minutes to the fullest; it makes use of lots of big shots to show the sheer scale of the parties, it has long songs to capture as much energy as possible from Pinkie and Cheese, and not a single moment goes by that doesn't feel meaningful. Having a longer time lets the show really breathe and gives room for all the fluff to make it feel less like a carefully constructed TV show and more like a snapshot into the lives of a small circle of friends.

I dunno, I'm just kinda wordsing and maybe everything I've just said is BS. Still, an 11-minute episode is certainly possible, and if you really do write one, I'd seriously love to see it - after all, I do support both art in any form and diminutive equines - but for now, I don't think the showrunners would do that, because it seems like a pretty huge change in the feel of the show.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:30 pm

Here's a new version of the Pony episode chart with more series included:

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I love Darkwing Duck, but it looks like Pony will overtake it with the S5 opener.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:37 pm

Is there a version of that chart that isn't so... small?
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:58 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Is there a version of that chart that isn't so... small?

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 9:58 pm

There's a version here that you can click to enlarge.

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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 10:08 pm

Much better.

The 38 number for "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!" is a bit effy, here. The original show lasted two seasons in 1969-70, seventeen in season 1 and eight more in season 2, giving the total number of 25 episodes. Throughout the 1970s newer Scooby Doo shows were made under new titles. In 1978, nine episodes of the new series were aired with the old "Where Are You" opening/closing sequences, but the remaining 7 from the season were then broadcast as "Scooby All Star". And even then, in reruns those episodes were packaged under "The Scooby Doo Show" banner.

Regardless of how they were originally broadcast, it's pretty much agreed that the proper "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You!" series only had 2 seasons and 25 episodes.

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...why do I care about this? I don't even like Scooby Doo :-I

And there are some inconsistencies with shows and revivals. It has "Doug" running for 116 episodes. The Nickelodeon series had 52 episodes, while the Disney series had 65. But they're still two separate series.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 10:46 pm

I'd take an 11-minute episode of pony...

...with ANOTHER 11-minute episode of pony showing a completely different story set against the background of the first one in progress.

That'd be kinda cool and yet satisfy the entire episode time while still being two technically connected yet different stories within it.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 10:56 pm

The problem with that is that Pony has a three-act structure with a short cold open- usually those 11-minute segments come with one giant commercial break in the middle. You couldn't have a two-segment show without changing the whole commercial structure, which is usually enough of a logistical pain in the butt to prevent it from happening.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 10:57 pm

WandereringPony wrote:I'd take an 11-minute episode of pony...

...with ANOTHER 11-minute episode of pony showing a completely different story set against the background of the first one in progress.

That'd be kinda cool and yet satisfy the entire episode time while still being two technically connected yet different stories within it.

They did that with JFS and GPP, though, and it worked quite well across two episodes (or at least as well as anything like JFS could work with a crap episode like GPP shackled to it). Set up like you described, I think that wouldn't be much different from shows where they regularly run A/B plots in each episode.


Of course, that reminds me that one thing I would like for the comics to do is four issues structured like those two episodes. Spend two issues on Spike and the CMC doing something fun in Ponyville while their sisters are off on some sort of official business, then at the end of the second issue, have the Mane Six arrive home all roughed up from what obviously ended up being a great and unexpected adventure for them. The next two issues then tell the story of that adventure. It'd make for a great cliffhanger!
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Postby Octavia (?) » Thu May 15, 2014 11:31 pm

Johnny Test had 130 episodes? :starity:

Beavis and Butthead had 227 episodes?? :starity:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri May 16, 2014 12:17 am

Octavia wrote:Johnny Test had 130 episodes? :starity:

And an asterisk indicating it's still running. :heehaw:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri May 16, 2014 12:31 am

Octavia wrote:Johnny Test had 130 episodes? :starity:


So remember, when you're awake in the middle of the night, and thinking MLP is doing rather well, Johnny Test is always one step ahead of it. :gonkity:

:cry: I don't think I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Fri May 16, 2014 12:32 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:And an asterisk indicating it's still running. :heehaw:


:amazing: THE RIDE NEVER ENDS.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Fri May 16, 2014 12:52 am

Octavia wrote:Beavis and Butthead had 227 episodes?? :starity:

The 1990s show had exactly 200 episodes, plus more made in the 2011 revival.

Another iffy one is "The Jetsons". The original 1960s show only lasted one season with 24 episodes, airing on ABC prime-time 1962-63. In 1985, in order to bring the number to 65 in syndication, Hanna-Barbera made 41 more episodes. This was followed by 10 more in 1987.

Wylie wrote:The problem with that is that Pony has a three-act structure with a short cold open- usually those 11-minute segments come with one giant commercial break in the middle. You couldn't have a two-segment show without changing the whole commercial structure, which is usually enough of a logistical pain in the butt to prevent it from happening.


Yeah, I was thinking of that, too. So maybe THREE 7-minute shorts format, like with "Dexter's Lab" and "Johnny Bravo" back in the day? Even better, the second segment is always the Cutie Mark Crusaders going on some misadventures.

Actually, keep the half-hour format for regular Ponies. Do short episodes with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, and each one features them doing something different, and we learn from Cheerliee how it's actually done in the real world. Like a Pony version of "Tennessee Tuxedo"
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Postby Minty (?) » Fri May 16, 2014 1:51 am

22 1-minute ponies. :yay:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri May 16, 2014 2:02 am

Minty wrote:22 1-minute ponies. :yay:

I'm still waiting for FiM to do its own 22 Short Films About Springfield. :rainbert:
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