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Postby Lorce (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:33 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:That reminds me, I wonder how Steven Magnet is doing these days. I like to think he still gets visitors. :vogue:

From what i remember, MA Larson said he included him in one of the S3 finale songs, but that ended up being cut. ^^
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 6:36 pm

Wonder if the footage is still lying around somewhere...could they screen it at a con or is it still copyrighted?
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:09 pm

It might still be copyrighted, and I don't think there were any "deleted scenes" or anything on the DVD of S3.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:59 pm

Lorce wrote:From what i remember, MA Larson said he included him in one of the S3 finale songs, but that ended up being cut. ^^

I'll also assume a S4 deleted scene in which Tirek steals his moustache.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:05 pm

Not his mustache! That's going too far! :gonkity:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 8:06 pm

I don't really think FiM has all that many deleted scenes (that is to say, deleted scenes that made it past script revision). The only one in particular that I can think of is that one storyboard from Luna Eclipsed that had Rarity's now-cut appearance in that episode.
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:06 pm

I really hope Steven Magnet shows up again. I enjoyed him a lot.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:09 pm

I do too but what context could he be put in....wait. SEAPONIES AND STEVE TOGETHER! :yay:
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 2:24 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:The thing is, we've never seen goats talk beyond that one scene where Iron Will huddled up with them, and even then the goats did not audibly speak. Perhaps they're only about as smart as Angel and the other pets.


A sheep says "you coulda just asked" after Winona herded them all into a pen together. It'd be weird if sheep could talk, but goats couldn't.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:09 am

One thing I would like to see from FiM, especially during the hiatuses is if they started releasing concept art, storyboards, and cut out dialogue :allears:

I know not many shows do that but some are starting to (Wander Over Yonder, Steven Universe) and given how popular and long standing FiM has been, it seems like it's a no brainer to release production pieces to help keep the hiatuses less boring.

There hasn't been much production works released to us (heck, some of the storyboards released were removed by the artist or Hasbro). And when we do get fun facts like the Steve Magnet thing, it's when people ask the staff on twitter. It's not really organized or centralized.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:15 am

Maybe they don't think those concepts are a big deal, or that anyone would be interested in them? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:25 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:Maybe they don't think those concepts are a big deal, or that anyone would be interested in them? :pinkieshrug:


Yeah, it may be an 'adult-fans' thing since it's likely that most kids won't be on the Tumblrs and Blogspots :-P But I dunno, it'd be nice at least if they could start a Tumblr page and post production pieces because I'm sure they'll get reblogged and liked a lot (easy free promotion :flail: ). If those mentioned shows get hundreds of Notes (reblog/like), I'm sure FiM would get a thousand or two. And even if most kids aren't on these sites, I'd say it would still help and there are probably some kids who already use it.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:39 am

I'd be all for that, I love the behind-the-scenes stuff about the show. :allears:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:38 am

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Yeah, it may be an 'adult-fans' thing since it's likely that most kids won't be on the Tumblrs and Blogspots :-P But I dunno, it'd be nice at least if they could start a Tumblr page and post production pieces because I'm sure they'll get reblogged and liked a lot (easy free promotion :flail: ). If those mentioned shows get hundreds of Notes (reblog/like), I'm sure FiM would get a thousand or two. And even if most kids aren't on these sites, I'd say it would still help and there are probably some kids who already use it.

You would be surprised by how many angry people who protest the fandom think kids visit Tumblr. Hasbro might as well just start posting the shows on Tumblr with how many kids seem to be going there these days. :-P
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:37 am

I'd like to see production art and scrapped scripts and such collected and printed in a book, possibly after the end of the show's run.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:41 am

:rainbert: :"Applejack, these apples are defective! I wanted some fresh cider ...
:saddash: :"so I jammed a straw into one of em' and I can hardly get any juice out at all!"
:squintyjack:"Uh that's not how apples work. How did you get the idea to do that?"

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:3: :"You can clearly do it with an orange..."
:liarjack: :"Uh that's more of a metaphorical concept describing the uh pure unadulterated nature of said brand of orange juice. "
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:15 pm

Sobana wrote:You would be surprised by how many angry people who protest the fandom think kids visit Tumblr. Hasbro might as well just start posting the shows on Tumblr with how many kids seem to be going there these days. :-P


Please stop talking down about the children watching the show. You do that regularly, and it's really irksome, not to mention bad posting. Kids are much smarter and more internetsavvy than you think, and tumblr is full of pretty pictures and gifs, so yes, kids DO go there. There is no excuse for people not to tag inappropriate content as such and mark their tumblrs as NSFW, thus hiding them from search.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 3:23 pm

Yeah, kids are smarter than you think and if they have a interest in something like MLP, we should do our best to steer them from NSFW content of that on Tumblr and, to a larger extent, the internet.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:57 pm

Exactly, all one has to do is Google search something, and if the proper safe search isn't set (Which kids do know how to turn off) and who knows what they could come across.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:58 am

I keep my safe search off and I never come across any thing inappropriate.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:05 am

Eh, I typed Applejack and you just have to scroll down a bit to see something inappropriate :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 7:10 am

I just checked (and through Incognito so previous history would have no affect on my outcome) and I wrote "Rarity", and the first suggestion in images was Human, so I clicked it. Then a page of human Rarity artwork came out. And the first suggestion there was the tag "R34". I didn't think I had to go any further.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:06 am

Perrydotto wrote:
Please stop talking down about the children watching the show. You do that regularly, and it's really irksome, not to mention bad posting. Kids are much smarter and more internetsavvy than you think, and tumblr is full of pretty pictures and gifs, so yes, kids DO go there. There is no excuse for people not to tag inappropriate content as such and mark their tumblrs as NSFW, thus hiding them from search.

That is the whole option contradiction I find here. When I say the show could survive solely as internet episodes I am often met with "kids just aren't smart enough to look up that stuff online. Yet they are just smart enough to scar themselves for life when looking that stuff up."

You should really pick one or the other. Either you think they are to smart or not smart enough when it comes to the internet.

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I just checked (and through Incognito so previous history would have no affect on my outcome) and I wrote "Rarity", and the first suggestion in images was Human, so I clicked it. Then a page of human Rarity artwork came out. And the first suggestion there was the tag "R34". I didn't think I had to go any further.

My search results where different. I didn't find any human Rarity until the bottom of the page where it hit "Show me more". First picture on the list just brought me to a wiki. I found nothing even suggestive on my search. Nearly everything I seen was just screen shots from the show. Hardly any fan art what so ever.
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Postby doodlesplat (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:23 am

The apparent paradox is resolved by recognizing that "kids" are not a single entity. Online distribution that only some kids find would not be as good as a wider offline release that more kids find; Harmful content that only some kids find would not be as good as harmful content that no kids find.
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:43 am

Sobana wrote:My search results where different. I didn't find any human Rarity until the bottom of the page where it hit "Show me more". First picture on the list just brought me to a wiki. I found nothing even suggestive on my search. Nearly everything I seen was just screen shots from the show. Hardly any fan art what so ever.


Google results vary from person to person, and yes, porn is a problem - When I look up references for pony characters to draw, about 50% of the time, the results will include at least suggestive or fetish art. Just because it's not a problem for you doesn't mean it's not generally a problem, so don't dismiss it outright.

Also, yes, this is true:

doodlesplat wrote:The apparent paradox is resolved by recognizing that "kids" are not a single entity. Online distribution that only some kids find would not be as good as a wider offline release that more kids find; Harmful content that only some kids find would not be as good as harmful content that no kids find.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:46 am

Exactly. For every kid that's ignorant of the internet, there's others that use it often and we have to take them into consideration.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:04 am

doodlesplat wrote:The apparent paradox is resolved by recognizing that "kids" are not a single entity. Online distribution that only some kids find would not be as good as a wider offline release that more kids find; Harmful content that only some kids find would not be as good as harmful content that no kids find.
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Well, that makes sense, thank you.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:27 pm

I was watching an episode from season one, look before you sleep, and Applejack and Rarity's voices sounded really off. They sounded, I donno, less defined. Like you could hear the voice actresses slipping into their normal speaking voices if the lines are to long. Later seasons their voices are more solid and that is what I got use too. The show really grew a lot since then.
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Postby Seven Seas (?) » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:50 pm

Applejack's voice is way deeper now than it was in the early days of Season 1. That was a deliberate choice by Ashleigh Ball, because both Rainbow Dash and Applejack were at the upper end of her vocal range; she was getting exhausted working up that high all the time, and she wanted to differentiate the two voices a little better.

Spike's change has been even greater. I'm still amazed by how deep Cathy Weseluck is able to get him.

I haven't noticed the changes to Rarity's voices as much, perhaps because she's such a dramatic character that her inflection fluctuates from line to line, let alone from episode to episode.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:14 pm

Also in early episodes, voice actors are experimenting with the character still, as opposed to later seasons, where they are more comfortable in the role.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:35 pm

Yeah, often it takes a good few episodes for voice actors to become comfortable in their roles.
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Postby Seven Seas (?) » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:50 pm

Yeah, totally. And in addition, at the beginning of a show, a voice actress is sort of locked into whatever voice they decided to break out at the audition... even if they didn't expect to get the part and they didn't put as much thought into that particular voice as they wish they had. :-I I think some of the MLP actresses have admitted things along those lines. Once they get a chance to really develop their characters, though, they have more freedom to play with the execution.

Here's how dramatically Applejack changed from Season 1 to Season 2:





Pinkie Pie has been heading the opposite direction... actually, I guess it's that she's been kinda all over the place compared to the other characters. There was a period in Season 2 when Pinkie seemed to be settling on a more natural, conversational inflection that I really liked. But lately, outside her emotional focus episodes like Pinkie Pride, Maud Pie, etc., it seems like she's been getting progressively more shrill and screamy and it makes me sad. :deflated:



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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:44 pm

Seven Seas wrote:Pinkie Pie has been heading the opposite direction... actually, I guess it's that she's been kinda all over the place compared to the other characters. There was a period in Season 2 when Pinkie seemed to be settling on a more natural, conversational inflection that I really liked. But lately, outside her emotional focus episodes like Pinkie Pride, Maud Pie, etc., it seems like she's been getting progressively more shrill and screamy and it makes me sad. :deflated:

I think that has more to do with the way she's been written in later seasons, in that she hasn't had many chances to not be shrill and screamy. To me it doesn't come across as any fault of Andrea Libman's acting. In fact, I think she's gotten better at differentiating the voices of both her characters, which is important since when Pinkie Pie was speaking quietly in some of the earlier episodes of the show, she did tend to sound somewhat like Fluttershy.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:21 am

Eh I don't know if its the writing. Some of Pinkie's lines are randomly louder than others and I just don't see why the writer would put it in the script for her to suddenly scream.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:29 am

Because some writers see her that way, and others don't. Like AKR, who writes her off as more "lolrandom" than others.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:15 am

Yea, Pinkie has the least consistent character in the show, which is common for 'the funny one'.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:51 am

It is like we have a general idea how each character would act in any given situation expect for Pinkie.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:24 am

It all depends on who writes what episode as well, though it's also happened to characters such as RD and Spike.
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Postby Doctor Zoidberg, Homeowner (?) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:10 am

Scuderia Ferrarity wrote::rainbert: :"Applejack, these apples are defective! I wanted some fresh cider ...
:saddash: :"so I jammed a straw into one of em' and I can hardly get any juice out at all!"
:squintyjack:"Uh that's not how apples work. How did you get the idea to do that?"

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:3: :"You can clearly do it with an orange..."
:liarjack: :"Uh that's more of a metaphorical concept describing the uh pure unadulterated nature of said brand of orange juice. "
:v: :"what?"
:applejargh: :"Just eat the dang apples, Rainbow!


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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:44 am

...OK, there are too many episodes of The Simpsons for me to tell what episode that comes from. :v:
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