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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:52 am

Because I'm random and do stupid things when I'm bored, I thought it would be nice to share, so far this year IDW has made a combined total of $2,071,943.02 in the Direct Market. Off of MLP Comics. *thats sales for Physical copies of the comics/trades/etc not counting the micro fun-packs... If you add those & digital it's probably more*

And yes, that is good! :v: :allears: :awesomedash:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 1:47 pm

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Ahahahaha, that's exactly what I'd like to see. Have it be about a different story or switch up the styles and it'd be golden. :allears:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:39 pm

I thought Dave Polsky did rather well for himself with For Whom the Sweetie Belle Tolls, when it came to showing an event (Sweetie Belle's birthday) from two perspectives, so it is certainly a technique not foreign to the show itself.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:19 pm

Niels Olof wrote:I thought Dave Polsky did rather well for himself with For Whom the Sweetie Belle Tolls, when it came to showing an event (Sweetie Belle's birthday) from two perspectives, so it is certainly a technique not foreign to the show itself.

It's About Time did that as well, in that by the second time around we knew what was actually bothering Future Twilight.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:46 pm

So today I saw some MLP figures in a supermarket toy machine. I was very tempted to get one but the movie was literally 2 minutes from starting and I wanted to get there ASAP.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:45 pm


News coverage of a brony con that only shows two scenes with someone dressed as Chrysalis. :-I


You call that professorial journalism!? :rant:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:42 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:So today I saw some MLP figures in a supermarket toy machine. I was very tempted to get one but the movie was literally 2 minutes from starting and I wanted to get there ASAP.


What were they, re-used molds of something previous?
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Postby Sobana (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 3:08 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:So today I saw some MLP figures in a supermarket toy machine. I was very tempted to get one but the movie was literally 2 minutes from starting and I wanted to get there ASAP.

You made the hard call. Don't feel bad for it.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:58 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:
What were they, re-used molds of something previous?


Yeah, I think they were. The picture on the box had Pinkie (with...wings? :psygum: ) and Trixie. Might have been a knockoff but it used the MLP logo and name so... :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:20 am

Do knock offs know no shame?
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:31 am

If they did, they wouldn't be knockoffs, would they? :v:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:02 am

I yeld to your superior debating skills. :-I
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Postby abrony-mouse (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:20 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Because I'm random and do stupid things when I'm bored, I thought it would be nice to share, so far this year IDW has made a combined total of $2,071,943.02 in the Direct Market. Off of MLP Comics. *thats sales for Physical copies of the comics/trades/etc not counting the micro fun-packs... If you add those & digital it's probably more*

And yes, that is good! :v: :allears: :awesomedash:

:starity: woah, off just MLP

it's great that they're appealing to young pony-fans generally*, because those comics do rock :3:



(*my term for non-brony-culture intended audience :P )
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 11:37 am

Yeah pony is literally the best selling comic they have! :party:

Not to say others don't do well, Godzilla, Samurai Jack, TMNT & Transformers pull decent numbers, but not as good as pony. The only other IDW comic that sold almost as well add FIM last month was the first issue of the NEW G.I.Joe series. It was #2 for IDW where Pony between FIM/FF & the 2014 annual was #1 #3 & #4
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:10 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Because I'm random and do stupid things when I'm bored, I thought it would be nice to share, so far this year IDW has made a combined total of $2,071,943.02 in the Direct Market. Off of MLP Comics. *thats sales for Physical copies of the comics/trades/etc not counting the micro fun-packs... If you add those & digital it's probably more*

And yes, that is good! :v: :allears: :awesomedash:


That is beyond impressive. :whatsup:
It's safe to say even after the final episode of FiM airs, IDW will do everything they can to keep the comics going.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:51 pm

I'm sure that the comics will keep going until G5 begins. After all, I do not think there'd be an immediate loss of interest in all things FiM just because the show ends.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:54 pm

I honestly don't think there will be a G5. If anything it'll probably be the same style as FIM visually. And heck maybe even the same world just with a different chars/timeline!?

That said. Stuff like that doesn't mean much to comics. As the TF comics use characters from all generations for their own Origional story. So theoretically if there ever was a G5 it & a FIM comic could easily co-exist.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:59 pm

Reasons like this is why I believe FiM will be around for a few more seasons. :smirk:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:06 pm

It's best to just enjoy what you have while you have it.

As the old saying goes... "Yesterday is history, tommorow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That's why it's called the present." :twiright:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:30 pm

Sobana wrote:Reasons like this is why I believe FiM will be around for a few more seasons. :smirk:


Exactly. It's so huge right now, it's obviously they're going to ride it out for as long as possible and I, for one, am for it. :)
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:22 pm

Incase anyone is interested the first MLP omnibus collecting issues 1-12 of the mane series also came out today!

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Only $24.99. *thats roughly 2 dollars an issue pretty good deal*!
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Postby Sobana (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:11 am

I bought them all already. I see no reason not to buy them all again. :v:

This topic feels like it deserve it's own comic book thread.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:07 am

Sobana wrote:I bought them all already. I see no reason not to buy them all again. :v:

This topic feels like it deserve it's own comic book thread.

There's a stickied thread in The Changeling's Dungeon with links of where to buy the comics, so something like an Amazon link for this book would go there. Discussion of the stories in it would go in the individual issue threads, of course.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:56 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:There's a stickied thread in The Changeling's Dungeon with links of where to buy the comics, so something like an Amazon link for this book would go there. Discussion of the stories in it would go in the individual issue threads, of course.

Yay for organization! :party:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:06 am

Sobana wrote:I bought them all already. I see no reason not to buy them all again. :v:

This topic feels like it deserve it's own comic book thread.



You should always double/triple/quadruple dip for ponies! :v: :-P
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Postby Sobana (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:28 am

That is good advice. I shall live by that advice. :-P
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:26 pm

On the subject of the actual show...

It struck me this morning that one thing they really could stand to revisit, if they're interested in perpetuating/recapturing that feeling of "childlike innocence" or whatever you want to call it that S1 had, is the relationship between Pinkie Pie and Rainbow Dash.

Remember? It seems like forever ago, but S1 had this kind of mini-arc between the two of them. It was set up (and had most of its expression) in Griffon the Brush Off, when they went from RD thinking Pinkie was just annoying to discovering they had something in common:

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It was then hinted at crossways in Dragonshy (the little gags about scaring/pranking each other), and then not much else in the way of direct mentions for the rest of the season; but then in Party of One we had what feels like a deliberate mirroring of GtBO in how RD and Pinkie relate to each other, and in retrospect it puts a lot of other episodes into perspective. There's the high-speed chase scene with the blurry colorful trails, which is all but a direct reference to the Looney Tunes chase in GtBO; and then the fact that RD was the one to go snap Pinkie out of her delusional state is playing on the fact that by this point they're supposed to be one of the pairs of ponies who understand one another best (RD having accepted Pinkie to the extent that they both love pranking, and Pinkie throughout the season with all her well-studied knowledge of RD's mindset and backstory, like how she's the one to explain how a Sonic Rainboom works).

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(What got me thinking about this, weirdly, was recalling what notorious fanfics were in play at the time Party of One came out, which is why that episode seemed like such a crazy coincidence and/or the show somehow playing eerily into the fans' wildest expectations within a timeframe of weeks.)


It made me remember that the stuff fans were writing in the S1 timeframe often centered on the Pinkie/RD relationship, because it looked at the time like one of the central arcs of the show; and I realized that ever since then it's been all but ignored by the writers. Sure, there have been lots of episodes that focus on one-on-one friendships that have plenty of narrative "meat" on them—RD and Fluttershy being one big front-and-center one, and Rarity/Applejack being a more subdued/background one, at least until Simple Ways—and for what it's worth they've felt like very mature, realistic treatments of relationships between disparate adult people, which is to the show's great credit. But the RD/Pinkie thing, centered on playground pranking and Pepe le Pew cartoony visual gags, is one of those relics from an earlier, simpler time that almost seems quaint when you go back and look at it now. It's probably a critically better show from the standpoint of the material it handles now and the way it handles it; but critical quality in and of itself wasn't what hooked us in at the outset. It was also this aspect of playground innocence that somehow felt properly and respectfully handled with stuff like season-long story arcs.

Can the show get back to the way things like that felt? Or has it "grown up" too much?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:59 pm

That is something I wish they'd go back to. I think it's a far more interesting use of two characters together than all the countless times that Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy have been featured. After all, they're easy to use together since they're both pegasi and have known each other since they were kids, but that common origin (as well as the sheer number of times they've been used now) makes them a bit dull. I think it was a lot more interesting to see how Rainbow Dash knew Pinkie Pie but didn't really like her all that much in the beginning, but then they managed to find a common interest and actually bond over that.

Wonderbolts Academy had a lot of Pinkie Pie worrying over and being attached to Rainbow Dash (even literally attached, in the scene where they hugged so hard that Rainbow's eyes were bulging out of her skull :v:). Outside of that, though, I can't think of any especially big examples where those two have been used together since S1.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:39 pm

Yeah, I have a instinct that they might go back to that sort of thing in S5...it'd be great to see them dive into that area again. :allears:
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:00 pm

I guess I hadn't really noticed that until you pointed it out. I think it would be great to see those two focused on together again. Their shared love of pranks could make for a fun episode. :-P :awesomedash:

But then again, it's not something that I'm necessarily chomping at the bit for. Because I think the fact that I didn't notice the lack of RDxPP bonding is a testament to how diverse and expansive the FiM universe continues to be. There's just so much great potential still waiting to be explored. And while more "playground innocence" stuff would always be welcome in my book, I think the show has grown to the point where it doesn't need that if it doesn't want to. To me, Season 1 felt like the childlike innocence was a primary defining trait. Sure, there was a ton of other great stuff - but the low-key one-on-one friendship stuff was much more prominent.

Now, it feels to show has so much more to offer. There continue to be lots of fun things going on, but the staff can still do some excellent childlike innocence things - and handle them with respect - when they want to (TT123 immediately comes to mind). It's not that the Season 1 vibe is gone from the show. I think it's just been scaled back to make some room for other things. And I'm OK with that. This world's got a whole lot more to show us. And I'm excited to see where it goes. :allears:

PS - I've always been bothered by the whole concept of "critical quality." This is just my opinion, but there's no such thing as critically good or bad where media is concerned. Some people would argue that the show is "critically worse" nowadays. Some people would argue that the show is "critically better" nowadays. Neither one is right. Yet at the same time, both are right. Because at the end of the day, it's all just individual opinions. And that's fine. But the whole concept of critical quality seems to imply that there is some objective measure of how good or bad something is. And I don't believe that such a measure exists. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:26 pm

Eh I find the arc of Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy's friendship far more interesting than with Pinkie. The Rainbow Dash in Dragonshy is such a different character from the one in Hurricane Fluttershy and other episodes.

Dash went from seeing Fluttershy as a liability in Dragonshy to seeing her as the only one who can handle getting Twilight a message in Magic Duel.

Plus their interactions in Trade Ya, Games Ponies Play, and Spike at Your Service is adorable.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:28 pm

Oh yeah...I also still think we should get more Pinkie and Rarity moments, maybe even an episode...Putting Your Hoof Down showed they had a great character chemistry together.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:41 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Eh I find the arc of Rainbow Dash and Fluttershy's friendship far more interesting than with Pinkie.

Well to be fair, RD/Fluts are way way more developed. RD/Pinkie is mostly abandoned after GTBO.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:54 pm

Which could be because the writers realized there wasn't much further the RD/Pinkie thing could go. It's either keep riffing on the pranking thing (which would get stale), or find some other kind of common ground between them, which is rather on the implausible side (after all, that's why RD would have dismissed Pinkie as annoying in the first place).

That's kind of what I meant by the show being more "critically good" now that it's dropped that thread in favor of more true-to-life kinds of friendships, like Rarity/Fluttershy (so many layers of yin/yang type interactions) or Rarity/AJ (country mouse vs. city mouse is a perennial trope for a reason). The Pinkie/RD thing was based on a kind of a spur-of-the-moment lark, and maybe the most realistic thing for it to have done is fizzle.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:11 pm

It's worth at least an ep on all 15 possible pairs. We got AJ/Fluts, Twi/RD, Pinkie/AJ in S4, which were pretty fresh.

Let's see, what hasn't really been done yet... *lists all 15*

-Twi/AJ: Leadership dynamic has been addressed a couple times, but no episode explicitly on the two. Applebuck Season is probably the closest.
-Twi/Rarity: Not really done
-Twi/Fluts: Bird in the Hoof
-Twi/RD: Testing Testing 1 2 3
-Twi/Pinkie: Feeling Pinkie Keen and shown in snippets in several other eps
-AJ/Rarity: Sisterhooves Social, Simple Ways, etc.
-AJ/Fluts: Bats
-AJ/RD: Fall Weather Friends and shown in snippets in several other eps
-AJ/Pinkie: Pinkie Apple Pie
-Fluts/Rarity: Green Isn't Your Color, Filli Vanilli to an extent
-Fluts/RD: *cough* Hurricane Fluttershy *cough*, Sonic Rainboom, etc.
-Fluts/Pinkie: Not really done
-RD/Rarity: Not really done
-RD/Pinkie: Griffon the Brush Off
-Rarity/Pinkie: Only Putting Your Hoof Down on the side

Give me that Andrea Libman double combo sometime...
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:14 pm

I'm still waiting for stuff with Rarity and either Pinkie Pie or Rainbow Dash. About the most we've seen her with one of those two has been PYHD (as you mentioned) for Pinkie Pie and Dragon Quest for Rainbow Dash.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:30 pm

One of the many many things I definitely want to see in S5 is more friendship relations between the rest of the Main Six...it's been one my want list for a long time.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:52 pm

Regardless of PP/RD, I think anything involving Pinkie Pie as an actual personality instead of a caricature would be welcome. She's an interesting character to explore, but she's usually relegated to shallower comic relief.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:09 pm

Eh, I think we've seen a lot of what's made her tick over the course of the series. She's not really "comic relief" to me as she does provide a purpose more often than not.
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:22 pm

Eh. Pinkie's literal purpose is to entertain, so I think it's fine without another real deep look into Pinkie's life or relationships. At least not as deep as some of the other relationships have been explored, or as deep as Party of One, Too Many Pinkie Pies, Pinkie Apple Pie, or Cranky Doodle Donkey. :pinkieshrug:

EDIT: Not to say that TMPP or CDD are actually that deep, but they're comparatively deep for Pinkie.
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