Re: Offseason General Show Chat
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Sobana wrote:He hates girly mushy stuff
Perrydotto wrote:Yeah, Spike got more interest in "girly things" than one would expect. He's a really good balance between the little brother archetype and a fitting character for a feminine setting. If he was outright dismissive of girl stuff, it just wouldn't fit with a positively feminine show like Friendship is Magic.
Illuminations wrote:That's funny because I could've sworn that the modern trope was the 'boys are icky, throw rocks at them' archetype.
Marioland1 wrote:To be fair, Spike has about as much to do at a Gala as I do, that is to say, nothing. He might talk around a little bit, but given Spike, he wouldn't find himself successful and eventually just sit around the punch bowl and snack on whatever is nearby. Not really what I'd call the most successful of nights, and yet still attractive to the point of wanting desperately to go just because it's a change from the norm and it means you can put off cleaning the bookshelves for another few days.
SlateSlabrock wrote:Although the Gala probably isn't Spike's kind of party, he does seem to be waaay more in tune with the Canterlot social scene than Twilight (see: Hoity Toity).
Headless Horse wrote:It's part and parcel with the show's approach to femininity as being remarkable in its unremarkability. Equestria is female-dominated, but nobody stomps around going all GRRRL POWER or anything; it's just "the way it is".
Spike is a boy who's growing up more or less well-adjusted in a default-female world, sort of the male equivalent of a tomboy. By which I mean we humans take for granted—for better or worse—that male is the "standard" and female things are a variant on that standard; so a girl has the choice to embrace girly things (and never be taken seriously), or be a tomboy and be seen to have an appreciation for "normal" male things, which stands to earn you more respect in certain quarters, though it is an implicit acknowledgment of that fallacious "standard". But in Equestria, if you're growing up male, you can either be alland be seen as a weirdo, or embrace feminine interests and become part of the "in" crowd. Spike speaks Twilight's language; in one of their first scenes together he tells her her hair is kinda pretty all messed up like that—something a boy would never say in our world, but something he's completely comfortable expressing in Equestria.
FiM doesn't just present a world where female is the standard, for once; it also presents ideals of masculinity that are not destructive to that notion and don't chafe under it. It shows how feminism is not about dominance or censorship or eradicating humor. It's presenting the idea that gender politics isn't a zero-sum game, and it's doing it silently, without once explicitly pointing out the ways in which its lessons are applicable to our own world.
ShieldedDiamond wrote:
He seemed really excited about the gala until everyone broke up. He was really excited to talk about it to everyone.
ROBOT B9 wrote:LPS might be possible (though, judging from the show's reception, IDK how likely it is) but I really can't see Transformers getting into the mix, at least in an episode of the show. The two worlds are too...different to really work and that by combining them, it might just make a mishmash of the two cartoons.
SlateSlabrock wrote:Although the Gala probably isn't Spike's kind of party, he does seem to be waaay more in tune with the Canterlot social scene than Twilight (see: Hoity Toity).
Fizzbuzz wrote:Spike has always been more outgoing than Twilight. I mean, consider the first episode. He was already popular enough to where he'd gotten that present from Moondancer, whereas Twilight was still a huge shut-in.
AppleCobbler44 wrote:So I made a thread about "What Happened to Shared Universes in Cartoons" and I mentioned the Hub/Discovery Family and how despite Transformers, Littlest Pet Shop, and MLP appearing together in commercials, I'm surprised there hasn't been an actual crossover episode or special.
It'd seem like the easiest get-rich-quick scheme in the history of toyetic shows![]()
I mean, MLP already admitted that there was no self contained universe, since EqG exists. So what's stopping the next TF or LPS crossover?
Fizzbuzz wrote:Spike has always been more outgoing than Twilight. I mean, consider the first episode. He was already popular enough to where he'd gotten that present from Moondancer, whereas Twilight was still a huge shut-in.
SlateSlabrock wrote:Although the Gala probably isn't Spike's kind of party, he does seem to be waaay more in tune with the Canterlot social scene than Twilight (see: Hoity Toity).