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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 5:52 am

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If it weren't canon, it wouldn't have happened.


...well, this conversation just took an interesting turn.

Would love to hear your thoughts on how the musical numbers work!
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 5:57 am

PaulloDEC wrote:Would love to hear your thoughts on how the musical numbers work!

It certainly is interesting! I'll give you a hint: Have you ever compared the musical numbers between Equestria Girls and the show? Despite what you might think, the movies are not musicals!
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 6:22 am

See, I personally think that episodes like Pinkie Pride improved her character a lot. It showed us WHY Pinkie does these things, it delves into her mind and how she faced a sense of rejection and fear in her mind and how she eventually makes things right for Rainbow's birthday.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 6:28 am

PaulloDEC wrote:
...well, this conversation just took an interesting turn.

Would love to hear your thoughts on how the musical numbers work!


It's weird but within the realms of possibility to imagine that ponies as a species have some trait that makes them tend to just burst into song, often in groups, so I can kind of give that one a pass (even if I don't subscribe to it myself). Which makes Fluttershy suddenly being unwilling to sing in front of others, even as part of a group, sort of a continuity error, but again, not completely inexplicable.

It does kind of bewilder me to try to imagine how someone can consider the ending to Magic Duel as something that actually happened, though.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 6:31 am

Dulset Tarn wrote:But either way, consider this: You say that it may have been shortened for time, but why was it there in the first place? What did that flashback actually add to the episode at all?

I'm still trying to figure that out myself. Honestly, I think it might have been done purely to satisfy the fans who had been clamoring to see how that played out. Ironically, those fans are the ones who ended up the most disappointed because it was lazily written and rushed to fit in the space of a token scene in an unrelated episode and didn't introduce any new information and, if anything, scaled it back compared to what we'd assumed happened.

But even if they'd dedicated a whole episode to it and brought Lauren herself back to write it, would it have been satisfying? That storybook opening from the very first episode already told you everything you needed to know. Sure, sometimes a retelling of an earlier story can introduce new details that recontextualize what we'd already been told or even reveal it to have been inaccurate. But unless someone had a specific reason to do that, we'd probably just get a lot of padding. Brevity is the soul of wit, after all, and if your one-minute story is compelling on its own, without leaving any specific loose ends, then that's a sign that you can stop telling it. Geek culture in particular tends to be kind of bad about this, expecting more details will make the things they love even better — despite the fact that they more than anyone else get a lot of enjoyment out of speculating and discussing the parts that were left unstated.

So I guess what I'm saying is that fans were silly to clamor for a flashback to Nightmare Moon's defeat, and the writers were silly to try to indulge them. I'd have preferred them to use the extra time and animation budget to flesh out Discord's flashback a little more, since, as Headless said, that was similarly disappointing and less justifiably so.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 6:35 am

Pocket wrote:But even if they'd dedicated a whole episode to it and brought Lauren herself back to write it, would it have been satisfying?

If done right? Absolutely.
No offense, but your post smells like sour grapes to me.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 7:02 am

Dulset Tarn wrote:If done right? Absolutely.
No offense, but your post smells like sour grapes to me.


Pocket makes a good point though. I'm sure you could've found a bunch of Star Wars fans pre-Phantom Menace who would've loved the idea of the George Lucas, the creator of the franchise, returning to tell us more about the Force. Then he did, and we got midichlorians, and a lot of those people realized that the mystery of the Force was better than probably 99% of the possible explanations.

Lauren probably told us as little about the Celestia/Nightmare Moon struggle as she did because she knew that the mystery would make it that much more magical.
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Postby Strangest Letter (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 7:18 am

Dulset Tarn wrote:Ooh, gimme some examples :)


Well there's Griffon The Brush Off, the "we can't prank Fluttershy" scene is followed up by Pinkie throwing a party for someone who bullied Fluttershy and then casually dismissing Fluttershy when she voices her discomfort. Then there's Green Isn't Your Color where Pinkie feverishly stalks Twilight and makes her terrified of trying to patch things up between Fluttershy and Rarity. Then there small (admittedly really petty) things like invasions of personal space, interrogating a small child, entertaining the idea that eternal chaos would be worth it for chocolate rain.

"At her worst" was a bad way to put it. What I meant to say was that Pinkie has always sort of had a problem with getting carried away with her actions to the point of seeming insensitivity, that's a fine and relatable character flaw. It's just a flaw that I thought popped up mostly in season one.

I don't know, recently it seems like season one keeps getting held up as some flawless masterpiece of writing and characterization, and later seasons are chastised for not living up to some pretty questionable standards.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 8:46 am

Strangest Letter wrote:I don't know, recently it seems like season one keeps getting held up as some flawless masterpiece of writing and characterization, and later seasons are chastised for not living up to some pretty questionable standards.
:-/

As someone who loved S1 uniquely from the rest, I would say it's because it was simpler, not because it was a masterpiece. It was about social learning, charm, showing more believable interpersonal situations than most cartoons of the genre, and bucking the trend with genuine positivity. It also had Suited For Success, which is something that only new shows get to experiment with subject-wise, before the firmer foundations are established. The things S1 are held up for are rooted in likability within content constraints, not grand craftsmanship.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 9:15 am

Strangest Letter wrote:I don't know, recently it seems like season one keeps getting held up as some flawless masterpiece of writing and characterization, and later seasons are chastised for not living up to some pretty questionable standards.
:-/


While there's certainly people like Homeswirl with good reasons for favouring the first season, I feel like there's also a lot of people who simply have warm and fuzzy feelings for a time when the show was still shiny and new. Five seasons in and we're well and truly past the honeymoon period.

Then there's Lauren Faust evangelists, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 10:07 am

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Then there's Lauren Faust evangelists, but that's a whole other kettle of fish.


What do Lauren Faust evangelists spew, if I may ask :smirk:

I mean, I usually see a lot of: "The show isn't the same with her", "I liked it when she was in charge", and so on but that's it. They never explain why exactly maybe outside of: "I dont like the current direction they're taking with the show."

However, I will admit that I do gravitate toward the notion of the show being better with her (and Renzetti) and I like to think S3 and onwards would have been better if they were still around. Granted, I don't have a machine where I can travel to an alternate universe to see if that's the case or not but given Faust's and Renzetti's past (and later) works, I do think had they stuck around and had more freedom like the current showrunners are supposedly having now, I would still be thoroughly enjoying the show.

Again, I don't have a crystal ball, I'm just going off their past and later works, as well as some certain things I miss from Season 1 like the few mean-spirited moments. And then there are those bits of information she revealed on Twitter, Deviantart, or in the Elements of Harmony book that mentioned what she planned to do which, at least on paper, sound more interesting than what actually happened on the show, especially Trixie which she planned on making her parallel Nightmare Moon (which is why while she was around Magic Duel wasn't greenlit for S2) which hints at something rather ambitious. Instead, we got Magic Duel and Trixie turned good like in the last 3 minutes
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Edit: With the current showrunners, I really don't know what their endgame is or just what they want to do that would interest me. The Wonderbolt arc has been going nowhere, AJ is still... AJ, we probably will have to wait till Season 6 or 7 to see the CMC maybe get their cutie marks, I'm not sure what they want to do with Twilight (Lauren at least said she wanted Twilight to succeed Celestia), and so on. Now, to be fair, they are demonstrating that this season will have more adventure episodes but I rather see something significant that's character-related.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 10:34 am

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What do Lauren Faust evangelists spew, if I may ask :smirk:

I mean, I usually see a lot of: "The show isn't the same with her", "I liked it when she was in charge", and so on but that's it. They never explain why exactly maybe outside of: "I dont like the current direction they're taking with the show."

However, I will admit that I do gravitate toward the notion of the show being better with her (and Renzetti) and I like to think S3 and onwards would have been better if they were still around. Granted, I don't have a machine where I can travel to an alternate universe to see if that's the case or not but given Faust's and Renzetti's past (and later) works, I do think had they stuck around and had more freedom like the current showrunners are supposedly having now, I would still be thoroughly enjoying the show.

Again, I don't have a crystal ball, I'm just going off their past and later works, as well as some certain things I miss from Season 1 like the few mean-spirited moments. And then there are those bits of information she revealed on Twitter, Deviantart, or in the Elements of Harmony book that mentioned what she planned to do which, at least on paper, sound more interesting than what actually happened on the show, especially Trixie which she planned on making her parallel Nightmare Moon (which is why while she was around Magic Duel wasn't greenlit for S2) which hints at something rather ambitious. Instead, we got Magic Duel and Trixie turned good like in the last 3 minutes
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Edit: With the current showrunners, I really don't know what their endgame is or just what they want to do that would interest me. The Wonderbolt arc has been going nowhere, AJ is still... AJ, we probably will have to wait till Season 6 or 7 to see the CMC maybe get their cutie marks, I'm not sure what they want to do with Twilight (Lauren at least said she wanted Twilight to succeed Celestia), and so on. Now, to be fair, they are demonstrating that this season will have more adventure episodes but I rather see something significant that's character-related.
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The people I speak of are the ones who simply can't let go of Faust and seem more interested in fantasising about what she may or may not have done (had she stayed on) than try to appreciate the show that they do have. Those people always strike me as being more invested in Faust herself than the actual show. Maybe it's my upbringing with Doctor Who, but I've always understood that the best television shows, and the ones that last, need to change. Learning to let go of the past and embrace the future is a big part of it.

On the topic of Faust's mythical ongoing MLP series, I'll bet it would've been fantastic. I hope one day she'll let a bit more slip on what she had planned.

Re: the current showrunners, I doubt they have an endgame. How do you plan an endgame when you've no idea when the show is going to end? I'm fairly certain it has already lasted significantly longer than anyone involved thought it would.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 11:36 am

Dulset Tarn wrote:Ooh right, let's see if this works...

...Aww, "the board attachment quota has been reached". So much for showing the nifty graph I made of my episode ratings.
But anyway, I'm new here and I know I'm just sorta haphazardly throwing opinions out there, I'm actually just testing the waters to see how you guys respond and how fast things are here. So far I like what I see! :)

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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 12:13 pm

AppleCobbler44 wrote:Edit: With the current showrunners, I really don't know what their endgame is or just what they want to do that would interest me. The Wonderbolt arc has been going nowhere, AJ is still... AJ, we probably will have to wait till Season 6 or 7 to see the CMC maybe get their cutie marks, I'm not sure what they want to do with Twilight (Lauren at least said she wanted Twilight to succeed Celestia), and so on. Now, to be fair, they are demonstrating that this season will have more adventure episodes but I rather see something significant that's character-related.
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I don't know how widespread the motivation is of watching the show to see what the endgame is, but I sure as hell know it ain't why I watch it. I couldn't give less of a shit what they're planning to do with Twilight as a princess or whether Luna is supposed to develop into this big mythical Sandman figure or what Applejack as a character is allegedly supposed to turn into. Sure, those are fine hooks upon which to hang episode stories, and in some cases might even work as thematic glue for a whole season; but what I watch the show for is to see fun stories well told, starring this cast of funny and relatable characters in a world of magic and rainbows. As long as the individual episodes keep making me laugh and impressing me with the level of effort they put into the animation and production, it's still giving me exactly what I wanted from the show since day one.

I never got it into my head that MLP:FiM was Breaking Bad or ATLA or something. It's a kids' comedy cartoon. As far as I'm concerned, if it has any kind of overarching storyline at all it's ahead of the game for its genre. But that was never what the show was about, and considering how much more effort and emphasis is put on jokes and gags and character-driven comedy throughout the series compared to epic plot progression, I'm sure Lauren and the current writers would all be taken aback to hear that the way people were reading the show was as a continuity-heavy mythological drama.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 12:48 pm

Yeah, I'm of the same mind. FiM isn't meant to be this big expansive show with an extreme continuity and winding storyline like Breaking Bad or Dallas. Making it out to be that seems like it's trying to make the show into something bigger than it actually is. It's a wonderful show and I love every bit of it to pieces but it seems like reading it as a mythological drama is just...strange.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 12:56 pm

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I don't know how widespread the motivation is of watching the show to see what the endgame is, but I sure as hell know it ain't why I watch it. I couldn't give less of a shit what they're planning to do with Twilight as a princess or whether Luna is supposed to develop into this big mythical Sandman figure or what Applejack as a character is allegedly supposed to turn into. Sure, those are fine hooks upon which to hang episode stories, and in some cases might even work as thematic glue for a whole season; but what I watch the show for is to see fun stories well told, starring this cast of funny and relatable characters in a world of magic and rainbows. As long as the individual episodes keep making me laugh and impressing me with the level of effort they put into the animation and production, it's still giving me exactly what I wanted from the show since day one.

I never got it into my head that MLP:FiM was Breaking Bad or ATLA or something. It's a kids' comedy cartoon. As far as I'm concerned, if it has any kind of overarching storyline at all it's ahead of the game for its genre. But that was never what the show was about, and considering how much more effort and emphasis is put on jokes and gags and character-driven comedy throughout the series compared to epic plot progression, I'm sure Lauren and the current writers would all be taken aback to hear that the way people were reading the show was as a continuity-heavy mythological drama.


I'm probably a minority on that :v: It's not necessarily the 'endgame' I'm looking for but just some arc that doesnt begin and end in one episode. A character oriented one that actually is achieved in a timely manner, instead of starting from the very first season and probably concluding in Season 6 or whatever.
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So yeah, I would say I watched the show for the fun little stories too. But over time, I started to wonder if they'll ever move past that enough and start introducing character arcs. Is it unreasonable to expect that? I dunno. Maybe, perhaps. There was a video (I think it was by PBS Game/Show) discussing why young fans of a certain work eventually want that work to become darker, more mature, and so on. now, I'm not saying I want FiM to be all gloom and doom, but as the YouTuber said, as we grow older, they may expect the work to evolve and grow too. And for me I would like to see the show develop arcs rather than more or less continuing one-off episodes that begin and end whatever growth or issue at hand. It just feels stagnant to me and when they do try to introduce something new like a story arc, it didn't match up to my expectations. Like it was sorta touched upon but never fully explored.

Like when I heard that Season 4 was going to have a Season-long arc, I was actually pumped. Finally we get to see the characters have some goal that they'll need to seek and resolve and grow significantly. Instead, in execution, it felt very loose and disconnected. Each character got their keys by having an episode that began and ended that story arc within that very episode.

For the record, I haven't seen both of those shows :modesty: I have seen Korra so I suppose that's similiar in structure to ATLA, maybe more linear from what I've heard. But in any case, no I'm not asking for it to be super serialized where You.Cant.Miss.A.Single.Episode.Or.Else. I can't think of a show that finds that perfect balance between serialized and filler epsiodes within a season. But I guess all I'm asking for is a.) Dont turn it into a serialized show but b.) At least maybe make 1/4th of the Season episodes involve some character arc
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In either case, i'm going to catch up on the remaining Season 5 episodes now :munch:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:16 pm

Honestly, I'm thankful that Meghan and the gang, and the folks at Hasbro who help wrangle stuff like the comics and trading cards, have given and continued to give as much of a shit about FiM's canon as they have. Children's cartoons like this usually don't bother maintaining any sort of canon beyond the solid facts established in the first episodes. Even though they're explicitly not setting out to make a massively serialized show, the people still working on FiM try at least somewhat hard to keep the characters and the world coherent, so I really appreciate that they do this.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:29 pm

>comics
>giving a shit about canon

I'm sorry but that's hilarious.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:35 pm

Dulset Tarn wrote:>comics
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I'm sorry but that's hilarious.


I think the comics have done a fine job of fitting with everything. The occasional error here and there but not much cheaper more than the show itself.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:47 pm

The Doctor wrote:I think the comics have done a fine job of fitting with everything. The occasional error here and there but not much cheaper more than the show itself.

Nightmare arc?
Reflections?
Fluttershy having a secret knitting basement?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 2:58 pm

Dulset Tarn wrote:Nightmare arc?
Reflections?
Fluttershy having a secret knitting basement?



While I'm not a huge fan of the nightmare forces, even Faust said there were other forces behind Luna's transformation. I don't see a big issue with their existence.

I really like the Reflections Arc. Again don't see any conflicts with it and the show. I think the ending was a bit weak and could have used a few tweaks.

Fluttershy likes to knit. So what?
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:06 pm

The Doctor wrote:

While I'm not a huge fan of the nightmare forces, even Faust said there were other forces behind Luna's transformation. I don't see a big issue with their existence.

I really like the Reflections Arc. Again don't see any conflicts with it and the show. I think the ending was a bit weak and could have used a few tweaks.

Fluttershy likes to knit. So what?

It's painfully clear that the comics don't give a shit about canon, they try to make their own at every available opportunity for even the most important and seminal events of the show. It's not about contradictions, it's about respect.
I mean heck, someone earlier in this thread brought up how the character of Anakin ruined Darth Vader for them. It's a similar kind of thing, except now pretend the prequels were written as a fanfiction that LucasArts said is totally canon.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:13 pm

I feel like the people working on the comics do try to keep their ideas in line with what's been previously established. That said, I don't think this means they should be disallowed from doing anything new and unusual, just because the show may very well never reference what happens in them. If the comics never did anything new then I think that'd make them horribly stale.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:14 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I feel like the people working on the comics do try to keep their ideas in line with what's been previously established. That said, I don't think this means they should be disallowed from doing anything new and unusual, just because the show may very well never reference what happens in them. If the comics never did anything new then I think that'd make them horribly stale.

I vehemently disagree :amazing:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:15 pm

I don't think that's fair. I think the comic team cares just as much for the world and characters as the show team. They certainly seem to do more world building than the show and I think have been far more successful than not with it. I also love how the comics give more time to the secondary characters that go largely ignored in the show (like all the other Princesses besides Twilight)..
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:16 pm

Besides, the comics have the ability to go places that the show might not be able to do. I don't think that there's any degree of "canon" that should or shouldn't be ignored. If it's official and made by Hasbro, it's technically canon in a sense.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:17 pm

The Doctor wrote:I don't think that's fair. I think the comic team cares just as much for the world and characters as the show team. They certainly seem to do more world building than the show and I think have been far more successful than not with it. I also love how the comics give more time to the secondary characters that go largely ignored in the show (like all the other Princesses besides Twilight)..

I hate to be rude but... You do know what fanfiction is, right?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:23 pm

Dulset Tarn wrote:I hate to be rude but... You do know what fanfiction is, right?


What does that have to do with the comics? Like them or not I think it's pretty rude to the team behind them to dismiss them as fanficion just because you don't like them.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:30 pm

The Doctor wrote:What does that have to do with the comics? Like them or not I think it's pretty rude to the team behind them to dismiss them as fanficion just because you don't like them.

I think it's pretty rude to the person you're talking to right now to suggest that I just want to dismiss them because I don't like them.
The fact is, even the best fanfiction is still fanfiction. Is it rude to say that the author's work is fanfiction? Why would it be any different for the comics?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:33 pm

Sorry if I misunderstood, but then why did you bring up fanficion if not to compare the comics to fanficion? Yes the comics teams are fans of the show, but by that logic then the show is fanficion too because it's written by fans. Difference is the show and comics (and books) count.
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Postby The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:36 pm

By right of being made at the behest by the intellectual property holder and being made by people some of whom wouldn't be interested in the series if it weren't there paycheck, the comics really do not qualify as fanfiction unless you extend fanfiction to the broadest terms. If you were to extend fanfiction to that level, FIM itself would qualify as a reboot of an existing franchise, written by different writers than that of the original show.

Whether or not the comics are canon to the show is debatable, but categorizing it as fanfiction is erroneous.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:37 pm

The Doctor wrote:Sorry if I misunderstood, but then why did you bring up fanficion if not to compare the comics to fanficion? Yes the comics teams are fans of the show, but by that logic then the show is fanficion too because it's written by fans. Difference is the show and comics (and books) count.

The comics are fanfiction, in that they are written by people other than the actual writers of the show, as all fanfiction is by definition.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:50 pm

Dulset Tarn wrote:The comics are fanfiction, in that they are written by people other than the actual writers of the show, as all fanfiction is by definition.


No, by definition fanfiction is unofficial. If it's official then by definition it is NOT fanfiction.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:53 pm

Dulset Tarn wrote:I vehemently disagree :amazing:

What do you think the comics should do, then?
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Postby Bremen (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 3:58 pm

Dulset Tarn wrote:The comics are fanfiction, in that they are written by people other than the actual writers of the show, as all fanfiction is by definition.


What's the difference between the show contracting someone to write an episode and the show contracting someone to write a comic?

The definition of fanfiction isn't really nailed down, but pretty much covers stories produced by fans and not officially recognized by the owners of the show, which doesn't apply to the comics.

Edit: Also I'm fairly sure most of the comic writers probably weren't fans of the show, at least until they were hired to write for it.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 4:05 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:What do you think the comics should do, then?

Simple, not step on the canon.
It's not a matter of what they should do. They could have good slice of life stuff like the CMC/Discord Friends Forever issue that doesn't make claims about the canon, rather than fuck it all up like in the Fluttershy Micro.
Or they could take big adventures outside the bounds of the normal show like with the Pirate arc, or at least introduce brand new conflicts to deal with in Ponyville or at large, the possibilities are endless.
The only problem is when they take established canon and characters, then make bold, world changing claims about them. The comic writers do not respect the show canon, they want to make their own.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 4:06 pm

Funny how you brought up Star Wars without comparing it to the Expanded Universe cause they're basically the same thing :pinkieshrug:

It may be canon-ish, but it's subject to change and not quite on the same level as the show. Either ignore them or enjoy them, who cares.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 4:07 pm

And even then, does it truly matter?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 4:10 pm

Dulset Tarn wrote:Simple, not step on the canon.
It's not a matter of what they should do. They could have good slice of life stuff like the CMC/Discord Friends Forever issue that doesn't make claims about the canon, rather than fuck it all up like in the Fluttershy Micro.
Or they could take big adventures outside the bounds of the normal show like with the Pirate arc, or at least introduce brand new conflicts to deal with in Ponyville or at large, the possibilities are endless.
The only problem is when they take established canon and characters, then make bold, world changing claims about them. The comic writers do not respect the show canon, they want to make their own.


How have the comics stepped on canon? Why shouldn't the comics have done the Reflections Arc when the show has shown no signs of developing Celestia and Luna's backstory? Not meant as an insult to the show, but the comics seem to do what the show doesn't. And I don't see a problem with that.
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Postby Dulset Tarn (?) » Thu May 14, 2015 4:14 pm

The Doctor wrote:How have the comics stepped on canon? Why shouldn't the comics have done the Reflections Arc when the show has shown no signs of developing Celestia and Luna's backstory? Not meant as an insult to the show, but the comics seem to do what the show doesn't. And I don't see a problem with that.

I'm glad you enjoy your fanfiction. I could probably recommend you some even better ones.
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