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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:40 am

I didn't expect MLP to be as high up as #9 in Europe. Good for them. :)
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Postby Sobana (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:10 am

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Just because they have that $5 million, doesn't mean it's good to go. It's impossible to know if something, anything could happen, that would prevent MLP from continuing. 7 years is a very long time.

Anything could happen but it doesn't mean it will. :twiright: I favor on the side optimism. seven more years of pony for sure! :party:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:53 am

Sobana wrote:I favor on the side optimism. seven more years of pony for sure! :party:


I wouldn't call it optimism...
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Postby Sobana (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 1:39 pm

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I wouldn't call it optimism...

Well, that is what my phone's auto correct insists it be called. :-P
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Postby Durandal (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:46 pm

One hundred years of pony
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:48 pm

One hundred years of pony and solitude. :v:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:29 pm

THE PONY SHALL LAST FOREVER!!! :moonie:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 5:38 pm

Truly the greatest of all realities. :v:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:16 pm

Sobana wrote:Anything could happen but it doesn't mean it will. :twiright: I favor on the side optimism. seven more years of pony for sure! :party:


I'm just saying, I have never seen or heard of any other show, (far more successful than pony) that would get 7 seasons ordered at once. Why would pony get that? It just doesn't seem like something's right about that, so I can't really see it as true. I mean, Simpsons could probably do that, but I don't even think they do.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:44 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that The Simpsons is the only show that could get such a massive order, and even then I don't think that could happen nowadays. Maybe The Big Bang Theory is popular enough nowadays for that? :pinkieshrug:

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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:36 pm

Also "South Park". Usually they would get 5 seasons ordered at a time.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Oct 15, 2014 9:41 pm

South Park also only has to do 10 episodes a year now.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:54 am

Episode count wouldn't have much to do with season ordering though, would it?
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:57 am

:skeptic: What in blue blazes would this show even do for another seven seasons!? There's scraping the bottom of the barrel, and then there's scraping out a secret Inspector Gadget-style tunnel beneath the barrel.

I can only imagine that by the end FIM would be an unrecognizable anti-parody of itself and the slice of life genre, like Mary Hartman Mary Hartman played straight and with more rainbow lasers and moon kingdoms and shit.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:03 am

Like I said before, seeing that they already abandoned several things from the first season, and have changed much, any other additional changes from this point on would continue to make it unrecognizable, and to a point where it is practically something else entirely. That's not saying change is bad, but there is only so much you can change before you've created something else entirely.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:04 am

Remember that even The Simpsons started dying by season 9 and was a smelly corpse by the end of season 12. If FiM got dragged out that long then I'd be really sad.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:15 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Remember that even The Simpsons started dying by season 9 and was a smelly corpse by the end of season 12. If FiM got dragged out that long then I'd be really sad.



That's only if you believe all shows go downhill as they go on. It's all about perspective:perception/opinion. King of the Hill Lasted 12 seasons and all 12 were equally enjoyable. IMO

And people would debate when Simpsons started to decline I've known people that say season 1-12 are gold and it's not till 13-14 where things go downhill and not till 15-16 when they go to hell.


Point is pony shouldn't have an expectation date. Specially when it's NOT an animated sitcom like KOTH or Simpsons, Family Guy, etc. it has a much more open sandbox to play in and develop on the fantasy premise alone. Not to mention the slice of life & character/world building elements.

But hey, that's just my 2-cents.

And if it still makes kids/people people happy, why take that away!?

Edit: Also I still find speculation about degradation of quality &/or how many more seasons we will won't get fairly self defeating. I understand it's hard not to do stuff like that at times, but It's like Sayin wow I really like [insert thing here]. Wonder how long till I can complain about it sucking.... That just seems borderline psychotic to me.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:56 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:
I'm just saying, I have never seen or heard of any other show, (far more successful than pony) that would get 7 seasons ordered at once. Why would pony get that? It just doesn't seem like something's right about that, so I can't really see it as true. I mean, Simpsons could probably do that, but I don't even think they do.

Because it's super cheap to make? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:34 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Remember that even The Simpsons started dying by season 9 and was a smelly corpse by the end of season 12. If FiM got dragged out that long then I'd be really sad.


Yeah, that's true. I don't want to see MLP go down that road at all.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:43 am

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Yeah, that's true. I don't want to see MLP go down that road at all.

It won't. Even after it's thirtieth season it will still smell fresh. :twiright:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:41 am

Eh. Go watch Best night ever, Party of one or Return of harmony. There's a childish charm in earlier episodes that just isn't in recent seasons, the show has changed a lot. Not that I don't love episodes like Pinkie Pride, Rarity takes Manehattan, Filly Vanilli and many others, but it's a whole different show these days.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:55 am

Eh, I still see that childish charm to it in a lot of ways. It may have matured somewhat but it's still the same to me. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:47 am

While I do miss the child like attitude, the staff did say they wanted the show to mature with the audience. They can always go back to their childish ways. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:48 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Edit: Also I still find speculation about degradation of quality &/or how many more seasons we will won't get fairly self defeating. I understand it's hard not to do stuff like that at times, but It's like Sayin wow I really like [insert thing here]. Wonder how long till I can complain about it sucking.... That just seems borderline psychotic to me.


I'm just trying to be zen here. Nothing lasts forever, and I like it when shows quit (or die) while they're ahead. Having the following type of conversation over and over again is grating:

A: Remember that awesome gag on the Simpsons that one time?
B: Mhm, yeah, but the show really started to suck after a while.
A: Uh, sure. (Thinks, "What does that have to do with the good vibe I was sharing?")

Tell you what though, if I personally feel the show is starting to suck for real I'm certainly NOT going to stick around whining about it and pooping everyone else's party.

ROBOT B9 wrote:Eh, I still see that childish charm to it in a lot of ways. It may have matured somewhat but it's still the same to me. :pinkieshrug:


Ditto.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:09 am

Highbrow Dash wrote:Eh. Go watch Best night ever, Party of one or Return of harmony. There's a childish charm in earlier episodes that just isn't in recent seasons, the show has changed a lot. Not that I don't love episodes like Pinkie Pride, Rarity takes Manehattan, Filly Vanilli and many others, but it's a whole different show these days.

Change isn't necessarily bad, though. I think the show is better off for having shed some of that childishness since, to achieve that charm, it required the characters to act rather immature. The way they started acting more their age past S1 made them feel more believable to me (despite the fact that they are talking cartoon ponies in a magical fantasyland, of course :v:). And it's not like that deprives the target audience of stories that would relate closely to them, since the CMC and Spike have also gotten bigger roles since S1.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:14 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:And if it still makes kids/people people happy, why take that away?

That's basically how I feel.

I hope G4 will go on as long as possible, I'll simply stop watching it if I don't like it anymore, just like I did with the Simpsons (and who knows, maybe I'll be able to enjoy a bunch of episodes down the line even then); if it ends early on the other hand, I'll be forced to stop watching regardless, so I prefer to have a choice.

I don't care for a "proper conclusion", because despite all the developments and continuity this is still an episodic cartoon, so the way it ends won't affect my enjoyment of the past Seasons in the slightest.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:44 am

Sobana wrote:While I do miss the child like attitude, the staff did say they wanted the show to mature with the audience. They can always go back to their childish ways. :pinkieshrug:


Well, no they can't, really. Can you imagine it? The feeling of whiplash? The fan arguments about how suddenly everyone's acting like kids?

They've at least got an organic arc going on that they can continue to exploit as long as it doesn't start defying time and space and causality.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:49 am

Headless Horse wrote:
Well, no they can't, really. Can you imagine it? The feeling of whiplash? The fan arguments about how suddenly everyone's acting like kids?

They've at least got an organic arc going on that they can continue to exploit as long as it doesn't start defying time and space and causality.



But isn't defying Time & Space what makes fiction so fun!?

Or is my inner Doctor Who fan acting up where he shouldn't. XD


Anywho I feel the show has a good amount of life left in it, and 1 more season or 7 more I'm on the train till the end of the line. :party:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:03 pm

Yeah, I'll be on the pony train till the end as well. Whether it's 1 more season or 10 more, I'll still be chugging along on it! :)
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:26 pm

Headless Horse wrote:They've at least got an organic arc going on that they can continue to exploit as long as it doesn't start defying time and space and causality.


And then reboot! :party: Everyone infantile again, but this time computer generated. :sweetiebot:

NOTE: comment is more ambivalent than emoticons and exclamation point indicate.

EDIT: Oh, and to account for the post-social media mentality of the incoming target audience, each episode will be five minutes long.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:57 pm

Eh, I think they've learned from FIM in a way that they can't just throw garbage at the audience.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:36 pm

I want this soo bad!!! Damn u Shapeways!!! :awesomedash: :twonk:

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:51 pm

Well, it's only $50. No need to complain.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:03 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Eh, I think they've learned from FIM in a way that they can't just throw garbage at the audience.


Is that what they've learned, though?

I think they've learned that if they put in serious effort, they can earn a disproportionate response, though perhaps not from the audience they were expecting, or the most lucrative.

I don't necessarily think they've learned that the serious effort they put in on FiM nets them better enough results in terms of toy sales as to justify doing it on a sustained basis. Or put another way, I don't know that they've learned that they "can't just throw garbage at the audience". Garbage gets the job done, for some definition of "done".
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:20 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Well, it's only $50. No need to complain.



The small one. The medium one is $120 & the large one in almost $1000!

If only I was Donald Trump, then I'd buy all 3!


@Headless: Even if Hasbro hasn't learned any long term lessons, they are at least smart enough to give the show runners the freedom to make a genuinly good & enjoyable product.

Edit: Upcomung MLP knock-off Filly Funtasia has a new trailer.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:55 pm

What I meant by that was that we probably wouldn't get a Newborn Cuties or anything soon. They know now that they have to put some effort into things in order for it to succeed.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:29 pm

Well, that's my point. What's the criteria for "succeed"? They probably sold quite a healthy number of Newborn Cuties toys, and by that metric those cheapass little Flash shorts were probably highly successful marketing tools.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:47 pm

Well, you can make money any ways but putting out a higher quality product gets more people interested in it and thus, increases income.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:51 pm

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Edit: Upcomung MLP knock-off Filly Funtasia has a new trailer.



LOL there's people on the EqD article about it pretty much saying how dare Hasbro let them make that knockoff while C&D'ing MLP fan works. :v:

I'll check it out when it comes on then make my decision about it.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:52 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:I want this soo bad!!! Damn u Shapeways!!! :awesomedash: :twonk:

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This really does look awesome. Love that pose.
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