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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:35 pm

He looked around at his fellow soldiers. Without the enchanted plate armor, each pony had their respective coats, manes, and eyes. There was no need for superfluous uniformity outside of Equestria other than an intimidation factor. Griffons, as he gathered, were not easily intimidated. It was also the first time Fleethoof had seen the Royal Guard like this. Everypony was somepony unique now, no longer just a uniform face in a sea of copies. It really hit home that every single soul lost today was somepony special.


Intriguingly, this has been teased as semi correct. Need to try to find the post that commented on it though it might have been nuked.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:45 pm

I think the only thing hinting at it in the show is what appears to be an animation error regarding a guard's eye color in The Crystal Empire. It changes from one shot to the next, when he takes off his helmet.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:56 pm

Still, it'd be an easy way for the Staff to explain it away, and it's an explanation I'd be very satisfied with. Maybe there's tons of mares in the guard, but they all take on the mannerisms and appearance of big stallions through magic because other races they fight are more intimidated by such things, even if the Ponies don't necessarily have the same reaction to masculinity.
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:04 pm

One of the animators that worked on the layouts did comment on that Crystal Empire scene. It's an animation error that some of them regard as sorta canon since it does easily explain things. Post seems to be gone though.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:12 pm

ZamuelNow wrote:
Intriguingly, this has been teased as semi correct. Need to try to find the post that commented on it though it might have been nuked.


Oh, I'd like to see this. :amazing:
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:09 pm

The Outlander wrote:Still, it'd be an easy way for the Staff to explain it away, and it's an explanation I'd be very satisfied with. Maybe there's tons of mares in the guard, but they all take on the mannerisms and appearance of big stallions through magic because other races they fight are more intimidated by such things, even if the Ponies don't necessarily have the same reaction to masculinity.


Who would they be fighting, though? Griffons? That's a confusing one, because while male lions are quite a bit larger than lionesses, female eagles are larger than male eagles by a good margin, so it seems to cancel out.

I am now overthinking the gender politics of the Griffin kingdom as it relates to foreign relations. Season 5 can't come fast enough. :rage: :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:11 pm

The Outlander wrote:Still, it'd be an easy way for the Staff to explain it away, and it's an explanation I'd be very satisfied with. Maybe there's tons of mares in the guard, but they all take on the mannerisms and appearance of big stallions through magic because other races they fight are more intimidated by such things, even if the Ponies don't necessarily have the same reaction to masculinity.


Given that Equestria is ruled by two godlike beings that can control heavenly bodies, I don't think Equestria's enemies really see mares as weak.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:23 pm

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Given that Equestria is ruled by two godlike beings that can control heavenly bodies, I don't think Equestria's enemies really see mares as weak.

I'm still surprised that the show has never brought this up, even as a joke. The fact that the Equestrians control the sun must absolutely dominate the world's international affairs. How can any of the other nations bargain against that in deals with Equestria? The best I can guess is that, akin to a nuclear winter, starving another nation of sunlight would cause so much disharmony and hate that the windigoes would return and freeze the entire planet solid.
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Postby AlliterativeAxolotl (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:31 pm

It would be hilarious if there's more than one sun/moon, and every big realm sort of got their own arrangement how to deal with their respective night and day :gotcha:

:-I According to scripture, the griffons live in a realm of mountains and ice. Their days are short, mostly because an enormous wolf eats the sun all the time, and it can never get enough. So once a year the griffons slay the wolf and get their sun back, so they have weeks upon weeks of summer! Then the wolf comes back and everything begins anew.

:-D That was a very nice fairytale!

:awesomedash: Yeah, pretty cool!

:-/ I was reading from a scientific magazine!

:-I The griffons have discovered how to get 12 % more sunlight every year! Hooray for science and giant dog whistles!
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:39 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I'm still surprised that the show has never brought this up, even as a joke. The fact that the Equestrians control the sun must absolutely dominate the world's international affairs. How can any of the other nations bargain against that in deals with Equestria?


I wonder how dragons fit into this. While Garble and the rest of the teen dragons aren't rocket scientists or anything, Garble read one of Spike's letters and was utterly unimpressed with him being friends with a "pretty pony princess". This would mean that either there's some places that don't know the details or they have their own backup plans for sun control. I've always had the headcanon that the reason why Twilight can't send letters is because it's not pony magic and instead some variant of fire magic.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:47 pm

Celestia would never use the Sun and Moon and bargaining chips. For one, it simply isn't an option, since it hurts her own ponies as much as it would hurt others, and two, it's needlessly cruel. Now Luna, on the other hand... :moonie:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:47 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I'm still surprised that the show has never brought this up, even as a joke. The fact that the Equestrians control the sun must absolutely dominate the world's international affairs. How can any of the other nations bargain against that in deals with Equestria? The best I can guess is that, akin to a nuclear winter, starving another nation of sunlight would cause so much disharmony and hate that the windigoes would return and freeze the entire planet solid.


This is actually pretty hilarious now that I'm thinking about it. Also, what does "raising" the sun or "lowering" the moon mean when your planet is a sphere? Is it like spinning a wheel, i.e. you give it a good push to get it moving and then it takes care of itself until it needs another push? Is the planet that Equestria sits on even a sphere?

These are legitimate questions.

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Postby Snow Drift (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:41 am

What if ancient unicorns in their hubris broke the mechanism of the heavens, and then had to run the whole thing manually? Who knows? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:42 am

We've seen globes before (in Secret of My Excess, a globe was one of the things Spike took) so we know that Equestria's planet is spherical. It must be a geocentric system, too, since we now know for sure that the sun has to be moved (Twilight's Kingdom) and that it isn't just some hoax by Celestia. The terms "raising" and "lowering" are relative and were likely just adopted by Equestrians for convenience's sake.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:46 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:We've seen globes before (in Secret of My Excess, a globe was one of the things Spike took) so we know that Equestria's planet is spherical. It must be a geocentric system, too, since we now know for sure that the sun has to be moved (Twilight's Kingdom) and that it isn't just some hoax by Celestia. The terms "raising" and "lowering" are relative and were likely just adopted by Equestrians for convenience's sake.


Imagine that Celestia and Luna move the planet and not the sun and the moon itself.

:gotcha: Now imagine a view from orbit of the planet as Twilight was "raising the sun"
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Postby AlliterativeAxolotl (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:53 am

:dwi: We call it Celestial Juggling. And it's easier the more planets you have, paradoxically!
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:02 am

The Doctor wrote:
Imagine that Celestia and Luna move the planet and not the sun and the moon itself.


I can go with this. Celestia gives the planet a push in the morning, and Luna gives it a push in the evening. Given that, I wonder if they're making the seasons happen too?
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:08 am

PaulloDEC wrote:
I can go with this. Celestia gives the planet a push in the morning, and Luna gives it a push in the evening. Given that, I wonder if they're making the seasons happen too?


The ponies themselves make the seasons happen. Remember Winter Wrap-up? There's probably laws in place about when the Seasons need to take place, because if they don't go along in that order then the environment becomes uninhabitable.
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:11 am

The Outlander wrote:The ponies themselves make the seasons happen. Remember Winter Wrap-up?


And Fall Weather Friends.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:12 am

PaulloDEC wrote:
I can go with this. Celestia gives the planet a push in the morning, and Luna gives it a push in the evening. Given that, I wonder if they're making the seasons happen too?


:ponynet: If you want a scientific explanation....

The solar system with the pony homeworld orbits at the most distant edges of a massive black hole. Celestia and Luna are needed to keep the sun and moon in orbit as they would be pulled into the black hole otherwise.

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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 1:20 am

The Outlander wrote:
The ponies themselves make the seasons happen. Remember Winter Wrap-up? There's probably laws in place about when the Seasons need to take place, because if they don't go along in that order then the environment becomes uninhabitable.


ZamuelNow wrote:
And Fall Weather Friends.


Ah, of course. I remembered the weather and forgot the seasons.

I wonder how the other nations deal with the seasons then?

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:ponynet: If you want a scientific explanation....

The solar system with the pony homeworld orbits at the most distant edges of a massive black hole. Celestia and Luna are needed to keep the sun and moon in orbit as they would be pulled into the black hole otherwise.

:twiright:


Ohh, extra peril. I like it.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:09 am

The Outlander wrote:
The ponies themselves make the seasons happen. Remember Winter Wrap-up? There's probably laws in place about when the Seasons need to take place, because if they don't go along in that order then the environment becomes uninhabitable.

In that sense, I'm sure Celestia and Luna still play their part in determining the seasons, by varying the length of the day and night.
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:05 am

Snow Drift wrote:What if ancient unicorns in their hubris broke the mechanism of the heavens, and then had to run the whole thing manually? Who knows? :pinkieshrug:


I'm pretty sure this is the exact plot to The Longest Journey
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:28 am

drunkill wrote:$20,000 bronies. Update the gangtag
https://twitter.com/Psygriffio/status/4 ... 6187771904


Wow. That is a lot of money. :-I
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:29 am

Well, it's all going to children's hospitals so I'm glad they're getting that much.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:43 pm

drunkill wrote:$20,000 bronies. Update the gangtag
https://twitter.com/Psygriffio/status/4 ... 6187771904


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That's around 90% of what I make in a year.
Well I don't think that's going to be topped anytime soon (more like never).
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:49 pm

Wildfire wrote:Well I don't think that's going to be topped anytime soon (more like never).

I don't know. If Bronycon and GalaCon have any charity auctions like this, I think it's likely that some rich person will see what happened at EFNW and resolve to top that.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:54 pm

Yeah, I think there's always a way that can be topped. If they sell the original episode scripts or something, I can see it easily breaking the record.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:55 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Well, it's all going to children's hospitals so I'm glad they're getting that much.


Yeah, that's good, but still wow. Lot of money. :starity:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:21 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Didn't you hear? All artists who work on pony or make pony related works are unicorns! They just hide out in elaborate human suits.


Lyra's just practicing her mansuit poses when she's on the show.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:48 am

What about the people who make pony costumes? Are they unicorns in mansuits in a unicorn suit? :-I
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Postby Corpy (?) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:55 am

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Yeah, that's good, but still wow. Lot of money. :starity:

That was one item for $20,000; all the other items combined came to about an additional $20,000 (the bulk of that from jewelry)
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:50 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:What about the people who make pony costumes? Are they unicorns in mansuits in a unicorn suit? :-I


I would assume so. But wait, what if they wear human costumes over their unicorn suit? That means they'd be unicorns dressed as humans as unicorns as humans and now I have a headache. :gotcha:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Jul 07, 2014 2:14 pm

I was mashing random emotes in Smite and I came upon "You rock" followed by "Woohoo", and giggled. That's my story :v:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 1:24 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:
I would assume so. But wait, what if they wear human costumes over their unicorn suit? That means they'd be unicorns dressed as humans as unicorns as humans and now I have a headache. :gotcha:


Or maybe they don't wear a costume, and the costume is their actual unicorn self. :amazing:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:26 am

...This has gotten very confusing, very fast. :v:
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:08 pm

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:14 pm

If...if that's TRUE...I love this show forever. That is some GENIUS stuff right there! :allears:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue Jul 08, 2014 6:15 pm

AJ's concern with sales becomes a dangerous obesssion that threatens the harmony of Ponyville. :liarjack:
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