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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 2:08 am

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But in America, they go to CN, as evident with the new Transformers cartoon now.


Because of toy deals with Disney, MLP airing on the Disney Channel in Spain and Germany, and MLP having princesses and is mostly female-oriented, it feels like it would be 'perfect' for the Disney Channel :ponder:

I see Hasbro putting Transformers on CN again probably because- well, past Transformer cartoons aired on CN and TF is more boy-oriented ala violence and action so it wouldn't really work on the 'family friendly' Discovery Family network.

Granted, I can see FiM going on either Disney or CN. I just feel the show not only fits the target audience of the Disney Channel but I'd wage that FiM would get more advertisement on TDC than on CN (since they have all these shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Steven Universe, etc.)
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 5:49 am

FiM will never be on the US Disney Channel, at least, not on the main channel itself. That's too much of a vehicle for Disney's own homemade stuff. They don't even run ads on the channel- their "commercial breaks" are promos for other shows and/or thinly-veiled DisneyParks commercials.

It could conceivably go to Disney XD, but never to the mothership Disney Channel itself.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:29 am

Ah, see, DC has ads from all different products here as well as playing non Disney movies sometimes...so, yeah. I guess that makes sense. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:50 am

I wonder how the Disney Channel is about to stay afloat with no ads running. I bet the hub would of loved to know that secret.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:09 am

Sobana wrote:I wonder how the Disney Channel is about to stay afloat with no ads running. I bet the hub would of loved to know that secret.

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If you're going by TV profits, Disney owns Disney Junior and Disney XD which are premium channels and they run ads off third parties on those channels. Also, they own ABC, ESPN, and other networks.
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Postby Venusy (?) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:19 am

Yeah, Disney has deep pockets and a lot of avenues they can go down to monetize all their other content. Guardians of the Galaxy alone made $330million in the US alone on a $170million budget. Transformers: Age of Extinction, on the other hand, made $245million in the US on a $210million budget, and I would imagine Hasbro gets a much smaller share of that profit than Disney do of GOTG, since GOTG was technically all "in-house".

(Age of Extinction seems to beat GOTG going by international figures though, which is weird to me, but oh well).
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Nov 23, 2014 8:49 pm

Venusy wrote:Yeah, Disney has deep pockets and a lot of avenues they can go down to monetize all their other content. Guardians of the Galaxy alone made $330million in the US alone on a $170million budget. Transformers: Age of Extinction, on the other hand, made $245million in the US on a $210million budget, and I would imagine Hasbro gets a much smaller share of that profit than Disney do of GOTG, since GOTG was technically all "in-house".

(Age of Extinction seems to beat GOTG going by international figures though, which is weird to me, but oh well).


The international market, especially China now, is incredible important now. Everyone makes jokes about how it was "dumb" that the cast went to China for no reason, but although it was odd for storytelling, it was an incredible strategic choice. It got the attention of China as "Oh hey, an American film that has an entire scene in China? Wow, gotta see that!"

This is also the reason that Iron Man 3 had that scene exclusive to China. It has become incredibly valuable as a market. Also, there is the other case that superheroes aren't as popular in Asia as they are here (hence part of the reason Marvel is attempting to piggyback off of Attack on Titan in the crossover), but meanwhile giant robots are generally universally accepted everywhere. So many members of the audience went to see for the robot fights, not Transformers. Which leads to why the film was far more successful than the toyline, in one way.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:06 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:The international market, especially China now, is incredible important now. Everyone makes jokes about how it was "dumb" that the cast went to China for no reason, but although it was odd for storytelling, it was an incredible strategic choice. It got the attention of China as "Oh hey, an American film that has an entire scene in China? Wow, gotta see that!"

Skyfall did the same thing as well.

Also, FWIW, Age of Extinction made $300 million more than Guardians of the Galaxy in gross worldwide ticket sales. Hasbro's definitely not hurting from their Transformers movie deals.

Shame the Hub didn't work out as well for them.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:49 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:Also, FWIW, Age of Extinction made $300 million more than Guardians of the Galaxy in gross worldwide ticket sales. Hasbro's definitely not hurting from their Transformers movie deals.


That's different from the toys sold still. Hasbro may not be hurt, but look at all the toy shelves clogged with these figures that aren't selling.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:58 am

I wonder how much they spent to make those toys over how much they made from them? I think it would be best to try to just make enough that will sell over just flooding the market with them. I think that is why there is like more pony merch then transformers right now. But then again I don't generally go looking for transformer toys.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:41 am

Sobana wrote:I wonder how much they spent to make those toys over how much they made from them? I think it would be best to try to just make enough that will sell over just flooding the market with them. I think that is why there is like more pony merch then transformers right now. But then again I don't generally go looking for transformer toys.


There definitely isn't more pony merch than Transformers merch. The new movie alone launched at least 4 seperate lines of toys, in addition to the ongoing Generations figures.

As for how much they spend, I don't know for sure, but it is at most half of the price on shelves. When I went to Hasbro's private store in their HQ, pony dolls were marked to $3, transformers were only $5, and I believe Twilight's Castle set was only $15. So if they can charge it that much, they have to spend less than that to make it.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:09 am

I'm talking about more than just the toys. I see ponies on more things then transformers. I see them on book bags, calendars, trading cards, head phones and I even have a pony cupcake holder. It seems more likely that I'm going to walk into a random store and find something with pony on it then transformers. They seem more diverse which means people must be buying them.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:17 am

It might have to do with quality as well. Many of the MLP goods are really well made and that might reflect its sales.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:39 am

Yeah but I think it as more to do with the characters it is associated with. I didn't have a pressing need to have something hold my cupcakes until I seen ponies on it.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:22 pm

So I just spent some stupid number of hours making an animated avatar, only to find I've gone about 30kb over the allowed filesize.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:25 pm

Maybe you can make it a little bit smaller and use it here? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:33 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Maybe you can make it a little bit smaller and use it here? :pinkieshrug:


I was hoping to keep that glorious 160 x 160, but you're right, I hadn't thought about crunching it dimension-wise. I'll see what looks good :twasnothin:

The offer on the big version stands, though.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:43 pm

You did an execellant job. I didn't know you were so talented.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:48 pm

Glad to see that I could help and it looks really great. :)
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:50 pm

Sobana wrote:You did an execellant job. I didn't know you were so talented.


You're kind, but this was more of a time/patience job than a talent one. The foreground was already a perfect loop, so all I needed to do was mask out the background and replace it.

ROBOT B9 wrote:Glad to see that I could help and it looks really great. :)


Thanks, and cheers for alerting me to an obvious solution! 130 x 130 ain't so bad :)
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:07 pm

You may want to use something different for your title text, seeing as your avatar no longer has everyone in it. :v:
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Postby BeautifulShy (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:27 pm

I think this is the right place for this video.



The official MLP YT channel just posted this video. It is interesting that the upcoming season will go even further with the elements at least according to the announcer guy.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:33 pm

That's actually the second such video that we've gotten (the first was of Twilight Sparkle). We talked about the first one more in this thread.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:34 pm

Well, we know now that they're going to do this for each main character...this is going to be very interesting. I wonder how often they'll be released.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:43 pm

I like those clips. Looking forward to AJ's now. :twasnothin:
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Postby doodlesplat (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:56 pm

I like these clips too :3:

Twilight Sparkle has prevailed time and again, can she handle a new challenge? ... now look at this cheesy playset!

Fluttershy's kindness is very powerful, will it be enough? ... now look at this poor pony stuffed into a box!

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:59 pm

doodlesplat wrote:Fluttershy's kindness is very powerful, will it be enough? ... now look at this poor pony stuffed into a box!

Seriously, that was really sad. It would've been fine if that toy were at least standing up, but it looked so limp stuffed into that box...
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:15 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:I like those clips. Looking forward to AJ's now. :twasnothin:



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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:40 pm

doodlesplat wrote:I like these clips too :3:

Twilight Sparkle has prevailed time and again, can she handle a new challenge? ... now look at this cheesy playset!

Fluttershy's kindness is very powerful, will it be enough? ... now look at this poor pony stuffed into a box!

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It's almost as if My Little Pony is a program that exists to sell toys... :wat:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:54 am

:ponder: I wonder if after that Twilight one, someone at Hasbro marketing was kicking themselves for long overdue Pony home playsets.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:05 am

I thought they did like one big set a season or something?
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:23 am

What was the set for Season 3?
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Postby thatbastardken (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:50 am

hey ponegunes, I been away for ages, what's the latest? :dreamworks:
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:56 am

thatbastardken wrote:hey ponegunes, I been away for ages, what's the latest? :dreamworks:


:ponydrugs: -drought as usual :cheese:

Come back here... in MARCH :pcstare:

Please stay, we like having company around
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:28 am

We just got some interesting teasers for the new season if you haven't seen those before. Also, it's nice to have you back. :)
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:43 am

I wonder if they have enough toys to piddle to make four more commericals.

I'm kinda wondering why would they use a deflated Fluttershy toy Instead of something more appealing like an inflated toy.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:22 pm

It's an S5 tie-in. Fluttershy gets attacked by the Deflater Mouse
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:00 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:We just got some interesting teasers for the new season if you haven't seen those before. Also, it's nice to have you back. :)

And don't forget that announcement about the movie (an actual movie with actual ponies, instead of another EqG thing) in 2017.
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Postby thatbastardken (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:03 pm

I should probably get round to watching the EqG films I guess. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Nov 25, 2014 1:08 pm

thatbastardken wrote:I should probably get round to watching the EqG films I guess. :pinkieshrug:

I thought the first one was worse than any episode of the show. Apparently the second one is better, but I haven't seen it so I can't really say anything about it. If the EqG art style doesn't bother you then go for it, I guess.
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