Equestria Girls 2: RAINBOW ROCKS (shorts + movie, Fall 2014)

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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:51 pm

Wayoshi wrote:So, what, Celestia just banishes "the new generic villains of EqG" ponies to this world now?
Tailspin wrote:Yeah, this is such a lazy set up i'm expecting that they gave about as much effort in this movie as they did in the last one.

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Well considering banishment or imprisionment are Celestias go to punishments it's not a surprise.


Uhm, guys?
I reported that mktoon confirmed it wasn't Celestia who did the banishment, one post above yours. :modesty:

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:54 pm

Hmm, interesting. Perhaps they were banished by their own people then!?
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Postby Ransom (?) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:20 pm

They are changelings born with a rare disorder that leaves them feeding on discord instead of harmonious love. They were banished for being different and they're pretty bitter about it :ponynet:
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Postby Kronos (?) » Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:48 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:They've been confirmed as sirens.


Ah, I've been out of the loop as generally I'm actually not that interested in Equestria Girls 2: Electric Scootaloo, but when I saw the translucent wings on the dolls, then the emotion sapping, and now the trio refering to the previous thing as forms of eating, the possibility they're changelings piqued my curiosity.

That, and the only other creature in the show that fed on emotions were the Wendigoes, but that's from Hearth's Warming and the packaging for the Dazzlings don't look like Disney's Hercules style cloud-ghosts.

Ransom wrote:They are changelings born with a rare disorder that leaves them feeding on discord instead of harmonious love. They were banished for being different and they're pretty bitter about it :ponynet:

:excellent: To say they have exotic tastes in protein is an understatement.
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Postby Minty (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 1:46 am

I rather like these villains. I wouldn't mind seeing Equestria Girls as a new show, probably delete the mane 6/5 (but keep Sunset) so it wouldn't be too much like MLP. Then it could just be rainbow kids fighting monsters.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:24 am

I hope they won't be redeemed, because then to me, they'd nearly be Sunset Shimmer copies. I'd be alright if one of them turns to good, but not all.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:28 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I hope they won't be redeemed, because then to me, they'd nearly be Sunset Shimmer copies. I'd be alright if one of them turns to good, but not all.


I could see Sonata turn good, and the other two banished to Tartarus. :gotcha:
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:06 am

Yea I can see Sonata or Aria turning good in some big 'oh you're not my REAL friends' thing but I doubt all three would get a big happy redemption, a villain team gives writers in these kinda shows wiggle room to give a couple different 'endings' for the baddies.
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Postby Stargazer (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:45 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I hope they won't be redeemed, because then to me, they'd nearly be Sunset Shimmer copies. I'd be alright if one of them turns to good, but not all.

I'm pretty sure they won't. The premises of them being villains are different. Sunset Shimmer basically went a lil cray-cray with jealousy and greed. At the end, Twilight sees she that she is just a lost girl in need of some friendship (and a lesson or two on how to not be a spoiled brat.) These siren/changeling-like creatures have powers based in feeding off of people. They aren't going from goodpone to evilpone. They have most likely always been evilpone.

I guess I can't know that for sure - maybe they got enchanted or something, or maybe their punishment to go along with the banishment was "hey, guess what, you get to be sirens now!" But I just don't think they'll redeem them at the end. They look too cool as villains to be redeemable, anyway :smug:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 3:22 pm

Okay, this looks like it'll be much better than EG1, thusfar. Starting to have some genuine anticipation for this!
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 4:24 pm

Dexanth wrote:Okay, this looks like it'll be much better than EG1, thusfar. Starting to have some genuine anticipation for this!


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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 7:02 pm

Stargazer wrote:I'm pretty sure they won't. The premises of them being villains are different. Sunset Shimmer basically went a lil cray-cray with jealousy and greed. At the end, Twilight sees she that she is just a lost girl in need of some friendship (and a lesson or two on how to not be a spoiled brat.) These siren/changeling-like creatures have powers based in feeding off of people. They aren't going from goodpone to evilpone. They have most likely always been evilpone.

I guess I can't know that for sure - maybe they got enchanted or something, or maybe their punishment to go along with the banishment was "hey, guess what, you get to be sirens now!" But I just don't think they'll redeem them at the end. They look too cool as villains to be redeemable, anyway :smug:


Yeah, that's a good point, they definitely have a widely different motivation than Shimmer, so therefore, their fate can't be the same.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:06 pm

Well, part of what separates MLP from many other toons is villains can be redeemed, so nothing is impossible, but weather they turn good or stay bad, I hope we see more of them after Rainbow Rocks. Maybe as reoccurring villains in Equestria Academy!?
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 2:58 am

Aria Blaze should be redeemed because just look at her she's too stylin to be left in the phantom zone or wherever evil ponies go when earth can't hold them.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:59 am

So, will EG3 have a villain voiced by Pinkie Pie's singing voice?
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:55 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Well, part of what separates MLP from many other toons is villains can be redeemed, so nothing is impossible, but weather they turn good or stay bad, I hope we see more of them after Rainbow Rocks. Maybe as reoccurring villains in Equestria Academy!?

If Equestria Academy turns out to be a real full-fledged series, I assume they're going to need a few "bad students" around, it's not like in Equestria where villains can just come from anywhere; so the Dazzlings could be partially redeemed and stay at the school, while not exactly befriending the Mane 6.

Unless of course, they keep pulling villains out of the portal every day, it's not like Principal Celestia seems to have any problems accepting unknown students with no background at all in her school. :gotcha:

The Doctor wrote:So, will EG3 have a villain voiced by Pinkie Pie's singing voice?

There's speculation that she could be voicing Sonata Dusk, she kinda sounds like Pinkie after all.

We'll have to wait for some staff member to reveal Aria's and Sonata's voice actresses.
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Postby Grue (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:19 am

Ransom wrote:They are changelings born with a rare disorder that leaves them feeding on discord instead of harmonious love. They were banished for being different and they're pretty bitter about it :ponynet:


I like this theory. Because it means Chrysalis is coming back (perhaps even as EQG).

The Doctor wrote:So, will EG3 have a villain voiced by Pinkie Pie's singing voice?


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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:45 am

^ They were confirmed to Not be changelings though, at SDCC:
Are the girls in Rainbow Rocks Changelings?
No, but they do have ties to Equestria.

Will Discord Zecora and Chrysalis Appear in Rainbow Rocks?
They will not. They will be in something later though.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 8:54 pm

I'm curious to see how Discord or Chrysalis could be "transferred" to the human world, since there is no magic. Is Discord just a sociopath, and Chrysalis is a master of disguise? :-I
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Postby Stargazer (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:10 pm

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I'm curious to see how Discord or Chrysalis could be "transferred" to the human world, since there is no magic. Is Discord just a sociopath, and Chrysalis is a master of disguise? :-I

Eh, sociopaths have a tendency towards hyper-organization, as well as appearing rather charming irl. Discord can be charming, but it's seen that he feels some sort of shame, and seems to want companionship of some kind. So I doubt his human self would be sociopathic. If he were in an EQG movie, he'd probably just start The Great Food Fight of Canterlot High and have it disrupt literally everyone's lives, causing the Mane6 much chagrin.

But isn't there some sort of magic in the human world? I think Chrysalis can remain a shapeshifter, and Discord a master of chaos. I mean, what else are those Dazzlings using to feed on in the previews? (I'm probably wrong, because I don't really know anything about these movies :v:)
Aaaand now I wanna go look up some human Discord art :-/ :excellent:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:25 pm

Yeah, the latest preview kind of the confirmed, the human world had magic now becuse of the release of the elements duerint the battle with sunset shimmer.

And personally I see the human world Chrysalis being a teacher, maybe biology.

As for Discord, no idea.
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Postby Ransom (?) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:29 am

I imagined Discord a the school janitor. Just because. Also, he's not a version of Discord. He is Discord, visiting other universes.
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:34 am

I don't care if Celestia is the principal, this is still the way it should be:

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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:56 am

Ransom wrote:I imagined Discord a the school janitor. Just because. Also, he's not a version of Discord. He is Discord, visiting other universes.


I like this. :amazing:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 2:41 am

By Pete and Pete logic, lets imagine that Discord is Mr. Tastee
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Postby ponygals (?) » Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:23 pm

I wonder why some of the theaters are only showing the movie once if not twice at the most while others are showing it from September 27th through October 12th.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:57 am

Second preview clip from the Film staring Sunset & the rest of the human cast.

Reformed sunset is kind of adorable if you ask me. :allears:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:08 am

I still think it's kinda neat how Nicole Oliver has chosen to voice Principal Celestia as a thoroughly different character from Princess Celestia. She's got her own accent and timbre and delivery, doesn't sound anywhere near as formal or motherly, and has kind of a husky take-no-shit quality to her. Everyone else is basically doing the same voice as in FiM, but Celestia is something else entirely.
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Postby ponygals (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:17 am

I wonder when Twilight will make an appearance in the film, will she only be in it, for the last half hour, or be in it for most of the film or only half of it etc.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:26 am

Headless Horse wrote:I still think it's kinda neat how Nicole Oliver has chosen to voice Principal Celestia as a thoroughly different character from Princess Celestia. She's got her own accent and timbre and delivery, doesn't sound anywhere near as formal or motherly, and has kind of a husky take-no-shit quality to her. Everyone else is basically doing the same voice as in FiM, but Celestia is something else entirely.


My theory is that she and Luna seem a bit more detached after having met their Pony counterparts.

After meeting counterparts from an Alternate Dimension, and finding out that they are Princesses who rule and entire Kingdom, and have magical abilities that give them domain over the heavens...

...collecting a pension after dealing with High Schoolers for 20 years must seem like a kick in the teeth.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:31 am

Yea. One thing that bothers me though. Even for an EQG character, Principle Celestia's legs are waay too long here compared to her torso IMO. It's kind of disturbing. :starity:
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Edit: @pomygals: Twilight will be in the film. Sunset summons her back *somehow* to help the group beat the Dazzlings*
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:43 am

:pcstare: Well, Luna, we're here. What strange things will this universe offer.

:speakest: Perhaps another evil stallion for you to fall head over heels over.

:pcstare: That only happened once...

Image Who, or what are you?

:pcstare: Greetings, I am PrincessCelestia, of the land of Equestria.

Image I am Vice Principal Luna, and this is my sister, Principal Celestia.

:speakest: What a coincidence. Is this your realm?

Image This is a school, we run it.

:pcstare: How lovely. I also run a school in my spare time.

Image Spare time? What do you normally do?

:speakest: My Sister and I rule over the land of Equestria. Tasked with the safety and defense of the realm, and the raising of the Sun and Moon. What do you two do?

Image ...

Image I read the morning announcements and dole out discipline.

:gotcha: Well, you two have a very lovely school here.

:speakest: May we see the royal treasury, and witness the riches of this land?

Image We have a petty cash box and a coffee maker...

:pcstare: ...

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:unenthused: ...

Image May we visit your realm?

:areyousure: um... no.

:speakest: Yes, the mirror works only one way.

Image But how will you two get back?

:gotcha: Lovely meeting you two.

:dwi: ..run...
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Postby The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:43 am

Headless Horse wrote:I still think it's kinda neat how Nicole Oliver has chosen to voice Principal Celestia as a thoroughly different character from Princess Celestia. She's got her own accent and timbre and delivery, doesn't sound anywhere near as formal or motherly, and has kind of a husky take-no-shit quality to her. Everyone else is basically doing the same voice as in FiM, but Celestia is something else entirely.


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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:12 am

You know, if the ending of EqG1 had actually been decent in attempting to give SS character development, or even a character, I maybe would kinda like what Meghan is trying to do here in EqG2. But I can only just laugh right now.

Also hey, at least the wooden principals weren't so wooden in this scene. Kinda.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 5:28 am

I am still very confused about just how many grades this high school encompasses.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:56 am

I'm very happy that they are addressing Sunset's redemption so thoroughly, unlike Princess Luna's, her parallel, who was all but forgotten until much later.
To be honest, as far as this movie is concerned, I'm more interested in her and the villains than I am in the Mane 6.
Also, this clip makes me hopeful that we get a CMC (and possibly Diamond Tiara + Silver Spoon) song as well. :allears:

...but seriously, those Principals designs could use an overhaul. :v:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:58 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:I am still very confused about just how many grades this high school encompasses.



It's the Archie Andrews effect. No matter how much time passes, the CMC are still freshmen and the mane six are still Juniors/seniors. Kind of like how Bart Simpson is still in Elementary school after all this time.

:gotcha: As the old song goes high school never ends.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:24 pm

I think the contention is that the CMC aren't old enough to be Freshman. They look more 11-12.

Also Principal Celestia/Luna are obviously Mirror Clones of Celestia/Luna.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:34 pm

Dexanth wrote:I think the contention is that the CMC aren't old enough to be Freshman. They look more 11-12.

Also Principal Celestia/Luna are obviously Mirror Clones of Celestia/Luna.



Well perhaps they're so smart they skipped a couple of grades. :v:


I know Meghan mentioned the CMC being freshman before.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:58 am

It's an ANT Farm situation clearly:

Sweetie Belle: Singing prodigy

Scootaloo: Extreme sports prodigy

Apple Bloom: ....Apple prodigy?
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