Equestria Girls 2: RAINBOW ROCKS (shorts + movie, Fall 2014)

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Equestria Girls 2: RAINBOW ROCKS (shorts + movie, Fall 2014)

Postby ixnay (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:57 pm

A 240-page book with a release date of April 8, 2014 has shown up on Amazon. Not really any other details than the title at this time.

So here's a thread to discuss it in!
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:59 pm

My guess is it'll be about Sunset Working towards redemption and getting back together with Flash Sentry.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:07 pm

Noooooooooooooo :-/ :unenthused: :liarjack:

Well, as long as it stays a book... I can ignore it, I guess. :-I
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:22 pm

I bet it's the printed edition of the movie sequel, just like they did for the first one.
I'm happy and not surprised at all, considering the success of the new IP, but I didn't expect it to be released so early, even before the end of Season 4.
Here's hoping it becomes a bi-annual movie series. :excite:

Also, I'd say there are pretty good chances this will tie in with the "Rainbow Rocks" toyline; I'd love myself some Rock pony songs. :awesomedash:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:25 pm

Oh god no, it better not be another movie, no no no. Enough.
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Postby Discord (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:07 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Oh god no, it better not be another movie, no no no. Enough.


I'm with this. It doesn't really make a lot of sense either, considering they did a full 26-episode season this year. Would they really be able to fit in another movie? Unless they push that off to another studio...
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:11 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Oh god no, it better not be another movie, no no no. Enough.



Hey now. It could be good. Specially if it focuses more on character development over high school antics this time around. And might help concrete the spin-off as it's own thing as opposed to an awkward generic mirror of the mane I.P.

Anything that can help ponies little sister grow into its own is good in my book.

Just have to wait & see.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:24 pm

It's a murder mystery where they find out what happened to the REAL Sunset Shimmers. :ponynet:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:47 pm

If there were to be another movie, I think we would have heard about it by now. After all, releasing the book before the movie would be silly, and the production of FiM (and EqG) is leaky enough to where we surely would've seen something if another movie were in the works right now.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:05 pm

^ Well, "no leaks = no movie" is a bit of a stretch, especially if you think about what kind of leaks we've had for the first movie:

- TopDraw Production page, which does not include MLP information anymore.
- Equestria Girls Trademark, which doesn't need to be registered again (if we're not counting Rainbow Rocks™ as a leak).
- Concept Art pictures, which I'd expect them to not distribute so eagerly after what happened last time (we haven't had a single Season 4 picture leaked so much in advance, for instance).

Besides, even if this book does end up being its own thing, the huge success of the first movie pretty much guarantees at least one sequel.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:13 pm

ilcane87 wrote:Besides, even if this book does end up being its own thing, the huge success of the first movie pretty much guarantees at least one sequel.

Not necessarily. Unlike FiM, EqG isn't propping up the Hub. The movie was such an advertising-driven effort that I don't think Hasbro would green-light another one just because they think DHX could make something good. If they think another movie would sell more toys, they'll do it then.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:17 pm

^ I admit I have no idea how the toy sales went, but if you check out the latest Hasbro Investor conference, they brought up Equestria Girls time and time again as an exemplary IP execution.

I remember they anticipated the returns to amount to something like 16 times the initial investment, which is a huge "Make More!" flag from a business standpoint.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:34 pm

$5 says it's "Equestria Girls: The Junior Novelization" :ohboy:


I remember when my elementary school's book fair came and I found "Jurassic Park: The Junior Novelization"


It's the book
that's based on a movie
that's based on a book!

80 pages :v:


e: I missed the "2" in the title :pinkieshrug:
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Postby DaBatGuy (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:42 pm

Despite the mediocre quality of the first movie I wouldn't mind a sequel if the story was completely in the human world with no ties to the FiM continuity.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:52 pm

DaBatGuy wrote:Despite the mediocre quality of the first movie I wouldn't mind a sequel if the story was completely in the human world with no ties to the FiM continuity.

If this were the case, I wouldn't mind it existing, but I'd also have no desire to watch it. I guess it'd be better that way.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:01 am

Kinda saw it coming if you watched the Behind the Scenes of the movie (producers/Hasbro execs being all 'We're gonna run FiM into the ground" :allright: )

Now im just waiting for the reveal of the movie :smirk:
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Postby Rarietty (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:11 am

To be honest, EqG had a sequel hook to begin with. The (hu)mane 5 looking all depressed and the ominous music after Twilight returned to Equestria really left the impression to me that Hasbro isn't finished with this property at all. Not to mention the idea that Sunset is still stuck in high school world and now has to learn from her mistakes.

So, yeah, no surprise. Hasbro still wants to sell human dolls. Of course they'd have to continue EqG in some way or form, whether as books, comics, movies, a show, whatever, or else the target audience won't care.

I don't mind this, just as long as Equestria and the human world stay seperate. The only thing I'd really want to see from this would be more Sunset development, because that alone (if done well) would probably fix most of my problems with the first movie.

Also, I hope that they don't end up using EqG as an excuse to give any of the main characters needless boyfriends. That's my only concern. :roll:
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:23 am

A shame that a FiM movie seems unlikely in the foreseeable future... but this may sound hypocritical since I did not like EqG... I did like some of the ideas and I actually am interested where they can take it. THe problem atm with FiM that I possibly see is that we've seen that universe for quite some time already. With EqG, there's an entire universe that mostly hasnt been explored yet and it hinted at some possibly 'new' challenges and stories.

I'd like to see less recycled characters and instead, new characters or at least 'redesigned' characters (Babs being older ala the EqG comic sounds interesting. Shoving in Ms. Harshwinny as a teacher just because she happens to be wearing something close to a teacher kinda irked me.). There's also the fact that EqG2 probably will focus on Twilight... again. :-/ Because Twilight is Protagonist and having Rainbow, AJ, or even a new character as the Protagonist would just be crazy because why experiment?
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At the end of the day, one of EqG's biggest problems was that it just didnt execute most of its ideas well. Will EqG2 solve those problems or continue and throw interesting concepts but with no bite? I guess we'll see

EDIT: Oh, and Hasbro probably made some "Cyyyash" off the DVD, Blu-Ray, and ticket sales for a low budget made for TV special... so unless you had creative integrity (arf arf) then of course this was going to happen :v:
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Postby Discord (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:27 am

Rarietty wrote:I don't mind this, just as long as Equestria and the human world stay seperate. The only thing I'd really want to see from this would be more Sunset development, because that alone (if done well) would probably fix most of my problems with the first movie.

Also, I hope that they don't end up using EqG as an excuse to give any of the main characters needless boyfriends. That's my only concern. :roll:


That's kind of the thing that seems likely to happen though. I might be happy with this if Flash Sentry was guaranteed to be pushed off a cliff. :-I (Or put on the bus...or stuffed in a refrigerator...pick your trope).

But lord knows Hasbro would probably want to try to conform toward the norm of competition, and romance would have to play a part. And I don't doubt it would probably suck as much as it did in EqG.

(Though if you mean EqG will see FiM characters get that, I doubt they're going to crossover like that again. If this actually happens, the worlds will probably remain separate from this point on).
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Postby agradify (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:26 am

Discord wrote:That's kind of the thing that seems likely to happen though. I might be happy with this if Flash Sentry was guaranteed to be pushed off a cliff. :-I (Or put on the bus...or stuffed in a refrigerator...pick your trope).

I'd be happy only if Flash was stuffed in a fridge at the back of a bus that was hurtling off of a cliff, personally.

I'm just going to ignore the book, nothing good has come out of EqG yet and I don't see them putting the effort into changing that fact.
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Postby Somnambula (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:34 am

I probably won't end up reading or paying much attention to a EQG book. It's existence doesn't ruffle my feathers, as long as they are not devoting any resources to another movie.

The crux of my indifference basically lies with the fact that I'm not interested in the EQG universe, even if it were further explored. :pinkieshrug: Are we going see Rainbow Dash caught up in soccer team drama? Find out how Pinkie Pie reacts to her overly stern homeroom teacher? See Rarity do battle with the Canterlot high dress code? The high school/anthroverse setting just doesn't lend itself to a lot of interesting material.

Additionally, though the anthro-characters still have the same basic personality structures, I find them less interesting to watch when they're taken out of the fantastical pony setting. Rainbow Dash trying out for the Wonderbolts? Epic and interesting. Trying out for the lacrosse team? I'll sit this one out.
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Postby Grue (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:32 am

This pleases Applejack. Hopefully there's a movie, or at least some webisodes.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 5:17 am

So wait, we're all still living in some crazy reality where EqG actually came out, people watched it, and the world didn't end right? There was so much raw emotion surrounding that thing's release, I still marvel that we made it through. It's still surreal when I do the simplest things relating to it, like remembering a scene or thinking about a catchy song. I dunno, it's just one of the most baffling things that I've ever seen happen, even more so than the Devil May Cry reboot and Metroid: Other M.
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Postby DaBatGuy (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:20 am

I feel that a lot EqG's success was influenced by the confusion and desperation of the fandom post-MMC. Unless S4 ends with another rushed change in status quo that first gets properly addressed in EqG 2 instead of S5 I doubt another movie will have the same level of interest.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:33 am

DaBatGuy wrote:I feel that a lot EqG's success was influenced by the confusion and desperation of the fandom post-MMC. Unless S4 ends with another rushed change in status quo that first gets properly addressed in EqG 2 instead of S5 I doubt another movie will have the same level of interest.


Eh, i would assume the success came from the home media sales and high reviews by parents (plus theatrical showings and i wonder how many fans went to see it versus families/kids did)
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Postby DaBatGuy (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:41 am

I should have specified that I meant successful among the adult fans. An EqG 2 would probably get enough kids and parents interested to be profitable but without most bronies starving for content it wouldn't outsell or even match the first.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:04 am

DaBatGuy wrote:I should have specified that I meant successful among the adult fans. An EqG 2 would probably get enough kids and parents interested to be profitable but without most bronies starving for content it wouldn't outsell or even match the first.
I don't know about that, last time I checked, most Bronies seemed to have liked the first movie. :pinkieshrug:

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(of course that's assuming it's mostly Bronies who vote on Equestria Daily polls, which is probably a stretch)

Nonetheless, are Bronies really that big a factor in sales?
I'm not that informed about it, but it always seemed to me that they're a minority compared to the actual target audience, especially when it comes to sales, considering all episodes are freely available on the internet, and most adults don't buy toys.
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:29 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Hey now. It could be good. Specially if it focuses more on character development over high school antics this time around. And might help concrete the spin-off as it's own thing as opposed to an awkward generic mirror of the mane I.P.

Anything that can help ponies little sister grow into its own is good in my book.

Just have to wait & see.


This. I feel that despite its flaws, EG's biggest flaw was not "it exists" but rather that it didn't do enough with the concept or enough of its own worldbuilding. Hopefully a book instead of animation will do better at fleshing things out and actually give it interesting wrinkles by design rather than by accident. Plus, Sunset Shimmer needs some kind of closure.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:26 pm

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I think 26 episodes couldn't possibly mean another movie, I really really hope not.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:31 pm

Obviously they outsourced animation for the second movie to Korea so they could focus more on the Animation for S4. :v:
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:40 pm

Well, at the latest Investor Conference they mentioned plans to increase investments in their 3 core brands (Transformers, MLP, LPS), so I wouldn't be surprised if we kept getting 26 episodes and a movie every year. :pinkietoot:
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Postby Grue (?) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:55 pm

I was about to post this.

All according to keikaku. :excellent:
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:23 pm

Maybe Ingram is composing the songs for the EqG2 AUDIOBOOK :-I

Ever thought of that? :cheese:

Strange he called it EqG 1. Either that was a sign for things to come or just Ingram's way of being needlessly specific but im going with the former.
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Postby Discord (?) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:21 pm

-sigh-

Why can't we just get a full length pony movie that DOESN'T take place in high school. :fluttersmith:

Like I'm seriously ticked that THIS is what is getting the movie call over an epic adventure in Equestria or 60 minutes of ponies talking on trains. :rainbert:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:30 pm

Discord wrote:Why can't we just get a full length pony movie that DOESN'T take place in high school. :fluttersmith:


Because the media is obsessed with High School and thinks it's the only thing kids that age care about.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:01 am

Hey, what if this was an engineered disaster for the greater good of FiM :smirk:

Yahtzee wrote an interesting articleabout why maybe the Star Wars prequels made the originals better in the eyes of fans.

Would Star Wars still have the high profile it has, if the prequels (and indeed the additions made to the remastered originals) had been mediocre, or merely alright, rather than fucking horrible?


Maybe we should really thank our Hasbro overlords for once :-I
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Postby Kamek (?) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 12:24 am

goddammit

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goddammit

Why won't this thing just die already :gonkity:

Discord wrote:-sigh-

Why can't we just get a full length pony movie that DOESN'T take place in high school. :fluttersmith:

Like I'm seriously ticked that THIS is what is getting the movie call over an epic adventure in Equestria or 60 minutes of ponies talking on trains. :rainbert:


This so much. I was hoping that after the first EqG movie that maybe we had a shot at getting a REAL pony movie, with EqG being done and buried. But it keeps popping back up like a weed that refuses to die. Equestria Girls gets a movie. Equestria Girls gets an annual. And now Equestria Girls (possibly) gets ANOTHER movie?

Well on the plus side we still have at least one whole season of regular pony to go. I'll probably just keep ignoring this and pretending it doesn't exist.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 4:37 am

Though, counterpoint, Equestria Girls ONLY got an annual, and FiM has gotten way way waaay more comic time.
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Postby Grue (?) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:11 am

Exactly, 3 episodes worth of material + one comic book is nothing compared to what the regular ponies are getting (26 new episodes and 2 monthly comic series). I can't believe people are complaining. It's as if the world needs even more pony episodes with Daring Don't level writing. :-/
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:22 am

Ponies still needs a movie, though. The ep1+2 would have made a good one, and Daring Do would actually have been an okay offshoot movie plot. But no, all we get is EqG so far.
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