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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 4:40 pm

If she leaves...


She's one of the people who came at the beginning and i can see about four years working on ponies being a bit 'tiring' (?). And she probably would like to work on other projects and not just ponies all the time
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Postby EquestriaGuy (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 8:44 pm

https://twitter.com/TheRealSibsy/statuses/335484971747794944

She's not going anywhere, and I'd like to add my speculation that she's unofficially confirmed S5 by the way she worded her comment. She seems to be under the impression that MLP is still a long term job, and given that she has 1 MAYBE 2 boards left for S4, she can't also think that the show is ending for her in 6-12 weeks.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:05 pm

you know in regard to future seasons, I kind of wonder if alternating between 26 & 13 episode seasons will become a thing, that is to say even numbered seasons will be 26 eps, then odd numbered seasons 13 eps. Call me crazy, but I could see that happening. If Hasbro/HUB does want this to be their Spongebob and have it around for the long run.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:14 pm

The 13 episode S3 was for the magic 65. I don't see a reason they wouldn't do full 26s from hereon out, unless they needed time for like a movie.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:16 pm

Dexanth wrote:The 13 episode S3 was for the magic 65. I don't see a reason they wouldn't do full 26s from hereon out, unless they needed time for like a movie.


Oh I know, just wondering if it might be easier on the writers & team overall if they continue to alternate between 26 & 13 episode seasons. But yes keeping 26 ep seasons from now on is probably more realisitic.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:25 pm

They can compromise and do 20-episode seasons from now on. Nowadays that's the standard for cable cartoons.

So what do you think the 100th episode will be like? :iamapony:
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:27 pm

Mr. Big wrote:They can compromise and do 20-episode seasons from now on. Nowadays that's the standard for cable cartoons.

So what do you think the 100th episode will be like? :iamapony:



Clip show galore :munch:
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Postby Grue (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:33 pm

Mr. Big wrote:So what do you think the 100th episode will be like? :iamapony:


Human in Equestria fanfic adaptation. Live action.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 9:51 pm

Mr. Big wrote:They can compromise and do 20-episode seasons from now on. Nowadays that's the standard for cable cartoons.

So what do you think the 100th episode will be like? :iamapony:



hour long episode, mix of an original story and flash-backs/clipshow.

Or super mega pony extravaganza where all the ponies in Equestria team-up to take down a G4 version of Tyrak.
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 10:00 pm

*Sigh* I want the show to end at season 4. :fluttersmith:

I loved all 3 seasons so far, and I know 4 will be the high water mark. best to close on the upswing and revitalize the franchise with a new series later.

But heck, if it just keeps going then the consolation prize will be ever more bizarre memes as the show distorts beyond recognition. :horse:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 10:07 pm

As others pointed out, the Simpsons was still watchable until season 8 or so. Pony can go on until then.

And, deep down, I want to see the show running forever, because I wanna see how far it will go downhill (Equestria Girls don't count, since it's a separate thing)
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Postby Jupiter (?) » Fri May 17, 2013 11:38 pm

SIX SEASONS AND A (good) MOVIE!
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 2:44 am

Mr. Big wrote:
And, deep down, I want to see the show running forever, because I wanna see how far it will go downhill (Equestria Girls don't count, since it's a separate thing)


You're a mean man, and I hope the fate of all true artists befalls you. :-P
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 2:57 am

Mr. Big wrote:They can compromise and do 20-episode seasons from now on. Nowadays that's the standard for cable cartoons.

So what do you think the 100th episode will be like? :iamapony:



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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 2:59 am

Passport Clean wrote:
You're a mean man, and I hope the fate of all true artists befalls you. :-P



So you wish him happiness & good health right?

Seriously dood, anything else and your just being rude. :-/


As for me, I like shows I like to last, South Park has had 15 seasons 14 of those were good, King Of The Hill had 12 solid seasons, so lord knows pony can last a long time & still be good.

But ideally I guess I would say 6-8 seasons and a TV finale movie. But weather we just get one more season or twelve more, i'm gonna enjoy every dang minute!

As for something pony releated lasting forever, i'm looking for the comic for that, if Sonic Comics can last 20+ Years, so can pony comics. :twiright: *knockonwood*
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 3:10 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote: So you wish him happiness & good health right?

Seriously dood, anything else and your just being rude. :-/


:byodood:

What the... that's, like, twice in two days you've called me rude! The first time I was complimenting your ability to make a case! And now... doesn't a "tongue sticking out" smilie clearly mean "joking" anymore!? Were the rules of the internet re-arranged while I was teaching!? Someone please send me the memo next time!
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 3:12 am

Passport Clean wrote:
:byodood:

What the... that's, like, twice in two days you've called me rude! The first time I was complimenting your ability to make a case! And now... doesn't a "tongue sticking out" smilie clearly mean "joking" anymore!? Were the rules of the internet re-arranged while I was teaching!? Someone please send me the memo next time!



Sorry, i'm only at half a tank right now. :v: And a kind of on a post-movie hype benge....stupid movies why u make me hyper after I go to you!? XD

But ahh yeah..... sorry about that, totally my bad. :-I

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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 3:27 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:
Forgivezes?


Of course!
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 3:35 am

AppleCobbler44 wrote:She's one of the people who came at the beginning and i can see about four years working on ponies being a bit 'tiring' (?). And she probably would like to work on other projects and not just ponies all the time
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 3:37 am

The storyboard artists for "Swarm of the Century" are Tom Sales and Lih Liau.

I knew my Pony credits list can come in handy! :vogue:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 3:44 am

Was that the only episode they worked on or something? There's an awful lot of very unique faces in that one.

Same goes for Cutie Mark Chronicles. In fact, I think those two episodes kind of stand out among the rest of S1 as having a lot of signature "style" frames that don't show up anywhere else in the show.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:27 am

Headless Horse wrote:Was that the only episode they worked on or something? There's an awful lot of very unique faces in that one.

Actually, no. Tom Sales worked on 17 episodes:

Friendship is Magic, Parts 1 and 2
Griffon the Brush-Off
Swarm of the Century
Feeling Pinkie Keen
Green Isn't Your Color
Party of One
The Return of Harmony, Part 1
The Cutie Pox
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A Friend in Deed
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A Canterlot Wedding, Parts 1 and 2
The Crystal Empire, Part 1
Wonderbolts Academy
Magical Mystery Cure

Lih Liau worked on five:

Swarm of the Century
Over a Barrel
The Best Night Ever
Magic Duel
Keep Calm and Flutter On

(left the show during season 2, returned for season 3)

That said, there have been several who only worked on one episode and never again:

Andy Bartlett ("Fall Weather Friends")
Scott Underwood ("Feeling Pinkie Keen")
Scott Jeralds ("The Show Stoppers")
David Dick ("Secret of My Excess")

In addition, series director Jim Miller only boarded on one episode: The Cutie Mark Chronicles.

Scott Jeralds never even received screen credit on the show. Kevin Schmid is another, even though he worked on two episodes ("The Ticket Master" and "Boast Busters")
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat May 18, 2013 4:32 am

Weird. Must be unrelated to storyboarding then.
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Postby Shadowman (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 8:32 am

Tell me.... it's true that there is a risk that S4 and S5 are going to be cancelled in full production because death menaces that DHX's members got for the Equestria Girls movie?
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 8:36 am

^^

... Quoi? :rariwhat:

I mean, yeah i heard some people went on twitter and might've directly blamed the DHX members but death threats?

In any case, i dont think most of the DHX members would leave. Sure they'd be upset but Hasbro would probably find replacements and continue FiM if some did leave.

I know Sibsy apparently said on a livestream that she might leave after S4 tho she probably is just interested in other projects (she started working on FiM from the start 3-4 years ago) or tired of FiM.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 10:21 am

Those death threats are just dumb people doing stupid stuff, I doubt anyone at DHX takes them seriously.

Edit: Should clarify I haven't seen what's actually been said, just going by what I've heard.
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Postby Grue (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 11:07 am

AppleCobbler44 wrote:I know Sibsy apparently said on a livestream that she might leave after S4 tho she probably is just interested in other projects (she started working on FiM from the start 3-4 years ago) or tired of FiM.


Sibsy's been saying she's going to leave at some point since season 2 at least. But I guess pony pays well.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 12:51 pm

I don't think a show would be cancled because of a small group of people being stupid, believe it or not, its sadly commonplace these days for people to get threats from stupid fans, Dan Slott got lots of negative feedback & death threats because of ASM #700 Superior Spider-Man, i've even heard some radicals have threatened the Family Guy & South Park peeps over the years.

People are sadly stupid at times, the internet arguably makes them more so, its a sad truth that pointlessly threatening people & companies happens over really really stupid things all the time these days, almost makes you wish the internet didn't exist at times.
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Postby DaBatGuy (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 2:37 pm

That's not an accurate comparison as those guys are making content specifically for a large teen to adult male audience with the intention of being offensive, the vocal seething hatred and fanboy rage was something they expected to deal with. The DHX staff however were virtually unknown to most people before FiM and never expected to deal with so much hate from a show about cute ponies and friendship.

I'm sure that by now the staff are more thick-skinned and are aware that those threats are as empty as Sombra's script. However it must be rather annoying and frustrating to cope with a fandom that seems to implode upon itself every other month.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 2:47 pm

Well either way i'm sure they are professional enough to ignore the crazies. Loons are everywhere on the net sadly, not much anyone can do about it.

Although again to some degree its the staffs own fault for getting so involved with the fanbase online, honestly might be better for their mental health if they stepped back a bit and only had to deal with fans at cons.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:05 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Although again to some degree its the staffs own fault for getting so involved with the fanbase online, honestly might be better for their mental health if they stepped back a bit and only had to deal with fans at cons.

It's their fault for getting death threats? Sure, they can decide how much or how little they want to interact with the fans, but they don't have any control over what the fans say or do.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon May 20, 2013 3:07 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:It's their fault for getting death threats? Sure, they can decide how much or how little they want to interact with the fans, but they don't have any control over what the fans say or do.


Not what I mean at all, I merely was implying that compared to other's in their field they are more involved with the fan base and thus for better or worse at times have to put up with more guff.

The idiots who threaten them are the only ones to blame for death threats.
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Postby Nissl (?) » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:08 am

Interesting Morrow tweet would seem to suggest that she came back for late S4 and that S4 writing is pretty much done.

If that's true, then boy... how did it take them roughly a year to write S4 with a full staff complement? Did they do a full or partial EqG season alongside it or something? Starts and stops? Halves? Hmm....

I was thinking they might have stealthily started on S5 or EqG S1 earlier in the spring, but that doesn't square with stopping now at all.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Jun 15, 2013 8:33 pm

Okay, found another name: Stacey Chomiak, who works as "color artist & designer" on the show, adding. According to her profile, she began working on March 2013. I really wish we can figure out the production timeline for season 4.
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Postby Nissl (?) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:02 pm

Found a new press release from Hasbro.

It's mostly repeat news, but apparently they struck some new deals with European publishers "including Orchard Books, Panini, Planeta Comics, Edizioni BD and Sogur" for additional books. It's also confirmed that Equestria Girls will have "licensed publishing from IDW and Little Brown Books for Young Readers as well as accessories from Fashion Angels." Additionally, they will be adding an expanded apparel line for girls and women (!), to be rolled out at H&M. Finally, the Build-a-Bear program was apparently the most successful line in the store's history, with the initial run selling out in two weeks, and Twilight will be added in the fall.

Lots of positive business news all around.
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Postby Lowlydog (?) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:35 pm

Nissl wrote:Finally, the Build-a-Bear program was apparently the most successful line in the store's history, with the initial run selling out in two weeks, and Twilight will be added in the fall.

Lots of positive business news all around.


:starity: Holy crap, that sounds big.
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Postby Nissl (?) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:39 pm

Yeah, I was a bit surprised at that given that a lot of the fans didn't particularly love the Build-a-Bear designs. But obviously there's huge demand for plushies; didn't the first run of 4de Twilights (the best official ones, in my opinion) sell out 4 months before release or something?

I wonder if we'll see them experiment with LPS or Transformers plushies eventually. As far as I'm concerned if I'm Hasbro, it's just like a toy, but it costs roughly 5x as much.

Edit: just checked Build-a-Bear's site, and yep, Pinkie is the #1 seller with RD at #5. They're the only licensed toys in the top 20, not to mention the most expensive. I notice Build-a-Bear has recently added Spongebob and Monsters Inc. lines. Wonder if that is due to the MLP success. I don't recall seeing any licensed stuff there before, but perhaps my memory is being selective.
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:01 pm

Mr. Big wrote: I really wish we can figure out the production timeline for season 4.


EquestriaGuy was very good at that sort of thing... still is actually, but not at this venue.
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Postby Nissl (?) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:09 pm

One other note; while I was looking around the web at sales numbers yesterday, I noticed that the guidebook is sitting at ~#350 overall in Amazon books two weeks after it debuted. Considering Amazon's huge library, that strikes me as a pretty big win.
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:13 pm

The book deserves it, so I'm happy. :3: Especially for the price, it's very well put together.

In other news, I wish the Build-A-Bear ponies were avaible in Germany, but they are doing impressively well either way.
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