Re: Offseason General Show Chat
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Fizzbuzz
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Fizzbuzz wrote:At the very least, each of the Mane Six did have a reason why they wanted to go, even if those reasons (particularly Pinkie Pie's and Applejack's) proved to be not quite so good in the end.
Illuminations wrote:Interesting how Rarity, who was still relatively unknown in the high-class scene back in S1, still managed to directly approach a royal pony like Blueblood and converse with him without much hassle. Nowadays I'm sure that many of the nobles know who Rarity is because of her increasing success in fashion but back during the Gala she was still new to the scene. And despite all that she didn't face any hassles with any royal security or anything like with Sapphire Shore's bodypony.
Illuminations wrote:Also Rarity's goal, which ended up being especially disastrous. Interesting how Rarity, who was still relatively unknown in the high-class scene back in S1, still managed to directly approach a royal pony like Blueblood and converse with him without much hassle. Nowadays I'm sure that many of the nobles know who Rarity is because of her increasing success in fashion but back during the Gala she was still new to the scene. And despite all that she didn't face any hassles with any royal security or anything like with Sapphire Shore's bodypony.
ROBOT B9 wrote:Yeah, she was given a ticket by Celestia so it's obvious that they'd all be expected there.
Bremen wrote:Since we were taking about matriarchal societies, and now we're talking about Blueblood, there's something I've always wondered.
How much of the audience's reaction to Blueblood was colored by traditional gender roles? I'm not claiming he was a great guy or anything, but some things, like Rarity expecting him to open the door or pay for the food, can be taken differently if you assume the world in the show doesn't have the same tradition that males should take responsibility for females.
Headless Horse wrote:Even in a world where males are subordinate, picking a rose for your own mane has got to be pretty high on the Do Not Do list.
Bremen wrote:Since we were taking about matriarchal societies, and now we're talking about Blueblood, there's something I've always wondered.
How much of the audience's reaction to Blueblood was colored by traditional gender roles? I'm not claiming he was a great guy or anything, but some things, like Rarity expecting him to open the door or pay for the food, can be taken differently if you assume the world in the show doesn't have the same tradition that males should take responsibility for females.
The Doctor wrote::prettywings: Spike is the real Princess of Friendship.
Sobana wrote:If it is reverse doesn't that mean the female has to ask the male out and pay for his dinner and stuff? That might actually be very interesting to see. What if it is customary for Flash Sentry to wait until Twilight asked him out? Who was the dominant gender in Hearts and Hooves day? Royalty may be an exception to the rules.
DerFurShur wrote:I wouldnt say Equestria is just a simple flip flop of western society on terms of gender so much as it is a genuine egalitarian one. Neither gender seems to have a substantial dominant role over the other and both are allowed to function and be different without being not equally respected.
I mean yeah Equestria is run by four princesses but males stistibhaave a role in the goverment in military (Shining Armor, the Duke of Maretonia) but females are still present at all levels of leadership (Mayor Mare, Spitfire is captain of a an elite flying team, Harsh Whiny runs Equedtria's largest athletic event) then you have males and females in agriculture, in fashion, in popular culture, and construction.
Courting seems to be largeely less restricted by gender since the Cutie Mark Crusaders thought it was just as normally acceptable for Cheerilee to ask Big Mac out as it would be for any other stallion to ask her out.
Bremen wrote:Eh, Big Mac is older (and stronger, and possibly even smarter) than Applejack, but AJ runs the farm. And in Winter Wrap Up the leaders were all mares while stallions were pushing carts. Realistically, this is because the show is intended for girls and the main characters are mostly female (not to mention quite likely a lack of male voice actors, which doesn't matter if they're in background roles*), but if you were to just look at the portrayal in the show you could easily argue there's some gender bias at work, even if it's to a lesser extent than the modern real world.
*Which may be one reason why it's been improving as the show goes on.
Dexanth wrote:There's definitely males of high influence, too - Fancy Pants, Trenderhoof, and Hoity Toity all leap to mind.
ShieldedDiamond wrote:Fancy Pants needs to come back. I originally thought he would end up being a jerk, and then by the end of the episode he turned out to be genuinely good guy, why hasn't he come back up?
Sobana wrote:Everyone seems to use the same mythical creatures.
Sobana wrote:While I don't mind mythical creatures I prefer when they use their own original creatures like Changelings and Parasprites. Everyone seems to use the same mythical creatures.
ROBOT B9 wrote:Huh, I never knew that Changelings were a thing before MLP. Huh.
Sobana wrote:I think I heard enough heresy from you for one day.