Re: How Pony is Formed: Production and Business Thread
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Fizzbuzz
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Grue wrote:I haven't seen this discussed, but apparently CEO (and founder) of Hub, Margaret Loesch is stepping down at the end of the year. I find the timing rather suspicious, seeing as season 5 is slated for 2015 and definitely not fall 2014. What if the Hub is shut down and they air it on another channel, if at all?
Fizzbuzz wrote:Do we have evidence that kids are actually abandoning FiM as they grow into their preteen years? Given how appealing this show has been to everyone, I don't think they'd have any particular reason to leave beyond the cultural assumption of teenage rebellion, something which is most certainly not guaranteed.
Fizzbuzz wrote:Do we have evidence that kids are actually abandoning FiM as they grow into their preteen years? Given how appealing this show has been to everyone, I don't think they'd have any particular reason to leave beyond the cultural assumption of teenage rebellion, something which is most certainly not guaranteed.
Grue wrote:Oh, finally, real Transformers (Rescue Bots don't count). Looks like MLP might get some competition in the ratings. Transformers Prime was reportedly beating MLP back in seasons 1-2 but we never got the actual numbers every week like we do now.
Sobana wrote:I am highly skeptical of that claim...
ShieldedD. iamond wrote:
Here's one of the sources for what I said earlier. It also won Emmys in 2012, and 2013. If we're measuring shows for what awards were won, in addition to ratings and such, in that sense, Transformers Prime did do a better job than My Little Pony, despite the fact that it has ended, where MLP is still going.
AppleCobbler44 wrote:Well, FiM did win a handful of 'Best Animated Show' awards... On internet fan siteswhere- let's be honest, it's just a popularity contest and most voters just saw a tiiiiiiny teeeeeny bit of the other nominations so it's not exactly 'fair'.
But FiM did win the Leo AwardsBest Sound Design for Power Ponies (
) and Best Music Production for Pinkie Pride... Though the Leo Awards only take in submissions from the Vancouver area hence the laughably weak competition so in a way it's not exactly a big win compared to the Emmys or whatever.
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That said however, whether FiM deserves an Emmy or not is an possibly interesting discussion though probably more because I happen to think that it might not deserve one...
I'd like to get to why and my views but I dont think I can type this atm (family trip, on my tablet 'stead of laptop with an actual keyboard). Despite that I'm curious to hear people explain why FiM should get one because most reasons I come across seem to be worded more or less like:
"FiM is the greatest show in years. It has outstanding characters, the animation is great, and the stories are so excellently written."
While I disagree with most of that, i still would like to hear people's thoughts here and maybe expand more on that.
Sobana wrote:Prime wasn't even their most fan demanded show...
Sobana wrote:Alright, let's take the short cut then. What did Prime do to deserve an Emmy over FiM?
Because if memory serves me, didn't FiM get second highest ratings in TV history?
On one hand, you have a fanbase that's been around for 30 years, multiple forums, several TV shows, and 3 movies with a 4th coming out, one of the 3 films being one of the top grossing films in history, and they're not even well-received critically. Then, you have this, which most people don't think of the rest of the "pony community", being G3 and prior, people just relate this to FiM. I'm not saying either one is better, but I am saying this to make the point that the Transformer fandom is rather large, and as a result, it's not like My Little Pony is the only important thing to them. There are other large fandoms based on other things of theirs, too.
SoundMonkey44 wrote:@Sobana: No that's incorrect. MLP was HUBs second most watched program behind TF:Prime, before eventually beating it out and becoming the most watched show on THE HUB. MLPS highest ratings have been in the 700,000. That's. NOT EVEN CLOSE to second highest ratings in TV history. Not even close. Highest on HUB yes TV as a whole...no no no no no.
Sobana wrote:I just don't see what other shows could offer that could top the quality of ponies...
Tailspin wrote:
There are a number of shows that are just flat out better then Friendship is Magic.
I get it, you like the show, nothing wrong with that. But there's being a fan and there's just being delusional. I mean, you seem dead set on convincing yourself and the people here that this is the greatest show ever made. It's not.
Tailspin wrote:
There are a number of shows that are just flat out better then Friendship is Magic.
I get it, you like the show, nothing wrong with that. But there's being a fan and there's just being delusional. I mean, you seem dead set on convincing yourself and the people here that this is the greatest show ever made. It's not.
Kate wrote:there are as many female characters in the base game as there are Cole McGraths
Sobana wrote:in your option what current cartoon is better then ponies?
Tailspin wrote:Applecobbler, watch Avatar: The Last Airbender. You're already watching Korra.
Headless Horse wrote:the thesis isn't that FiM is the best cartoon ever made.
Sobana wrote:I just don't see what other shows could offer that could top the quality of ponies...
Of course, of course, but in their 2013 report pony was the only one were they said "Hey, look how much money this made!" Pony seems to be their new big trendy thing. Transfromers has been around for a while and has got like some 300 licensing labels whereas pony only has like 30 so far... I'm sure in about 30 years FiM will be making big movies too...
ShieldedDiamond wrote:
Yeah, and in 2007, 2009, and 2011, and probably this year too, they've said "Look how much money Transformers made!" My Little Pony isn't the only brand that makes Hasbro money as you're saying. And considering since it's been around even before Transformers, they've had their fair share of licenses too.
They also won't make a FiM movie, because by that point in 30 years, there will most likely be another MLP franchise. They also tried to make an MLP movie. It bombed. And while the same happened for Transformers and GI Joe, they both happened to be able to make gritty reboot movies, which seem to be a fad now. Something I'm certain MLP won't be able to do.
Sobana wrote:That seems highly debatable. Their one spin off movie did so well it lead to another movie and series...
Jyu wrote:In all honestly, if somebody says "My Little Pony is the best cartoon ever!!" that's totally fine. You don't need to go saying they're wrong and start naming other shows you think are better. Gravity Falls is a great show and if you think it's a better than ponies that's fine but you don't have to bring it up every time. Shows should be judged on their own merits, not whether or not they're better than some other show.
Sobana wrote:This show is now immortal~
Tailspin wrote:You are obsessed with positivity and negativity and it's pretty much your response to anything anyone says that you don't like.