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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:46 pm

AppleCobbler44 wrote:Okay, here it is:



So if we're to follow this to the teeth, we wont be hearing about Season 5 and rather just EqG2 and the making of FiM.
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I'd imagine they'd have to say at least a little about season 5" like maybe weather it'll be Premiring November like usual or we really will have to wait till Q1 of 2015 for the premire.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:54 am

Watch them talk about how Season 5 is just an internal codename for EqG Season 1. :v:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:52 am

The Outlander wrote:Watch them talk about how Season 5 is just an internal codename for EqG Season 1. :v:



Nah according to France the EQG TV show is called Equestria Academy. :v:

But wait till they announce season 5 is a time skip and about a teenage CMC living in Manehatten, that still don't have their cutie marks!

The shows new name will be 4 Broke fillies staring AB, Babs, Scoots & Sweetie. With Diamond Tiara & Silver Spoon as the jerky landlords. :gotcha:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:57 am

The Outlander wrote:Watch them talk about how Season 5 is just an internal codename for EqG Season 1. :v:


:gotcha: "Sorry, there will not be a FiM season 5. There will be an EqG season 1 though, with many more to come!"
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:19 am

If that happens, people may actually riot over that.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:18 am

General question for a general thread: has anyone seen a direct, exact-same-pose comparison of Classic Twilight and Princess Twilight? I'm kinda curious about exactly how her model changed, but it's hard to establish given how subtly her posture can change from shot to shot.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:42 am

Everyone makes jokes about how her neck got bigger, but I really don't see it. I know she increased in height and stature... :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Lorce (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:27 am

Well, increased height kinda implies longer neck too. :-I
Additionally, her neck already seemed pretty long on the older model at times, due to her mane covering it in most shots (and even changing sides to achieve that - :twiright: :-/ :facehoof: ), so it appeared bigger whenever shot on the "wrong" side. ^^
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:33 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Everyone makes jokes about how her neck got bigger, but I really don't see it. I know she increased in height and stature... :pinkieshrug:


The only part I'm 100% certain about is the horn, and only because it's super obvious when comparing.

Lorce wrote:Well, increased height kinda implies longer neck too. :-I
Additionally, her neck already seemed pretty long on the older model at times, due to her mane covering it in most shots (and even changing sides to achieve that - :twiright: :-/ :facehoof: ), so it appeared bigger whenever shot on the "wrong" side. ^^


It's this sort of stuff that makes it so difficult to be sure!

If anyone can remember a good S1-S3 scene with Twilight standing side on without any particular changes in head-position, I found a fairly neutral stance in S4 to compare it with:

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All of my S1-S3 episodes are low-res versions, so they're not much use for comparing.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:03 pm

I'll just quote this one from the PTS episode thread:
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If we make a quick little comparison.

This is the old Twilight:

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This is the new Twilight:

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You can see that her horn has gotten longer, it now goes outside the edge of the mane, cutting off the rounding. You can also see that her hair doesn't go as far down anymore because her neck has extended a bit (and her pose isn't too good in this picture, but it's also noticeable in EqG.) They're subtle, but they're still noticeable, at least to me.


The difference is small, but it is there. It's pretty much just enough to give her neck a slight inward curve going up to her head.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:53 pm

Come to think of it, they probably extended the neck just so her mane wasn't covering her wings. She'd probably look extremely awkward if she wasn't at least a little bigger, because that's what helps make the other Princesses look so graceful. They have a lot more room on their bodies to attach a horn, wings, mane, and tail without it looking too crowded.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:10 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Everyone makes jokes about how her neck got bigger, but I really don't see it. I know she increased in height and stature... :pinkieshrug:

You can see there more space between the top of her leg and the bottom of her mane = a smidge taller.



See, friends, ponies are like pizzas. :spike101:
You can order a plain cheese. :pinkieshrug: :applejargh:

You can order a sausage and pepperoni :grumpydash: :flutterdear:

You can also order a mushroom, onion, and green pepper.
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But you can also pay extra and get a supreme pizza that includes all of the above! :wingsright:


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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:25 pm

Are you saying Pinkie is plain? :squintyjack:
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:54 pm

I doubt we'll see it, but I think it would be fun if they emphasized the changes more over time, with Twilight slowly becoming more like Celestia/Luna. Longer/sharper horn, taller, lankier, and her mane starting to sparkle like it did in Twilight's Kingdom.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:44 pm

That would be really cool to see. :allears:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:57 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Are you saying Pinkie is plain? :squintyjack:


Anyone who thinks Cheese is plain in Ponyville missed :hiiiii: entirely.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:00 pm

WandereringPony wrote:
Anyone who thinks Cheese is plain in Ponyville missed :hiiiii: entirely.

Too bad Cheese Sandwich is who knows where now. He's only anywhere where there's a big party that needs to be thrown.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:10 pm

I really love that they made him like The Man With No Name in terms of being a wanderer.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:56 pm

:allears: Want a great party fast? Just dial 555-CHZS and say "Cheese, please!"

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:26 pm

Wow...I think we need that Harshwhinny smiley, it looks really cool.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sat Jul 12, 2014 7:09 pm

The Outlander wrote:Come to think of it, they probably extended the neck just so her mane wasn't covering her wings. She'd probably look extremely awkward if she wasn't at least a little bigger, because that's what helps make the other Princesses look so graceful. They have a lot more room on their bodies to attach a horn, wings, mane, and tail without it looking too crowded.


They should have just made the wings smaller anyway. They look too big on her and it looks awkward, she looks better with a regular pegasus pony's wings.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:38 am

I think the reason they made the wings so large was to show off Twilight's majesty and make her closer to the other princesses.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:06 am

I'm sure that's true, but the wings just aren't as good a design as either Celestia's or the regular pegasus wings. Celestia's are great realistic swan-type wings, and garden-variety pegasi have wings that mimic hands in their curvature and construction, so they trigger a sense of pleasant familiarity in the brain:

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Twilight's and Luna's wings are a weird kind of hybrid thing that doesn't really key off anything we're familiar with in nature, so they don't "click" in the same way.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:35 am

Twilight's wings are anything but majestic. They're best described as awkard and out of place.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:59 pm

B-b-but her wings are so pretty! :flutterdear:

To tell you all the truth, I've gotten used to the wings and think they look nice on her.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:23 pm

Tailspin wrote:Twilight's wings are anything but majestic. They're best described as awkard and out of place.


That's how I feel. There were a couple of animation errors in Equestria Games, that gave Twilight the normal wings, and they definitely looked much better on her than the alicorn ones.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 4:29 pm

I never noticed those errors, but I found this picture.

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Honestly, it's a big improvement. I didn't give much thought to how Twilight's wings look out of place, but the Pegasus wings certainly look more natural. Can't go back now, I guess, but that was a big missed opportunity. It'd help her feel more in unity with her friends, too, I feel.

Also, I want to see evidence of Twilight being super strong or having awesome farming abilities now. There's so much focus on the wings, but what about her new Earth Pony powers?
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:37 pm

The Outlander wrote:Also, I want to see evidence of Twilight being super strong or having awesome farming abilities now. There's so much focus on the wings, but what about her new Earth Pony powers?


:shepspike: Earth Ponies don't have powers.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:46 pm

Pinkie does! And so does Maud! :spike101:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:47 pm

The Outlander wrote:Honestly, it's a big improvement. I didn't give much thought to how Twilight's wings look out of place, but the Pegasus wings certainly look more natural. Can't go back now, I guess, but that was a big missed opportunity. It'd help her feel more in unity with her friends, too, I feel.


They can still change it, i mean they changed luna's entire appearance and as long as they don't bring attention to it, no one will question it.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:06 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Pinkie does! And so does Maud! :spike101:


That could just be a Pie thing. :-P
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 12:12 am

they have some sort of power, what else did Tirek steal from them all?
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:32 am

sailoryue wrote:they have some sort of power, what else did Tirek steal from them all?


Alicorns-All Magic
Unicorns - Raw Magic
Pegasui- Air/weather Magic
Earth Ponies/Zebra- Earth Magic

Least that's how I see it.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:36 am

ZamuelNow wrote:
:shepspike: Earth Ponies don't have powers.

Twilight's Kingdom made it pretty clear that the strength and fortitude of the earth ponies was derived from magic, same as the flight of the pegasi. And of course, cutie marks are generated via magic.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:03 am

Tirek stole the Earth ponies' buffness. He was guzzling protein shakes and hitting the gym whenever he wasn't on screen.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:33 am

Actually, does Equestria have any gyms? I don't think we've ever seen one.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:20 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Actually, does Equestria have any gyms? I don't think we've ever seen one.

One would imagine given Bulk's cutie mark and girth.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:09 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Actually, does Equestria have any gyms? I don't think we've ever seen one.

We have seen ponies lifting weights before, such as in Hurricane Fluttershy.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:55 am

Lifting weights, yes, but I don't think we've seen an actual exercise gym as of yet. It would be interesting to see... :pinkieshrug:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:04 pm

Running/walking is a primary form of exercise for equines, so I expect treadmills would be very common. :twasnothin:
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