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Postby Sobana (?) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:46 pm

Oh, so it's a normal Discovery channel then? :smirk:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:49 pm

Pretty much. They've got some documentary on a Giant Shark in South Africa right now. :-P
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:41 pm

Soon there will only be documentaries about the life cycle of small horses. :amazing:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:19 am

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This is from the licensed MLP manga :starity:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:38 am

:-/ No more cider for her Applejack.

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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:02 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:I think it's also important to note, Pony isn't just popular with nerdy adult men and women but the actual intended demo of kids & Tweens as well.


As is Transformers and Power Rangers and so on as well? I fail to see your point. Also, you would be incorrect about kids used to it chsnging, because why else do we keep getting reincarnated versions of the same characters over and over? They're popular. You think Hasbro wouldn't reuse the same names as FiM when it ends? Of course people would still recognize them. But that doesn't change the fact that everythinh needs to be refreshed, or else it gets stale. And I believe it is evident in the writing that stale feeling is getting close.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:37 am

We will simply have to agree to disagree.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:52 am

Well lucky FiM has no signs of getting stale any time soon.

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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:30 am

As I said, I believe it is showing all the signs of being on the brink of going stale. Major unnessecary and large plot changes, adding of something new to a character, and now they're in the process of attempting to add another character to the group. So many changes in such a short time I believe indicates almost a forced attempt to keep things fresh without refreshing, and that can only happen so much.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:22 am

Eh, I don't really see it. FIM has a lot of territory to explore with the world of Equestria and I think it's got a good couple of seasons left in it. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:22 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:As I said, I believe it is showing all the signs of being on the brink of going stale. Major unnessecary and large plot changes, adding of something new to a character, and now they're in the process of attempting to add another character to the group. So many changes in such a short time I believe indicates almost a forced attempt to keep things fresh without refreshing, and that can only happen so much.

Yeah, you are right, the show sure did jump the shark after Twilight became a princess. :smirk:

The show should have ended after season two. :v:

Retro end it now! :rant:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 9:34 am

I think she's right, they've been trying a bit too hard for the last 2 seasons and the show suffered for it. There's been less interesting new worldbuilding and more references and rehashes of old stuff, less funny slice of life stories and more epic adventures, I feel that's not a good sign. That kind of tone is fine for the comics but I want more from the show.

That said, I still enjoy it and season 4 still had a lot of great episodes --some of which were among the best the show's had. So I'm not too worried :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:06 am

What could have season four done to make it even better? :ponder:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:26 am

Eh, I think they're doing fine right now. I'd like to see some more slice of life as well but I think S5 will head back to that territory.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:30 am

You know there's something that's been eating at me I really just gotta get off my chest.

I am genuinly fearing the season 5 episode disscussions at this site. Like legit fearing. I jus know no matter what the show runners do some are adimant to be negative no matter what.

On top of that I'm tired of feeling like I need to apologize for still genuinly enjoying the show and thinking it's gotten better as it's gone on. That's a legitimately horrible feeling.

Honestly the MLP community as a whole seems to be at this point, in various ways, just as self destructive & toxic as everything else in nerd culture. I mean this is a show about magical talking horses teachings kids about friendship... It shouldn't cause anyone stress.


And you know... TRS isn't any exception. This may be a nice clean porclean tower. But it's just as bad as anywhere else... Maybe in a different way then most. But yeah, that air of elitism & hive mind mentalities, octrization who doesn't see eye to eye with the big wigs... It's here too & I just don't know how to deal with it anymore.... I put up with that for six years in the anime fandom... Being told I was an uptight idiot for being turned off by content of some of the more risqué titles out there. But now I'm a Buffon for not being critical enough... You just can't win... I'm done man. I'm done with forums and this whole toxic self destructive nerd culture... It's just too disgusting for me to stomach anymore for anything.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:38 am

But you shouldn't have to feel that way. There's nothing wrong with still liking the show and enjoying it. You don't have to feel sorry for liking a television show, no one should. Even if others don't like it, if it makes YOU happy, that's what matters. In terms of episode discussions, everyone will have their own opinion and that's OK. I don't think everyone will be ripping the season to shreds because of little things but will instead judge it on their own merits.

You're not "not critical enough" and there's nothing wrong for you having your own opinions on things. Even if you don't agree with everyone, it is your right to have them and say your piece.

I don't really see a "hive mind" in TRS. In fact, I think this place is one of the best places to visit for interesting discussion about the show and other things.

You are a good friend, SoundMonkey. If you want to leave, than I wish the best for you. I enjoy having you here but if you feel you want to move on, that is your decision as well.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:47 am

Different people watch for different reasons and they have different opinions. It's just a tv show :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:42 pm

I kinda agree with SoundMonkey. Every fan forum seems to gravitate towards it's own hive mind of thinking. You just have to search until you find the right one for you. You might have to find one less serious gloomed filled then this one. I can recommend some you might like. :geno:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:49 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:You know there's something that's been eating at me I really just gotta get off my chest.

I am genuinly fearing the season 5 episode disscussions at this site. Like legit fearing. I jus know no matter what the show runners do some are adimant to be negative no matter what.

On top of that I'm tired of feeling like I need to apologize for still genuinly enjoying the show and thinking it's gotten better as it's gone on. That's a legitimately horrible feeling.

Honestly the MLP community as a whole seems to be at this point, in various ways, just as self destructive & toxic as everything else in nerd culture. I mean this is a show about magical talking horses teachings kids about friendship... It shouldn't cause anyone stress.


And you know... TRS isn't any exception. This may be a nice clean porclean tower. But it's just as bad as anywhere else... Maybe in a different way then most. But yeah, that air of elitism & hive mind mentalities, octrization who doesn't see eye to eye with the big wigs... It's here too & I just don't know how to deal with it anymore.... I put up with that for six years in the anime fandom... Being told I was an uptight idiot for being turned off by content of some of the more risqué titles out there. But now I'm a Buffon for not being critical enough... You just can't win... I'm done man. I'm done with forums and this whole toxic self destructive nerd culture... It's just too disgusting for me to stomach anymore for anything.


I kinda went through this back when I started with the show. For the whole first season and a big chunk of the second I had no interaction with other fans at all; it was just me and a fun TV show. Then I started to read websites and forums, and suddenly all the negative stuff started to creep in.

The solution for me was to go silent during the time the new episodes aired. No reading comments, no discussions, nothing. Suddenly it was just me and a fun TV show again. Worth considering if you're feeling as burned out as it seems like you are.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:18 pm

ShieldedDiamond wrote:As I said, I believe it is showing all the signs of being on the brink of going stale. Major unnessecary and large plot changes, adding of something new to a character, and now they're in the process of attempting to add another character to the group. So many changes in such a short time I believe indicates almost a forced attempt to keep things fresh without refreshing, and that can only happen so much.

What do you mean, "attempting to add another character to the group"? Are you talking about Spike's appearances with the Mane Six, such as his tiny throne next to Twilight's? Spike has been there since the very beginning of the show, and honestly, I think he deserves more attention. If you're referring to someone else then I'm not sure who you mean.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:29 pm

I haven't heard anything about a "new character" either. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Rarietty (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:19 pm

Sunset Shimmer, maybe? :pinkieshrug:

She's forever vetoed to anthro-land anyways. Her inclusion doesn't matter when we're talking about non-Equestria Girls stuff. She makes the group dynamic slightly different if an Equestria Girls TV show ever happens. That's not a bad thing, since making a parallel copy of FiM with humans would feel pointless and stale.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:23 pm

Yeah, Sunset Shimmer appears to be entirely meant for EqG to have a separate main character, one who'll hopefully make people instantly think of EqG the same way Twilight Sparkle brings FiM to mind. I doubt she'll ever show up in the FiM side of the franchise, beyond those few toys of her (as a pony) that came out last year.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:25 pm

Yeah, it's definitely not her. I've been racking my brain trying to think of who it could be... :ponder:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:30 pm

I hope Sunset at least makes a brief cameo in a future season.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:49 pm

She probably meant Discord. At least I think his addition to the cast seemed really forced, he was amazing in Return of Harmony but I wish they hadn't brough him back.

He's not gonna be part of the mane 6 or anything but it's still awkward :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 2:57 pm

Eh, I think he'll be more reoccuring in a few episodes than a main fixture of the show. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:21 pm

I don't see him becoming more common than, say, Zecora. Now that they've gotten his redemption all done (another thing Twilight's Kingdom was good for), hopefully we'll get more stories out of him like what we had in Three's A Crowd and his various appearances in the comics.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:59 pm

It's nice they do more stories about characters other then the mane six.
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Postby Dal (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 12:56 am

Eh, I thought Discord was really good in the S4 finale, and in Three's A Crowd.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:28 am

Yeah, his character arch has been really good.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:00 am

I wasn't a fan of the decisions to have him return and reform, and I didn't really find his presence in S4 to be really satisfying. I'd say, more episodes of him and just him messing around more would've been appreciated.

Maybe I had too high expectations like he'd be similar to the Genie in the Aladdin series. Not as prevalent but I was hoping for a bit more 'Hijinks with Discord' (*kinda scary image*) episodes than we got thus maybe that Season finale arc ending might have felt more 'deserved'.

Plus, I'd like to see Discord let loose with his chaos more like Genie. There was an episode in Alddin where Genie was sick and when he sneezed, things went awry like Jasmine turning into a Koala, the Monalisa, a carrot, etc. Imagine if Applejack turned into an orange or Rairty into a mule
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:18 am

I think we'll see more of that side of him now that he's fully reformed.
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Postby Strangest Letter (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:45 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:I think we'll see more of that side of him now that he's fully reformed.


Here's hoping they actually stick to the whole reformed thing.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:05 am

I have a theory he can only use his magic for chaos and nothing else. That is the feeling I got from his latest comic at least. Even if he is truly reformed and wanted to help he couldn't.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 11:23 am

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Here's hoping they actually stick to the whole reformed thing.

I think they will. After all, Discord being put to the test was a big part of Twilight's Kingdom, so I do not think that aspect of him will be walked back.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:07 pm

Here's something I've forgotten about. It's from a crappy webcomic I drew in 2012. It was never published because I never finished the story.

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Season 2 was about to begin when I drew this :v:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:20 pm

Aw, ponified Koko looks so adorable. :allears:
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:25 pm

Yes, totes adorbs! :allears: :allears: :allears:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Oct 14, 2014 12:18 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:What do you mean, "attempting to add another character to the group"? Are you talking about Spike's appearances with the Mane Six, such as his tiny throne next to Twilight's? Spike has been there since the very beginning of the show, and honestly, I think he deserves more attention. If you're referring to someone else then I'm not sure who you mean.


I meant Sunset Shimmer with EqG. I still see EqG as part of FiM, and Sunset is not just some Twilight replacement.
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