February General Discussion Thread: A Brave New Horse Year

here a forum about pony (General Pony Talk)

Moderators: Perrydotto, Dexanth, Venusy, Wayoshi

Re: February General Discussion Thread: A Brave New Horse Ye

Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:20 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I think the show operates on Comic Book Time. Look at it this way, the Simpsons has been running for nearly 25 years, but Bart is still 10 years old. In the 17 years "South Park" has been on the air, the boys aged 2 years (in season 1, they were 8 years old. Sometime around season 4 they became 9 years old; they finally became 10 in season 15).

What I'm saying is, animation timeline doesn't make sense.


Yeah. A show can't plan out in advance how long it's going to last. It might be on the air for ten seasons, or it might only last for one.

A show that is funded in advance and planned out to last for years can build aging into its design. Like For Better Or For Worse, which (at least as a comic) was intended from the outset to grow and age in real-time. But it's a rare animated cartoon that has that kind of job security. If you plan to have its characters age along with its viewers, or even just to have a long-term story arc, and then it gets cancelled... well then it just sort of leaves everyone holding the bag.

If it's a short-lived show, you can get away with designing the characters not to age (this particularly goes for kids). I think this is what South Park had in mind—I doubt they expected the show to last longer than a year or two before people got sick of this crazy offensive construction-paper fad. But what happens when a show that was planned to be short-lived just keeps going... and going... and going?

Pony was probably planned not to live longer than the three seasons that are about the outer limits of plausibility for characters like the CMCs not to age in a world that clearly shows the passage of time. Now that it's going on beyond that point, they have to scramble a bit to rethink things, and will probably just transition into Simpsons rules. (That or give 'em those dang marks.)

Note that live-action shows, like sitcoms, do have to think about real-time aging all the time, because they employ kid actors who are going to age whether you want them to or not. :v:
Headless Horse
User avatar
The yoke is strictly ornamental
Faithful Students
Joined: May 23, 2011

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:35 pm

Any episode between the barriers of the season premieres and finales, with 122 after 114 after 103 due to the gala mini-arc, 126 (the Gala), and 203 being locked (setting up S2's moral system), are freely interchangeable in my opinion, with the exception of 308/12 wrapped together and possibly 411/16 coming up.

There are probably a couple more minor exceptions, but that's about it

(Still not used to seeing my posts w/o Fluttersun AV, loooool)
Wayoshi
User avatar
Paper Fluttershy
Stare Masters
Joined: Oct 26, 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male

Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:41 pm

Headless Horse wrote:
Yeah. A show can't plan out in advance how long it's going to last. It might be on the air for ten seasons, or it might only last for one.

A show that is funded in advance and planned out to last for years can build aging into its design. Like For Better Or For Worse, which (at least as a comic) was intended from the outset to grow and age in real-time. But it's a rare animated cartoon that has that kind of job security. If you plan to have its characters age along with its viewers, or even just to have a long-term story arc, and then it gets cancelled... well then it just sort of leaves everyone holding the bag.

If it's a short-lived show, you can get away with designing the characters not to age (this particularly goes for kids). I think this is what South Park had in mind—I doubt they expected the show to last longer than a year or two before people got sick of this crazy offensive construction-paper fad. But what happens when a show that was planned to be short-lived just keeps going... and going... and going?

Pony was probably planned not to live longer than the three seasons that are about the outer limits of plausibility for characters like the CMCs not to age in a world that clearly shows the passage of time. Now that it's going on beyond that point, they have to scramble a bit to rethink things, and will probably just transition into Simpsons rules. (That or give 'em those dang marks.)

This is actually part of why I was hoping that whole "five more years" thing was real. If that was the case, and everyone knew the show would be over after that, Meghan and the gang could sit down and work out a five-year plan for FiM's overall story and actually be able to build on it for the rest of the run. At least S4's ongoing stories in the background have been working well so far, so if future seasons can keep coming up with season-long arcs like that then I think that'll still last well until whenever Hasbro decides FiM's time is up.
Image
Fizzbuzz
User avatar
Stare Masters
Joined: Mar 02, 2013
Location: TN
Gender: Male

Postby Higsby (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:01 am

Higsby
User avatar
Faithful Students
Joined: Aug 14, 2013
Location: Canada
Gender: Male

Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:15 am

You know, those SFM models are starting to grow on me. Mostly because they're becoming robust enough to properly emote.
Perpetual Lurker
User avatar
Just blending in.
Special Flowers
Joined: Oct 16, 2012
Gender: Genderless

Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:18 am



Alright, that was kind of adorable.

:gotcha: Boop.
:-/ Get away from me, I'm reading.
ShieldedDiamond
User avatar
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Dec 13, 2013

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:22 am

Ha, I think that was the first SFM pony video that I really liked. I hope whoever made it decides to make more.
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Gloomy Rube (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:26 am

I love that I know exactly where the guy got the doom music from. :-I



Still one of the cutest videos ever. :shenanigans:
Image
ImageImageImageImage
Gloomy Rube
User avatar
Is someone playing the "Say Two Names" game in here?
Celestia's Champions
Joined: Mar 20, 2011

Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:28 am



Well, there's this one by the same guy too. Which I admit I giggled at. :gotcha:
ShieldedDiamond
User avatar
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Dec 13, 2013

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:39 am

Heh, these videos are great. I'm actually debating on subscribing to his YouTube channel now.
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Higsby (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:07 am

I'm not always a fan of SFM pony videos myself, and used to find the models a little weird, although when I saw this one I just knew that I had to share it. I'm glad to see that people have been enjoying it! :excite:
Higsby
User avatar
Faithful Students
Joined: Aug 14, 2013
Location: Canada
Gender: Male

Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:34 pm

What's your avatar from, Shielded Diamond? Have I missed a comic issue or something? :ponder:
Image
Highbrow Dash
User avatar
but why would you post such a thing??
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Oct 15, 2011
Location: Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Doctor Wheeze (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:36 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:What's your avatar from, Shielded Diamond? Have I missed a comic issue or something? :ponder:

That's from the most recent comic, which was part 2 of the bookworm story. I think.
ImageImageImageImageImage
..... :hatte:
:dreamworks:
Doctor Wheeze
User avatar
:backaway: :flutterunsmith:
Stare Masters
Joined: Jul 25, 2011
Gender: Male

Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:39 pm

Oh yeah, I thought that wasn't out yet for some reason. Time for some :ponydrugs:
Image
Highbrow Dash
User avatar
but why would you post such a thing??
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Oct 15, 2011
Location: Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Durandal (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:40 pm

Grilina wrote:I love that I know exactly where the guy got the doom music from. :-I



Still one of the cutest videos ever. :shenanigans:



I am so doing this :gotcha:
ImageImageImageImage
Durandal
User avatar
dunkification in progress
Faithful Students
Joined: Jun 05, 2011
Location: Issaquah
Gender: Male

Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:44 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:What's your avatar from, Shielded Diamond? Have I missed a comic issue or something? :ponder:


Yep, as Doctor Wheeze said, the most recent comic. As they book-hop, Rarity ends up in a crime noir book called "Dial S for Sassy". (Hence my user title as well. :vogue:)
ShieldedDiamond
User avatar
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Dec 13, 2013

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:46 pm

Aw...since they did it in the comic, I guess that means it won't be in the show. Shame, I always wanted to see an episode based on that.
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:49 pm

If I remember the preview right, they won't be doing ponies in spaceships in the show either :v:

Forgetting about this means that I've only got to wait 1 week before the next issue, hurray! :party:
Image
Highbrow Dash
User avatar
but why would you post such a thing??
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Oct 15, 2011
Location: Spain
Gender: Male

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:52 pm

Damn...pony Sci-fi was in my top 5 list of things I wanted the show to do. :applejargh:
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Gloomy Rube (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:53 pm

Durandal wrote:I am so doing this :gotcha:


I like your name replacement thing. :-I
Image
ImageImageImageImage
Gloomy Rube
User avatar
Is someone playing the "Say Two Names" game in here?
Celestia's Champions
Joined: Mar 20, 2011

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:33 pm

The writers for MLP all worked on different shows, but this is still the most strangest place to find one:

Image
Mr. Big
User avatar
Princess smooch
Scootaloo's Pro Scooters
Joined: Mar 27, 2011
Location: TN
Gender: Male

Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:39 pm

Huh, maybe that explains why some of his episodes are controversial. :v:
ShieldedDiamond
User avatar
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Dec 13, 2013

Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:44 pm

Mr. Big wrote:The writers for MLP all worked on different shows, but this is still the most strangest place to find one:

Image

Well have you seen Tara Strong's character on Drawn Together? :-I
Octavia
User avatar
Octavia's Orchestra
Joined: Sep 17, 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Gender: Male

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:46 pm

Of all the writers, Polsky has the most experience writing adult materials. Merriwether Williams also worked on an adult cartoon, but that was a one-time anomaly.

Octavia wrote:Well have you seen Tara Strong's character on Drawn Together? :-I

If Mary Kay Bergman didn't commit suicide, would she have voiced Twilight? :ponder:
Mr. Big
User avatar
Princess smooch
Scootaloo's Pro Scooters
Joined: Mar 27, 2011
Location: TN
Gender: Male

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:48 pm

Some jerky man child was attacking AKR on her twitter, she even retweeted one of the tweets, so please go to her Tiwtter account and show her some love! :party: :flutterunsmith:
Image
Sunset Shimmer is BEST Hu-Mane!!
SoundMonkey44
User avatar
Ain't Got No Sense, No Sense At All.
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: The South West
Gender: Male

Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:01 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Some jerky man child was attacking AKR on her twitter, she even retweeted one of the tweets, so please go to her Tiwtter account and show her some love! :party: :flutterunsmith:

Uggghhh I hate this fandom so much sometimes. :-/

I sent her a supportive tweet, and it looks like a lot of people are doing the same. :flutterunsmith:
Octavia
User avatar
Octavia's Orchestra
Joined: Sep 17, 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Gender: Male

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:05 pm

Octavia wrote:Uggghhh I hate this fandom so much sometimes. :-/

I sent her a supportive tweet, and it looks like a lot of people are doing the same. :flutterunsmith:



Yep, that's one of the few good things about the net, there's still good fans willing to fight the monsters in their community & show appreciation and support to show staff & fellow fans!


And hey, on the bright side, we aren't as bad as the anime fans :party:


.....yet. :deflated:
Image
Sunset Shimmer is BEST Hu-Mane!!
SoundMonkey44
User avatar
Ain't Got No Sense, No Sense At All.
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: The South West
Gender: Male

Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:08 pm

Image

:pcstare: Justice will be swift and harsh. Trial will begin next week after I make a new one.
The Doctor
User avatar
Turner of all things timey wimey
Celestia's Champions
Joined: May 05, 2011
Location: Time & Space
Gender: Male

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:16 pm

That's a heck of a typo. :gotcha:


Also, starting in March HUB will start airing 6 pony eps & 4 LPS eps a day. :party:


But Goodebumps, Haunting Hour, Batman Beyond & TF: Animated are leaving the weekday line up. :cry:


Also Sister Sister reruns start in March! :crack:
Image
Sunset Shimmer is BEST Hu-Mane!!
SoundMonkey44
User avatar
Ain't Got No Sense, No Sense At All.
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: The South West
Gender: Male

Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:19 pm

No more Transformers Animated on weekdays?

Image

But... I really liked Transformers Animated...
ShieldedDiamond
User avatar
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Dec 13, 2013

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:44 pm

ShieldedDiamond wrote:No more Transformers Animated on weekdays?

Image

But... I really liked Transformers Animated...


me Too. :fluttersmith:

But hey that's how things work with networks, I'm sure it will be back in rotation eventually.

Although personally I'd love to see HUB air Beast Wars. Still think it's crazy a network partially owned by Hasbro doesn't air more incarnations of their properties.
Image
Sunset Shimmer is BEST Hu-Mane!!
SoundMonkey44
User avatar
Ain't Got No Sense, No Sense At All.
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: The South West
Gender: Male

Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:26 am

Mr. Big wrote:The writers for MLP all worked on different shows, but this is still the most strangest place to find one:

Image


Man wait till you find Tara Strong's work history...

But yea, animation industries are pretty incestuous so it does lead to some funny moments of "Oh the dude who wrote for (kid's show) added things for the episode when Cartman put hamburgers in his butt?"
ImageImageImageImage
3DS code: 4811-8169-5683
die Fledermaus
User avatar
Here comes Santa Claus, here comes Santa Claus, crashing through your door.
Diamond Dusters
Joined: Feb 14, 2011
Gender: Male

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:07 am

Octavia wrote:Well have you seen Tara Strong's character on Drawn Together? :-I

Chris Savino submits cartoons to Playboy. How's that? :starity:

(Savino's public tumblr has some really, really perverted cartoons. It's amazing :-I )
Mr. Big
User avatar
Princess smooch
Scootaloo's Pro Scooters
Joined: Mar 27, 2011
Location: TN
Gender: Male

Postby MochaBean (?) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:24 am

Hey, if Shel Silverstein could do it, why not Savino? :-P
MochaBean
User avatar
Take it from me, little buddy
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 25, 2011

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:20 am

Shel Silverstein also wrote songs for Johnny Cash, including A Boy Named Sue. :spike101:
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Thaddeus (?) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:12 am

Just stopped by to say that Pseudonym's Avatar is super adorbs. Happy Kitteh :allears:
Image :excellent:
ImageImageImageImage
"I was awoken by the sound of mockery; where is it?" -Stan Pines
Thaddeus
User avatar
My sun friend here finds your posting offensive. I, however, am loving this shit.
Agents of Chaos
Joined: Aug 14, 2012
Location: New England
Gender: Male

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:37 pm

Yeah, it's definitely my favourite non-pony avatar at the moment. It's just so cute! :allears:
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Octavia (?) » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:41 pm

If you say you enjoy someone's av, PLEASE post it so we know what you're talking about. That's like pet peeve #1 for me on these forums. :flipout:

Here's Pseudo's av:

Image
Octavia
User avatar
Octavia's Orchestra
Joined: Sep 17, 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Gender: Male

Postby The Outlander (?) » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:19 am

Octavia wrote:If you say you enjoy someone's av, PLEASE post it so we know what you're talking about. That's like pet peeve #1 for me on these forums. :flipout:

Here's Pseudo's av:

Image


I know, right? I think it was Headless who said before that it was like this forum's past-time or something to mention someone's "Awesome New AV" and then leave you scrolling upward fruitlessly looking for it, only to discover it's not on this page or even the one before it. :facehoof:
Kate wrote:there are as many female characters in the base game as there are Cole McGraths
The Outlander
User avatar
Oh Barry~
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Oct 21, 2012
Location: Bradford, PA

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:44 am

shotgunbadger wrote:But yea, animation industries are pretty incestuous so it does lead to some funny moments of "Oh the dude who wrote for (kid's show) added things for the episode when Cartman put hamburgers in his butt?"

Actually, "South Park" is seemingly the only TV cartoon that's truly "outside" from other cartoons, because I rarely see "South Park" crew, past and present, on other shows.

There are exceptions, though. In addition to Polsky, I also spotted some of SP's animators on "Foster's Home". Makes sense, since both shows use templates and puppet drawings for animation.

...huh, there seems to be a tiny degrees of separation between Lauren Faust and "South Park"

Rob Renzetti's another name with a credit in adult cartoons. He directed on "Family Guy" years ago.
Mr. Big
User avatar
Princess smooch
Scootaloo's Pro Scooters
Joined: Mar 27, 2011
Location: TN
Gender: Male

Previous Next

Return to Ponies

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests