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Re: Offseason General Show Chat

Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:07 pm

Stargazer wrote:Okay, so Family Appreciation Day is airing currently on the Mareathon and is it just me or is that a really casual Eye of Providence on the tent in the upper right corner: Image

That was a flashback, back when Granny Smith was young. Obviously it means that Equestria has shed itself of Illuminati influence in the decades between then and now. :twiright:
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:59 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:I love how the first question AJ gets asked during the MegaMareathon is if she'd rather be a unicorn or a Pegasus, man, earth pony racism even in the fanbase....that's just depressing man, :applejargh:


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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:01 am

@zamuel: if it's a thread about Earth Ponies being awesome then I say go for it! :flirt:

Also, so, this is interesting.......


http://www.equestriadaily.com/2014/08/j ... laims.html


....they're gonna make Buttons Adventures an official series of shorts....aren't they....*Not sure if want* :eyebrow:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:17 am

Turns out Hasbro wasn't even notified of the C&D, but the legal company they use shut it down simply because of how similar it was to the actual show


Huh, could this possibly mean that Hasbro isn't the puppy-kicking company that some people believe it to be? :-I
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Postby Bremen (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:27 am

Hasbro is a corporation, which means they're motivated by money. The executives may be noble to a greater or lesser degree, but at the end of the day they're legally obligated to protect their shareholders' investment.

However, as I kind of mentioned when it came up, the Jan Animations C&D doesn't really benefit Hasbro any. For corporations, the goodwill of their customers is a financial asset (it has a $ figure on their financial paperwork, literally), and the stuff was pretty much free advertising without any risk to their toy sales or trademarks. So it doesn't surprise me that this wasn't deliberate. Sometimes being motivated by money does work out.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:09 am

However, there is the issue that even though it's "advertisement", it still looks too close to the show. And if Jan would do something that would cause controversy, it could be possible that some people would blame Hasbro, thinking it's the real deal. So in that sense, I believe the takedown was entirely fair still.
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Postby Glazius (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:11 am

PaulloDEC wrote:Image

That's my contribution to the conversation.


...I still find it hilarious that the pig is hamboning.
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Postby Skipper (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:08 am

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Ugh, a friend of mine has become like this.

He used to be a really intelligent guy, but nowadays I can't visit him without being subjected to hours and hours of David fucking Icke explaining that we are all lizard-brained holograms (what) who collectively blew up the WTC under mind control of the Bilderberg Group. Or something.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:51 am

My parents believe in some of that stuff as well, though thankfully they're not that bad at all.

Anyway, those Buttons Adventures shorts sound like they can turn out good.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:37 pm

ShieldedDiamond wrote:However, there is the issue that even though it's "advertisement", it still looks too close to the show. And if Jan would do something that would cause controversy, it could be possible that some people would blame Hasbro, thinking it's the real deal. So in that sense, I believe the takedown was entirely fair still.

And even past controversial stuff, there's also the fact that Hasbro actually seems to care a fair amount about the story and setting of FiM and its other properties. Button's Adventures isn't too bad since it mostly features OCs (and don't try to tell me Button Mash isn't an OC), but I could see Hasbro asking Jan to not use Sweetie Belle in future videos or to keep any references to video games away from super-modern stuff like Minecraft being played on a laptop computer.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:41 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:And even past controversial stuff, there's also the fact that Hasbro actually seems to care a fair amount about the story and setting of FiM and its other properties. Button's Adventures isn't too bad since it mostly features OCs (and don't try to tell me Button Mash isn't an OC), but I could see Hasbro asking Jan to not use Sweetie Belle in future videos or to keep any references to video games away from super-modern stuff like Minecraft being played on a laptop computer.



^this, as Equestrian video games seem to be more around 80s arcade/ Atari level tech *if you wanna take the Adventure ponies games/commercial into account*. They deffinanlty need to stick to more retro stuff.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:18 pm

Yeah, it's kind of jarring to see something like Minecraft in Equestria.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:22 pm

If anyone is going to Boston Comic Con, and is willing to be sent money to buy & ship something, PM me! I reeeeaally want to get one of those Sisters prints Andy is only doing at SDCC/Bronycon/BCC, and they were sold out at Bronycon before I could snag one because I thought I could wait 6 hours :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:16 pm

Didn't Andy say that he would be selling some online after these cons?
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:13 pm

I'm looking but can't find anything one way or the other. Though the ones at the cons were numbered 1-100.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:15 pm

I'm really hoping Andy Price comes to NYCC this year again. I know Katie Cook is going to be there, but I didn't see Andy Price's name under "Comic Guests" yet.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 4:19 pm

I wonder if any of them will head to Galacon sometime in the near future... :ponder:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:51 pm

..... I'm scared of Derpy now. :v:

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:55 pm

...I could actually see her like that. :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:57 pm

Crossposting this from PPPP because I'm a huge nerd who thinks Internet cultures are cool and worth talking about:
Fizzbuzz wrote:While I was trying to find BABSCon attendance numbers earlier today, I found out that BABSCon invited a couple of furry podcasters to the convention so they could compare their fandom and ours. Their main impressions, as far as differences went, seemed to be:
  • We're way more centralized around a single subject; while this could be bad once the show ends, it also makes pony cons more accessible socially, as everybody shares a common interest in the show, but furry stuff is a bit too spread out for that
  • Furry con VIPs are generally prominent artists in their fandom, who are generally seen as very skilled but otherwise average people; our VIPs are the actors, writers, etc., and they're treated like rock stars
  • Artist's alleys at furry cons are apparently more like social areas where they gather and draw shit together, but at BABSCon it was more like a second area for artists to sell stuff; one of the podcasters was disappointed that he missed this
  • Speaking of art, theirs is mostly original characters (as opposed to characters from other pieces of media featuring talking cartoon animals), whereas we mainly deal in characters from the show
  • We have more original musicians, likely thanks to all the music in the show; music at furry cons seems to be largely whatever dance and electronica stuff that people want to mix together
Also, when the podcasters interviewed con attendees, right after asking that person's name they'd also always ask the name of his/her ponysona. I wonder if they assumed that the majority of us have one, and if that's the way it normally is amongst furries.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:17 pm

Everybody in the furry fandom has a furry name and chosen species, bar none.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:28 am

That's a pretty interesting comparison, considering how often people outside those fandoms lump them together as one and the same.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:40 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:That's a pretty interesting comparison, considering how often people outside those fandoms lump them together as one and the same.

Thing is, aside from those differences I outlined, the guys doing the podcast concluded that our and their conventions and fandoms are extremely similar, enough to where BABSCon and our other conventions could be seen as a "lite" furry con of sorts. Obviously it's one thing if an outsider who hates either us or furries is sticking them together so as to make both look bad, but hearing it from furries I think it's a really interesting viewpoint.
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Postby Seven Seas (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:35 am

Hmm. About the "furry con lite" phrasing... I've heard several furries argue what I think might be the hidden sentiment underneath that, which is that MLP fandom is a subset of furry fandom/that all bronies are actually furries who haven't accepted it/PYF variant of the above. It always struck me as obnoxious. I mean, fine, let's play along, let's put us through the two-question Furry Test to find out whether we qualify.
  1. Are we fans of anthro media? Well, ponies is animals what talk like we do, so by the dictionary definition of anthropomorphic, sure.
  2. Do we, as a fandom, self-identify as a subset of furries? No, and that means we're not a subset of furries, period. We fail one of the two criteria.
FWIW, though, I agree that the two fandoms are pretty similar!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:25 am

:pinkieshrug: Yeah, I never got that. By extension, anyone who enjoyed "The Lion King" is a furry.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:57 am

The Doctor wrote::pinkieshrug: Yeah, I never got that. By extension, anyone who enjoyed "The Lion King" is a furry.


Well, I'm sure furries would enjoy pointing that out to people. "See? You're one too!" But it doesn't really hold water.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:29 am

I think i am in need of a new avatar. I dont think i need Battle Scarred Fluttershy that im using now (thats not what its called, i made it off of a background i found on dev-art.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:52 am

Hmm...maybe you can go looking for other pictures of Fluttershy?
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:02 am

Definatly Fluttershy or Flufflepuff. Ill just have to wait till i see something i like. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Venusy (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:44 am

Headless Horse wrote:Everybody in the furry fandom has a furry name and chosen species, bar none.

I don't. :pinkieshrug: I'd wager a lot more furries have fursonas than bronies have ponysonas, but the numbers still aren't 100%. That's why I asked about how people came up with their fursonas - or at least, the species - the other day in the furry thread, because I don't have one and am interested how other people see me.

I would not call one fandom a subset of the other, but yes, bronies and furries are very similar in a lot of ways, the comparison has been made repeatedly before.
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I think there's a difference between "enjoying The Lion King" (which is arguably unrelated, but can be a gateway for some people) and "being part of The Lion King fandom". The latter isn't entirely a subset of being a furry, but if we were to ask how many people in that fandom are also a furry, I would imagine the percentage of furries being higher than it would be asking how many bronies are also furries.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:59 am

Venusy wrote:and am interested how other people see me.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:26 am

I see you as that Rarity on occasion but I remember your actual appearance more.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:46 pm

Sometimes I'm a furry....

.... But then I shave! *badumtush* :v:


In all seriousness though, while there is an obvious overlap, I don't think every fan is a furry, just like not every sonic fan is a furry. Some/many are, but not all.
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Postby Lorce (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:34 pm

Um, since the documentary thread is now locked and this is specifically about it... :-I

A Brony Tale won best documentary at the Las Vegas Film Festival.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:42 pm

Huh. I wonder what the other nominees were. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Lorce (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 2:54 pm

http://www.lvff.com/film-guide/ under documentary.

Seems to have been a pretty small thing, just thought it would still be worth mentioning here and then found the thread locked. ^^
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Postby RainbowDoubleDash (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:07 pm

Brony one is the only one that doesn't feel "artsy." For that matter it looks like it's the only one that didn't take itself too seriously. I wonder if that helped...or, maybe there were just a lot of bronies on the panel of judges.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:12 pm

Yeah, maybe it just managed to click for the audience there.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:46 pm

In the newspaper comic dept, August 4's "Brevity" by Dan Thompson

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Yes, this ran in newspapers. The only thing I would change is to switch the dialogues with AJ and RD. I imagine Dash would be the one hurt most by betrayal, since she's the loyal one.
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Postby RainbowDoubleDash (?) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 7:50 pm

Mr. Big wrote:Yes, this ran in newspapers.


I don't fully get it. Like, I get that LeBron James is leaving one team for another, I just don't understand what pony has to do with it.
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