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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:55 am

Headless Horse wrote:I don't hold it to the same standard as I hold other shows, and I don't hold other shows to the same standards as Pony. They're completely different things as far as I'm concerned. And while I might lose interest in this or that TV series or other form of media due to a dip in quality or a shift in focus or some completely unrelated personal reason, I'm staying on this crazy train for as long as there's a meta-narrative left for it to tell.

While I agree, it's fine to be frustrated with the show if it's not impressing you anymore. It's okay to hold it to a high standard, and to be disappointed. Shows change over time, and not always for the better.

But eventually, if every episode is ruined for you by one aspect not living up to expectations, maybe it's time to set the show aside instead of obsessing over what could have been.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:27 am

My feelings on the topic is that it's fine to be disappointed with a episode but if every episode is getting the same negative reaction, perhaps it's time for the person in question to stop watching.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:32 pm

So, following up on Warch Dogs talk. How about that Mario Kart. :v:

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:42 pm

Those Luigi videos and pictures just keep getting funnier. It's amazing how well they're holding up...
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:53 pm

The Doctor wrote:So, following up on Warch Dogs talk. How about that Mario Kart. :v:

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That Luigi image at the end makes it. :lol:
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Postby LardLad3545 (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:35 am

Headless Horse wrote:This here needs a whole bunch of emptyquotin'.

Pony isn't in competition with some other thing in my life. It isn't vying for supremacy with a slate of other shows against which I constantly compare its writing and its drama or whatever. It's a phenomenon I keep up with because it's fun, and because it makes me giddy to see My Little Pony—the butt of jokes, the archetype of ho-hum 80s kid stuff, the gold standard of "blah" to which contemporary "blah" is habitually compared—suddenly being fun and immersive and well-put-together by people who saw that it could be more than a cheap 80s time-filler if only someone bothered to care.

I don't hold it to the same standard as I hold other shows, and I don't hold other shows to the same standards as Pony. They're completely different things as far as I'm concerned. And while I might lose interest in this or that TV series or other form of media due to a dip in quality or a shift in focus or some completely unrelated personal reason, I'm staying on this crazy train for as long as there's a meta-narrative left for it to tell.

Yeppers, I'm going to empty quote this too. What? ... I can't do that? There's rules here? Gah, fine, I'll type words then.

Both of you are getting a big ol' ball of yes from me on this. If I were ever to describe MLP and how it relates to me, it would get put into my list of hobbies, not the list of shows that I watch. It just feels different to me. I kind of view it as an experience instead of a piece of media to be scrutinized. Though, in my opinion, it also holds up well against that... most of the time. I'm still on this pony train because it's -still- different than anything else that I do. Also, like Headless Horse, I'm on this train ride until the media flow stops.

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Also, I like watching some of the Brony Reacts videos because they bring up humor or plot details that I might not have noticed.

Agreed, though I like to view that stumbling around as being kind of realistic in a weird way. In real life, how many times does huge change come around and we handle it like pros? :-P Also agreed on the finale. Loved it, but the box/keys/rainbow power was a little anticlimactic. Whatever. Even in the best of shows, things don't always make sense. Breaking Bad comes to mind. (Hid this just in case somebody reading this is late to the party like I was)
Honestly, what are the odds that one distracted traffic control operator would cause two planes to crash in the air. Air is gigantic. Those odds are astronomically low. Didn't care though. Badass episode for a badass show.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:12 am

I've never seen that much of Breaking Bad but isn't that air traffic controller played by John DeLancie?
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Postby LardLad3545 (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:26 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:I've never seen that much of Breaking Bad but isn't that air traffic controller played by John DeLancie?

Yes! I wasn't expecting it at the time, so it was the biggest badass surprise ever. :awesomedash:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:33 am

I only know that fact because of the Internet putting it everywhere. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:29 am

Mr. Big wrote:Chris Savino, who wrote "Boast Busters" and "The Stare Master" all the way back in season 1, will have a new show on Nickelodeon, called "The Loud House", about a boy and his 10 sisters.

Read about it here.

Looks pretty cool! :-) :awesomedash:



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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:25 am

LardLad3545 wrote:
Honestly, what are the odds that one distracted traffic control operator would cause two planes to crash in the air. Air is gigantic. Those odds are astronomically low. Didn't care though. Badass episode for a badass show.


You would be surpised. There are a number of air crashes caused by one air traffic controler not doing his job. For instance, A Saudi and Kazakh (i think) aircraft collided when an ATC gave the Kazakh clearance to change alltitude while not informing the Saudi of the change. Air is gigantic, but aircraft operate on set routes in the air, similarly to highways on the ground. So the scenario in Breaking Bad isn't that implausable at all.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:38 am

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You would be surpised. There are a number of air crashes caused by one air traffic controler not doing his job. For instance, A Saudi and Kazakh (i think) aircraft collided when an ATC gave the Kazakh clearance to change alltitude while not informing the Saudi of the change. Air is gigantic, but aircraft operate on set routes in the air, similarly to highways on the ground. So the scenario in Breaking Bad isn't that implausable at all.


Not only that, but narratively it's playing on the general vague public understanding that ATC operators have to be really on the ball and completely stable individuals. If they're not 100% together, like if they're preoccupied by disturbing shit at home, bad things can happen and the governing body has to notice these things and step in before someone crashes a couple of heavies. People have the abstract idea that ATCs have to be under constant psychological scrutiny in the same way that they vaguely know the authorities get all antsy about people having cell phones on during takeoff/landing; but the show saw an opportunity there to take that foggy public understanding of the job and turn it into a starkly real reminder of what the stakes are.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:20 pm

Headless Horse wrote:
Not only that, but narratively it's playing on the general vague public understanding that ATC operators have to be really on the ball and completely stable individuals. If they're not 100% together, like if they're preoccupied by disturbing shit at home, bad things can happen and the governing body has to notice these things and step in before someone crashes a couple of heavies. People have the abstract idea that ATCs have to be under constant psychological scrutiny in the same way that they vaguely know the authorities get all antsy about people having cell phones on during takeoff/landing; but the show saw an opportunity there to take that foggy public understanding of the job and turn it into a starkly real reminder of what the stakes are.


This mindset assumes, however, you aren't a massive idiot and you actually have even heard of an ATC once in your entire life. :v:
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:34 pm

Not to mention that commercial aircraft are required to have TCAS, a system designed to avoid mid-air collisions if ATC is out of service or makes a mistake.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:51 pm

If you want to hear JDL himself talk about that role as well as MLP, Star Trek, and a bunch of other stuff, go listen to his Nerdist Podcast episode.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:03 pm

I did not know of that podcast and now I might be hooked on them. They really get the best out of their guests.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:08 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:I did not know of that podcast and now I might be hooked on them. They really get the best out of their guests.

My absolute favorite Nerdist episode ever was with Thomas Dolby. Before listening, I was like "oh cool, the guy that did She Blinded Me With Science and those Gate to the Mind's Eye videos. This should be interesting." But I was absolutely blown away by how much of a pioneer in the music synth industry he was, and more than just his solo career, he played synths on a ton of popular artists' tracks, and he invented the Nokia tone. :shocktavia:

I think why The Nerdist works so well is it's not really an interview as much as it is a conversation, which I think is why they get so much out of their guests.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:13 pm

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:17 pm

Hooray! It's good to see Hasbro acknowledge his character like this...I wonder if they'll ma any special bumpers for the marathon.
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Postby Frith (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:39 pm


If I remember correctly this is the second Spike-A-Thon on the Hub. The first Spike-A-Thon was shown in early 2012 if I'm not terribly wrong.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:41 pm

Frith wrote:If I remember correctly this is the second Spike-A-Thon on the Hub. The first Spike-A-Thon was shown in early 2012 if I'm not terribly wrong.


There was a Year of the Dragon thing for him awhile back, but I think there were only 2 Spike episodes to air at the time.

They also showed a bunch of silhouettes of ponies wielding feudal Japan arms and armor, if I recall correctly.
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Postby Frith (?) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:05 pm

Yeah, I found the promo of the first Spike-A-Thon and now I remember that I watched it. The Hub actually showed 4 episodes.

That promo actually brings back some pleasant memories. Back then I was really excited about everything MLP-related, because I had found the show few months earlier. Unfortunately that enthusiasm is now mostly gone. I'm still excited about the show but I have lost my interest in fandom-related things, excluding the meetups.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:02 am

I liked the "dragon who needs no training" line in the promo. :spike101:

:-/ That's what they think.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:51 am

:pcstare: San Diego Comicon is coming up. The Transfomers fans have been complaining we put too much effort into the ponies these last few years.

:-I So what do we do?

:dwi: Same thing we do with ponies. ROCK!

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:02 am

"YOU GOT THE TOUCH, YOU GOT THE POWER!! " :dwi:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 4:06 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:"YOU GOT THE TOUCH, YOU GOT THE POWER!! " :dwi:


:speakest: Saying those words without linking the music video's is a capitol offense.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:39 am

Damn, those Transformers look really awesome. :allears:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:59 am

It feels about as ridiculous as the current EqG stuff, I guess. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:33 am

So apparently, the new issue of the Spanish MLP magazine comes out on June 26th. I'll try to get it so I can try and do a review of it...only problem is, I haven't seen it by any local kiosks.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:12 pm

If you could get that and review it, that'd be really great, thank you! :)
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:17 pm

I'll try to see if any of the kiosks here or in Benidorm offer it. If not, I'm sure people will upload images of it like they did the last two. Really, what I'm interested in is the children's drawing page...that is usually so adorable. :allears:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:58 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:My feelings on the topic is that it's fine to be disappointed with a episode but if every episode is getting the same negative reaction, perhaps it's time for the person in question to stop watching.


@Robot. Can I use this post in my sig!?
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:42 pm

Hell with that, put it in the rules. :-I
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:54 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Hell with that, put it in the rules. :-I

Yes. Rules Rules Rules :twonk:
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:47 am

It would appear that our good friend ROBOT B9 has discovered one of the ancient and universal Rules of Life. :-D
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:02 am

I'd like to see episodes set outside of Equestria and learn about new places. How do other nations outside of Equestria function? That would be interesting.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:18 am

I'd really like to know how the Griffons act towards Celestia and company. I mean, we don't see a "griffon king", but they also don't seem to be all that connected to the ponies of Equestria, so I doubt they follow the rules of Celestia.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:22 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I'd really like to know how the Griffons act towards Celestia and company. I mean, we don't see a "griffon king", but they also don't seem to be all that connected to the ponies of Equestria, so I doubt they follow the rules of Celestia.



The griffons are an Autonomous Collective! :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:22 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I'd really like to know how the Griffons act towards Celestia and company. I mean, we don't see a "griffon king", but they also don't seem to be all that connected to the ponies of Equestria, so I doubt they follow the rules of Celestia.



Given that they're allowed to compete in the Equestrian Games, it suggests that the Griffon Kingdom is part of the whole of Equestria. Kind of like how the Crystal Empire, despite the name, is part of Equestria.

Also, she's powerful enough to raise the Sun and the Moon. My guess is they show the proper respect.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:54 am

I'd like to imagine that the Griffins are like the dwarves from LOTR and The Hobbit. I don't know why I think that but it seems cool.

Also, I would be more than happy if you use that post in your signatures or even the rules. If that gets in the rules, I might literally jump for joy.
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