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Re: Equestria Girls 2: RAINBOW ROCKS (shorts + movie, Fall 2

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:09 am

Honestly this clip makes me wonder if they'll do with Sunset, what I thought they might do with Luna back when I was new to the fanbase between season 1 & 2.... That is to say, I could still see her struggling with her inner demons & insecurities to a degree. I could even see the Dazzlings using their powers to take advantage of that temporarily turning Sunset against the hu-mane six again.

Only to be saved by Fluttershy, because as we all know Fluttershy is a master at befriending villians.

And Sunset could be to the Dazzles what Discord was to Tirek, a semi-reformed patsy to manipulate.
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Postby Grue (?) » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:38 pm

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Damn, that's kawaii. I'm liking the amount of Sunset Shimmer in the preview clips and her implied plot significance, this is way more than I expected.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:09 pm

While I haven't seen the video, I actually kinda like how Nicole Oliver's principal Celestia doesn't sound like Princess Celestia. In fact, I would be interested to see all if not most of the cast giving their EqG characters a different sound because other than Princess Celestia and maybe vice principal Luna... Everyone.sounds.exactly.the.same.

I dunno, I wish they'd make the EqG universe more unique than 99% copy-pasted from FiM :pinkieshrug:

Edit: More unique in terms of characters though even then why is Applejack's home styled after a barn in a city :hilarious:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 1:26 am

First preview is now Avalible in Spanish.
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Postby ponygals (?) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:52 am

Uh we've seen this video already.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:06 pm

Yes, I know that dear, but this one is in Spanish as opposed to English, so I felt it was worth reporting just incasw anyone wanted it.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:50 pm

Third Preview Clip is out... So basically the whil movie will be spoiled before it even hits Theatres at this point. Not as good as the first two, but still decent.

But man human flash is creepy!!

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:53 am

Rainbow Dash seems like she's a 20% bigger jerk in that clip. :rainbert:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:59 am

Human Dash seems to be In Season 1/ early season 2 pony dash mentality. Makes sense though, as these characters are developing at a different pace then their pony counterparts.

And yeah, not gonna lie, at this point I feel the Dazzlings & Sunsets subplot of proving she's reformed will be more entertaining then anything the hu-mane six or Brad do.

Also who wants to bet Fluttershy's song will tie into Sunset's storyline. *bet it's a song about forgiveness.*


And on a final note, I do like how they finally addressed the whole musical transformation thing.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:02 am

And then Flash was never seen again for the rest of the movie. :-I

Seriously, I hope he doesn't show up much again, I don't think there's anything that could be done to redeem how bland his character was in the first film, and with the clip, it looks like not much has changed.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:03 am

This is like "Lampshading: The Movie".

It's like, every single ridiculous stretch we've been asked to swallow, they're tackling head-on and putting front-and-center. I'm all for self-aware twisting of tropes, but all this doubling-down on the goofiness of the premise is kind of on a level I've never even seen before. They're just milking and milking the idea of staring hard at Sunset Shimmer's turn as a world-ending villain and Twilight's incursion from a strange horse dimension and, rather than just sort of tiptoeing past them and hoping nobody notices their fantastical implausibility, making the psychological fallout of those things into the plot. And that's something I've never seen anyone really try to do before, certainly not to this degree.

I'm half-expecting them next to start commenting on how they're all the same animation model and have really funky skin colors and since when do they play instruments anyway, especially instruments that look an awful lot like toy accessories?



:-I "Yup, we know Flash was a terrible one-dimensional character. So let's make him even more aggressively one-dimensional this time! To the point where you can't possibly not get that it's intentional! Wink wink!"
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:04 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Human Dash seems to be In Season 1/ early season 2 pony dash mentality.


The only redeeming quality of that clip :v:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:05 am

Yeah, this clip was stupid in every way, if only because it's trying to highlight everything stupid and say it's ok. I was like, what.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:11 am

Headless Horse wrote:This is like "Lampshading: The Movie".

Yeah, between Flash and Shimmer and the magic ears, it's an odd mix.

It's that sort of awareness that went a long way to winning me over in the early episodes of FiM, but they were also confident enough in the setting to just let ponies be ponies most of the time. Since Equestria Girls is probably guaranteed to stick around for several more years, I hope they eventually get to a point where they feel comfortable with their new dynamic.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:22 am

Wayoshi wrote:Yeah, this clip was stupid in every way, if only because it's trying to highlight everything stupid and say it's ok. I was like, what.



I agree it's the weakest of the previews so far, but I wouldn't call it stupid. It may be mostly lampshading and exposition, but it serves it's purpose well enough.

I will say, it does have me abit shakey agian though, the shorts & other preview clips really made it seem the spin-off had grown into itself. But this clip makes it seem like the show staff still aren't 100% confident/sure in their work in regards to this spin-off and that awkwardness in the first one is still there to a degree.

I still think this movie will be an improvement over the first. But I feel The Dazzlings, Sunset Shimmer & potentially hearing popular supporting/BG chars human version talk/sing *Octavia's toy seems to imply she might have a song and I'm guessing Trixie might as well* will be the mane draw/reason to see it over whatever antics the hu-mane six partake in. Which is kind of depressing, but then again it's not like I'm a stranger to watching cartoons/anime for their supporting cast or villians over the main cast. :gotcha:

Edit: Also, I'm sorry Dash, but compared to the Dazzlings songs, your bands songs are pretty weak. :-/
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Postby InsertAuthorHere (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 5:43 am

The clip is dumb, but considering how every other clip of the movie has looked at least decent, I'm still cautiously optimistic.

Headless Horse wrote:They're just milking and milking the idea of staring hard at Sunset Shimmer's turn as a world-ending villain and Twilight's incursion from a strange horse dimension and, rather than just sort of tiptoeing past them and hoping nobody notices their fantastical implausibility, making the psychological fallout of those things into the plot. And that's something I've never seen anyone really try to do before, certainly not to this degree.


That's actually one of the things that is making me look forward to this a bit. And to be fair, they did try tiptoeing past things in the first movie, and it didn't work.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:07 am

It may "serve its purpose well enough", but said purpose is stupid. I refuse to let all the boring, lazy writing of EqG1 be lampshaded. In particular, that non-existent relationship between SS and Flash was brought up again. Not only was it non-existent canonically (which was obvious), we still have never seen a second of it and we never will. It was always an extraneous, awkward plot point that went nowhere, why did it need to be brought up again?

And don't get me started on actually addressing the elephant in the room, the magical pony ears & tails. I honestly was nearly shocked to hear off-hand comments on this. They're actually going to try to explain that shit with "because the magic of friendship is existent across dimensions, even in CHS [the real world, kids, the real world!]?" I think I would have rather it continue to be ignored over that! :applejargh:
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:40 am

I agree this is the weakest preview so far.
Though, in a few minutes, it does recap all the relevant plot points from the prequel, and establish most of those for this movie, so I guess it's cool that it's all out of the way from then on.
(and awkward Flash was funny, but the boyfriend talk that followed was pretty lame)

At least there might be some sort of conflict among the Mane 5 concerning Rainbow Dash's attitude, I was afraid they'd be just background props while Twilight and Sunset dealt with the villains.
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Postby Grue (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:01 pm

I just realized that the new girls Sunset is supposed to show around are the Dazzlings.

Also, yes, inter-band conflict. The mane 6 have been buddy-buddy with each other for too long. And of course it's Rainbow Dash's ego that will ruin everything.

EDIT: also a love triangle between SSh, Brad and Twilight. It's happening. :gotcha:
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Postby beau (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:08 pm

The previews have gotten me to like Sunset Shimmer, that is all.
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Postby Grue (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:19 pm

beau wrote:The previews have gotten me to like Sunset Shimmer, that is all.


That has been the plan all along :excellent:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 12:30 pm

Yeah. Sunny is pretty adorable now. :allears:


Although I think it's sad they still feel the need to push Flash on the audiance. I'm fine with FIM potentially developing his pony counterpart, but at this point I think the human version is beyond the point of redemption of being able to become an interesting character.


Also, gonna make a psychic prediction that will probably be wrong, I bet the next Preview clip will be either about the CMC, Trixie, or show us what Deus Ex Machina spell Sunset uses to bring Twy back.

Seriously this entire movie is gonna be spoiled before it hits theatres on the 27th. :gotcha:
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Postby InsertAuthorHere (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:14 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote: Seriously this entire movie is gonna be spoiled before it hits theatres on the 27th. :gotcha:


Well, they tend to spoil entire episodes before they air; why not the made-for-DVD-but-getting-a-theatrical-release-anyway movie?

beau wrote:The previews have gotten me to like Sunset Shimmer, that is all.


I'm kind of wondering if this is going to go the route of the other villain redemptions in the franchise. The redemption itself is rushed, contrived, and artificial, and leaves the audience with a bad taste in their mouths, but the character's appearances after that actually show more realistic character development over a sudden turn to goodness. Trixie got a thirty-second scene at the end of an episode where she enslaved Ponyville because she used a mind-warping amulet to get misdirected revenge; she shows up in the comics still as loudmouthed and egotistical as ever, but is at least willing to ask for help and is trying to fight back against her negative reputation. Discord's redemption was awful, but he was still a jerk through and through, even if he wasn't trying to conquer Equestria. Not saying that the movie will go this route, but I am liking Sunset more as a character from this clips, whereas I only used to like her as a concept.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'll be leaving this thread until the movie comes out. Less than a month to go...
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 1:22 pm

Fair enough, this series & it's spoilers though, I swear, I guess ponies are just bad at keeping secrets! :v:


And personally, I've always felt the actions after the redemption/reformation are more important then the actual or implied action anyway. I agree Sunset will be most likely be more interesting here then in the first film. I'm just kind of sad they feel EQG has to have a Twilight, why can't Sunset just be the Human worlds Twy!? I mean let's face it even if this is pony Twys last visit to the human world, they'll shove the actual human world Twy in eventually somehow *Equestria Academy perhaps*, and like human Flash she'll just be extra baggage.


And sadly I doubt the human versions of the mane six will ever be as interesting as their pony counterparts. Really the EQG original chars like Sunny & The Dazzlings are much more interesting characters, a shame they'll probably just end up supporting cast if/when EQA comes out.


That said though , I do hope we learn more about the human versions of the chars in this film, and EQA.

EDIT: Another thing that bothers me, the song in this clip has a Sonic Underground vibe to me for some reason, it's not horrid. But compared to the other songs specially the villian songs it just feels genaric & kind of lazy.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 7:39 pm

I agree that the clip is dumb, but I don't think it foreshadows what everything else will be like, because as said, the others have been enjoyable so far.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 8:45 pm

Yeah, and it's not even a completly horrid scene, it just tries to fit too much into such limited space. That is to say there are parts that work and don't work.

Sunset talking about how she feels she'll never be able to live down/ make up for her past mistakes, that works.

Pinkie' s very Pinkie style reply, that works.

Dash being a cocky jerk, that works!

However...

The song, even with the brief set-up feels shoe-horned in, as does Flash Sentry's appearance.

As for the lampshading & exposition. That's nesseccary to a degree, but I agree they go to far here. They could have just as easily waited till near the end of the film to bring up the musical magical pony girl transformations, that is to say, all they really needed was a scene later in the film asking Twilight why it happened, and leave it at that. *although given the first preview clip we got, I guess it's safe to say it's just lingering magic left by the release of the EOH Deus-Ex-Machina Rainbow in the first film, or something like that*

But yea, it's not a terrible clip, just the weakest compared to what we've seen So far, it doesn't make me any less excited to see Rainbow Rocks overal. But at the same time it doesn't really make me find the human counterparts of the mane six any more interesting then they were the first go around.

I do love the lil picture montage though. Anyone else notice Big Mac was carrying AB's Backpack for her, he really is a good brother...or maybe that was his bag, if he works at the school, guess he probably has to lug one around with him....either way it's a cute lil scene, as was Trixie's Photo Bomb at the end.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:05 pm

I'm wondering if all the little digs Rainbow takes at the others is a hint that the six of them will be sucked into this "battle" mentality and lose sight of their friendship until Sunset and/or Twilight bring reunite them. That might be a little too much to stuff into an hour-long movie, though.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:08 pm

So Flash is back eh? And he's looking for Twilight?

:excellent:

I'm already enjoying the rage going on in the EqD article (seriously I got the biggest grin on my face when he appeared).

Sunset is going to be cute this time. And I think...

She will be the one who goes through the mirror to get Twilight.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Aug 30, 2014 9:14 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:I'm wondering if all the little digs Rainbow takes at the others is a hint that the six of them will be sucked into this "battle" mentality and lose sight of their friendship until Sunset and/or Twilight bring reunite them. That might be a little too much to stuff into an hour-long movie, though.



I could see the Dazzles Dark Magic eventually effecting them to some degree, as well as effecting Sunset, Flash & maybe even Twilight. I feel, if Fluttershy is anything like her pony counterpart, she may be the only one uneffected, and it may be her song mentioned at the end of this clip that saves the day. Or at least snaps Sunset, Twy & the rest of the Hu-Mane six back to their senses so they can defeat the Dazzles.


@Wildfire: Sunset Shimmer, Sonata Dusk & Fluttershy will kill all those that view this film with their unbridled cuteness! :gotcha: :v:
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun Aug 31, 2014 12:17 am

So I don't hate Flash.

Like, to be clear, I don't LIKE him, he's far from anywhere near my favorite character, but like, I never got the hate he got. The clip was fine, not the best, but it was decent showing the general premise of the movie and showing that Sunset was still seen as a total psycho to most but she's working on it.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:12 am

Hatred for a cartoon character is dumb, but the general distaste for him is simply because he was being positioned as a Ken doll with a leather jacket and a guitar and a winning smile who sweeps Twilight off her feet without actually having a personality.

But... then that went nowhere. I'm actually more worried now that he's still around but doesn't seem to have grown a personality.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Aug 31, 2014 2:07 am

I'm hoping he'll end up in the same boat as Spike, that is to say his affection will forever be one sided.

:-/ seriously Flash, I'm flattered, and you're a cute guy...but you do realize I'm a magical talking pony, right!? On top of that, there's a Flash in my world that's a pony too, so, yea, if I ever do feel like dating probably gonna go with him. Just sayin. But hey, look on the brightside, Sunset's Avalible! She's a pony too, so if that's your thing...just, go get er stud!
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:36 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:I'm actually more worried now that he's still around but doesn't seem to have grown a personality.


That's the issue, if he doesn't have much of a role in this film, (as he had little role in Equestria Girls), then he's unlikely to get any development even later on.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:57 pm

I posted about this in the soundtrack thread earlier. Honestly not suprised, it's not uncommon for movie soundtracks to come out before the actual film. And hey Hasbro has already shown they don't care about the songs in FIM/EQG being spoiled before hand. :p
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:00 pm

I doubt any major revelations for the story will be in the music anyway, as SoundMonkey said, releasing the soundtrack prior to the film is pretty common. In fact, there are studies that say you enjoy the music the second time around, more than the first.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:22 am

Yea it's something like the first time you hear it you're more focused on 'absorbing' it or something but the second time you've already got a grip on it and can just kinda chill and enjoy it.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 9:57 pm

Oh hey, a new preview



It's great, Dazzlings best villains.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:53 pm

Oooh, they're That kind of "off". :amazing:
(Sonata is best Dazzling)

So we have now reached the first Trailer in terms of story, we've seen almost the first 15 minutes of the movie; if I weren't familiar with the series, I'd think Sunset is the main character, which is really cool.

Now would be a good time to stop watching previews, as anything else that is released is going to be from further on, but I doubt I'll have the willpower to do so... maybe just one more. :eep:
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:10 pm

"You'll have to excuse them. They're idiots".
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