S04E14: Filli Vanilli

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Re: S04E14: Filli Vanilli

Postby Just Scuds (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:51 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:From HUB Twitter. Looks like Zecora is in this ep
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:nuhuh: :"I don't think I could sing in front of Fluttershy."
:yay: : "That's okay, Angel, I'm not asking you to!"
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:24 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:I wonder if there's going to be guest voices for the Ponytones or not. It'd be a neat little surprise.

If there were, I think we would have heard about it by now. Remember how early Weird Al got promoted before Pinkie Pride aired.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:27 pm

I'm hoping for a Hey Ocean! cameo one of these days, but I doubt this'll be it.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:28 pm

Maybe they're not as well known as Weird Al. I don't know if Return Of Harmony advertised John DeLancie. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:36 pm

Nope. No. No promotion. :v:

His appearance on the show just was.
And this is, like, before the fandom was a thing.


Like - IIRC Sibsy had to confirm it. :gotcha:
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:37 pm

Go dig up the thread from the Gem Mine. We were all going "Hey, that sounds like John de Lancie" when we saw the Wired clip, and then everyone goes "Wait, that IS John de Lancie!" The article didn't even mention John.

One of the purest of :ponydrugs: moments.
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Postby Ransom (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:38 pm

kefkafloyd wrote:Go dig up the thread from the Gem Mine. We were all going "Hey, that sounds like John de Lancie" when we saw the Wired clip, and then everyone goes "Wait, that IS John de Lancie!" The article didn't even mention John.

One of the purest of :ponydrugs: moments.

I remember that. It was amazing.

And then John DeLancie was completely blindsided with emails from Bronies :gotcha:

The funny thing was as I recall (I don't have the interview handy), he had done voice over work for the show several months prior and had completely forgotten he had done it and was completely unaware of the show's male fanbase. His wife had to help him remember doing it.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:54 pm

Well wouldn't de Lancie have done the recording likely in late 2010 before there was much of a fan base? At the time isn't it likely he was cast more as a joke for the show staff than people watching.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:21 pm

And now it's one of his regular gigs :iamapony:
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:41 pm

Headless Horse wrote:And now it's one of his regular gigs :iamapony:

"First Star Trek, now My Little Pony. Why me?" :gotcha:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:47 pm

de Lancie's participation at pony cons and the documentary makes me think he is genuinely fascinated by seeing a fandom spring up from ground level. With Trek, he came on board 20 years after the original into an already established fandom. With Pony he got in on (close enough) to the ground floor.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:47 am

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=81 ... =2&theater

Dat meta joke

Meanwhile, it seems Rarity has another :vogue: hobby.

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Postby Ransom (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:58 am

Wayoshi wrote:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=812057665478339&set=vb.118429394841173&type=2&theater

Dat meta joke

Meanwhile, it seems Rarity has another :vogue: hobby.

Wait a minute...

So she has to replace Big Mac? And she's going to Zecora's? Put the pieces together folks, Flutterguy is incoming! :gotcha:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:59 am

Aw, I wanted to hear Mac sing. :eenope:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:15 am

Ransom wrote:Wait a minute...

So she has to replace Big Mac? And she's going to Zecora's? Put the pieces together folks, Flutterguy is incoming! :gotcha:

You know... what else could Zecora + "drastic measures to ensure the show goes on", given Big Mac is the one to be replaced, possibly mean?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:22 am

Okay, the Ponytones being a slapdash group organized for one event makes a lot more sense than what I'd been imagining. After Hurricane Fluttershy, the idea of her performing here actually seems somewhat plausible.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:29 am

I get the feeling it's a hobby group, not just for one event, but we'll see. Also, a fundraiser was mentioned - Fluts might have an animal-related investment here
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:35 am

Pinkie Pie is best Turkey caller, :-P


But yeah, fun clip, wonder if we'll learn the other two ponies names.

I am looking forward to this episode more then I was before now. :allears:
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:44 am

Poor Big Mac... Still no solo lyrics for him. :gotcha:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:32 am

Wayoshi wrote:I get the feeling it's a hobby group, not just for one event, but we'll see. Also, a fundraiser was mentioned - Fluts might have an animal-related investment here

I would've thought that myself, but given that Rarity and Big Mac are both involved... Rarity, I can buy. Given her active social life, I would expect her to be involved in lots of various gatherings around Ponyville, and it definitely seems like she has some fair talent at singing (being Sweetie Belle's sister has to count for something in that regard). But Big Mac? He's always been such a loner and so monotonous that it's hard to believe that he would be regularly involved in such a group. If he actually is a good singer and is comfortable with performing despite his shyness, maybe this episode will be contrasting him with Fluttershy.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:43 am

He probably is kind of an introvert, but monotonous? That might just be entirely the show, and in canon he isn't. It's something really interesting though, I wasn't expecting this at all.
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Postby HuffyTheMagicDragon (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 2:50 am

And I got all excited when I saw Big Mac in the thumbnail. Dammit, this "Big Mac never talks" joke can only go on for so long. :eenope:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:07 am

Wayoshi wrote:He probably is kind of an introvert, but monotonous? That might just be entirely the show, and in canon he isn't. It's something really interesting though, I wasn't expecting this at all.

That's sort of what I was getting at. None of us expect him to be a good singer since he's never shown it. Likewise, most ponies don't expect Fluttershy to be a good singer either, even though both we and her friends know she is.

Sudden thought: If this is a key episode, what are the odds that Big Mac and Fluttershy learn from each other, and he gives her this episode's key?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:10 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I would've thought that myself, but given that Rarity and Big Mac are both involved... Rarity, I can buy. Given her active social life, I would expect her to be involved in lots of various gatherings around Ponyville, and it definitely seems like she has some fair talent at singing (being Sweetie Belle's sister has to count for something in that regard). But Big Mac? He's always been such a loner and so monotonous that it's hard to believe that he would be regularly involved in such a group. If he actually is a good singer and is comfortable with performing despite his shyness, maybe this episode will be contrasting him with Fluttershy.


We've seen Big Mac socializing in town. Nightmare Night in the show, and of course his comic arc.

We see him talking normally in "Applebuck Season" and putting the CMC in their place in "Ponyville Confidential". As a result this no talking joke is wearing thin and just seems out of place. It would be like if that old show "Home Improvement" showed Wilson's face the first two seasons then went for the no face joke.

:offendash: LET THE MAN TALK!
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:10 am

Fluttershy's going to get her key from Angel, who's been holding on to it all season because he's a dick.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:11 am

So, this leads me to believe Flutterguy will return? I mean, because Fluttershy can't replace Big Mac's singing style (I would assume, due to their voices) on her own. :ponder:

Also, does this mean that the Ponytones aren't really a group, but just some ponies that got together for the sake of an event? Well, then I look forward to Dress Horse singing. :vogue:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:12 am

Mechanical Ape wrote:Fluttershy's going to get her key from Angel, who's been holding on to it all season because he's a dick.


Angel grabbed it from Discord back in KCAFO.

:modesty: Angel, we need that key to save Equestria from certain doom.

:nuhuh:

:glare: Now you little jerk.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 4:34 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I would've thought that myself, but given that Rarity and Big Mac are both involved... Rarity, I can buy. Given her active social life, I would expect her to be involved in lots of various gatherings around Ponyville, and it definitely seems like she has some fair talent at singing (being Sweetie Belle's sister has to count for something in that regard). But Big Mac? He's always been such a loner and so monotonous that it's hard to believe that he would be regularly involved in such a group. If he actually is a good singer and is comfortable with performing despite his shyness, maybe this episode will be contrasting him with Fluttershy.


Nah, my money's on this being an in media res intro scene where we learn that Big Mac has been singing like a canary for weeks, but suddenly has to stop conveniently one minute before the episode begins. Skydiving joke style. :cheese:
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Postby Chaos Sonic (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:46 am

The Doctor wrote: :rainbert: Point is RD can play the guitar.

I think "play" may be an exaggeration. :cheese: Sure, she may own a guitar, but my guess is that the extent of her playing abilities is the opening to Smoke on the Water. :lol:
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:00 am

Now that I think about it, I remember some time last year, in a random interview, a MLP staff member mentioned something like a "new Evil Enchantress song", guess he/she was refering to the return of Flutterguy. :awesomedash:
AKR did write Bridle Gossip after all.

Also, I bet the fund raising is for the Breezies.
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:37 am

I never cared much for the Flutterguy gag and I HATE meta jokes about Big Mac not talking, so I'm not liking where this is going so far. :fluttersmith:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:52 am

If they bring Flutterguy back, then they're really out of ideas.

And of course the writers just can't give up on their precious "Big Mac can't talk" jokes. Gotta run that shit into the ground, out the other side and into space.
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Postby Tears (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:45 am

I agree this sounds pretty horrific, but I think it's a little over the top to be getting all "death of the show" about it.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:39 pm

Tailspin wrote:If they bring Flutterguy back, then they're really out of ideas.

And of course the writers just can't give up on their precious "Big Mac can't talk" jokes. Gotta run that shit into the ground, out the other side and into space.



Because every show that reuses a joke from a past season is out of ideas. *Insert eye roll here*

I do agree though it sucks poor Big Mac never gets to talk.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:52 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Because every show that reuses a joke from a past season is out of ideas. *Insert eye roll here*


Reusing one shot jokes or characters is usually a sing of running out of ideas. MLP has so far reused Daring Do and Bulk Biceps (who was also a one shot joke).
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:00 pm

Tailspin wrote:
Reusing one shot jokes or characters is usually a sing of running out of ideas. MLP has so far reused Daring Do and Bulk Biceps (who was also a one shot joke).



That's different Re-using expanding on BG/Minor ponies is different then re-using Flutterguy voice. But yea, even if they do bring Flutturguy back for 1 ep it is hardly a sign the show is tuning out of ideas.

Man am I glad the show runners are more open minded about what a cartoon can do then it's fans are, otherwise it truly would be unwatchable by now.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:02 pm

No, it really isn't different.

When writers run out of ideas, they resort to reusing old stuff (usually reusing old jokes and "expanding" one-shot characters). MLP's writers are hardly the first to do this.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:07 pm

I find it less likely that they ran out of ideas and had to recycle Flutterguy out of necessity than they decided to bring it back because they liked it and thought it was funny.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:08 pm

Tailspin wrote:No, it really isn't different.

If you can't think up anything new, you then resort to reusing old stuff (usually jokes and one-shot characters). MLP's writers are hardly the first to do this.



Yeah, they're expanding on minor characters, so it really is. Flutterguy is an absolute 100%. Re-use of an old joke I agree, but legitimizing Daring & Bulks characters is a different thing entirely!

You know what I don't understand Tailspin, if all you're going to do is complain about how much the show sucks now, why watch it!? That would be like me watching every new ep of Family Guy or Oddparents and then getting online complaining how much the show sucks compared to the eps that aired in the first couple of seasons. I could do it. But it wouldn't help anyone. If I lose interest in a show, I stop watching it, I don't whine every time a new episode airs.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:10 pm

I watch it because the show still manages to entartain me and there are more good episodes then bad.

And i never once said or complained that the show "sucks now". But I will point out what I very much think is poor and lazy writing and season 4 has had several examples.
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