S04E15: Twilight Time

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Let's Re-Watch Week 38 : Twilight Time

Postby Dexanth (?) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:19 pm

Welcome to Week Thirty-Eight of Let's Re-Watch, where a random episode from the pony pantheon is chosen to be the episode of the week!

The basics :
1. Threads will go up on Thursdays! Re-watch day is Saturday. You can obviously join in sooner or later, but the first two days are more for reminiscing, while Saturday-Wednesday is for fresh eyes! Sometimes I put this up early on Friday cause it's still Thursday as far as I'm concerned. Yes yes, late again, I know!
2. Each week is a random episode. All episodes are now fair game, except repeats!
3. This is fun, and totally random - I literally roll the episode moments before making the thread. Two-parters are combined so technically have a double chance of being chosen but hey! More fun!
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In this episode, Sweetie Belle's dark experiments spawn a horde of child-zombies

Week Thirty-Eight is

Twilight Time!

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Twilight Time is the fifteenth episode of the fourth season of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic and the eightieth episode overall. In this episode, the Cutie Mark Crusaders begin taking advantage of Twilight Sparkle's fame as a Princess to become popular at school.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:47 pm

^ I remember burgertime with Twilight... cute Sweetie... that's about it. This ep didn't do much for me. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:51 pm

It was a enjoyable enough episode. I'm kind of with Wayoshi though. Few memorable scenes, but mostly just another episode. I did really enjoy teacher Twilight and hope we see more of that.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:53 pm

I really liked this one, especially given it came from Dave Polsky (whose name hasn't always been an encouraging one to see at the start of an episode). I thought it did a good job of finally giving some time to the whole "there's a Princess living in town now" thing, even if the answer was basically that only kids really give a crap. I loved the diner scene of course, which is just fantastic in a bunch of ways. I particularly enjoyed having Pinkie wander through for a few moments, only to disappear off to do her own thing soon after. Bits like that make the world feel alive, with the implication that yes, the other characters are off going about their days when we're not focussed on them.

I also really liked the bits with the CMC learning new skills. Fingers crossed those scenes are actually leading up to something.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:55 pm

How could you all forget about Sweetie Belle finally being able to do magic? While that's never been shown as abnormal (unlike Scootaloo still being flightless at her age), it still struck me as somewhat of a big deal.

PaulloDEC wrote:I loved the diner scene of course, which is just fantastic in a bunch of ways. I particularly enjoyed having Pinkie wander through for a few moments, only to disappear off to do her own thing soon after. Bits like that make the world feel alive, with the implication that yes, the other characters are off going about their days when we're not focussed on them.

Yeah, this is something I really loved about the episode as well. One reason I so hailed it back when it first aired is that it felt like it was one of the first times Twilight Sparkle had actually been treated like herself, instead of like a hero, since somewhere around the middle of S2. Instead of having to save the world from one of several villains or having wings stapled onto her butt, she got to be the knowledgable, bookish dork that she always was. This episode did a great job of showing what life is like for both her and the CMC now.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:16 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Yeah, this is something I really loved about the episode as well. One reason I so hailed it back when it first aired is that it felt like it was one of the first times Twilight Sparkle had actually been treated like herself, instead of like a hero, since somewhere around the middle of S2. Instead of having to save the world from one of several villains or having wings stapled onto her butt, she got to be the knowledgable, bookish dork that she always was. This episode did a great job of showing what life is like for both her and the CMC now.


Exactly. A lot of Twilight's screentime lately has been of the "move the plot forward" variety, so getting some scenes where she's just a guest in someone else's adventure is a really welcome treat.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 6:59 am

This was a good episode.

Also, all those burgers gotta go somewhere.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:32 am

Well, while everyone else here has said what I think of it, I really enjoyed this episode a lot as well. It really showed a different side of Twilight that I hope the show continues to bring up more often. Also, it gave some nice character development for the CMC and even showed that Sweetie Belle's getting better at her magic...can't wait to see more with this storyline as well.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:34 pm

Ranks in my top 5 of CMC eps.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:07 am

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"Now now, everypony! Demanding time with a princess as an unruly mob simply won't do!"


:amazed: :"I just got a chill up my spine. That line is pure Rarity. Are you absolutely sure you're not her sister?
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:16 pm

REWATCH TIME REWATCH TIME REWATCH TIME

This hung together better than I remember it doing. There are lots of little twists and turns of motivation in the story, subtleties that it's asking a lot of a young audience to keep up with. I didn't find it particularly clear what was going on at times. But in retrospect, at the end, even if details had seemed out of place at the time, the overall point made sense. The CMCs' conflicting desires—to do the right thing, to be popular, to get one over on DT and SS, and to learn new skills—all feel like they sprang naturally from their characters, and that's why the tension between all those motivations feels believable.

Also, as a bonus, there's little storytelling flourishes like how Twilight's easygoingness ended up defusing all their worry each time, until finally at the next-to-last one they kinda took it a little too much for granted that things were going to turn out okay after all, and it backfired so spectacularly that you find yourself wondering whether DT/SS had engineered the whole thing up to and including Pip blurting out the game-changer. (Probably not; probably they were genuinely on the short straw this time and only seized on the opportunity to take control back once the situation presented itself.)

Seeing the kids learning skills remains really neat, especially details like SB "throwing her neck out". I wasn't really on board with them apparently not having followed any instructions that Twilight had offered. I can understand them arrogantly thinking they ought to be able to just do stuff without any dusty old books' help; but if they're as concerned as they seem to be that they're not making any progress, you'd think they would be doing everything they can to maximize the benefit of being with Twilight and hanging on her every word. But then, we know these girls aren't necessarily paragons of clear thinking. (Randomly, I enjoyed how when Twilight told Scootaloo to look on the third shelf from the bottom, she immediately got on the ladder and poked through the top shelf. :P: )

I also kinda wish Twilight had demonstrated a bit more of her own prowess as a teacher here. She could have taught Scootaloo some principles of mechanics maybe, instead of just telling her to go get a book. And you'd think she would at least be really into giving Sweetie Belle some on-camera one-on-one coaching in magic, rather than listing off steps and saying to practice. Twilight ought to be a source of first-hand wisdom by this point, not just a librarian.

But still, more cohesion than I expected, and I got genuinely rather choked up during the apology scene with the flower. Polsky can write some good Pony when he keeps his "wide wide world of Equestrias" in check.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:03 pm

BTW--I don't know what recipe for lemonade they're using, but I don't think I want any. :-P

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:10 pm

Sweetie Belle's magic ability emerging and Twilight's burger scarfing are pretty much the highlights for me. :-I
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:00 am

Wiping her face with a burger and then eating it is definitely the biggest standout for me. :-I :twonk:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Fri Feb 06, 2015 8:08 am

Sweetie Belle: Oh, yeah?! Well, I don't have to go all the way to Manehattan to hang out with the famous and super-cool ponies! Me and my friends hang out with Princess Twilight all the time!
Diamond Tiara: D-did you say Princess Twilight?! You hang out with her all the time? For real?
Apple Bloom: More like just once a week.
Scootaloo: She helps us learn cool new stuff to do! That we actually do ourselves!
Diamond Tiara: You must bring me along next time you go!
Silver Spoon: Bring us along!
Diamond Tiara: I mean, we used to see her around town all the time, and I thought, "whatever"...*
Silver Spoon: Me too. I thought that.
Diamond Tiara: But now she's a princess, which makes her totally awesome!
Silver Spoon: Plus, she has wings.
Diamond Tiara: And she's an Alicorn.


I don't know about you, but I get the feeling that DT is just talking Twilight's princessdom up in order to start chiseling away at the CMC, and later to whip up the mob.

* :scheming: :"Twilight Sparkle? Pfft! Whatever!"
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