S06E16: 28 Pranks Later

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Re: S06E16: 28 Pranks Later

Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:51 pm

Huh so Rainbow Dash is the big villain this season, who knew?
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:52 pm

Dash did nothing wrong, I've laughed the hardest at this ep, easily.

Shit just got zombie real. Amazing.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:53 pm

Wayoshi wrote:At the expense of her best friend, who she knew not to prank in episode 5 of the series?

RD is being flanderized for the plot here. It is what it is.

On one hand, I kind of feel like not pranking Fluttershy because "she's too sensitive" is kind of infantalizing, especially with all the character development she's had since season 1.

On the other hand, using a prank that just involves scaring her, espeically scaring her with a dragon, her biggest known fear, is still a really dick move.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:02 pm

That was great. My lungs hurt from laughing.

"Hahahaha guess I learned my lesson...OR DID I? Naww, I'm sure I did...UNLESS I DIDN'T! Naww, I've learned to go easy on my pranks...BUT NOW I KNOW YOU ALL ARE AMAZING TARGETS AND I'LL HAVE TO TRY EVEN HARDER!"

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:04 pm

They got you good, Dash. :awkward:

This episode was fun, and the lesson taught to RD was done well. I also liked the cameos such as Big Mac and Cranky and Matilda, it was nice to see them be part of the prank right to the end. And of course, Celly getting pranked too.

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:04 pm

I didn't like that. Rainbow Dash has never been that big of a Jerk and the other ponies in the episode weren't much better.

I guess to put it over Mare Do Well, at least the others tried to talk to her.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:05 pm

As a half hour of turning your brain off, the episode was decent.

We know though this show can be a lot more nuanced and amazing than this.
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Postby Factory Factory (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:08 pm

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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:09 pm

Everypony turned into cookie monsters.
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I watched one of the previews that spoilered the grand reveal at the end so I had less of an emotional impact on the plot twist.
Even then it was fairly obvious. It was Mare-Do-Well done better and less ham-fisted. Solid 8/10, would watch again on Halloween.

I'd be funny if Rainbow Dash flew to Canterlot, took Celestia or Luna to help fight against the cookie zombie ponies. (I admit that would make it a bad episode).
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:09 pm

It was pretty obvious it was a prank as soon as you saw Pinkie sick in bed. The message was pretty much the same as Mare Do Well, but done in a much better way.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:10 pm

MMDW 2.0: "We think we got it this time."

The initial zombie sequences were pretty hard-core for the target market animation-wise. I bet this episode was a ton of fun to storyboard. The script and story were okay, but the real standouts here were the layouts (lots of ground-level looking up and overhead camera angles), storyboarding, and animation. Otherwise it's a decent mid-level episode for the season, but at least I found myself laughing out loud quite a bit so that was nice. The whoopee cushion was fucking hilarious because of the timing: the joke was LONG and the sound effect was super legit.

I would love to do an experiment where I go back in time about four or five years, maybe between S1 and S2, and show this episode to fans of the show while Gilda the Brush Off is still relatively fresh, just to show how much the show's changed yet is still the same great show they'd just fallen in love with and will (hopefully) continue to love half a decade later.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:12 pm

I will concede that Rainbow Dash teasing Fluttershy about being scared in the opening after her prank brought Fluttershy to tears was a bit below the bridle. :beggarshy:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:18 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:I will concede that Rainbow Dash teasing Fluttershy about being scared in the opening after her prank brought Fluttershy to tears was a bit below the bridle. :beggarshy:

:v: "You're too easy to scare anyway."
"You do know that scaring Fluttershy is just...lazy." :angry:


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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:23 pm

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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:25 pm

Congrats Zephyr, you're no longer the least sympathetic character this season.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:26 pm

Wayoshi wrote:At the expense of her best friend, who she knew not to prank in episode 5 of the series?


It was Pinkie who didn't want to prank Fluttershy back in GtBO. Dash was all for it.

Adelor Lyon wrote:I would love to do an experiment where I go back in time about four or five years, maybe between S1 and S2, and show this episode to fans of the show while Gilda the Brush Off is still relatively fresh, just to show how much the show's changed yet is still the same great show they'd just fallen in love with and will (hopefully) continue to love half a decade later.


I'll have to watch this one again later and see how it holds up. The zombie angle was executed pretty well, but I'm not sure how I feel about first-time writers this season doing so many episodes that feel very season 1-ish in their character development and structure.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:28 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:
It was Pinkie who didn't want to prank Fluttershy back in GtBO. Dash was all for it.



Well, that was a prank. It wasn't terrorizing Fluttershy using what Dash knows to be her greatest fear. That's just cruel, and even Dash isn't that dense.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:35 pm

Aramek wrote:"You do know that scaring Fluttershy is just...lazy."

I'm more than a little disappointed that Fluttershy didn't shout out "Hey!" at that line. That would've been hilarious.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:36 pm

You know, when an entire town comes together and helps you overcome a daunting hurdle like an exam to get into the organization of your dreams, there's only one appropriate way to repay them.

Shove bricks into their sandwiches and commit letter fraud.

Stay classy Rainbow. At least everyone is 100% justified in their retaliation.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:38 pm

I'll give Dash that a few of the pranks were funny.

The Cake Sewing Machine was great. Moving Aj's bed, and the letters.

Everything else was just stupid.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:40 pm

I wanna know how she moved AJ's bed :squintyjack:
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:43 pm

Harry the bear continues to be awesome though, so yeah plus on that.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:45 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Harry the bear continues to be awesome though, so yeah plus on that.


Harry was the best pony this episode.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:47 pm

DerFurShur wrote: At least everyone is 100% justified in their retaliation.

They were because it was funny. Just like Dash pranking them was funny.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:48 pm

Nah they were because Dash was a dick.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:51 pm

If they wanna rationalize their group prank they totally can! But they don't need to, because it was funny.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:55 pm

To be fair to Dash, Fluttershy has come a long way since season 1. Trying to prank her was still clearly in the wrong, but I don't think it necessarily represents Dash backsliding, especially after Scare Master.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 4:58 pm

So, like, where was Starlight Glimmer this whole episode? I mean, even if she was just in the background behind Twilight and Spike, throwing in an extra Bit to get her own box of cookies, that would've been great. C'mon, writers: Either she's just a plot-device that's "fleshed out" when it's convenient for the immediate story, or she's actually part of the cast. She lives in Twilight's castle after all, and given she ate disgusting muffins for who knows how many years one would think she's got a sweet tooth now. Making up for lost time and all.

Besides: how are kids going to beg their parents for toys of her if they forget she exists? :smugdash:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:02 pm

Adelor Lyon wrote:So, like, where was Starlight Glimmer this whole episode? I mean, even if she was just in the background behind Twilight and Spike, throwing in an extra Bit to get her own box of cookies, that would've been great. C'mon, writers: Either she's just a plot-device that's "fleshed out" when it's convenient for the immediate story, or she's actually part of the cast. She lives in Twilight's castle after all, and given she ate disgusting muffins for who knows how many years one would think she's got a sweet tooth now. Making up for lost time and all.

Besides: how are kids going to beg their parents for toys of her if they forget she exists? :smugdash:


:gotcha: She pulled the best prank of all this episode. She went back in time and replaced S6 Dash with S1 Dash.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:03 pm

That was a lovely, fun episode.

The Mysterious Mare Do Well is a personal favourite (easily a top three RD episode), and still one of the best portrayals of who and what RD is, and it is good to see the themes revisited, four seasons later. The writers really nailed it in the confrontation in the throne room with RD being affronted when AJ suggested that her pranks were too easy while she shrugged off the concept of caring about how other ponies might feel about them.

And then all the other ponies invoked the nuclear option → :-P

If ponies were ever to do zombies, this was the way to do it.

(It speaks volumes of Fluttershy’s development over the seasons, that she had the courage to call a convocation when she felt ill done by – she has really grown). :glare:
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:25 pm

Well that happened. :-I
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Postby LunarRainbow92 (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:50 pm

Hey Dashie got what she deserved! (I love Dash but pranking Fluttershy was a step too far)
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:55 pm

Whoopee cushion prank A+. All pranks A+.

Charaterization C-.
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:57 pm

Everybody has brought it up already, but there are a lot of Mare-Do-Well parallels. Luckily, this episode did do it better.

Arguably, pranking Fluttershy at the beginning is the only real problem I had. I really don't like that she forgot about that and exploited Fluttershy's fear of dragons. However, from intro theme on, it was a lot of fun.

Definitely a predictable conclusion, but I think it was handled very well, and developed a way better creepy tone than something like, say, "Castle Mane-ia". Plus, Pinkie was finally in an episode! And in a substantial way!

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I'd put this slightly above "Stranger Than Fan Fiction" in terms of enjoyment. The pranking montage with RD was a little long, but that makes the widespread prank at the end a lot more justified to the viewer, so it works. Not in my Top 5 of the season (which has been shifting around quite a bit as I rewatch the season), but close.

Not perfect, but still fun! :pinkietoot:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:01 pm

I was hoping Big Mac would go "Eee-yuppp" in a zombie voice. :eeyup:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:01 pm

Yeah that was pretty meh. RD being a dick is my favourite RD, but this was kind of low effort. "Gotcha!" got grating quickly :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:20 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:Yeah that was pretty meh. RD being a dick is my favourite RD, but this was kind of low effort. "Gotcha!" got grating quickly :pinkieshrug:


I think it was a little bit necessary for her to do so, just to better establish that RD was affecting the whole town and not just the Mane 6. "Gotcha!" was a bit annoying, but I like how it comes back to haunt RD at the very end. Her realization of the moral was gold. :-P
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Postby Jill (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:21 pm

  • off to a good start with fluttershy
  • and then rainbow dash shows up what a garbage tier ep :consternation:
  • "if you ponies want effort, then that's just what you'll get" :effort:
  • rainbow mouth, the ultimate prank(???)
  • fluttershy's bear guardian :allears:
  • where have i seen cookie zombies before
  • uh rainbow dash you could just fly away, idiot
  • "i see what you did there" dankest pony meme confirmed
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    even if you think she's serious, this honestly should be a surprise to no one
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:23 pm

Jill wrote:
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    even if you think she's serious, this honestly should be a surprise to no one


I think it's more so they are shocked at the implication that RD could somehow do something worse than stage an entire apocalypse. :pinkieshrug:
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