S04E14: Filli Vanilli

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S04E14: Filli Vanilli

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:54 pm

When a member of the singing group, the Ponytones, has to drop out of an important performance, Fluttershy takes drastic measures to ensure that the show goes on.


This thread is for discussion of this episode. The episode airs at 10:30 AM Eastern / 7:30 AM Pacific on Saturday, February 15!

Official preview clips and images are okay to post, as is speculation about the episode.

Writer: Amy Keating Rogers (2nd of S4, Pinkie Pride)
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:58 pm

If you just saw this ep title and concluded it was a Sweetie episode, don't worry - everyone jumped to that conclusion too. It was perfect! But nope, it's just a pony pun of Milli Vanilli. :v:

I believe this is Amy's first time writing a Fluttershy episode, so I'm very interested to see her take. Will Fluts be a fangirl or something of this group? Fluts and singing actually harkens back to the early days of the show also - pilot, Ticket Master, and a bit in ACW are the only times, right? Maybe one more somewhere.

The Hub press releases have stopped, so we have just this simple synopsis for the ep (zap2it). Uverse I think had nothing else to add.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:59 pm

If we get an awesome Fluttershy song out of this, it'll be worth it. Also, I wonder what type of band the Ponytones are.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:01 pm

About my only reaction to this is: Wat?
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:02 pm

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:04 pm

Yeah, I have no idea why they chose that name, but it's the episode that matters. By the name of the band, I'm expecting the Ponytones to be 60's surf rock or something.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:06 pm

So, who's Milli Vanilli and why is the episode named after them?

I get they apparently lip synced and from what I'm getting, that's the only notable thing.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:16 pm



:v: Girl you know it's-girl you know it's-girl you know it's.... :smirk:

If there is a ref' to that (besides the title) in the episode, my sides will be killing me by the end of the show.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:19 pm

There's going to be a 10-15 second part of the episode where the audio skips over and over again.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:29 pm

I wonder if this will be Fluttershy's key episode, I think it has good chances of being so.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:35 pm

Hmm...maybe she shows kindness and compassion to the band and something like a guitar pick is the key?
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:43 pm

I feel like the title is just the easiest pony pun on a band, and will have nothing to do with lip-synching shenanigans, just like Castle Mane-ia, but I wouldn't mind if it did.

I think the Breezies introduced in 411 have a better chance to act as Fluts' key.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:46 pm

Well, from past experiences from the other episodes, the key episodes follow a very similar pattern: An event is about to occur that is extremely important to one of the individual ponies. Then something doesn't go as planned, and they take drastic measures to ensure that they get what they want. But in the process, they end up doing something somewhat selfish, hurting their friends in a way in the process. Of course the realization that they were being selfish is what gets them the key.

This is what I think could easily happen here. Fluttershy could go really out of her way trying to get this band to play, and she could do something selfish in the process, because she needs to see them play on stage. Thus, she could realize something like she can't control everything, or whatever other lesson is the one to be learned.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:49 pm

Hmm...the Breezies episode could be the key episode as well. This is getting interesting...
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:56 pm

We're forgetting the most important thing people.

:awesomedash: Fluttershy is going to sing.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:09 pm

Shielded, remember the whole another pony is inspired by the element holder? I just can't quite see how a lesson of kindness is coming from this. Well, that's a lie - the Ponytones member dropping out maybe was forced out for some shitty reason, but, this would be copying RF too soon. It seems more natural to me to have the Breezies being treated poorly somehow (perhaps not on purpose), and Fluts helping fix that.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:22 pm

Right, I completely forgot about that part! Do we have a description of Breezies now though? I'd imagine it'd have to connect to Fluttershy somehow regardless, because clearly they exist and as of Three's A Crowd, we know that she has some connection to them.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:34 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:a guitar pick is the key?
Not a guitar pick. The guitar pick.

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Postby haywire (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:44 pm

So the lipsync track is going to screw up and we'll get to see Fluttershy doing the running man then?
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:07 pm

Fluttershy doing the Running Man would be the funniest thing ever.
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Postby Tears (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:29 pm

My first impression is that it could be a reverse of the Milli Vanilli situation. They lip synced, but that was still someone else's voices they were miming to, right? Maybe the actual singer was too old or didn't have the right look for a teen-bait group.

So maybe Fluttershy is the voice behind the curtain. "I want to help but I don't want to go onstage" seems much more Fluttershy than "I'll go onstage but I ain't singing" :flipout:

It could be a band/horse pun but MV are known for one very specific thing. If be surprised if it had no wider significance.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:32 pm

Tears wrote:My first impression is that it could be a reverse of the Milli Vanilli situation. They lip synced, but that was still someone else's voices they were miming to, right? Maybe the actual singer was too old or didn't have the right look for a teen-bait group.

So maybe Fluttershy is the voice behind the curtain. "I want to help but I don't want to go onstage" seems much more Fluttershy than "I'll go onstage but I ain't singing" :flipout:

That's what I'm hoping for. As I speculated in the spoiler thread, maybe she gets unexpectedly exposed for doing this, and now she has to deal with both being in the spotlight again and the embarrassment of being a lipsynch vocalist.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:35 pm

Huh...so kind of like an update of Green Isn't Your Colour but with more at stake? I like the idea...
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Postby Tears (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:38 pm

:smirk: <- phone-posting accidental Sweetie. Imma leave it in

Fizzbuzz wrote:That's what I'm hoping for. As I speculated in the spoiler thread, maybe she gets unexpectedly exposed for doing this, and now she has to deal with both being in the spotlight again and the embarrassment of being a lipsynch vocalist.


Totally, I'm sure it'd come out :fluttersmith:

I guess another way is that her friends think it's terrible that she's hiding at the back when she's so good, and maybe she'd love to sing onstage with a band if she wasn't do scared of doing it. I've seen people take this angle as a retread of shy Fluttershy, but performing onstage is nerve-wracking for anyone.

Either way I'm picturing her onstage and loving it and everything being rad forever :flutterunsmith: AKR to do musical episodes forever, plx.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:52 pm

Well, one other thing complicating issues is that the Ponytones are an established band. If they're touring across Equestria, wouldn't it be weird for them to just pick out random people from the cities they visit to perform with them? Even if this is finally when Fluttershy is recognized as a national hero and a former fashion model, it'd still be weird if the Ponytones overtly trotted her out in place of one of their own members.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:55 pm

I don't think Fluttershy will ever be recognized as a former fashion model. Heck, none of the Mane 6 really seem to be remembered for anything. You'd think that some member of Ponyville would say "Hey! Thanks for stopping to whole Discord craziness." But nobody seems to remember that. Or Nightmare Moon. Or really anything else for that matter. :v:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:11 pm

Oh man, that would be amazing. I would pay money to see pony try and make that kind of music.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:14 pm

PONY MAKES THE MUSIC :twonk:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:37 pm

Basically, I want exactly this to happen:


As much as I love the music in the show, I wanna see an acapella thing once.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:48 pm

I think that an acapella pony song would be amazing, especially if they get the entire cast to do it.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:28 pm



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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:20 pm

I think this will be an OK ep, I don't expect for it to be as fun/funny/crazy as the past 3, but given it's A Fluttershy ep, I know it'll be cute, and since they'll probably be a song, yay song! :allears:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:54 pm

They'll sing the official song of the Apple Family since they're in Ponyville.




:eeyup: Red

:anticipation: :hilarious: Gold

:granny: Green


:v: It's now stuck in your head.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:25 pm

Fluttershy focused episode.

Hype had bene doubled. :yay:
Pinkie Pie: So, you see this here? This, um, this is um, a big, round room. It's known for its roundness, and bigness, and did I mention that it's round?
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Postby Zuzie (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:27 pm

I don't think this will be Fluttershy's "Key episode" since this is only episode 14. There would be 12 episodes left for two more key episodes, and its very likely that their significance will be saved for the season finale. I'm expecting a small gap, then the three remaining keys will be found later on towards the season finale.

As for this episode itself: This would be the perfect opportunity to introduce Vinyl Scratch, Octaiva and/or Lyra Heartstrings as actual characters. After "Rainbow Falls" introduced Bulk Biceps as an actually important character, I'd like to believe that roles for these music ponies is certainly possible, given how hugely popular they are and all...
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:28 pm

:awesomedash: :party: :scootawoo: DO IT MARECAPELLA!

Watching that video, I'm picturing Discord as the pickpocket who gets dumped in the river and Pinkie Pie as the old guy playing harmonica. :-)
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:29 pm

^^ That's an interesting thought. AKR is the type of veteran writer to handle that if so...

I'm sure Vinyl will be around in the BG at minimum (hell, she was in SW). Octavia, I dunno, have we seen her since S1 finale despite all the fanon? Also, Lyra may have a music-oriented name, but the fanon around her is anything but.
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Postby Zuzie (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:37 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I'm sure Vinyl will be around in the BG at minimum (hell, she was in SW). Octavia, I dunno, have we seen her since S1 finale despite all the fanon? Also, Lyra may have a music-oriented name, but the fanon around her is anything but.


Since when does the show staff follow fanon? :rariwhat:

Octavia has plenty of toys based off her so Hasbro itself is at least somewhat aware of her existence.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:40 pm

I'm thinking that maybe Fluttershy resembles the pony in question.
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