S05E22: What About Discord?

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Re: S05E22: What About Discord?

Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:32 am

I only meant the fun we were having on the Steven Universe thread on this site. I'm watching it for the first time and they tell me there is some secret that I need to keep an eye out for and I'm racking my brains trying to find it and I briefly forgot that ponies is about to come on. As for that fandom I'm not familiar with it outside this site. sorry for the confusion. I'll go back to talking about ponies now...


This show has been pretty good at avoiding the obvious paths and I'm sure there is a third option they will go for we haven't even thought of yet. I'm sure we will see a whole new light to Discord.
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Postby Nemrex (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:36 am

Soft Snow wrote:
I only meant the fun we were having on the Steven Universe thread on this site. I'm watching it for the first time and they tell me there is some secret that I need to keep an eye out for and I'm racking my brains trying to find it and I briefly forgot that ponies is about to come on. As for that fandom I'm not familiar with it outside this site. sorry for the confusion. I'll go back to talking about ponies now...


The less you know about the whole kerfuffle with the fandom, the better. Best for you not to be exposed to that gaping wound.


Anyway, Hooooo Boy! New Discord episode! I always love listening to John De Lancie's eccentric voice. :allears:
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Postby Cthulhu Inc (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:39 pm

Bob Ross. Perfect timing :gotcha:

A bunch of people I was watching with just spontaneously clapping :v:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:40 pm

The Bob Ross bit was great, especially given the timing :lol:
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:41 pm

Bob Rosscord. :hilarious:

And Pinkie McFly.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:50 pm

If only this episode aired earlier, when Discovery Family was airing Back to the Future promos during shows.
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Postby drunkill (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:51 pm

Schrodinger's little pony.

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And Pinkie McFly.

Both great.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:00 pm

*spike backs out of the scene* :yikes:
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Postby Nicotico (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:02 pm

Oh God, it was a very Carlos episode. Man was it clever.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:03 pm

I liked that episode. Discord was a nice guy, and Twilight was in the wrong. I do believe Discord when he says he never intended to hurt Twilight, and that it was just an accident that really amused him.

Wildfire wrote:Bob Rosscord. :hilarious:

And Pinkie McFly.



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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:04 pm

This was fun to watch, not just because of Discord's antics but also because Twi was at her adorkable best. :excite:

I loved the Bob Ross gag.

:bluh: "What kinda fertilizer have you had yer nose in?"

And Zecora returns. :allears:

I think we can assume Discord is one of the good guys now, except he'll never lose his trickster side (and I wouldn't want him to). :excellent:
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:04 pm

Some good moments, but overall it gets an "eh" rating.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:05 pm

So the moral they were getting at was pretty good, but Discord once again taking a subtle opportunity to get an upper edge on Twilight was pretty :-/ , we need to move on from that.

While I get why the inside jokes were never really explained, I feel like this will make this episode not as rewatchable as others. At least there will be some interesting freeze frames, such as Rosscord and Orangeshy.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:06 pm

Yeah, nothing wow-ing, but, nothing I disliked.

A cute little ep. Envious Twi is adorably gwumpy.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:08 pm

I think this was actually a good episode. It's like what I've said about him in the past, that I'd much rather have Discord the helpful trickster (as we saw here or in Princess Twilight Sparkle, or Three's A Crowd somewhat) than Discord the shallow jerk (as he was in Make New Friends but Keep Discord, or once again in Three's A Crowd somewhat). Seems like he intentionally, genuinely wanted to do something nice with the other five of the Mane Six and just didn't want to interrupt Twilight for that weekend, then seized upon her exasperation as a chance to teach her something whilst having a bit of a laugh along the way.

Speaking of her, I'm always glad to see more of Twilight being a huge nerd. That's a side of her that seemed like it'd been forgotten from about the end of S2 to Twilight Time and I am glad it's coming back. Her behavior here actually reminded me of how she was in Feeling Pinkie Keen, to an extent. Even if she's a princess, she still ain't perfect.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:20 pm

Wayoshi wrote:So the moral they were getting at was pretty good, but Discord once again taking a subtle opportunity to get an upper edge on Twilight was pretty :-/ , we need to move on from that.

If the show got rid of that side of him then I feel like Discord would just be a pointless comedian. There isn't really anyone else who normally uses a somewhat sinister means of teaching good lessons as he does. This balance is tricky to get right, writing-wise, but I think this is one case where the show pulled it off.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:21 pm

It's been stale since Three's A Crowd executed it poorly. Or maybe it hasn't been executed right at all yet, I don't know.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:27 pm

A blend episode, but good with some Zecora.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:35 pm

Eh. This was a weird one, since the moral was decent, but because it focused so heavily on the mystery of everyone loving Discord, we the audience spent the whole episode being suspicious of the inside jokes instead of laughing at them.

I don't think it was bad in the sense of having a bad moral or portraying anyone out of character, but it... just didn't gel together. And while belittling Discord (literally) at the end was maybe unnecessary, it seemed like most people had that feeling mid-episode, too.

Fizzbuzz wrote:Seems like he intentionally, genuinely wanted to do something nice with the other five of the Mane Six and just didn't want to interrupt Twilight for that weekend, then seized upon her exasperation as a chance to teach her something whilst having a bit of a laugh along the way.

Maybe, but he also encouraged them to stay away from her. I think, despite what he said at the end, he expected all of this to unfold the way it did. But if Twilight had decided to get some fresh air and ran into them that weekend, he could've just messed with her right then instead of tweaking her afterward.

I wonder if that's the real issue here -- that he still sees her as a stick in the mud he can nettle, and since she wasn't there that weekend, everyone else did have fun. Is Twilight too suspicious of him? Or does this prove that she's right to have reservations?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:44 pm

Here's the episode link (still encoding as of this post): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3cus4l

SlateSlabrock wrote:Maybe, but he also encouraged them to stay away from her. I think, despite what he said at the end, he expected all of this to unfold the way it did. But if Twilight had decided to get some fresh air and ran into them that weekend, he could've just messed with her right then instead of tweaking her afterward.

I wonder if that's the real issue here -- that he still sees her as a stick in the mud he can nettle, and since she wasn't there that weekend, everyone else did have fun. Is Twilight too suspicious of him? Or does this prove that she's right to have reservations?

I feel like Spike was right all along, that Twilight was jealous over someone else having fun with her friends. Discord still needs to get a better idea of not to go too far with a joke, sure, but I genuinely think he is a better person now than what he used to be.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:45 pm

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Image Twilight Sparkle, you silly goose!
That potion was no more than fruit juice!


Image :"You just dropped a fake potion in my lap and sent me on my merry way?"

Image Discord and I, we are on a roll!
For today we did nothing but mislead, patronize, and troll!


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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:55 pm

Part of me is sympathetic to Twilight. I have had moments where I was jealous because I wasn't around when my friends did fun stuff and they kept making in-jokes that I didn't get.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:00 pm

Ending was worth all the weirdness and tension up to that point. It had me laughing hysterically at how beautifully executed everything was.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:04 pm

That didn't do it for me, I'm just so over Discord :-I
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:09 pm

Perhaps a bit of foreshadowing when Twilight said "Never mess around with time travel." Image
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:50 pm

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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:55 pm

It was also interesting how all the scenes with discord had his discordant sound effect when he talked to Twilight
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:13 pm

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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:15 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:Perhaps a bit of foreshadowing when Twilight said "Never mess around with time travel." Image


A -little- foreshadowing, you think?

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:36 pm

You really think that's her? She looks half as tall as that house.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:39 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:You really think that's her? She looks half as tall as that house.


Seriously? It's pretty unambiguous :-I

That's a cool little detail :-P
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:11 pm

Reactions time!

  • "Booksortcation." Oh :excite:, of all the Twilight Sparkles in the universe, you are truly the Twilight Sparkle-est.
  • Can't imagine why the other ponies want to hang with Discord instead of this book-sorting firecracker!
  • There's no Dewey Decimal System because ponies don't have fingers, you see.
  • It's been three days since they've seen the sun? Big deal, it's been like three months since we've seen Celestia.
  • Confirming what we all knew deep down: without Twilight around, the other ponies go back to being idiots. :v:
  • Twilight is very defensive about her booksortcation.
  • "Not old, but vintage" is also what Rarity plans to say when she turns 50.
  • HAPPY LITTLE ORANGE TREES
  • :-/ "I should call Moondancer. I bet SHE gets me."
  • Friendship is science!!!
  • Since his very first appearance, Discord has always been the best at fucking with Twilight, and it's glorious.
  • :twonk: "What's so funny about 'The Dude abides'? That's not a humorous line at all! Spike, fetch my gas chromatograph and my Big Lebowski Blu-Ray!"
  • "It was Something Awful!"
  • You know Twilight's out of ideas when she's visiting Zecora.
  • :vogue: *dump*
  • Jar O' Smooze! :smooze:
  • Discord as stealth mentor is always great. The other ponies can't get away with being an asshole to teach lessons, but he can.
  • But Discord getting comeuppance for being an asshole is also great!
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:16 pm

I liked this episode. I loved Discord as a villain and was bummed when it seemed like he was becoming a buddy, so I've enjoyed episodes like this where it's clear he still has a mean streak that he expresses by getting under Twilight's skin and twisting the knife.

Twilight and Discord have never liked each other and probably never will. The psychological battle of "hmmm apparently I'm better at friendship than you, the Princess of Friendship, isn't that just so WEIRD?!" was fun to watch.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:19 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:
Seriously? It's pretty unambiguous :-I

I don't know. I mean, this was her last appearance, in Amending Fences:
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In that scene she's obviously a pony, was moving like a pony would, and appeared multiple times. Here this thing looks mostly just like a background asset, of a bluish-gray washed-out color that lots of background stuff tends to have (notice how the trees and other plants get more faded the farther back they go). The shape of that thing also doesn't particularly look like her hairdo, either, at least not to me.



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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:34 pm

"What kind of fertilizer have you had your nose in, Twilight?" is the closest we've come to the word "shit" since Rainbow said "Oh horseapples" in Season 1.

This one is pretty bottom-tier for Season 5, which is subtle praise considering how amazing Season 5 has been so far. It wasn't bad, just not very engaging until at least the third act. It seems like the writers don't use Discord for anything truly world or character building, although he's a good vice for Twilight's self-reflection. I just don't find him that interesting since "Three's a Crowd," although there was a lot going for that episode besides Discord being a dick.

IMO, if the writers spend an episode teaching a moral or a lesson, it shouldn't seem like they are. This wasn't one of those subtle episodes this show's known for being able to pull off. I think that's the biggest strike against it.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:50 pm

Fizz, look at it again and consider she's using binoculars
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:10 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Fizz, look at it again and consider she's using binoculars

...oh. :-I That makes a lot more sense. I was so focused on the purplish-blue thing that I barely even considered what the other thing in the bush was. :facehoof:
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:24 pm

It's totally binoculars. The binoculars are the same asset Twilight was using back in season 1.

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I'm surprised there's only been two sightings so far this season. Since she's appeared at all, I would've figured she'd've shown up a whole lot more.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:33 pm

She's shown up both times when Twi has been trying to figure out an advanced friendship issue, these aren't just random
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Postby Lapis Infinitas (?) » Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:53 pm

I thought that today I would finally see what happens when Zecora says the word "Orange". Alas, it was not to be.
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