Re: S04E17: Somepony to Watch Over Me



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Wylie wrote:Also Brenda Crichlow isn't white.
Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote:i am not ready for the transhumanist revolution to begin with my butt
Fizzbuzz wrote:I suppose I'm willing to accept the extreme protectionism in this episode because it was from Applejack. Like, I tried imagining Rarity doing that to Sweetie Belle or Twilight Sparkle doing that to Spike, and in those cases it felt weird as hell.
One thing to consider is that I am an only child. When I was discussing For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils in the spoiler thread, I wondered why she and Rarity would be fighting again, and in response someone asked me if I had any siblings. Is the amount of love that Applejack shows for her family particularly unusual? Maybe my perspective is just way off here.
Wonkadoo wrote:
Rarity and Sweetie Belle are a much more typical sibling dynamic. Rarity loves Sweetie Belle but considers having to look after her a hassle and an imposition. Applejack has had to take on a mother role towards her sister in a way that Rarity never has.
ThunderBunny wrote:
Also, the fact that people here can recognize AND point out that Zecorra, despite being really awesome in many ways, represents an extremely problematic trope--and NOT get shouted down by a stream of profanity-fueled tirades for saying it--makes me love you all so damn much. You win the internet.
Headless Horse wrote:Fwiw, that concept for Zecora was something Lauren came up with and kinda had to be talked out of, is the impression I got.
SlateSlabrock wrote:Every family's different, but it's pretty common for siblings to be at each other's throats, especially with an older one in the teenage "I'm growing up and need my space" phase, and the younger one just wanting to be around their big brother/sister and play and be part of everything they're doing all the time!![]()
But Applejack probably had to grow up a lot faster, so she straddles the "older sister" and "mom" roles. With her parents gone, she's bound to be a lot more protective of the family she still has. And on a farm, at least you can always send the young one off to paint a fence or buck some apples or something.
Headless Horse wrote:Fwiw, that concept for Zecora was something Lauren came up with and kinda had to be talked out of, is the impression I got.
Tears wrote:Yeah I just wanted to say that one thing I really like about this forum is that I didn't feel like I was jumping into the belly of the beast by talking about issues around Zecora, it is a cool thing about TRS.
Tears wrote:
Yeah I just wanted to say that one thing I really like about this forum is that I didn't feel like I was jumping into the belly of the beast by talking about issues around Zecora, it is a cool thing about TRS.
Also, yes to all of Wonkadoo and Slate's analyses of Rara/Sweets and AJ/Appablum
Wylie wrote:
In a "take a step back and look" sort of sense, the fact that we're discussing these family issues like this has to be an indicator that the episode was a success on at least one or two levels.
Tears wrote:
SoundMonkey44 wrote:Agreed! I truly believe after all is said & done when people are looking back at the season or on this ep, there will be more with A positive outlook on it l then A negative.
Dexanth wrote:And yea, she originally was meant to be something of a Yoda for Twilight, like she is in Magic Duel - but so was Luna, for that matter. I'm pretty sure those were vetoed because of the S1 'We don't want things to be dark' fiat.
SoundMonkey44 wrote:I just wanna say that I would really really really like to be part of the roundstable disscussion for this ep. So if that is at all possible, I would be forever greatful.
BackgroundPony wrote:
I don't think it's completely ridiculous for AJ to go crazy trying to protect a family member, but the episode should have had something to trigger it. And not a completely contrived ridiculous scenario resulting in some broken dishes, either.
SoundMonkey44 wrote:But yeah, AJ going into "overprotective mother" mode may not work all that well for everyone, but it works for me. Everyone present in the ep had some good moments, the subversions of expectations were fun. And making an episode arguably aimed just as much, if not more at the intended demo's parents then the lil kids themselves is an interesting thing to see,
londonarbuckle wrote:You know, it sure is weird that the Chimera spoke English.
londonarbuckle wrote:You know, it sure is weird that the Chimera spoke English. This is the first straight-up bloodthirsty monster we've gotten from this show with that level is sapience. I kept expecting it to actually NOT be a bloodthirsty monster after all because of how chatty it was getting. It made the whole sequence feel really weird. Don't know if it's good weird or bad weird though.
Also, I think I'm in the camp of thinking AJ was badly characterized. Her sudden over-protectiveness didn't bother me too much, in fact I almost expected it from a new writer. But then she realized AB can take of herself... when she almost got eaten by a monster? What? The whole resolution was so weird to me.
londonarbuckle wrote:Also, I think I'm in the camp of thinking AJ was badly characterized. Her sudden over-protectiveness didn't bother me too much, in fact I almost expected it from a new writer. But then she realized AB can take of herself... when she almost got eaten by a monster? What? The whole resolution was so weird to me.
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