S05E15: Rarity Investigates!

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Re: S05E15: Rarity Investigates!

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:16 pm

Also, it just occurred to me where I've seen Rainbow Dash's victory dance before. It's the same one she did in "The Mysterious Mare-Do-Well" :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:31 pm

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My take is that there is no conflict. We are being shown the flashback as it is being told, and the cake vendor thought that she sold the cake to a mare, and therefore the pony appears as such. Those were the facts presented to Rarity and RD at that point, and there should also be the facts presented to the viewers.

That's honestly how I saw it. If Wind Rider had covered most of himself up and Cinnamon Chai had to go off of voice alone, I can see how she might've thought he sounded like Rainbow Dash does.

Part of me even wants to take it as the writers joking about how Rainbow Dash is not-uncommonly mistaken for being male.
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:47 pm

That must be it, it would have helped if Rarity had said something like ''but it wasn't a mare, it was YOU!''
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:05 pm

I wonder if they planned to have him talk in the flashback, and show him disguising his voice.
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:26 pm

Headless Horse wrote:When Rarity asked the guards about whether they took a break, I first heard it as "took a brick"—and I assumed it was some obscure slang for taking a bribe.


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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:58 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:That's honestly how I saw it. If Wind Rider had covered most of himself up and Cinnamon Chai had to go off of voice alone, I can see how she might've thought he sounded like Rainbow Dash does.

Part of me even wants to take it as the writers joking about how Rainbow Dash is not-uncommonly mistaken for being male.


:seethe: Whaddya mean, raspy voice?
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:02 pm

As pointed out on Reddit, there seems to be a theme here:

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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:26 pm

They're not wrong to do so
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:00 pm

Rainbow Dash is prone to crashing into stuff well enough on her own. She doesn't need other ponies smacking her into stuff. :rainbert:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:50 am

Two episodes makes a theme?
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:52 am

I can't stop watching Sweetie looking so happy as she gives RD the smackdown :cooliebelle:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:02 am

Niels Olof wrote:As pointed out on Reddit, there seems to be a theme here:

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Unicorn's are jerks... :rainbert:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:12 am

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Unicorn's are jerks... :rainbert:


Just Rarity, Sweetie Belle learned it from her :smirk:

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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:10 am

PonyHag714 wrote:I can't stop watching Sweetie looking so happy as she gives RD the smackdown :cooliebelle:


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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:19 am

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FEAR the Rari-butt!

Maybe it's a unicorn thing... :butt: :ponder:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:21 pm

For ponies, I suppose it's the closest equivalent to a human shoving someone or something with his or her shoulder.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 12:30 pm

She just has to butt in. :facehoof:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Mon Sep 21, 2015 1:56 pm

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After all these years, I still laugh at this. :lol:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:10 am

"Where were you last night around midnight?"
"Guarding this hallway."
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:rainbert: :"A likely story!"

:ohrarity: :"Dear, if somepony's going to ape all the tropes of the genre in this episode it should be me."

"We saw no one."
"Except for you."

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:seethe: :"Wwwwwwhat are you trying to say?!"
"The only other pony that had access to that wing was you."

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Image :"We were getting nowhere fast, and seeing as how Rainbow couldn't interrogate herself out of a wet paper bag - "
Image :"You're muttering to yourself again! That's just weird. You sound like not all of your dogs are barking, or your horn isn't screwed in properly."

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Image :"I think it was time we deployed the heavy artillery."

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:rainbert: :"This whole scene stinks to high heaven. The green one on the left hasn't said a darn thing! What do think he's hiding, Rar? Rari-"

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:offendash: :"I TURN MY HEAD FOR ONE GODDAMN SECOND AND YOU'VE DONE ANOTHER FUCKING COSTUME CHANGE?!!"
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Image :"Hello, boys."
:grumpydash: :"I swear, Rarity, I swear that one day that 'feminine whiles' shtick of yours is gonna blow up in your face, and I'm not sure if I wanna be there when it happens."
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:12 am

Stuff like that is why I like this episode so much. :lol: They take the noir gags, make it their own and run with it.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:15 pm

Come to think of it, is this a rare occasion where the royal guards are different colors and not all clones of each other?
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:26 pm

I would think even if RD were booted from the Bolts, Celestia could override it.

Image Spitfire, I'd like you to reinstate Rainbow Dash, please.

Image Princess Celestia, Rainbow Dash betrayed us. She tried to sabotage my part in the show for her own interests! She...

:pcstare: Nevertheless.

Image Fine...Rainbow Dash, you are reinstated.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:40 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:Come to think of it, is this a rare occasion where the royal guards are different colors and not all clones of each other?

Seems like it. It's a bit strange to think about it that way, even though it looks perfectly natural in the show.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:48 pm

She's more in the Wonderbolts Reserves, aka the Backup 'Bolts, which some might call the Bag O' Bolts, but that's just nuts. :v:


The guards change their outfits and body styles from time to time.
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But their voices more or less tend to range from gruff to gruffer. I want the third guard to be doing something like a Woody Allen impression.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:01 pm

:awkward: :"On the bright side, at least Spitfire's ma didn't come down with Pegasitis."

:sadrarity: :"Or the Pony Pox ..."

:saddash: :"Or whatever it is that unicorns seem to have."

:ohrarity:
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:13 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:
Just Rarity, Sweetie Belle learned it from her :smirk:

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Postby Durandal (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:32 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:Come to think of it, is this a rare occasion where the royal guards are different colors and not all clones of each other?


I actually really liked how each of the guards were a little bit different and not just the Stormtrooper-esque clone army that they were in S1
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:50 pm

Durandal wrote:
I actually really liked how each of the guards were a little bit different and not just the Stormtrooper-esque clone army that they were in S1

One thing I've always wondered about this show's development is whether this same-ness was considered and how much deliberation it received. Maybe they were meant to be terribly impersonal, once upon a time. Consider how back in the very first episode, after Twilight and Spike get off the chariot in Ponyville, she thanks the royal guards who flew her there and they just whinny in response. That's always made me wonder if they were never supposed to be viewed as persons but more just as things.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:51 am

By the way, they fixed the screw-up with the episode posting on iTunes.
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Postby Ragnar (?) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:44 am

Wait, there are new episodes? :starity:

Oh my god, they're both Rarity episodes.

Oh my god, 0515 is amazing. :starity:
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Postby Octavia (?) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:27 pm

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Rewatched the episode and this was a freaky screenshot :starity:
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:51 pm

Octavia wrote:Rewatched the episode

Wait, people do that?
and this was a freaky screenshot :starity:

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:45 pm

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Wait, people do that?

I've watched nearly every episode at least twice, with the only exceptions being a few from seasons 4 and 5. Oftentimes I catch Discovery Family airing reruns during the day so that's how I've rewatched a lot of them.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:00 pm

At the very least, I'll watch it streamed live.
Then the torrent later that evening.
Then the official iTunes version, when it comes out.
Finally, see the episode together with my niece.

It's good stuff. It can, nearly always, handle the repetition.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:00 pm

One sees the episodes a lot when grabbing screenshots/emoticon fodder/foreign translations. :-I
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:17 pm

Something I thought of just now is that the scene in the first act where Rarity convinced the delivery pony to return her mistaken rhinestone order didn't really have much bearing on the story, if at all. I mentioned that in IRC just now and Wayoshi was saying that it was needed to help set up the later scene where she's talking to the guards. I guess that makes sense, but Rarity using her charm to get what she wants is something she's done for years and years, so I doubt there'd be too many people watching who don't know she's good at that. I don't know, is that knowledge of her behavior too much of an assumption to make of the show's target audience?
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:28 pm

A refresher early on is always good writing.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:16 pm

Wayoshi wrote:A refresher early on is always good writing.

Perhaps, but if it burns that much time on a refresher that might not be quite so necessary, then that's time that could've been instead used on putting more interesting stuff in this episode. I almost feel like it was put in to fill out time in this episode, but it's incredibly rare for this show to ever come up short script-wise.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:45 pm

I didn't care for that whole scene. Rarity was trying to charm delivery pony into fixing her order, but all the poor guy does is deliver packages. He's not responsible for making the gemstones, packing them, or anything else she wanted done. All he does is deliver; it'd be like us trying to get the UPS guy to fix an incorrectly packed order from Amazon. I know why they put the scene in, but it could've been written better.

Also, my above comment about rewatching episodes was sarcasm. I rewatch episodes way more than I'd be comfortable admitting. :awkward:
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Postby Mordja (?) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:40 pm

My thoughts on Rarity Investigates:

Hella great faces.
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