S04E19: Trade Ya!

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Re: S04E19: Trade Ya

Postby Venusy (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:41 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:And... this is a thing that is official MLP canon now, I guess. :wat:
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As I said in #ponyday...

:smug: "Draw me like one of your French hens."
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:41 pm

Chicken pony seemed eccentric enough to make something like that.

I mean, all the silly things that had to happen to make the plot work leads to silly characters. :-P
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Postby Kamek (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:42 pm

Wow, that wheelchair pony looks like someone slapped their OC in the show :starity:

and he actually looks damn good

edit: also Pinkie Pie is a jerk again, go fig :deflated:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:44 pm

Kamek wrote:Wow, that wheelchair pony looks like someone slapped their OC in the show :starity:

and he actually looks damn good

Apparently he actually IS an OC. His voice actor has spinal muscular atrophy.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:46 pm

Didn't really have any expecations for this. Episode was alright. Pinkie was bad as usual, but the rest was good.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:47 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Well, that was a screwball premise for an episode, but holy moly did it ever pack a lot into 22 minutes.

:offendash: Whooooo'll take my rusty horseshoooooe?!

So the iron law of the princesses watches swap meets like a hawk to make sure everyone gets a fair deal, but shady old antique shops in Canterlot sell amulets of untold power completely unregulated.

PONY WAGS THE TAIL :awesomedash:
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Rainbow and Fluttershy missed their calling as short-order cooks.

And... this is a thing that is official MLP canon now, I guess. :wat:
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Technically, while she did say, "The library's overflowing," she also said those books were sent to her by Celestia. It's possible they were never official library copies in the first place. On the other hand, as someone else mentioned earlier, libraries do have book sales fairly regularly because they can't just build a new wing every time they fill up the shelves.


So Twilight is trying to pawn Celestia's stuff. :rainbert:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:48 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:And... this is a thing that is official MLP canon now, I guess. :wat:
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This is still the most :psygum: thing about today's episode. Does he just really, really like chickens?

...Does that make him a furry? :wat:
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Postby Pocket (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:56 pm


Super-obvious caption: "Draw me like one of your French hens."

In all seriousness, though, does anyone else think this character looks like he walked out of a completely different show? I'm thinking something from Kids' WB in the '90s.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:58 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:...Does that make him a furry? :wat:


But he already has fur. :v:
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Postby Venusy (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:00 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:This is still the most :psygum: thing about today's episode. Does he just really, really like chickens?

...Does that make him a furry? :wat:

:iiaia: Feathery, surely.

(As far as I know, most still refer to themselves as furries).
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Yeah, I'd be interested to hear which show they used as reference material. The style seems kind of familiar, but I can't place it.
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Postby Kamek (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:08 pm

Okay that was a pretty cute episode :awesomedash:

I don't get why the synopsis specifically mentioned Spike by name when he got all of two seconds of screentime though :iiam:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:12 pm

You know, I almost want to go back and count how many times that chicken picture has been quoted.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:22 pm

Okay I'm just gonna say this episode was adorable, and funny and had an incredibly sweet ending.

I also LOVED Fluttershy and Rainbow's moments :allears: :awesomedash:

So yeah definitely ranks as a favorite of mine.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:24 pm

Episodes like this one are my favorite kind of MLP episode. It's a fun slice-of-life episode that made me laugh a whole lot, and we got to see some great one-on-one interactions between the main cast. It reminded me a lot of Castle Mane-ia, where all 6 ponies break up into pairs and have their own adventures in the same place. I loved it. :allears:
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Postby DarkMatter (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:38 pm

This episode was super cute. :allears: Although I do wish Dash and Fluttershy kept the two headed doggy. But, yeah, very funny episode with lots of great character interaction. One of my favorites of this season.

And I totally spotted the Lutece twins from BioShock Infinite in the background.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:48 pm

Venusy wrote::iiaia: Feathery, surely.

(As far as I know, most still refer to themselves as furries).

And going off of what Tailspin said, the distinction is even further blurred when you consider that 1/3 of ponies also have feathers. :shepspike:
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Postby Kronos (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:50 pm

Other than Pinkie being a jerk to that one filly who only had the broken quill, it was a good low-key ep. The real star is how they got away with all the 'crap past the radar' things.

I mean, good GOD that damn chicken :v: I wish to claim it as my own, getting sort of tired of the Pegasis and want something new.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:06 pm

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:allears:

I guess this was supposed to be one big annual flea market, so it would be in a centralized location like Rainbow Falls (but not Canterlot?), not Ponyville. :pinkieshrug: Whatever, the location was pretty irrelevant.

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:eep: : Your face Twi... is it OK?

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Adolescent Twi? Certainly not filly Twi and doesn't look fully grown...

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What a cute surprised bear. :allears:

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I would be :-/ too. R.D. very naive here thinking that would work. (She's lucky it worked at all, but... :plot:)

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Holy fuck that tattoo... :black101:

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:v:

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Why so sheepish, R.D.?

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I know R.D., it doesn't make much sense either. You would think ponies would hivemind think that such lamps are jinxes on their households. :v: :excellent:
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Postby acksed (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:08 pm

This was all right. Weird, but all right.

Best visual joke of the episode was RD's face just freezing in shock.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:11 pm

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:allears:

I guess this was supposed to be one big annual flea market, so it would be in a centralized location like Rainbow Falls (but not Canterlot?), not Ponyville. :pinkieshrug: Whatever, the location was pretty irrelevant.

Real estate in Canterlot does seem to be at a bit of a premium, so I'm not too surprised the event isn't hosted there. But that begs the question of Rainbow Falls's location. Hopefully the map will be updated after this season is over.
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:14 pm

This episode had adorable Fluttershy and Dash friendship moments in it - the most since season 2 - so automatically a 10/10 episode for me TBH. But really, the whole episode was gushy and adorable and I like it better when they do friendship-focused slice of life stuff like this.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:20 pm

Rainbow Dash: Yeah, I said it, but I was wrong! I did want that book, a lot. I said I wanted it more than anything in all of Equestria. But there's no thing that's worth as much to me as a friend. I might have forgotten that for a little bit, but it's true. Which means there's no way this trade can be fair!
Daring Do Collector: Oh, come on, that's... [tearing up] ...the sweetest thing I've ever heard! Okay, the trade's off!
[crowd cheering]


I guess R.D.'s line is fine and we've had similarly sappy lines, but the DD Collector's line pushes it over the top for me. Could have been a bit more subdued and not as kiddy. :pinkieshrug:

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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:26 pm

Man, the artists and animators must've had fun with this one.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:46 pm

Looks like the staff aren't tweeting about the episode because they're at BABScon, unless this counts:
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Does Scott Sonneborn have a twitter account? I don't see one.

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That's a surprising little hair curl on RD. Edit: Unless it's a tail behind her. :v:

rudecyrus wrote:Man, the artists and animators must've had fun with this one.

I was amazed at how many old show references made a comeback in this episode. For example, the cherry vendor and the professor from the beginning of season 3:
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I tried to get this into an emote, but I think it came out looking more like Granny Smith. Maybe with some more work. :-/
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:49 pm

:v: well hi there Ken Levine.


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Postby Ragnar (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:35 pm

Nice. An excellent demonstration of the follies of capitalism and innate superiority of the teachings of Marx. Haha, just kidding.*

I liked Pinkie just fine in this. The thing to understand about Pinkie is that she is an agent of chaos. In fact, come to think of it, involving Pinkie in your business is a little like involving Discord. The main difference between her and Discord, though, is that Discord is heavily motivated by his egocentrism and sometimes cruel sense of humor, while Pinkie just likes being a part of things, and, when she involves herself in them, the situation just naturally gets Pinkied.

* :amazing:
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Postby Chaos Sonic (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:45 pm

Chaos Sonic wrote:The way I see it, the ponies all end up pooling their goods together, and then when each of the six finds something really expensive they want, they argue over how to split the pool.

Aw yeah, called it. :smug: Kinda. :v:
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:05 pm

The more I look at it the more I have to agree that, yes, that chicken art is really weird for this show, holy cow.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:10 pm

I liked Pinkie in the episode. I didn't see her as being mean I just thought she was worried her friend was making a bad deal. In her mind a princess' books are super valuable and she was protecting her friend from getting duped.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:13 pm

Frosthawk wrote:The more I look at it the more I have to agree that, yes, that chicken art is really weird for this show, holy cow.


I get the feeling that sometimes the animation team likes to see what they can get away with.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:26 pm

Bremen wrote:
I get the feeling that sometimes the animation team likes to see what they can get away with.

Sometimes? :smirk:
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Postby @Zebra_ebooks (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:46 pm

The chicken art is pretty great. The episode was pretty good overall. My only real complaint was the trade at the end. Dobbledawg is way the hell cooler than some dumb bird call. :unenthused:
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Postby LardLad3545 (?) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 11:59 pm

Finally got home and got to watch the episode. I liked it. Not quite as much as most season 4 episodes, but nonetheless... The attention to detail with all the background shiznit going on was just wonderful. Put me in the group of people who didn't notice Fluts going back and forth during the :gonkity: :applejargh: exchange. I also honestly thought Twilight would end up just giving the books away for free in the interest of spreading knowledge, but the actual resolution was sweet too. There hasn't been a single episode this season that hasn't had incredible faces and I love every last one of them. As for the wheelchair pony, his design stood out a little, but I kinda liked it. I also kinda liked the voice acting, though it definitely wasn't professionally done. Still, I thought he had cool mannerisms. The chicken vendor pony... just... ... :starity: ... ... :crack:

In the end though, it was a fluff episode with nothing at stake. Nothing wrong with that, but I guess I just prefer something a little 'bigger' to be going on, but whatevs. Can't say that I like working during the airing of new pony eps though. Not. One. Bit. :-/
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Postby happysad (?) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:06 am

Wow, that was adorable and jam-packed with visuals and dialog that will hold up to multiple rewatchings. I just felt like with the the bustling background of the flea market and the continuous jumping from subplot to subplot, there was a barrage of pony and I'm sure I missed a ton of tidbits. I found it hilarious that Rainbow Dash was covered in double headed dog slobber and unnecessary glue, and seeing her zip around the background with Fluttershy was a gas. And seeing a disabled pony, one who asserted himself both in commercial matters and when taking care of his own needs, warmed my heart.

A crazy wild episode with tidy endings and lots of fun along the way. Yay!
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:17 am

Aaaaa everyone's already commented on most of the things I wanted to comment on! Like the Paul Lynde voice. And the tail-wagging autograph kid. And all the crazy huge amount of background movement and characters and and and and—

Okay, so I guess that's what I would bring up first off: callbacks. This episode is just jam-packed full of callbacks. Not fan shoutouts, but references to stuff that's gone on earlier in this season and previous ones, not to mention self-aware commentary on the whole Twilight-Princess business. I think Scott Sonneborn is really establishing himself as someone who loves the canon of the show and couldn't wait to get down to writing his own scripts just so he could reference some of it, like:

- Twilight pointing out which of her books related to specific times in her life, i.e. a) the one she was reading when Applejack nudged her inkpot out of line in Spike At Your Service, and b) the one that reminds her of the day she first came to Ponyville

- Discord lamp with no actual mention of Discord (okay, this one's probably on DHX :v: )

- Rarity playing the "I'm too generous to be caught out by that old trick" card

- Daring Do, of course

- A little irresistible texture to the "princess" dynamic, implying that there's different levels of princess—the real princesses, who still rule the place and are elevated to a special plane, and then the mini-princesses who are more or less just go-betweens and lieutenant-governors and representatives who show up at provincial functions for local rubes

And a lot of other stuff along those lines. It's a weird blend between what feels "fanfic-y" and what feels like the kind of original new unexpected material that a professional cartoon writer would come up with, and somehow it seems like exactly the kind of thing to expect of the show at this stage in its lifecycle, when the creative forces within it are increasingly being drawn from a world that's been steeped in ponies for a good three-plus years now.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:21 am

Okay, I probably missed the Paul Lynde pony. Where was that?
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:24 am

The chicken statue guy.

Also I liked how the dog was chewing a chain into little bitty pieces, but was tied to a stake with a rope. :v:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:30 am

Headless Horse wrote:The chicken statue guy.

Ah, got it.

Paul Lynde's voice is really imitated/parodied a lot in cartoons; Roger the Alien in particular is a best known modern example. I wonder if Hanna-Barbera had something to do with it, to the point that they did use Paul Lynde for voices, with the Hooded Claw in "Penelope Pitstop" being the best known example (ironically, Lynde requested that he doesn't get screen credit because he didn't want his friends to know)

Headless Horse wrote:- Discord lamp with no actual mention of Discord (okay, this one's probably on DHX )

Actually, Rainbow does say "A whole stand filled with Discord-shaped lamps!?"
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:34 am

Oh, well in that case, :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:37 am

To your credit, Discord never actually appeared. I was actually half-expecting him to show up here.
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