S04E15: Twilight Time

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Re: S04E15: Twilight Time

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:12 am

MochaBean wrote:We all know Twilight will just end up eating all those nachos by herself anyway, did you see her at the diner? :glare:

In the very end, after the CMCs leave in disguise, we see the nachos in the trashcan outside the door.

Although it's possible that the CMCs, Twilight, and Spike ate some, then threw the rest out.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:13 am

Mr. Big wrote:In the very end, after the CMCs leave in disguise, we see the nachos in the trashcan outside the door.

Judging by Twilight's behavior earlier, she's still going to devour that shit. :gotcha:
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:28 am

Spike eats "baked bads" out of the garbage and Twilight is a pig in general. (*) That's who the residents of this tree are.

The nachos are still in the trash at episode's end because kids are watching, but if they were to leave the camera running after the credits, I have a feeling we'd be witness to a disturbing scene indeed. :bluh:

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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:29 am

MochaBean wrote:Magic practice :awesomedash:

I think that was Tabitha as a plant seedling.


Actually...

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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:48 am

Pipsqueak was supposedly voiced by a child actor named William Lawrenson in "Luna Eclipsed", but in this episode, it's Graham Verchere. Did the actors change, or was it always Graham? Granted, it's been three years since Pipqueak's last appearance, so whoever voiced him in "Luna" probably hit puberty by now.

If so, is this the first instance of a character having a different actor in different episodes? (not counting background ponies like Bon Bon)
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:57 am

Mr. Big wrote:In the very end, after the CMCs leave in disguise, we see the nachos in the trashcan outside the door.

Although it's possible that the CMCs, Twilight, and Spike ate some, then threw the rest out.


Twilight is a slob, you think being in the trash will stop her. :gotcha:
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Postby LardLad3545 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:03 am

Am I the only one who thinks DT's line "Becaaaaaaause of all the ponies we're keeping out" is just ridiculously hilarious? As in, possibly one of the funniest lines in the show ever mostly because of how its probably the most bluntly selfish and awful thing any of the characters have ever said and it's glorious because of it? I just can't get over that. :gotcha:

Oh yeah, I never said what I thought about the episode... because, ya know, everyone cares so much. Loved it. Thought it was just a wonderfully warm and well paced episode. Don't have a whole lot to say beyond that I really really liked that each time I thought the conflict was climaxing, it didn't because of Twilight's total good-natured... ness... I dunno. I've been having a lot of trouble forming my opinions about the episodes into words lately. But yeah, thought it was wonderful. Good pacing. Nothing felt rushed. The moral was super warm and fluffy. Obviously the scene in the fast food joint was pure gold. Just... yeah. Great episode. Loved it.

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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:06 am

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Actually...

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Ooh, Pinkie Pie's singing voice actress as Silver Spoon. :-D
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Postby drunkill (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:08 am

This was a really fun episode. I'm glad Scootaloo and Sweetiebelle got some serious airtime, normally in the CMC episodes they get dwarfed by Applebloom a little too often.


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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:19 am

It's been remarked, but I'm very impressed at the variety of all the youngster designs in the group.

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Matt Stone pony, Young Flash Sentry, Wednesday Addams, Willow DeWisp, FatKid, Phillip "Hay" Fry, Pip...

...And that's just scratching the surface. Featherweight's in there, and Dinky, and Twist, and Young Photo Finish... and then later at the library there's the two Discord's Angels on their scooters who block off the door and knock on it and then just wheel their way right inside like it ain't no thing.

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That's a proper "classroom" size gathering of ponies. It's a far cry from the days of maybe seven rubber-stamped clones plus Snips and Snails. They really put a lot of work into that crowd, having it follow the CMCs around for the whole episode. All original, custom designs and animation. :allears:
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:27 am

Headless Horse wrote:...And that's just scratching the surface. Featherweight's in there, and Dinky, and Twist, and Young Photo Finish... and then later at the library there's the two Discord's Angels on their scooters who block off the door and knock on it and then just wheel their way right inside like it ain't no thing.


You forgot Twist & Fatkid Pony's love-child: :twistberg:
Also the orange hamburger (?) colt that looks like Syndrome.

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I just wish regular background ponies could be this diverse...
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:41 am

Yeah, I'm amazed at all the kid Pony designs here. Like, wow, they went all out.

I'm thinking that they're trying to rely less on standard Pony templates lately.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:52 am

drunkill wrote:This was a really fun episode. I'm glad Scootaloo and Sweetiebelle got some serious airtime, normally in the CMC episodes they get dwarfed by Applebloom a little too often.


Twilight was burgin all over the place Image Hungry Hungry Horse.


I now wish for Hasbro to do A pony version of Hungry Hungry Hippos! :-D :gotcha:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:53 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:
I now wish for Hasbro to do A pony version of Hungry Hungry Hippos! :-D :gotcha:


We might get that after the Hungry Hungry Hippos movie comes out. :gotcha:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:24 am

...Wow, I guess they're really pushing this board game movie thing. :v:

Back to the episode, I liked how this episode explored Twilight's fame of being a princess...that she's a little offset yet still willing to help the other fillies learn. I thought that was a real nice touch.
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Postby Venusy (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:19 am

Mr. Big wrote:Pipsqueak was supposedly voiced by a child actor named William Lawrenson in "Luna Eclipsed", but in this episode, it's Graham Verchere. Did the actors change, or was it always Graham? Granted, it's been three years since Pipqueak's last appearance, so whoever voiced him in "Luna" probably hit puberty by now.

If so, is this the first instance of a character having a different actor in different episodes? (not counting background ponies like Bon Bon)

No, Spitfire changed in Wonderbolts Academy, and Flutterguy switched voice actors last episode.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:27 am

I could have sworn we had another different voice actor this season...
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Postby Sind (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:54 am


aww, look at those cute little blank flanks :gotcha:
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:55 am

Dammit. Now I want nachos tomorrow for dinner. Will I or won't I and how will they be born? Of 7 11 or home made? Stupid reading thread before bedtime and grocery shopping tonight. :angry:
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Postby DaBatGuy (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:17 pm

Well that was an episode, I guess. I hesitate to call it a “bad” episode as there weren’t any major problems with the characterization, world building or the moral. Nor do I feel that calling it predictable is a valid criticism (FIM is written for a young audience and rarely pulls off effective twists in its narrative). It was just boring most of the time which is surprising for a Polsky episode, as controversial as his stories can get they never fail to be entertaining.

There were some really great bits in the episode, the CMC advancing their skills (especially SB learning magic), DT’s butler abuse, more Pipsqueak, the entire Restaurant scene ( easily the best part of the episode), Fry pony drooling on the gate, and Spike’s nachos. Aside from that there wasn’t much to keep me interested since the humor was usually absent and the stakes were way too low to create interesting character drama. Also, a minor nitpick, why did it take this long for DT and SS to realize the CMC were connected to Twilight? Even without Twi’s personal tutoring they were always 2 degrees of separation from her since their big sisters are her BFFs.

I really wished Dave pushed the conflict way more in this episode; make the CMC exploit their friendship so egregiously that Twilight is actually visibly uncomfortable with the extra attention becomes truly upset/saddened when the truth is revealed. As it stands “Twilight Time” is just everything nice without the sugar, spice or chemical X that makes most episodes interesting and memorable.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:39 pm

Venusy wrote:No, Spitfire changed in Wonderbolts Academy, and Flutterguy switched voice actors last episode.

Not quite. Nicole Oliver played Spitfire way back in Sonic Rainboom, but all her past appearances since then have been played by Kelly Metzger. Between the old practice of not individually crediting actors for each episode as well as Spitfire's different tone in WA, it was easy to assume that a new actress was playing her there.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:41 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Not quite. Nicole Oliver played Spitfire way back in Sonic Rainboom, but all her past appearances since then have been played by Kelly Metzger. Between the old practice of not individually crediting actors for each episode as well as Spitfire's different tone in WA, it was easy to assume that a new actress was playing her there.


Just goes to show how a Voice Director is just as important as a Voice Actor in getting a character to sound right. Kind of like the whole "unappreciated Video Editor" thing.
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Postby Thaddeus (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:43 pm

The Outlander wrote: "unappreciated Video Editor"


Tell that to Barry from Game Grumps.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:36 pm

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:42 pm

I'm surprised they haven't done that joke yet...aren't most of the staff from Canada? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:53 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:I'm surprised they haven't done that joke yet...aren't most of the staff from Canada? :pinkieshrug:

I doubt it'd play very well with people who don't know the details of FiM's production. For them, it'd just be a typical "ha ha, Canadian English sounds very slightly different" joke.
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:56 pm

*sigh*

I hated this. So. Much.

I am generally pretty happy-go-lucky about the show, but those damn CMCs (and the even worse super-fake bullies) drive me up the freaking wall. I am normally pretty ok with Sweetie Belle, but she was like the ring-leader of the stupid in this episode. And I can not understand how they have let Apple Bloom's VA get away with an accent that fake and grating for four seasons now. :gonkity:

I thought the previous CMC episode this season was surprisingly watchable, and even had some really enjoyable elements, but this... This was nearly unbearable to me.

That said, I guess I have nothing of actual substance to say about this episode, as it's pretty much a personal problem that I was so outrageously annoyed by it. :-P Between Apple Bloom, Diamond Tiara, and Silver Spoon's god-awful voices, a solid half of this episode was just an extreme nails-on-the-chalk-board experience for me.

Though one thing I LOVED was getting to see inside a new Ponyville location. That was fun. :yay:
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:31 pm

I've never been a huge CMC fan but I liked this one. Reminded me a bit of Cutie Pox which I think is an underrated episode.

Thought the various ways in which Sweetie Belle seemed to be channeling Rarity were charming. Twilight being a huge fucking slob was also glorious, in the same vein as her terrible dancing and embarrassing fashion sense from Sweet and Elite.

I also appreciated the fact that Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon weren't literally Satan. They were definitely exploiting the CMC to get what they wanted, but the whole thing wasn't revealed as some elaborate trick to draw out the CMC and humiliate them. They're perfectly capable of being civil under the right circumstances. And for once we didn't get the "mean people fall in mud" ending.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:38 pm

ThunderBunny wrote:*sigh*

I hated this. So. Much.


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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:39 pm

Thunder, I thought the episode was pretty good, except, Sweetie Belle's voice annoyed me a few times... And her stupidity with the plan...But we must realize, they are KIDS acting like KIDS. Did you expect a kid to do anything else? Sorry if I am being harsh, but I guess we need to look at that.

The episode was actually enjoyable to me. It had a lot of comedic moments for me and it was pretty fun to watch and laugh at the stupidity. The Hayburger place I agree was cool, as it just made them all canon.

All in all, great episode! It was much better than Simple Times...That lovey dovey crushy stuff...sorry...Please keep that out of it...

Best part of the episode? The coughing fit and Apple Blooms subsequent comment. That was just great.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:43 pm

All of them have amazing voices and you're wrong. :wingsright:
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Postby Pocket (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:43 pm

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:46 pm

Aramek wrote:All of them have amazing voices and you're wrong. :wingsright:


This guy gets it. I love the CMC all equally and think they're some of the greatest characters of the show.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:46 pm

Richy33 wrote:Thunder, I thought the episode was pretty good, except, Sweetie Belle's voice annoyed me a few times... And her stupidity with the plan...But we must realize, they are KIDS acting like KIDS. Did you expect a kid to do anything else? Sorry if I am being harsh, but I guess we need to look at that.

This is definitely something that's worth remembering. Consider the way the CMC were back in S1, when they were almost single-mindedly focused on getting their cutie marks. Sure, kids are sometimes like that, but that doesn't make for good television. Once they moved past that in S2 and beyond, I really came to like them since their stories felt so much more real and relatable than when they just wanted their magic butt stamps.
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:48 pm

Aramek wrote:All of them have amazing voices and you're wrong. :wingsright:


Except Rarity with a Southern Accent. >_> That is atrocious.

Normally, you are correct, just the squeakerness of Sweetie Belle showed and it just was a little more grating than normal at some points. That's all. Otherwise, it was fine.
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:52 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:This is definitely something that's worth remembering. Consider the way the CMC were back in S1, when they were almost single-mindedly focused on getting their cutie marks. Sure, kids are sometimes like that, but that doesn't make for good television. Once they moved past that in S2 and beyond, I really came to like them since their stories felt so much more real and relatable than when they just wanted their magic butt stamps.


Aye. Even then, they were funny episodes, with their silly attempts to get their cutie marks. But they seem a little bit more like kids now a days, and I guess yes, we all can relate to that.

So, what do y'all think about the diary thing? Personally, I see it as a little bit of a time waster or a filler, but it replaces the letter system that used to be around, so I guess it has a point.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:53 pm

Richy33 wrote:Normally, you are correct, just the squeakerness of Sweetie Belle showed and it just was a little more grating than normal at some points. That's all. Otherwise, it was fine.

Unless I'm misremembering things, she seems a lot less squeaky this season than she used to be. Maybe the few squeaks that she makes these days stand out far more than they used to?
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:57 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Unless I'm misremembering things, she seems a lot less squeaky this season than she used to be. Maybe the few squeaks that she makes these days stand out far more than they used to?


That is possible, and it is probably what is happening. I also never noticed this before...Sorry...
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:25 pm

It's hard to call this a Twilight episode. She's just the supervising adult figurehead for a CMC episode here. Probably my biggest disappointment for the episode
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 23, 2014 7:30 pm

Wayoshi wrote:It's hard to call this a Twilight episode. She's just the supervising adult figurehead for a CMC episode here. Probably my biggest disappointment for the episode

In that vein, would you say Stare Master wasn't a Fluttershy episode? While Twilight had perhaps a little less representation here than Fluttershy did there, it was still a lot more than she's had for pretty much the entire season. PTS had the usual big two-parter story starring her and there was also Three's a Crowd, but past that Twilight has mostly been a disappointing non-entity. As such, I'm still inclined to call this a Twilight episode, given her situation nowadays.
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