S05E03: Castle Sweet Castle

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Re: S05E03: Castle Sweet Castle

Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:02 am

The episode's up on iTunes.

Still no season pass. :ohrarity:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:25 am

Yeah, what's with that? I do not recall it ever being this late. In the meantime, I bought passes for Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Steven Universe… but I want pony! :gonkity:

That Daniel Ingram has released the latest collection of MLP:FiM songs helps, though.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:35 pm

I still can't help but wonder if S5 will be only 13 episodes long. Has it been confirmed at all that S5 will be a full-length season?
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 12:46 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I still can't help but wonder if S5 will be only 13 episodes long. Has it been confirmed at all that S5 will be a full-length season?


Possibly not, though it was mentioned that we can expect something like 15 (iirc, from the Babscon music panel) songs in Season 5. So either they're really packing them in, or it's a regular length season.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 1:09 pm

I'm pretty sure it'll be a full 24 episodes long as well. Didn't we get confirmation of that a while back?
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Postby Ransom (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:35 pm

So, I saw this posted elsewhere...

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They knew! :starity:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:12 pm

I'm 95% sure S5 has been confirmed for 26 eps. It's just going to be spread out for awhile soon.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 4:56 pm

So, there's going to be a few weeks where the show takes a hiatus?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:03 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:So, there's going to be a few weeks where the show takes a hiatus?


The broadcast date for the 100th episode (episode 9) was revealed as June 13. Unless they are airing episodes out of order, then there are going to be 3 ponyless weeks between May 2 (episode 6) and then.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:42 pm

That's weird, Cinemaquestria's schedule listed new episodes being aired at that time. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Marimo (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:24 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I still can't help but wonder if S5 will be only 13 episodes long. Has it been confirmed at all that S5 will be a full-length season?

Yes. Jayson even mentioned 2 days ago that there are still 23 more episodes left.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:31 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:That's weird, Cinemaquestria's schedule listed new episodes being aired at that time. :pinkieshrug:


Probably an assumption on their part. One of the VA's revealed the June 13th date for episode 9, and I think Jason or Jim confirmed it. Also, were we were getting a steady stream of new episode synopsis a few weeks ago, there wasn't a drop of episode 7's title or synopsis last week, so May 9 might be the first Ponyless Saturday.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:02 pm

Huh...still, I'd rather have shorter weekly breaks than a indeterminably long one. :v:
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:14 pm

A bit late to the party, but I wanted to watch the episode at home with Zoon.

Weird pacing, the episode drags on and meanders in places, but it makes up for being a cute, simple story with lots of cute little horsie friends moments. Song wasn't anything special, but nice enough. This episode won't be a hot favorite of mine, but it was hella cute, which is one of the main things I watch this show for anyway. :allears: I hope the writer duo tightens up their stories a bit in the future though.

Some favorites: Spike having to stall the hell out of everything, Bulk Biceps doing massages, the callbacks fitting well into the story.
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Postby Jill (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:04 am

Main screen turn on. Remarkdump initialize.

  • Fluttershy subtly acknowledges that ponies are animals too. :allears:
  • As does Angel, in his own jerkass way. :saddershy:
  • An entire afternoon rearranging 12 identical gems.
  • "Picture of me winning a race" :v:
  • Applejack must not think too highly of this fancy new castle if she's decided to dump dirt all over the floor.
  • Bear hug! :yay: Fluts' voice even strains a bit there. I don't know why such attention to detail surprises me anymore.
  • "... how we make this castle a home goddamn mess."
  • Maybe Applejack is the element of honesty because she's just that terrible at lying.
  • Spike's honest reaction. Comic relief, or just plain relief?
  • I wouldn't be surprised if Twilight actually likes what they've done with the place.
  • Now Fluttershy is being passive-agressive. Damn. :whatsup:
  • Pinkie at least seems willing to compromise. If she could. :cheese:
  • "Everypony knows babies are terrible sleepers." :smirk:
  • "I didn't know you could be loud enough to echo!"
  • "Remember the time it got BLOWN UP to smithereens?" god damn it Pinkie when have you ever been this funny
  • Fluttershy's girly gestures after they're done hanging the... thing. :allears:
  • The thing. It's glorious. And has magic gems that depict memories???

That was a cute, fun, and heartwarming story. Pretty much everything I watch this show for. A+ :yay:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:13 am

Random Pinkie joke I caught on rewatch.

Twilight enters the room, sees the Tree Chandelier. Shot establishes that it is very high above the table.


:gotcha: No explanation given, Pinkie picks up one of the crystals to tell Twilight about it.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:05 am

Yeah, I guess only Twilight gets to see the memory gems, at least until Spike earns his wings.

Jill wrote:
  • An entire afternoon rearranging 12 identical gems.

This one's an antique!
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Postby Wylie (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:10 am

AJ definitely got autotuned, most noticeably on her line while she's walking on the barrel- "let's all work together..."

Honestly, it sounds like more an autotuning error that got through more than anything else. It is possible to use autotune responsibly, after all, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they've done it before and we just didn't notice because they don't take it to Cher levels.
This is probably especially true for the characters who are actually sung by their VA's- RD, AJ, and I believe Andrea does Flut's singing voice herself. Ashleigh Ball is a singer in her own right, of course, but that still doesn't make it easy for her to sing in AJ's voice reliably- her own natural range is much higher, as I recall.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:25 am

As someone who works with autotuning on a daily basis, I can definitely tell it's been used before on the show. Other than on this episode's song, it's probably the most clearly noticeable on The Perfect Stallion. Autotune is most likely used to varying degrees on every song with vocals. Time is always a factor in recording sessions. Every take costs money, and often it's a better choice from a budget standpoint to fix tuning issues in post rather than hammering the same take out over and over during the session while the clock is ticking.
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:58 am

I really liked this episode, actually. Just really cute all the way through. All six - hell, seven - were represented really well. A pretty feel-good ending. A lot of good funny moments here. Was it kind of childish? Well, yeah, but look what you're fuckin' watching here. Good episode, here.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:30 am

:cheese: :"Why does your voice sound so strange?"
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:26 am

Octavia wrote:As someone who works with autotuning on a daily basis, I can definitely tell it's been used before on the show. Other than on this episode's song, it's probably the most clearly noticeable on The Perfect Stallion. Autotune is most likely used to varying degrees on every song with vocals. Time is always a factor in recording sessions. Every take costs money, and often it's a better choice from a budget standpoint to fix tuning issues in post rather than hammering the same take out over and over during the session while the clock is ticking.


As someone who's terrible at music I've never noticed it (that AJ line doesn't bother me either), but RD's voice at the start of the song really brings me out of it. It sounds so weird :-I
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Postby Dee Cee (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:15 am

Jill wrote:
  • An entire afternoon rearranging 12 identical gems.


Hey, there's 479,001,600 possible arrangements for 12 gems; going through 'em all and picking the best one in a single afternoon is pretty darn impressive. :twiright:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:03 am

Knowing Twilight, she could probably do it quicker than that. :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 1:18 pm

If she had in mind a specific means by which to arrange them, sure. But when it comes to aesthetics, there generally aren't such rules by which to organize things, so Rarity would surely spend hours agonizing over it.

Of course, knowing Twilight Sparkle, if she had to do that then she'd most likely just pick their order at random, figure that's good enough, and string them up.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:13 pm

So...can someone (Octavia?) explain what autotune is? :-I
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:41 pm

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto-Tune
Pitch correction, usually to a subtler effect. I guess it's best used to shift pitches when a singer is slightly off.




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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:44 pm

I'm no musician but I think it's when the pitch is digitally edited. It didn't really become a thing in music until Cher used it in her song Believe.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:44 pm

Bakertoons wrote:So...can someone (Octavia?) explain what autotune is? :-I


Auto-tune is a post processing tool to basically alter singing to make it sound exactly how you want. You can take an audio clip and "tune" it to the note you want. In many cases it's used to clean up a singing performance to "perfect" it. In other cases it's used as a crutch to make up for people who can't really sing at all. In either case, damn near 100% of all major record label artists use it.

In some cases, like T-Pain, it's very obvious, and the heavy Auto-Tune is kind of a gimmick. Others, like what was used in MLP is a bit more subtle.

Then you get stuff like this, where they can make people sing, who weren't singing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:53 pm

Master_Twig wrote:Then you get stuff like this, where they can make people sing, who weren't singing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw


Also:



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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:50 pm

Autotune isn't just used on vocals. If you listen to an entire violin section playing, it sounds like they're all playing as one in tune, but if you were to individually listen to each violin in the section, you'd find that some are sharp and some are flat. But when they all play together, it averages out to being in tune. The more violins playing in unison, the more in tune it sounds. The worst number of instruments to be playing in unison is 2. The slight differences in tune are the most noticeable, much more noticeable than one instrument playing solo. If you're writing a part for 2 instruments, make sure they're playing a lot of harmonies and not a lot of unison.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 7:46 pm

Or play a fretted instrument, you backwards luddite. :gotcha:
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:55 pm

Homeswirl wrote:Or play a fretted instrument, you backwards luddite. :gotcha:

Two fretted instruments in unison still don't sound exactly the same :-P
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Postby Wylie (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:10 pm

Fretless instruments (like all orchestral strings) are actually easier to play in tune in unison than fretted instruments, because the players (if they have a well-trained ear) can adjust to each other more easily.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:35 pm

Octavia wrote:Two fretted instruments in unison still don't sound exactly the same :-P

In the studio they do (if you're not a slob), without autotune. Live performance, yeah I'll concede the point.
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:08 pm

I tune all my guitars by ear and they sound fine usually. :chillin:
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Tue Apr 14, 2015 11:55 pm

Frosthawk wrote:I tune all my guitars by ear and they sound fine usually. :chillin:

I was expecting you to enlighten us on the true history of autotune, Mr. Rig Dweller!
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:20 am

So somebody pointed this out to me. The voice credits for this episode:

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They forgot to credit Tara Strong for voicing Twilight :-I
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:22 am

That's like the time the German dub of Friendship is Magic accidentally used the Dutch intro song once. :v:
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