Re: S04E20: For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils
Sorry I'm such a scrooge about the CMC, errybody.


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ThunderBunny wrote:I don't like watching people be assholes
ThunderBunny wrote:Oops, I didn't answer your initial question, Fizzbuzz, but like The Doctor I assume the CMC are in the 8-10 range.
PictishBeast wrote:
Well there's your problem right there. People being assholes to each other is the foundation of comedy. And drama.![]()
ThunderBunny wrote:Despite any evidence to the contrary, I assure you I'm actually a very pleasant person in real life.
PictishBeast wrote: Rarity's playing for high stakes in the Equestrian fashion industry.
ThunderBunny wrote:
Heck yes she is. Rarity is amazing and I love her. Maybe that's the REAL reason I disliked this episode. I see someone about to mess with Rarity and I'm like I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!!!!![]()
Sapphire Shores came off really weird to me for whatever reason.
Angel Beat wrote:That was my very first thought when I saw that.
PictishBeast wrote:
And I don't think it's just a kid thing either. I could see Rarity doing something similar if pushed (see how desperately she wanted to sabotage Fluttershy in Green Isn't Your Color).
sailoryue wrote:She reminds me of Beyonce, which doesnt translate very well as a pony
Kate wrote:there are as many female characters in the base game as there are Cole McGraths
The Doctor wrote:Rarity is closer friends with Fluttershy than the other four. She might have fleeting thoughts of sabotaging Fluttershy, but she had no intentions of acting upon them.
On the other hand, she didn't really think twice about upstaging and ruining Rainbow Dash's performance in Sonic Rainboom.
The Doctor wrote:Rarity is closer friends with Fluttershy than the other four. She might have fleeting thoughts of sabotaging Fluttershy, but she had no intentions of acting upon them.
On the other hand, she didn't really think twice about upstaging and ruining Rainbow Dash's performance in Sonic Rainboom.
Headless Horse wrote:What I really appreciated, though, was the rather unusual, even novel texture of it. It's talky, it's grown-up, it's subtle, and there's hardly any of the comedy we've come to expect from even the heaviest-feeling episodes. Despite the exotic new concepts like the cloud nightmare and the dreamscape and Sapphire Shores' Canterlot studio, it felt like this was one of the most down-to-earth, character-driven slices-of-life I've ever seen the show do.
Niels Olof wrote:
I think not. Sure, she was jealous, but she felt terrible about it. Rarity is much, much more self-aware than Sweetie Belle (and an altogether nicer person. “Beautiful heart”, remember?)
I remember Lauren mentioned a Big Mac episode she wanted to do with almost no dialogue, but Hasbro stopped her developing it. At this point, I honestly think they could get away with that. Which is pretty exciting for the show, going forward.
Tears wrote:
I've loved all your write-ups on this ep Niels (and so many of everyone else's, some really really great critiques in this thread), but look at Rarity in the Cutie Mark Chronicles when she's snapping at her teacher for having the audacity to praise her insufficiently-bedazzled pageant costumes. I bet Rarity had the capacity to be a total hellion when she was a kid
Niels Olof wrote:
Indubitably (and the "A ROCK!?" incident demonstrated that she also had a temper back then). Sister like sister. Happily, Rarity grew up, and matured. As will Sweetie Belle, no doubt. She's grown considerable in this very episode.
Tears wrote:
I love how their similarities and differences, and how they can be similar even when they think they're being different![]()
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I don't want a straight sequel to Cutie Mark Chronicles, but I'd love a low stakes flashback episode just to see Rarity being a little madam when she was a kid.
Actually, a straight sequel to Cutie Mark Chronicles is exactly what I want. Tia writers.
ClaudiaZG wrote:But like if you don't relate this:
to this:
You're wrong
Can't believe that reference, best episode ever
Headless Horse wrote:On the "talkiness" point, I want to point out what is possible the Polskiest Polsky scene since the train-car in Over a Barrel: the sequence of Sweetie Belle lying in bed and too pissed off to sleep.
Tossing and turning. Punching her pillow. Going into the bathroom to get a drink. Just completely consumed with the emotions roiling through her head and the images of the fantasy monster she's ginned up her sister to be.
The show takes its time conveying these feelings, letting them play out nice and deliberately, and with a minimum of out-loud soliloquizing too—even though it's only Sweetie Belle on her own, without anyone else present to converse with, all her body language and the passage of time and the nicely textured music (seriously, punching her pillow) make the point as thoroughly and organically as we could wish.
DaBatGuy wrote:My only complaint would be the dolphin stitch idea Sweetie had which didn’t make much sense. Yes, Sweetie saw dolphins in her dreams but at no point was it established that the dolphins were from Sapphire Shore’s dream and not just random dream imagery. Simply showing Sapphire swimming with the dolphins during the dream sequence would have been enough to fix that plot point.
ClaudiaZG wrote:
Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote:i am not ready for the transhumanist revolution to begin with my butt
Headless Horse wrote:I feel like I also want to comment more on the "Sweetie Belle's magic" thing. I think it's pretty noteworthy that they had her use it in this episode, and specifically in a way that wasn't really a plot point. I feel like the way the episodes have played out recently, with Twilight Time establishing clearly and unmistakably that the show wants us to know that she can levitate things now, is significant in some way. And they took full advantage of that fact by having her use magic to undo the stitch and to close the box back up. Yet it seems like they didn't have to do it that way. Sweetie could have sewn using her mouth (she's done it before, though of course not well). It ultimately wasn't important to the story that she be magic-enabled. It made it a little more believable, but it didn't come off as something that had to have been set up properly by prior developments in order to make sense.
I think what I'm saying is that at least with what we've seen thus far, the "Sweetie's magic arc" isn't so much an arc as it is just a sequence of episodes that have to take place in a clearly defined order. There isn't really an endgame to it, unless of course one is still to come. It's just an indication that the show has hurled to the four winds any directive that the episodes must all be able to be rebroadcast in any order without context.
Scuderia Ferrarity wrote:That's right. She started by shooting sparks, and then struggling to levitate a broom, and now she can do the same light telekinesis most unicorns already do on a day to day basis. It just happened as a manner, of course.
Also, we're seeing Scootaloo fly a bit further off the ground. And we also see Applebloom doing more of whatever it is that earth ponies do.
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