S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

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Re: S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

Postby Dragongem (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 1:23 am

I really enjoyed the princess song. The ending song felt very "HEY THIS IS A SEASON ENDING SONG, ETC"
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 1:32 am

I guess my main reason for liking the second song was the beginning sounded like Hearts Strong as Horses, and I liked the message of the song, and the visuals are just a real nice wrap-up for the season, the Mane 6 being lovable dorks, the whole town being there part "Sweet we got a castle" and part "What the hell is this doing here?", and then we get to see the characters all helped by the Mane 6, and then we get that nice group photo at the end.

I dunno it was just a nice way to end such an over-the-top episode, surprisingly low-key........except for the giant ass crystal Yggdrasil that's now in the middle of Ponyville. :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 1:37 am

DerFurShur wrote:I dunno it was just a nice way to end such an over-the-top episode, surprisingly low-key........except for the giant ass crystal Yggdrasil that's now in the middle of Ponyville. :v:

Given the building in it, it's more like Yggdrcastil. :v:
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 1:40 am

I see what you did there.......and I approve :sbahj:
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Postby Veradox (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 2:46 am

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Those books would have been much better off with the poor little pony who had the broken quill, rather than being turned into smoldering ashes on the ground. Thanks Pinkie. :rainbert:

(Isn't there a Pinkie Sense for "Your house is going to be destroyed by a gigantic fireball"?) :v:


I laughed way too hard at that.
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Postby Dilbert As Fuck (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 2:47 am

Good way to end the series and step off the ride.

Thank ya'll this is a nice forum you all have, and have some good people here I think. It's been fun all.

I'll try to stream bronycon for ya'll, but thanks for the ride, it was fun. I think if I ever want to continue this ride I should just go back to /co/...

I just want this to go down as the little show that could.

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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 2:51 am

The HSQ (Holy Shit Quotient) is strong with this one. :-I
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 3:11 am

Listening to the Princess song, I like it. Well once the three start singing. Twilight's part is kind of lackluster in comparison.



This Day Aria didn't really let Britt McKillip show off her talent, but her bit at 2:25 lets her show off her skills.

:gotcha: She'll still always be Reggie to me though.



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Postby Ransom (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 3:21 am

I can see the emotion at the Treehouse being destroyed. I saw somebody say it's as close as we've had to a main character being killed off and...in a way I can see it. I hope there's at least a moment of acknowledgment in the next season.

Much as I liked the episode, it's things like wishing we had a moment to reflect on the loss of the treehouse that makes me wish the show was longer. Looking at several of these season 'endcaps'...Crystal Empire, Cantorlot Wedding, Return of Harmony, Princess Twilight Sparkle...how many of them would have benefitted from a 60-90 minute runtime to flesh things out? Why can't we get our MLP movie taking place in Equestria proper?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 3:25 am

:rant: Whine whine whine. Stop complaining about the stupid tree.

:deflated: THEY KILLED BONELESS!

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Postby drunkill (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 3:40 am

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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 3:59 am

Well, that was fun.
I went into the episodes blind (and had to wait quite a bit to get them to my hotel here at Belo Horizonte), and what a ride.

Finally, a proper Princess Twilight episode. I have only seen the episodes once, but they managed (again) to cram an amazing amount of plot and action into two episodes. It's going to be interesting to see how they will utilize Princess Twilight's new home. (Are they all just going to be sitting in their respective chairs, and do what?). I was of course sad to see the library go, but if a loss had to be made to signify the import of the crisis, a public building was an acceptable candidate.

The title stands out as a bit of an oddity — magic and friendship are Princess Twilight's domain and responsibility, but how far does her Kingdom extend? Her new castle and environs? It is of course possible that just as the Kingdom of the Day, and the Kingdom of the Night overlaps over the same territory (ignoring Princess Cadence, whose claim seems territorial), so might the Kingdom of Friendship cover the entire domain. Will she hold court, I wonder? :allears:

It was good to hear all the princesses sing together (Tara Strong wasn't really carrying it on her own). It is always a pleasure to hear Kazumi Evans. After all, all the best ponies know to use the best singers for that particular part of their life. Team work!

Discord's betrayal did not exactly come as a surprise (I never trusted the erstwhile garden gnome). Tartarus seems to be a place of containment rather than punishment. As the twice reformed Discord does not need containment (he is no threat anymore), he is free. I do not think Equestrian law deals with retribution as a viable method to achieve justice. An eye for an eye tends to lead to a lot of blind people. Discord is here to stay, but I can only hope that he will be used sparingly.

I had not seen the Rainbow Powered ponies before, and as my primary fear was alleviated ("please don't be permanent" :gonkity: :gonkity:), I can probably stand to see it pop up from time to time. They're still all far prettier without it, though.


This, then, is the end of pony for a while. :fluttersmith: It's been a good season overall. I have a few episodes that I'll only rarely if ever rewatch, but mostly it has been a good bunch. Once again we face a Drought, though I suppose there will be a movie in the interim. I guess I can go back to being frustrated by fan fiction and the presumptuousness of its authors . :applejargh:
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:00 am

Man, that was a fun pair of episodes. And I think if I had to pick a favorite thing about them, that would be it: it was just fun! Were there pacing issues in some parts? Sure. Were there some plot holes and logic gaps (particularly in the second part?) Yeah, I can see that. Was it the absolute epitome of a perfect two-parter? No, I personally don't think so.

But for me, none of that stuff matters. Season 4 has been a hell of a lot of fun. At a time when a lot of people were convinced that the show had officially "jumped the shark," the folks at DHX proved that they had yet another fantastic run up their sleeves. Now they've capped it off with a finale just as fun and enjoyable as this whole season. And for that, I can't complain.

I loved the real, honest addressing of Twilight's princess status, and what it means to her. If Princess Twilight Sparkle was parts 2 and 3 of Magical Mystery Cure, then these two were a splendid 4 and 5. Most importantly, this show continues to make me truly care about its characters. I wanted Twilight to discover her place and meaning in the world. I wanted her to succeed when it looked like all hope was lost. My heart shattered to see Fluttershy's reaction to Discord's betrayal. I broke out into a fully genuine smile of happiness upon seeing our six favorite ponies emerge victorious. And when the rainbow flew around, showing us Silver Shill, Cheese Sandwich, etc. - I had such a joyous feeling in my heart. I was captivated, entertained, and emotionally intrigued by this finale. And frankly, what more can I ask for?

The villain was great. Total badass, and I like his design and voice very much. Perhaps I'm in too deep at this point, but I still declare that King Sombra remains the undisputed villain champ! Sorry Tirek. :gotcha: But as far as awesome battles go, Tirek has legit taken the cake. I'm still floored that I can say the phrase Wow, that was such a cool battle. Super epic! And when I say that, I'm referring to My Little Pony - My Little Pony! I can only speak for myself here, but sometimes I have no problem with enjoying something simply for the mindless action and spectacle. FiM doesn't do it often, but when it does, I'm glad to know that they can do it so well.

Songs were great. I liked the first one much, much more. They were both enjoyable, but I suspect the first one is gonna stick with me in a way the second won't. And the background music: really just make a conscious effort to hear the background music as it plays out. Damn, we have got some great talent working on this show! :allears:

Having said all of that stuff, I am really bummed to see Golden Oaks go up in flames. Who'd have thought I'd get so attached to a fictional tree house? But the library was such a great part of Ponyville's small town charm. Not sure how I feel about replacing it with a garish sparkle castle. But hey, if this show has taught me anything, it's that I really, really, really shouldn't judge something prematurely. The good folks at DHX have earned my benefit of the doubt a thousand times over. Besides, it's just a minor nitpick anyways. :pinkieshrug:

In conclusion, I enjoyed this finale to bits (even though I don't think I'd dare to call it my favorite two-parter). Season 4 has been so astoundingly wonderful - and I do think I'd dare to call it my favorite season. And as far as I'm concerned, today's episode(s) represent a well-deserved and satisfying conclusion to another run of amazing pony goodness. I'm glad I was able to experience it - an even more so with some fine folks on a great forum. It's been tons of fun, and I look forward to much more in Season 5! :-P
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Postby reidransom (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:00 am

Definitely a more epic battle than I would have ever expected of My Little Pony. Great episode, just really pretty much awesome all around. Didn't care for the first song much, though. Just felt a little too, I dunno, expositiony or something. Aside from that, great.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:18 am

I just realized, This episode had the series first on screen death of innocents. The Bee's. Twilight saved Owlicious, but not the beehive on her little TreeBrary.

R.I.P bees, 2010-2014. :fluttersmith:

:twonk: :gonkity: TIREEEEKKKK!!!!

:amazing: I can't Bee-lieve they're gone.

:rainbert: .....seriously.

:party: hachcha.


And yeah, I agree the ep had a lot of exposition, but it was also kinda nesseccary. This Was Pony Ball Z the movie er 40 some ought minute special. Sure if you pick at it you can find flaws, but as for me, this was the bast dang thing I've seen on TV in some time! 11/10. Over 9000!! A++

My only real complaint.... I wanted to see more types of ponies when Tirek was attacking villages & stealing magic... But hey, maybe Changlings, Bat Ponies & Sea Ponies just live too far away from the capital for him to care, looks like he left Manehatten be as well, so yeah.

For me this was Series Finale material, I can't believe we're getting a season 5!

Speaking of which I hope we get a Discord/Fluttershy ep next season, I imagine Discord probably feels guilty about betraying her trust, Id like to see an ep where he tries to make it up to her, in his typical Discord fashion. XD

Also now that Twys' beaten the final boss & won her game, maybe season 5's finale can focus on Dash graduating to full fledged Wonderbolt or the CMC getting their marks! #knockonwood
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Postby Minty (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:20 am

It's a good thing Spike was already out of the library.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:23 am

You know, I'm wondering if Twilight jumping out with Owlicious was added by the storyboard artist. Like, McCarthy forgot to write him in the script, so the board artist had to add it to show that he survived.
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Postby Eshe (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:33 am

I actually had to pause half way in the battle, simply because it was too epic. :awesomedash:

Discord's betrayal didn't come as a surprise to me, because I unfortunately saw the spoilers on the forum while trying to find an online version. However, I was surprised with how they handled it - I quite like it. I think Discord's reformation went a little deeper than most people thought.

For Discord, Tirek was kind of like Gilda was to RD. They were bigger, badder, more fun to be around and participated in their favourite activities - for Dash, it was flying and for Discord, it was creating chaos. Tirek gave Discord free reign to do what he liked and that was pretty cool for someone who's most excitement in the last while was having tea with a pony. Seriously, Discord has been a being of chaos and destruction for centuries! Those kinds of loves/habits don't disppear in a day/season. Artists, imagine if you had to give up your lifelong love of life. Discord loves disorder - heck, his name is even chaotic!

Despite this, Discord has grown used to Fluttershy and their friendship. When Tirek gave Discord the symbol of "gratitude and loyalty", Discord believed him. He truely believed Tirek wanted him at his side. He trusted a villan. He was touched even! To him, Tirek essentially announced that he wanted to be partners with Discord (and isn't "friend" a synonym of partner?!) That's because "growing up" (mentally) with ponies, Discord has come to accept that everyone is honest and acts in goodwill toward their friends/partners.

When Discord is betrayed by Tirek and AJ basically raises her eyebrow and asks "surely you saw this coming?" Discord's response "I didn't, I truly didn't" is the response of broken trust and crushed partnership. He thought he had new, cooler friends and it mattered to him!

In conclusion, I think Discord's actions still have some catching up to do, but his inner self is "reformed" and I think that's pretty cool. :gotcha:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:36 am

I'd be super-duper surprised if S5 didn't have multiple explicit acknowledgments of the tree->castle transition and how garish it is and how much they miss the tree. In fact if they don't at least make some kind of gesture toward rebuilding or regrowing the tree (c'mon, we got earth ponies their land-tending powers back right?), I dunno, fruit hat or something.

Items of note:

- The scene of Tirek and Discord talking between themselves in the alley, one supernatural Big Bad villain to another. Wow. What a great little piece of dialogue, right? No ponies in sight, and in fact they get to make some out-of-band comments about those ridiculous little equines. It's nice and leisurely, too, which is important if it's going to sell the idea of Discord turning for real.

- Discord's backstab reflecting poorly on Fluttershy? We were all worried about this. But look how it turned out. It turned out well. I don't think less of her. And the parallel revelation on Discord's part is a crucial part of that—it means I don't have to think less of him either. This entire episode is all about sacrifice—there's sacrifices all over the place throughout it from beginning to end, from the alicorns giving up their powers to us giving up the tree to Twilight giving up her powered-up status for the sake of her friends. And the fact that she makes that sacrifice even for Discord (and that Tirek even points out how inadvisable a move that is, tabletop-game-wise) is the chief moment of clarity for the whole story. It's where Discord finally comes to understand the power of sacrifice, and where he finally comes to be sincere in his up-till-now half-committed and just-as-long-as-it-amuses-me-and-the-cucumber-sandwiches-keep-coming lip-service to friendship. He finally gets it. It took going through that whole ordeal, being stripped of even the choice to keep being a friend, being robbed of any shred of honor or pride or justification for what he had done, and then still being forgiven and sacrificed for that has finally shown him what a valuable thing it is that he's been dabbling in. I think it's all but certain that he'll be less of a ruthless prankster from now on (not that they won't find other things to do with him that will be funny).

- The visuals in the fight, god damn. That is all.

- Flash Sentry gets a speaking role :gotcha:

- Plot holes, sure, whatever—but it's all worth it for the scenes of Twilight raising the sun and trying to conceal her power from her friends. Randomly teleporting all over the place, leaving craters when she lands :v: (and is that the first time the show has actually called it "teleportation"?)

- The recap scenes that spelled out how the key episodes all fitted together were handled very nicely, I thought. It wasn't too tiresome or leading. It was necessary for the target audience (who may or may not have already figured this stuff out just as fast as we all did), but it also didn't feel condescending. I got a nice little rush seeing the various flashbacks to the inspiration moments and the name-drops of the one-off characters in question.

- Oh yeah, one other thing about the fight. I think if you just snip that scene out, you've got the perfect thing to send around to people who refuse to give this stupid pony fad the time of day or who take one glance at it and dismiss it as the province of idiot manbabies. Not that I'm about to do any such thing, but I predict that some such clip will become one of the most shared and aggressively commented-upon pony videos on YouTube in coming weeks :-I



God, what a great season. :ponydrugs:
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:38 am

Strangepony wrote:Great episode, but I hate that Discord was instantly forgiven for the horrible things he did this episode. He rounded up victims for Tirek! Why is he not rotting in Tartarus after that?

Watching it, I was thinking that he had a Fluttershy clause in his deal with Tirek. But no, she got locked up and drained along with the rest of the mane six.

I just don't get it. :pinkieshrug:


He got fucked over, he felt legitimately bad, and a princess vouched for him. He messed up but being a goon to an ultimately not very damaging plot gave him some leeway.
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Postby ComradeCosmobot (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:46 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:I just realized, This episode had the series first on screen death of innocents. The Bee's. Twilight saved Owlicious, but not the beehive on her little TreeBrary.

R.I.P bees, 2010-2014. :fluttersmith:


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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:48 am

There were hints of Discord regretting his decision even before the betrayal, too. Like when Shining Armor said "how could you?", him casually mentioning Rarity in regards to fashion, and him covering his eyes when Tirek sucked out all the magic from the caged ponies. So it wasn't like he felt bad out of nowhere in a snap.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:52 am

Can we have a little love as well for the visual of Tirek melting down Twilight's stained-glass mural? Dayum, that was creepy-looking!
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:55 am

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  • The alley where the first pony gets attacked by Tirek appears to be the same one where Trixie finds the mysterious shop of dangerous artifacts.
    :twonk: Why do we even have that alley?!


Thank you for this :lol:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:56 am

Recap scenes could have been belabored, there's six of them, with their own unique stories across the season but the writing whisked us through briskly.

:twismug: : "Rainbow Dash, you had the chance to fly with the Wonderbolts at the Equestria Games, but instead you chose to compete with your friends."
:3: :"Sure! But being loyal to my friends was way–"
:) :"Ooh, my turn, my turn!"
:excite: : "Pinkie Pie you realized that ... [Continues without missing a beat.]"

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 4:57 am

So much property damage in a show about magical talking ponies preaching love & friendship. :gotcha:

I bet Meghan would hire out an anime studio to animate season 5 if she could. XD

I recommend Studio Trigger Myself.

MLP S5 Little Pony Academia. :smug:
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:00 am

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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:02 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:So much property damage in a show about magical talking ponies preaching love & friendship. :gotcha:

I bet Meghan would hire out an anime studio to animate season 5 if she could. XD

I recommend Studio Trigger Myself.

MLP S5 Little Pony Academia. :smug:

Actually, similar to how "Adventure Time" has an upcoming episode guest-directed by Masaaki Yuasa, I'm all for a "Pony" episode guest-directed by the guy who did "Little Witch Academia". And he's allowed to do whatever he wants.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:09 am

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:09 am

Mr. Big wrote:Actually, similar to how "Adventure Time" has an upcoming episode guest-directed by Masaaki Yuasa, I'm all for a "Pony" episode guest-directed by the guy who did "Little Witch Academia". And he's allowed to do whatever he wants.



That would be the single best thing in the history of things!!! :-D

*someone go beg the MLP staff to make it happen! NAO!!! :-I *
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:11 am

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PONY READ THE BOOK


:starity: how often (in the show) have we seen AJ without the hat?

Not including :flirt:
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Postby Jyu (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:19 am

That scene when Celestia has a vision of Tirek's return was really off to me. I don't have any problem with Celestia and Luna having these visions of great evil that's approaching (though I guess it is a lazy storytelling device but I don't really care :v: ) The whole scene is just poorly done in my opinion. The dialogue is contrived, the pacing is off and the voicing acting was poor. The whole episode was great, but this one scene I could live without.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:20 am

At this point, I think only a little time travel and history changing could bring back Golden Oaks. I hope the producers think about how important the library was and figure out some way to restore it. :twiright:

:pcstare: I had a terrible dream!

:ohboy: :scootawoo: How terrible was it?
:speakest: The fun has been doubled!
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:26 am

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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:27 am

I might have to watch it again, but I'm feeling pretty lukewarm about the finale. The epicness didn't grab me and the DBZ punch out was overdone. I don't watch MLP to see a pony shoot a laser at the bad guy. Maybe the big fight is just overshadowing the rest of the story for me.

For now, I'm very curious to know why people are cool with the rainbow power ponies when people were so up in arms about the breezies transformation supposedly being a shameless toy tie-in. Rainbow Power is an actual, literal, branded line of toys in stores right now. This episode ties in with these toys and I don't see any complaints about it. It confuses me :conftoot:


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I don't know why people keep saying this. Big epic fights aren't what the show is about and shouldn't be used to try and get people to watch the show.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:28 am

Jyu wrote:That scene when Celestia has a vision of Tirek's return was really off to me. I don't have any problem with Celestia and Luna having these visions of great evil that's approaching (though I guess it is a lazy storytelling device but I don't really care :v: ) The whole scene is just poorly done in my opinion. The dialogue is contrived, the pacing is off and the voicing acting was poor. The whole episode was great, but this one scene I could live without.


:pcstare: Luna, I had the most fearful dream.

:speakest: I had it as well, Sister.

:gotcha: So you were sleeping on the job?
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:31 am

Rainbow Crash wrote:For now, I'm very curious to know why people are cool with the rainbow power ponies when people were so up in arms about the breezies transformation supposedly being a shameless toy tie-in. Rainbow Power is an actual, literal, branded line of toys in stores right now. This episode ties in with these toys and I don't see any complaints about it. It confuses me :conftoot:

A) Mane 6 changed their SPECIES. It was a complete reach out of nowhere
B) We were prepared for this for months
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:37 am

I loved the fight scene, mainly because it was just so unexpected for the show, I mean I doubt well get something like that again, I mean we go from a PPG style fight in S2 finale to a flat out DBZ Brawl in S4's you can call it Unnessecary, as far as action scenes go, it's a nice evolution. If it became a common occurrence, sure it would be annoying. But for an epic finale it works just fine! :awesomedash:

Now next season let's have a Yu-Gi-Oh style fight where the ponies have to play a card game to beat the villain. :gotcha:
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:49 am

Rainbow Crash wrote:For now, I'm very curious to know why people are cool with the rainbow power ponies when people were so up in arms about the breezies transformation supposedly being a shameless toy tie-in. Rainbow Power is an actual, literal, branded line of toys in stores right now. This episode ties in with these toys and I don't see any complaints about it. It confuses me :conftoot:


I wasn't really up in arms about the Breezies thing, either, and I guess for the same reason this doesn't bother me: OF COURSE it's a blatant toy tie-in. The whole show is a blatant toy tie-in, and it really doesn't ever try to hide from that fact. Here, it was actually handled better, I think- they didn't beat us over the head with any dialogue at all about "WOW AREN'T THESE NEW RAINBOW POWER™ FORMS NEAT, KIDS?" like they did with the Breezies. They just were that way for a bit of magical zipping around Equestria returning everyone's powers (in pairs, even- Twi and Rarity to Canterlot and the unicorns, Fluts and Rainbow to the pegasi somewhere below Cloudsdale probably, and Pinkie and AJ to AaAaAppleloosa for the earth ponies). Then, they wordlessly stopped being that way. No big deal.

Rainbow Crash wrote:I don't know why people keep saying this. Big epic fights aren't what the show is about and shouldn't be used to try and get people to watch the show.


An epic fight or two can be a hell of a gateway drug. Remember, in the pilot, Rarity kicked a manticore in the face, and for all we knew, killed a sea serpent with its own razor-sharp scales.
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Postby Ransom (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:52 am

I still loved the finale but...oh I hate to bring this up but I still feel that Discord's magic giving Tirek indigestion would have been great. Have Tirek drag the alicorns around instead of banishing them and have Celestia smugly observe that the chaos magic is hard to control. It would make make the plan to use Discord and give the power to Twilight better and give you a real sense that Twilight could actually win before Tirek pulls the hostage card. Or maybe he only shows symptoms at the end so we don't miss the big fight and he pulls out the dilemma as a desperation move?

Meh I'm think with hindsight. I'll say more positively that whole song with the princesses, regardless of the quality of the music itself, was great for me just to see them being supportive of Twilight. I really wouldn't mind an alicorn focused episode with the four of them.
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