I'll tear us apart. With my mighty hands. Because this owned so much.
Also I think nuChangelings look awesome and my eyes are great. They're obnoxiously loud in color, but that hammers home how elfy and magical these things are, they straight up evolved.
Headless Horse wrote:This is going to be the episode that finally tears us apart, isn't it
Chrysalis playing the really long game
I liked the idea of the changelings turning good and becoming the beings they were presumably always supposed to be, that's a really great message and thematically rich. I'm just not digging the art for them (and it's rare for this show that it's the art design I have a problem with). It's like those garishly stripey looks the ponies get when they do their Tree of Harmony powerup, except that only lasts long enough to blast Tirek but the new changelings are always like this. It's no huge deal, and maybe I'll warm to it, but as of this writing, eh.
As for Celestia, who knows. At this point it shouldn't be a surprise that she gets chumped in the two-parters. It would be more of a pleasant surprise if she didn't, rather than an unpleasant surprise that she has (yet again). At least this time she's not singled out for chumping -- even main character Twilight Sparkle gets taken out off camera. In other words, this time you really could make a case that it happens because the story really requires it, and not because they couldn't think of anything for her to do.
I'm more surprised that Flurry Heart didn't play any sort of role.
Mechanical Ape wrote:I'm more surprised that Flurry Heart didn't play any sort of role.
Seriously, at the start of the season I assumed she'd be a big deal in the finale. Especially since we saw that one changeling in the background at the start of the season. guess that was just Thorax?
But nope, she's just a toy ad*
*for a toy that won't come out till 2019, knowing Hasbro
Highbrow Dash but why would you post such a thing??
I think I just noticed something important about these nuChangelings/Mothlings... Some of them don't have horns or wings!
They went from an alicorn race to a three tribe race! They are devolved ponies!
I wonder if they achieve having wings and horns again do they become princess? They will be legit princesses this time because there is still a queen out there.
If I had a bit for every time you made me feel worthless, I'd be worth something by now.
Soft Snow A shot to the heart... And I'm to blame.
Like "throw rocks at your beloved tamed wild animal you've nursed back to health to make it think you hate it and want it to go away" levels of messed up. Remember how much psychoanalytical juice there was to be squeezed from the scene in Return of Harmony where Fluttershy confronts Discord in the maze, and she defeats his attempts at attacking her self-esteem by simply copping to being weak and helpless, such that he has no choice but to resort to mind control? Yeah. There is some shit going on here.
It's all but one-sided Discord-Fluts shipping at this point.
But yes, this was quite an advanced mindgame to be shown in a little girl's cartoon show.
Soft Snow wrote:I think I just noticed something important about these nuChangelings/Mothlings... Some of them don't have horns or wings!
They went from an alicorn race to a three tribe race! They are devolved ponies!
I wonder if they achieve having wings and horns again do they become princess? They will be legit princesses this time because there is still a queen out there.
I think some of them just had their wings closed under a hard shell, like what beetles have. Notice how the new changelings with their wings open have the halves of their shells open as well.
Fizzbuzz wrote:I think some of them just had their wings closed under a hard shell, like what beetles have. Notice how the new changelings with their wings open have the halves of their shells open as well.
Maybe so. But I did notice a few without the equivalent of a unicorn horn. They were so uniformed before, why the change? What do you think it could mean?
If I had a bit for every time you made me feel worthless, I'd be worth something by now.
Soft Snow A shot to the heart... And I'm to blame.
Soft Snow wrote:Maybe so. But I did notice a few without the equivalent of a unicorn horn. They were so uniformed before, why the change? What do you think it could mean?
The switch from an entirely uniform species with no particular individual traits to a diverse species with unique strengths, weaknesses and abilities (ala ponies)? The episode seems to imply that the Changelings hadn't been meeting their full potential under their old lifestyle, so perhaps this change will see them become less drone-like and more like the other Equestrian races (Yaks, Griffons, Dragons, Ponies, etc).
You know, even if Celestia was unavailable, it would've been nice if Philomena showed up to help. She would've been a good teammate. She may not fit the reformed villain theme but she's very pranky.
Like maybe the anti-magic bubble forces her to revert to her sick chicken self.
PaulloDEC wrote: The switch from an entirely uniform species with no particular individual traits to a diverse species with unique strengths, weaknesses and abilities (ala ponies)? The episode seems to imply that the Changelings hadn't been meeting their full potential under their old lifestyle, so perhaps this change will see them become less drone-like and more like the other Equestrian races (Yaks, Griffons, Dragons, Ponies, etc).
I hope some of the changelings aren't sad that they can't use their magic anymore.
If I had a bit for every time you made me feel worthless, I'd be worth something by now.
Soft Snow A shot to the heart... And I'm to blame.
Was there actually any confirmation that Thorax's lack of lines after he changed was because the people making this show wanted a new actor for him but could not find one at all? I figure it was because the episode wanted to focus on Chrysalis and Starlight with the little time it had left.
I mean if they needed a new voice they could have got someone. Or Jim would have done it himself. I'm sure Thorax's current VA could have done a deeper voice if that's what they're going for.
I think it's simply that there was no reason for him to have a line. Though, I do think they will change it.
I wonder if the new Changelings will generate love or whatever kind of energy they need within themselves, or if they'll still need an external source.
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I'm certain they'll change Thorax's voice, at least a little bit, because keeping his old one as the new Changeling ruler would make any episodes with him feel like The Office.
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For some reason I really like the Changelings cosplaying as the main six. I don't know how the VAs really convey the sense that the characters are all slightly possessed. It isn't just the writing, but they sound like they take a more casual tone of voice.
I get a kick out of the Changlings trying to keep character while being jerks to each other.
What's wrong with you? Why are you being so— Rude? I think a certain dragon didn't get his nap today. Yeah, right. Whatever.
Ta-da! Now was that a convincing Spike or what? Ixnay on the angling-chay... ehhhhhh
I visited my town but things went badly and I left. Very suddenly. In a literal puff of smoke. If you were worried about what they thought of you before, it's probably way worse now. I'd cut my losses. That's... surprising advice, coming from you.
Trust me. I'm the Princess of Friendship.
You don't need those ponies. You can always make more friends.
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Soft Snow wrote:How many changelings would it take to take down a Alicorn?
With enough help, you can achieve anything!
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It was amusing to see Spike-changeling still be the butt of the group, and you can tell the changelings just had a little info on their personalities to try to act ("let me guess - the decorations were terrifying!"). Meanwhile, the one that acted the best was the leader, Twilight-changeling.
Wayoshi wrote:It was amusing to see Spike-changeling still be the butt of the group, and you can tell the changelings just had a little info on their personalities to try to act ("let me guess - the decorations were terrifying!"). Meanwhile, the one that acted the best was the leader, Twilight-changeling.
Which makes sense, as Twilight's the one they'd probably both have the most info on and put the most work into preparing for.