S04E21: Leap of Faith

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Re: S04E21: Leap of Faith

Postby PictishBeast (?) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:47 pm

Wylie wrote:I want one thing from this episode:

:eyebrow: My name is Applejack, of Sweet Apple Acres. I have opened a bottle of this "elixir" and I say to you it is nothing but an arrant fraud!

Basically, if they don't do a song based off (or in the style of) "Pirelli's Miracle Elixir" from Sweeney Todd, I will be disappointed. It's set up perfectly, and we know already how much this show loves Sondheim music.


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'Twas our Flim-Flam Miracle Elixir
That's what cured this hick, sir
This old mare
She was sick, sir
Till our grand elixir
Hit it like a brick, sir
The line starts there!
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:51 pm

I agree, if the song was A Sweeny Todd reference that would be awesome!

Also I look forward to AJ beating some, er I mean teaching some Honesty to the Flim Flam Bros to get her key..although I kinda hope she beats em up too, :gotcha: :v:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:35 pm

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Suddenly I am encouraged by that out of left field element. :-I
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:47 pm

This came immediately to my mind:

http://vimeo.com/68254781

Basically I am now expecting this with Flim as Martin Short and Flam as Harry Shearer and don't you dare tell me otherwise! :sbahj:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:34 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Twitter

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Suddenly I am encouraged by that out of left field element. :-I


ponies & synchronized swimming!? Hmmm... :smirk:


I APPROVE!!! :party:
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:04 pm

I can't believe they went with "Leap of Faith" as the title when "Secrets, Lies, Wigs" was right there for the plucking.

Although wasn't there a Steve Martin film called "Leap of Faith" where he played a conman faith healer? :ponder:
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Postby Applepie (?) » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:08 pm

At last.

I had been waiting in two years for Flim and Flam to come back.
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Postby Panboy (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:06 am

19 - 21 Number how do they work?!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:23 am

Panboy wrote:19 - 21 Number how do they work?!

For Whom the Sweetie Belle Toils was supposed to have been episode 20. Episode 19 (in production order) got moved ahead a few weeks.
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Postby Panboy (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:46 am

I see.

On topic I'm looking forward to flim and flam getting served by AJ, They have shown up in the commics a bit always running a scam, Luna knows just how to deal with em. Id love to see the comic cannon referenced in the show too.. but that's like never gona happen man.
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Postby Veradox (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:00 am

I CAN'T WAIT!!! OMGOMGOMG

I am seriously hyped for this episode, more so than I've ever been for any episode in the past. TSSCS6K was my favorite season 2 episode, mainly because of Flim and Flam's characters. I don't have a doubt in my mind that this episode will be anything short of fucking amazing.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:08 am

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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:45 am

Revised for new product name:

:flimflam:
Try our all-new Flim-Flam Tonic
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Stir and chat
Ailments chronic
Even plagues bubonic
Fall before our tonic
Just like that
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:56 am

I always sort of wished someone would put Trixie through the Pirelli treatment. She seemed tailor-made; even her name would have fit oh-so-neatly into the lyric scheme. Trixie's Miracle Elixir...
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:21 am

(Apologies, I've had the song stuck in my head since this afternoon, blame Wylie)

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Come on down for Elixir de Trixie
Add the stuff and mix, see
Watch it glow
Give a lick, see
Tasty brews from Trixie
Buy five and get six, see
Spend some dough

Who knows, they might actually do something like this, considering the last ep with Flim and Flam spoofed The Music Man. Here's the Sweeney Todd song for those not familiar with it:

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:07 am

Speaking of Trixie, I would be fine if she got a cameo show-horned in the season finale. :smug:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:41 am

Headless Horse wrote:I always sort of wished someone would put Trixie through the Pirelli treatment. She seemed tailor-made; even her name would have fit oh-so-neatly into the lyric scheme. Trixie's Miracle Elixir...




I am The Great Trixelli
The Queen of the Barbers
The Barber of Queens.

E buon giorno, good-

:smug:


:awkward: I guess business ain't exactly brisk!

:roll: ...
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:26 am

This should be a awesome episode :allears:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:08 am

You had me at "wigs", Mccarthy. :allears:

This episode has such potential to be great, I really hope it turns out to be as good as it can be.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:39 am

There's something I've just realized that made me more tentative on the episode :yikes:

Look, I love the Flim Flam Bros and their song and this isn't necessarily about them returning (I wish they didn't but that's not really anything bad) instead rather I'm concerned if the spotlight of the episode will be on the Flim Flam Bros and their return more so than on AJ.

I mean, this isn't the first time the spotlight was taken away from her (The Last Roundup especially with Derpy or Pinkie Pie. SSC6K also felt more cohesively focused on the Flim Flam Bros than AJ, the family, or the Mane Six probably because the perspective shifted all over the place).

Then again... with the exception of Rarity Takes Manehatten, all the moments involving the keys have been really underwhelming so maybe I should just not worry about that and just have fun with whatever the Flim Flam Bros and AJ.
:pinkieshrug:

Hopefully if the Flim Flam Bros do take the spotlight off her to many except me and I happen to see or hear all about how great of a Flim Flam Bros episode this was with little mention of AJ then that may affect my thoughts on the episode.

... I need to find a rock to live under till Tuesday next week :ohgawd:
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:35 am

The next post you complain about Applejack having "spotlight taken away" or whatever is a ban. Stop doing it.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:53 am

kefkafloyd wrote:The next post you complain about Applejack having "spotlight taken away" or whatever is a ban. Stop doing it.


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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:58 pm

Scuderia Ferrarity wrote: :awkward: I guess business ain't exactly brisk!

:roll: ...


:evil: What, you think this mane cuts itself?
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Postby MasterOfKnees (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:44 pm

Flim Flam returning is one of the few things that has had me hyped in the latter part of this season. I loved them in SSCS6000 because they were just jerks, and nothing beyond that. I think there are many interesting places to go with this episode, especially if it turns out their product is 100% functional. I mean, it'd be pretty redundant if AJ just uncovers that their product has some sort of side effect or is a fluke in the end, it's not like it'd be out of character for Flim and Flam to make a proper working product, the SSCS6000 did work properly until they turned off the quality checker after all. It'd be cool to see the conflict be with AJ having to accept that despite the Flim Flam Brothers being despicable persons that they can make something successful and functional that helps other ponies, even if they're only doing it only for the money. They're not even after the Apple Family's land anymore (at least I suppose so since Granny Smith uses their product), so they can easily pull off this kind of moral without any kind of casualties.

Furthermore, I hope they don't try and make Flim and Flam good guys by the end. I really don't like how Magic Duel handled Trixie towards the end, it seemed rather uncharacteristic, especially for someone who had already departed the town once with a rather boastful comment and furthermore had come back with the sole intention of revenge. Plus, we've already redeemed a lot of antagonists, just let some of them keep their inner jerk thank you.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:50 pm

I wouldn't like to see them redeemed either as I think it would kind of defeat the point of their characterisation.
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Postby Kronos (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:49 pm

I will be sorely disappointed if this is AJ's key ep. and the rainbow item is NOT one of the brothers' straw hats.

I will also be disappointed if the brothers do not arrive in true, glorious fashion atop the SSCS6K and wreck that same fence they kept hitting in their S2 ep.
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Postby Minty (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:15 pm

Maybe the brothers are the rainbow items themselves. The season ends with Applejack cramming them into a box.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:32 pm

Kronos wrote:I will be sorely disappointed if this is AJ's key ep. and the rainbow item is NOT one of the brothers' straw hats.

I will also be disappointed if the brothers do not arrive in true, glorious fashion atop the SSCS6K and wreck that same fence they kept hitting in their S2 ep.

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:51 pm

:flimflam: You have tought us the importance of honesty Applejack. Now have our Automobile cider maker as your reward!

:flirt: Thank yea kindly.


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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:52 pm

Then Applejack drives it off into the sunset as the scene fades out. That is how this episode should end. :allears:
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:05 pm

:granny: "Y'know, Applejack, sometimes just believin' that sumthin'll make y'feel better, is just as good as sumthin that'll actually make yeh feel better. Certainly better'n havin' nothin, t'least!"

*rainbow across eyes*

:skeptic: "I guess you're right, Granny."

:twasnothin: "All right, boys, why don'tcha load us up with several crates of that miracle elixer!"

:flimflam: "...Sorry, what was that?"

:flirt: "Gimme a whole bushel full t'keep stock for Granny until the next time ya come over yonder."

:flimflam: "...We're not sure we're comfortable selling that much product to one person. You do know this is all hogwash, right? The tonic doesn't actually do anything."

:eyebrow: "You're not gonna give me what I want like a proper salesman?"

:flimflam: "This feels like a setup. We're gonna go now."

:granny: "Applejack, where's mah tonic?"

:hilarious: "Them Flim Flam Brothers just sold me something even better than that tonic, right before they took off. Here you go, Granny, one certified invisible health blanket!"

*hug*

:granny: "That didn't do jack shit. Go get me mah medicine before I tan yer hide like a mangy coyote."
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:21 pm

There is some truth to the power of mind over matter. So maybe the moral from Granny Smith will be to have a more positive outlook about being old. :pinkieshrug:

But yeah, I think the overall moral will be AJ teaching the Flim Flam bros it's better to run an honest business then a con.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:24 pm

:flimflam: thanks for showing us the error of our ways, Applejack! Have a free bottle of our fabulous formula!

:hilarious: Aww gee. Ain't that nice.
:-I your eyes just did a weird rainbow thing...

:angry: Aww hell, no!

:applejargh: Consarn you, Flimflam Brothers!
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:37 pm

I just started thinking, is there any chance that this is actually a redemption episode for Flim and Flam? I mean, they make good products, but it seems that their goals for their products wasn't in the best place. So maybe this is them trying to show their own honesty by helping ponies with their new product?
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:41 pm

It could potentially be one, the way the synopsis is setting things up. I'd say there's a good chance of that happening.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:47 pm

ShieldedDiamond wrote:I just started thinking, is there any chance that this is actually a redemption episode for Flim and Flam? I mean, they make good products, but it seems that their goals for their products wasn't in the best place. So maybe this is them trying to show their own honesty by helping ponies with their new product?



Given it's also AJ's key ep, I think there's a good possibility of that, not that Flim & Flam will change their ways over night, but AJ will most deffinanlty at least set them on the right path.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:16 pm

I don't think it was overnight, nor that Applejack would be the one to set them on the path. The current trend it seems to be is that in each of these key episodes, each pony's element is the cause of the problem. Rarity's generosity allowed another pony to steal from her, Fluttershy's kindness spoiled the breezies, Rainbow Dash's loyalty tore her apart, and Pinkie Pie's desire to make ponies laugh caused competition. If anything, Applejack might use honesty in a fashion to ruin their reputation. "They were crooks before!" "Don't trust them, they tried to steal!" Something along those lines, and Flim and Flam would be the ones who would have to prove their honesty to her.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Mar 28, 2014 12:54 am

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=83 ... =2&theater

So everyone is getting injured lately, huh... :pinkieshrug:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:08 am

:flimflam: FLIM FLAM BROTHERS ACCIDENT CAUSERS/ CURE ALL ELIXER SELLERS, YAY!!



:angry: Now that's low even for y'all!!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:11 am

Wayoshi wrote:So everyone is getting injured lately, huh... :pinkieshrug:

I was about to ask who had been injured until I saw the ponies in the audience who were covered in bandages. Maybe Flim and Flam are capitalizing on the aftermath of a major accident? That's definitely a good way to make them look scummy as hell.
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