S04E18: Maud Pie

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Re: S04E18: Maud Pie

Postby BartonFink (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:31 am

Well, technically "stoic" refers to a philosophy, yeah. But it's also kind of colloquially used to refer to some personality types. Namely the sort of dry, cynical, hard-to-read nature that she exhibits. I don't think she's making any kind of point with being that way, she's just from the kind of environment where she likes her rocks and doesn't feel the need to be outwardly expressive about her emotions.

And, y'know, I wrote that above, and now I can't decide if being stoic is more of an inherent personality trait, or a result, conscious or unconscious, that grows out of one's surroundings. So, thanks discussion thread, now I'm curious about the nature vs. nurture aspect of stoicism.


Anyway, I think people like her because she's cool as hell and likes rocks, a whole bunch. I follow the logic.

Also, non-sarcastically, if you're referring to the wider fandom as well as this board, a lot of Internet People tend to fit this personality (I do myself, to an extent), and might just identify with it
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:42 am

Huh...I guess I'm not like most of the Internet then. I personally think it's strange to suppress one's emotions like that...it just seems to bottle up inside of them until they eventually explode in a fit of emotions. But, hey, everyone's entitled to go their own way. :pinkieshrug:

Anyway, I was sort of sarcastic but to see people request gangtags for Maud has me wondering now... She's a great character but to see this much adoration... :ponder:
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Postby JaneCV (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:49 am

I love rocks. Maud loves rocks. Therefore best pony. :crack:

Also she reminds me of Daria.
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Postby MochaBean (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:56 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Huh...I guess I'm not like most of the Internet then. I personally think it's strange to suppress one's emotions like that...it just seems to bottle up inside of them until they eventually explode in a fit of emotions. But, hey, everyone's entitled to go their own way. :pinkieshrug:


People like that aren't necessarily bottling up their emotions though, they just don't express their emotions outwardly in a strong way. Everyone has their own personal emotional "volume", and people like Maud are set to very quiet. The girls aren't used to someone like that, but Pinkie knew exactly how Maud was feeling because she's grown up with her and knows how to "listen", as it were.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:17 am

Hey, it's a Maud episode. Let's see who gets all the good faces!

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(Side note: Maud only has one ear, as far as I can tell, despite not having a mane poofy enough to cover the other one up.)
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:19 am

Oh my god but that episode was pure D'AWWWWWWWWWW. :awesomedash:
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Postby Ragnar (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:44 am

Maud is best.

Also best: Rarity awkwardly extricating herself from her first Maud Encounter. I think we should come up with a word for the noises Rarity does when flustered. Suggestion: Tabithizing.
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Postby Star Platinum (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:47 am

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That fabric ripping sound is timed perfectly :lol:
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Postby Grue (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:19 am

This episode was gneiss.

Seriously, why am I the first one to use this pun, are you guys even trying?

Nice to see an episode that doesn't try to be "epic", but just tries to tell a funny and heartwarming story, like in the good old days of pony.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:45 am

Grue wrote:This episode was gneiss.


Well, there are those who think the joke got shale over time.

Not among them, though. I marbled at it.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:48 am

:pinkieshrug: I was just taking it for graNOWEARENOTDOINGTHIS :twonk:
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Postby Gravenstein (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:00 am

Man knock this pun schist off, you turkeys! :facehoof:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:12 am

Rewatching the episode ("His name is Boulder" still being my favourite line), I noticed this visual effect on Pinkie Pie—I do not recall seeing that one before?

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:25 am

Obviously, Pinkie is using her alicorn magic to teleport, but she teleports in a different way. Anyone with eyes can see that. :gotcha:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:15 pm

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This is something I first noticed in Somepony to Watch Over Me, but man, that's an awful design for that stove. Why would you put the bellows right in front where you're going to be standing? We even saw Applejack stumbling over them as she was backing up.
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Postby Lorce (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:59 pm

In the scene following that one i couldn't help but to think that Maud would probably prefer the Flim&Flam cider. :gotcha:
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Postby Kitsune (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:01 pm

This episode was great. It was very nice to see Pinkie bonding with her sister, especially when they're so completely different yet get a long perfectly.

Twilight seemed sure about so many things this episode but she was wrong about all of them. Worst princess.

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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:18 pm

Lorce wrote:In the scene following that one i couldn't help but to think that Maud would probably prefer the Flim&Flam cider. :gotcha:


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Also I love that Boulder was legitimately her pet, at first when I saw the teaser I was a little worried the end would be that she was making fun of everyone and being kinda shitty but nope, just a rock farmin gal with a pet rock :allears:
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Postby Jill (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:22 pm

Maud's whole "look at how awkward this pony is" introduction made me cringe because she reminds me way too much of myself. :fluttersmith:

Regardless, I give this episode :ponydrugs: / :ponydrugs:

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:34 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Obviously, Pinkie is using her alicorn magic to teleport, but she teleports in a different way. Anyone with eyes can see that. :gotcha:



Alicorn, pfft. Pinkie is obviusly a Draconiques! :excellent:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:56 pm

I would love to argue that point with you all day long but I don't know if this is the right thread for it...

Regardless, Pinkie is totally an alicorn and I will continue to support this theory until the end of time.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:06 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:I would love to argue that point with you all day long but I don't know if this is the right thread for it...

Regardless, Pinkie is totally an alicorn and I will continue to support this theory until the end of time.



What if .......Pinkie is an Alicorn & a Draconiques!? :-D
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:08 pm

I pumice, no more rock puns. :yay:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:46 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:HOKUTO ROCK-U-RETSUKEN


[deadpan] "You are already sand."

*giant boulder crumbles*
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:22 pm

Niels Olof wrote:Rewatching the episode ("His name is Boulder" still being my favourite line), I noticed this visual effect on Pinkie Pie—I do not recall seeing that one before?

Isn't that entire little scene clearly Road Runner Pie? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:40 pm

The effect (Pinkie dissolving into colored smoke like that) is new, though. That's what he was pointing out.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:42 pm

Well of course, Pinkie must always have something fresh. :3:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:43 pm

It's a new ability she picked up. As she obtains more of them, she gets stronger... :-P
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Postby Discord (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:49 pm

After rewatch, to be honest, Maud's schtick didn't do it for me in the same way it has for others. It's an interesting personality, and I'm kind of glad to see someone like this exists in pony land. It stands as a nice contrast, but not much else for me. It's hard to relate to, because Maud is so sincerely unexpressive; it's not like she's shy and thus hides her emotions, which I think is more common amongst people.

I think Maud's whole love for Pinkie is actually my favourite thing about her. :ponder: As soon as she takes off to save Pinkie, I love everything she does. Even beyond the whole boulder-smash, the little hug followed by her rise in her voice for her most emotional statement of the episode ("What were you thinking?!") and her mature slam-down of the situation...it's this awesome combination of cool and adorable. :allears: :awesomedash: And then it keeps going with the train scene and the rock candy necklaces.

The whole ending resolution didn't honestly make complete sense for me at first, but reflecting on it, I can see how really caring for someone is and easy and strong relation.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 3:54 pm

The Doctor wrote:We need a Maud in the WWI helmet emote. :v:


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:-/ *psst* Pinkie, are we supposed to read between the lines on that statement, or is she just an open book?
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:15 pm

Between SPTWOM, Maud, & the sweetie belle ep next week lots of nice sisterly bonding in pony this month. It just warms the cockles of my heart.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:24 pm

Hmm...that's true. It seems that each episode that's aired this month has that theme. Interesting.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:28 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Hmm...that's true. It seems that each episode that's aired this month has that theme. Interesting.



March: Its A sandwhich of adorablrness the bread being the breezies & the flim flam bros, & the meat in the middle being 3 layers of sisterly love.

... IT TASTE SOO GOOD!! :-D
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:36 pm

Liked this one a lot. The humor seemed so un-pony at times with the awkward interactions and the long silences, but as an experiment in stretching pony's formula it worked great as a one-off.

Maud was fun. Let me count the ways.
  • Happy that she stayed in-character for the entire episode, and wasn't revealed to be trolling or depressed.
  • Definitely hard to read though. Is "it can't talk, it's a dress" a put down or a literal statement of fact?
  • Maud is exactly as weird as Pinkie is, she's just not demonstrative about it. If Pinkie took something out of her pocket and said "He's a ROCK! His name is BOULDER!" her friends would be like, "ohhh pinkie, that's why we love you." It's a smart way to show their shared interests and that their sisterly bond goes deeper than appearances.
  • The freakish strength thing came out of nowhere, but I liked it given her farm background and the fact that it made her seem like even more of a weirdo.
  • I know there's been a run on "omg Maud is me" comments among the fandom but her affect is relatable -- I don't think I've laughed since 2006 and it's not because I'm unhappy or anything, it's just, whatever. Just the same, I'd prefer it if she doesn't come back in future episodes. She's funny as an anomaly, not as a supporting character.
  • Her first poem had a "hurr hurr this is what the writer thinks of bad poems" air about it, but her second one ("smooth and round / underground / shades of brown") was cute and believable.
  • Kind of surprised the "secret ingredient" thing never came up again.

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I've seen you make this same point prior to this episode and it always struck me as an odd read of Cutie Mark Chronicles. The rock farm is a gag, true, but I've always read it as not as "Pinkie tells crazy stories" but as "Equestria is fucking weird."
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Postby fenster (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:56 pm

I haven't read the thread yet but I'm going to assume that it's 12 pages of nothing but Rock Puns, so I'm jus going to say that I loved the episode and I loved Maud. :-I

I don't know why, but I really liked how it seemed like Maud and her relationship with Pinkie pie was played straight with their personalities. I feel like if this was another cartoon, Maud would have subverted her personality and act really hyper at some point to nerd out about rocks or to share her affections for her sister, but even when she rescued Pinkie Pie she retained her stoic personality. Having seen that kind of subversion done might have been more "interesting" to some because of her unenthusiastic nature, but it would've been really obvious and boring to me since it would be really cliche as well as solidifying her character personality more (which I already liked). Seeing Pinkie and her sister genuinely love each other when they had such extreme personalities really felt sweet by the end of the episode, and sacrificing that character consistency to go with something cliche would have taken away that sense that it was genuine and made it cheaper.

PictishBeast wrote:Liked this one a lot. The humor seemed so un-pony at times with the awkward interactions and the long silences


Season 1 had its moments of awkward comedy and interactions, even as early as the premier episode when Twilight met Fluttershy or Applebuck Season's "Applejack slowly drags the giant trophy through the crowd for a significant amount of time with an awkward screech". This episode just returned to that sense of comedy and turned it to 11.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:57 pm

:spike101: I made a handy chart for everyone.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:06 pm

Discord wrote:After rewatch, to be honest, Maud's schtick didn't do it for me in the same way it has for others. It's an interesting personality, and I'm kind of glad to see someone like this exists in pony land. It stands as a nice contrast, but not much else for me. It's hard to relate to, because Maud is so sincerely unexpressive; it's not like she's shy and thus hides her emotions, which I think is more common amongst people.

I thought this made for an interesting contrast between Fluttershy and Maud. Neither of them say or do much around strangers, but whereas Fluttershy opens up a bit in front of her friends, Maud remains silent as ever.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:26 pm

The Doctor wrote::spike101: I made a handy chart for everyone.

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:29 pm

Vulcans consider Maud to be best pony. :twiright:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:32 pm

Maybe Maud is a Vulcan instead of a robot...
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