S05E20: The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows

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Re: S05E20: The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows

Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:24 am

Headless Horse wrote:Can't stop laughing at Twilight's face here


That's a great one, though my favourite Twi face this episode had to be:

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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:42 am

Chaos Sonic wrote:There's probably some pony out there with a pregnancy test cutie mark. :gotcha:

I don't even want to know what you have to pee on to figure out that test. :barf:
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Postby BurningBright (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:29 am

I loved this one. It did have a S1 with a facelift kind of feeling, and that's perfectly okay.

No love for the spooky-reflection-of-Rarity line? That had me dying.

I also love the slightly creepy confession balloon sequence. It's just more proof that Pinkie Pie has not only a big imagination but her mind can still get dark.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:42 am

Ha, yes—that Rarity bit was awesome. :v: Another good example of self-awareness.

Also "There's no possible way that I could ever have anything that might interfere with doing that task, like a gigantic, emotionally exhausting surprise that would make it super hard to be around other ponies!"



Was this the first time since Party of One that she's said "okie dokie lokie"?
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 4:44 am

By the way



This isn't how balloon animals work :-I
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:11 am

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:02 am

Perrydotto wrote:Mrs. Cake never showed visible signs of pregnancy, either. I don't think the show will ever have that, since a) it could interfere with the viewing order

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A season, one would hope. :flutterunsmith:

The main thing that struck me about this episode was how nuanced it is. The setup was very basic -- just lay it all out in the cold open, done. But then Pinkie has to brave the gauntlet of BABY/SURPRISE jokes, and after the second one, I was thinking, "Is this really all we're going to do for the whole episode?"

And it was, except for the twist later on that half the town's already in on the secret and all inflicting the same agony on each other.

And we get a tiny bit of characterization for Shining Armor, just slipped into the middle of the madness.

It was also a good choice to make this a Pinkie episode. Princess Babykins is one of those twists that was so obvious that they had to come clean with it and move on. Honestly, for the royal couple, it reminds me a bit of... maybe a Sarah Vowell monologue about '80s TV shows and pregnancies or orphaned waifs showing up on doorsteps whenever they needed a ratings bump. I know plenty of people here have groused about the need for some real, honest-to-goodness character development for those two, and a baby seems more like they're just going to leapfrog ahead to being Big Adults who're just too busy for having adventures.

So I think they made the right call letting the baby thing just be the catalyst for a lot of crazy antics. We don't really need a rehash of Baby Cakes, so I'm kind of hoping the actual blessed event is pretty low-key.
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Postby Juniper Phoenix (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:49 am

PaulloDEC wrote:
That's a great one, though my favourite Twi face this episode had to be:

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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:22 am

I thought this one started ok and got better as it went on, the best part was where they were doing the scavenger hunt and onwards. It's good to see Pinkie get a bit agitated every once in a while, usually she's the total opposite of that.

I agree that the episode does have an S1 sort of quality to it :party: , also agree that there's some decent one liners in this.

The clue that told them "look on the back of the birth certificate of Applejack" wasn't really a clue, it was literally telling them the answer :-I
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:59 pm

Headless Horse wrote:By the way



This isn't how balloon animals work :-I

I'm a little surprised that you are getting nitpicky about this and not about how Pinkie Pie made those things even though she has no hands. :smirk:


Though, what I found really telling was that back in the premiere, Party Favor also made all his balloon animals using his own two hooves and forelegs, even though he is a unicorn. I suppose that it is just much more visually interesting to animate ponies wildly flailing their legs around like that than it is to have unicorns using magic to do stuff.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:42 pm

11 months. I knew this because we raised horses.
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Postby SneakHorse (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:51 pm

Dunno if this has been brought up yet but I was pleasantly surprised they didn't go for the heavy-handed Aesop route. I was fully expecting Pinkie to tell someone halfway through, which would snowball into the surprise getting ruined for everyone, and then she and the rest of the ponies would learn a valuable lesson about promises, or the pressure involved with keeping secrets or something. Then I saw it was halfway through the episode and it was still just screwball comedy and I was very relieved. I don't mind the Aesop stuff, given the target demographic, but the show doesn't need to always have one.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:53 pm

I kind of wish they had aged up the Cake Twins a bit. Been 3 seasons, would have been a nice bit of continuity. Have them with normal eyes, and walking.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:30 pm

PonyHag714 wrote: :shock: Fluttershy, do you know where the ant farm went?

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:rant: Aunt? Did somepony say aunt?! THAT'S RIDICULOUS, NOPONY IS GOING TO BE AN AUNT

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:byopinkie: AT LEAST NOT AS FAR AS I KNOW, BECAUSE HOW WOULD I KNOW HAHAHAHAHAHA
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:35 pm

The Doctor wrote:I kind of wish they had aged up the Cake Twins a bit. Been 3 seasons, would have been a nice bit of continuity. Have them with normal eyes, and walking.

Judging by their lack of diapers, they could very well be potty trained now.

But really though, it seems like Meghan and the gang have had trouble deciding how much time has passed since the start of FiM and now, or maybe they want to have characters visibly grow up but Hasbro won't allow it without lots of convincing.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:48 pm

Seeing how the cakes, both earth ponies, gave birth to a pegasus and a unicorn I would find it ironic if an alicorn and a unicorn gave birth to an earth pony. Especially if people are expecting the baby to be Skyla. :iamapony:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:50 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Judging by their lack of diapers, they could very well be potty trained now.

But really though, it seems like Meghan and the gang have had trouble deciding how much time has passed since the start of FiM and now, or maybe they want to have characters visibly grow up but Hasbro won't allow it without lots of convincing.


I'd chalk it up more to the same reason Celestia and Luna wear their Princess Bling to bed. It's a minor point of the episode and they're not going to take time to make new character assets just for that. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:54 pm

The twins are recurring characters, though, so it's not like drawing slightly older versions of them will go to waste.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:32 pm

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:34 pm

Image Applejack, we're bored.

:bluh: Bored, huh? Ah'm sure Ah can find you some chores to do at the farm that'll take care of that.

Image We're not that bored.

Image Now look here, you young 'uns...

Image Wait, Applejack. What you three have to realize is that with your cutie marks, you're now part of the bigger picture. You have more responsibilities, and a role to play in the future of Equestria.

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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:46 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Judging by their lack of diapers, they could very well be potty trained now.

But really though, it seems like Meghan and the gang have had trouble deciding how much time has passed since the start of FiM and now, or maybe they want to have characters visibly grow up but Hasbro won't allow it without lots of convincing.


We're actually beginning to see a bit of time flowing here. Cadence and Shining starting a family, the CMC getting their Cutie Marks...it's one of those things a show that's had 5 (and eventually at least 6) seasons can manage.

Honestly, it's one of those things about a series you don't know you crave until it happens. A lot of little happily ever afters.
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:54 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Judging by their lack of diapers, they could very well be potty trained now.

But really though, it seems like Meghan and the gang have had trouble deciding how much time has passed since the start of FiM and now, or maybe they want to have characters visibly grow up but Hasbro won't allow it without lots of convincing.


I don't know about that. As of the start of S4 they look to have gone ahead and decided it's been a year (and since then they keep doing "anniversaries" of things that support the "one year later" idea - The Gala, Running of the Leaves and now the Sisterhooves Social).
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:54 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:Image :pcstare: In other words, you're the newest pawns in my giant horse chess game.


So in Equestrian chess, all the pieces are knights?
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:24 pm

Daring Do wrote:
I don't know about that. As of the start of S4 they look to have gone ahead and decided it's been a year (and since then they keep doing "anniversaries" of things that support the "one year later" idea - The Gala, Running of the Leaves and now the Sisterhooves Social).


This is the interpretation I like too, but just warning you there's a surprising amount of debate on the issue.

Also, I doubt they'll do it, but I think it would be wonderful if we saw character model changes as time passed; the CMC getting bigger, Twilight's horn getting a bit longer, things like that. I doubt we will, though, since it probably means having to update all the art assets (which for someone like Twilight is probably a huge library). Also, they probably want to keep all the characters as recognizable as possible, which I've always suspected is the reason why we didn't get a pink maned Celestia in the S4 flashbacks.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:25 pm

I suppose that could be, depending on how Celestia wants to play it. :gotcha:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:05 pm

Bremen wrote:Also, I doubt they'll do it, but I think it would be wonderful if we saw character model changes as time passed; the CMC getting bigger, Twilight's horn getting a bit longer, things like that. I doubt we will, though, since it probably means having to update all the art assets (which for someone like Twilight is probably a huge library). Also, they probably want to keep all the characters as recognizable as possible, which I've always suspected is the reason why we didn't get a pink maned Celestia in the S4 flashbacks.

To be fair, we never knew if the depiction in that storybook was supposed to be a literal statement of them having pale pink and blue hair when they were young, or just something the book did to be fancy. Luna's hair being short and pale blue at the end of the second episode is something that the show seems to have largely walked away from and the comics made it out as a thing that happens when she's severely depressed.
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Postby Minty (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:54 pm

The baby being born is probably going to be a season 6 two parter. :pinkieshrug:
:eep: Hey where's the egg?
:skeptical: What egg?
:whyme: Babies hatch from eggs, right?
:byopinkie: Twilight, get over here STAT.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:00 pm

I always thought it'd be funny if pegasi hatched from eggs (and Cadance was originally a pegasus, so I guess it's a nearly 50/50 chance of the baby being a pegasus or unicorn), but I can't see the show ever actually doing that.
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:07 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:Image Applejack, we're bored.

:bluh: Bored, huh? Ah'm sure Ah can find you some chores to do at the farm that'll take care of that.

Image We're not that bored.

Image Now look here, you young 'uns...

Image Wait, Applejack. What you three have to realize is that with your cutie marks, you're now part of the bigger picture. You have more responsibilities, and a role to play in the future of Equestria.

:pcstare: In other words, you're the newest pawns in my giant horse chess game.

:angry: Right. Now go rake those dang leaves in the western side of the farm.
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:18 pm

Bremen wrote:
This is the interpretation I like too, but just warning you there's a surprising amount of debate on the issue.

Also, I doubt they'll do it, but I think it would be wonderful if we saw character model changes as time passed; the CMC getting bigger, Twilight's horn getting a bit longer, things like that. I doubt we will, though, since it probably means having to update all the art assets (which for someone like Twilight is probably a huge library). Also, they probably want to keep all the characters as recognizable as possible, which I've always suspected is the reason why we didn't get a pink maned Celestia in the S4 flashbacks.


Would that debate be because of stuff in S1-3 that doesn't completely make sense with the "one year" thing? If so, I think that'd be because they hadn't decided that far in advance that they only wanted it to be a year. :P
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:28 pm

I remember the writers saying the episodes are not in chronological order. But things like the CMC getting their cutie marks kind of puts a time stamp on things. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:35 pm

Bremen wrote:(which for someone like Twilight is probably a huge library).


Pun intended?
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Postby Throbulator (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:59 am

20 minutes of Pinkie clowning and something something Princess Skyla. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:09 am

Observation from episode comments: There are giraffes in that world. Are they an intelligent race?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:18 am

I didn't even notice, but yeah, Featherweight mentioned one when he was getting a balloon animal from Pinkie Pie. I guess they'd be like zebras, living off in whatever part of the world that zebras are originally from.

If there's one animal that I'd love to see as a sapient race in this show, it's the elephant. I know they're not ungulates, but still, they're already incredibly smart IRL and are just way too interesting in general.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:31 am

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Postby Nemrex (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:50 am

The episode in particular reminded me of a line from 30 Rock where Pete says:

Life is like T.V. Testing tells us that people like weddings, births and episodes where a character dies.
Liz:That's dumb.
Lutz:MY HEART!

So since we've had those big announcements in that exact order, bring on the Ponyville mortuary. :scheming:


Loved this episode though. I liked how it carried the implication of Pinkie failing to keep the secret without resorting to actually having her fail and making a scene with the rest of the Mane 6 explaining why it's wrong and at the same time forgiving her. I felt it really did a good job of stretching the premise while offering some of the best animated antics for Pinkie Pie. She was like a can of coke on a jet engine. :-P
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:45 am

Rewatched this one tonight. Some of Andrea Libman's deliveries absolutely slayed me; specifically "WE GET THE PICTURE! YOU LIKE BOOKS!", "They're gonna have a lot more to take care of soon..." and "THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I KNOW! THAT YOU DON'T KNOW I KNOW!"

Fantastic performance.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:14 pm

I think SA showed a greater range of emotion in that one bedroom scene than in all of ACW 1/2. :-I
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Postby Frith (?) » Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:12 pm

I liked this episode. It was cute and funny.
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