S04E19: Trade Ya!

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Re: S04E19: Trade Ya!

Postby Just Scuds (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:13 am

:wingsright: :"We accept Dogecoin and CHEEZ-IT."
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Postby Frith (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:31 am

So, I think it's time to write something about the episode.

This episode was quite similar to Castle Mane-ia and IMO both episodes have same strengths. There was a lot of great character interactions in the episode, all of the characters go a change to shine and there were plenty of funny moments in the episode. The ending of the episode was also really sweet which is the reason why I think this episode was better than Castle Mane-ia. So overall this was enjoyable episode and also really good ensemble episode.

I can't really say anything negative about this episode but it's still somewhere in the middle in my S4 ranking. It just didn't leave particularly lasting impact on me.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:48 am

I hope you saw a guy selling chicken mosaics at your conventions, Kefka. :v:
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Postby Amethyst_Gem (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:29 am

"I've heard what you both have to say—and I'm sorry, Rainbow Dash—but my hooves are tied: you said it was a fair trade."
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"And with that, I declare this trial—and this year's Rainbow Falls Trader's Exchange—over!"
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This whole scene was the first time I got any real sense of royal authority from Twilight - yet it's also no different from how she would usually express herself, either. I have never doubted Twilight's capability in such matters, but I haven't until now reacted with 'it suits her'.

The scene in the first s4 episode - with the citzenry of Canterlot in a panic and the captains of the royal guard requesting orders - seemed to try to do the same. However, that felt more forced in comparison to this impromptu role as judge, presiding over a rare trial during what may be Equestria's biggest economic event. I can't quite say why this scene hit me more. Perhaps if she had made an announcement to the Canterlot citzenry too?

I hope they further explore this quality of duty and law and order that is required of her ascendance.
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P.S.: Did I use either the colon or the dash properly for the first quote, or did I vandalize Twilight's grammar? :sheepish:
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Postby doodlesplat (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:25 am

:-I
The fan transcript puts it like this:
"I've heard what you both have to say, and I'm sorry, Rainbow Dash, but my hooves are tied. You said it was a fair trade."

Listening to the scene a buncha times, I'd say it can also be transcribed as:
"I've heard what you both have to say—and I'm sorry, Rainbow Dash—but my hooves are tied: you said it was a fair trade."
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Postby Amethyst_Gem (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:33 am

doodlesplat wrote:Listening to the scene a buncha times, I'd say it can also be transcribed as:
"I've heard what you both have to say—and I'm sorry, Rainbow Dash—but my hooves are tied: you said it was a fair trade."


Oh, thank you! That looks much better. I will correct my grammar now! :excite:
Is it proper to leave no space around the dash, or is that more just a regional grammar preference? :rariwhat:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:41 am

Twilight being put in that position of power still feels weird to me. Now, it's not as if a bunch of other ponies haven't needed such things from her in the past (I'm particularly reminded of TMPP, where everyone was gathering around the library), but formalities like this are definitely different.
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Postby Amethyst_Gem (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:00 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:but formalities like this are definitely different.

I've always felt like Rarity and Twilight were the most formal of the mane six. I can see why others may see her behavior, or decisions, or manner of speech at the trial differently. To me, this doesn't seem too strange for Twilight. Maybe it's a unicorn thing? The formalities, I mean.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:10 pm

Rarity is, but I never got that feeling from Twilight. Her adoration of Celestia gave a little bit of that off, but in general I always got the feeling that Twilight generally wants to dispense with such procedures in order to actually get stuff done. I'm thinking of the "tough love, baby!" Twilight from back in A Bird in the Hoof, for example.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:18 pm

Except Twilight is all about doing things by the book. She just happens to have a book for everything. :gotcha:
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Postby Amethyst_Gem (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:20 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:but in general I always got the feeling that Twilight generally wants to dispense with such procedures in order to actually get stuff done. I'm thinking of the "tough love, baby!" Twilight from back in A Bird in the Hoof, for example.


Twilight as a character has become developed enough that both of these aspects of her can both be true. I think it depends on the circumstances she finds herself in, perhaps. That said, there's been a whole lot more 'formal' sorta Twilight in general lately... maybe what I really mean is, 'this is the first time its felt natural'?
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:35 pm

Amethyst_Gem wrote:
Oh, thank you! That looks much better. I will correct my grammar now! :excite:
Is it proper to leave no space around the dash, or is that more just a regional grammar preference? :rariwhat:


When using an em dash (—) you do not use spaces between the things that the em is separating.
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Postby Amethyst_Gem (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:28 pm

kefkafloyd wrote:
When using an em dash (—) you do not use spaces between the things that the em is separating.

So am I correct in my usage of the smaller dash? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:35 pm

No, the em dash would be correct there.

En dashes (-) are for hyphenation, i.e. splitting within a word or joining a compound word. Em dashes (—) go between words in a sentence.
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Postby Venusy (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:37 pm

The only kind of dash that matters is the rainbow dash. :v:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:22 pm

:shock: So, did I do a good job running the trade fair?

:pcstare: :unenthused:

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:gotcha: 100%

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:35 pm

Venusy wrote:The only kind of dash that matters is the rainbow dash. :v:

:v: I always liked rainbows and all, but I was —ing nowhere in a —! It wasn't until my very first — that I rainbowed a rainbow need to —! And rainbow! — rainbow — rain — bow — rain ——!
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:44 pm

PonyHag714 wrote: :shock: So, did I do a good job running the trade fair?

:pcstare: :unenthused:

:facehoof:

:gotcha: 100%

:excite:

Twilight Sparkle after graduation battled withdrawl.

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:pcstare: ....

:excite: I got an A! I got an A! I got an A! I got an A!
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Postby Jyu (?) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:16 am

Why did Dash trade away the Orthros? :cry: It was so adorable, much better than that crappy bird whistle. Fluttershy can literally call any bird with the sound of her voice. She doesn't need no whistle!

Aside from that, great episode. Loved everything!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:20 am

Jyu wrote:Why did Dash trade away the Orthros? :cry: It was so adorable, much better than that crappy bird whistle. Fluttershy can literally call any bird with the sound of her voice. She doesn't need no whistle!

Aside from that, great episode. Loved everything!


:3: because Fluttershy really wanted that Whistle and she's the best friend a pony could have.
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Postby Jyu (?) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:22 am

I would think Fluttershy would have wanted the Orthros more than the bird whistle. I mean, who wouldn't want a two headed dog. It's like twice the dog in one. :awesomedash:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:53 am

Given what she's already done with Cerberus, a dog with merely two heads is boring by comparison.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:13 pm

Next season's special guest: Multi-Bear.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:28 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Next season's special guest: Multi-Bear.

You mean like this? :gotcha:

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Postby Pocket (?) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:10 pm

Tears wrote:And Rarity psyching out AJ in her own game when AJ was trying to prove a point by shuffling the boraches around was great.

I actually thought that was going to lead somewhere, like it would turn out that Rarity really couldn't tell the difference and had grabbed the wrong one by mistake, and then she'd almost get in trouble for it and at the very least embarrassed. Maybe that was something they had to cut out.
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Postby reidransom (?) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:36 am

I've been so busy this past week I just now got around to watching this episode. Loved it. Premise may be a bit cliched, but it was well done and had all my favorite besties hanging out with each other doing friendship.
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Postby doodlesplat (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:49 am

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Is this a new object? Did horsies have sword battles in the distant past?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:12 am

doodlesplat wrote:Image
Is this a new object? Did horsies have sword battles in the distant past?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 12:21 pm

We've mostly only seen ponies wield spears, which I suppose are a little easier for a creature with no fingers to use.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:07 am

I recently finished a Shin Megami Tensei game in which I used Orthrus extensively. Seeing him as yet another semi-obscure mythological beast represented well in this show made me squee. :awesomedash:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 10:33 am

doodlesplat wrote:Image
Is this a new object? Did horsies have sword battles in the distant past?
:-I

Going back through the episode, the stuff ponies are trading are a great little level of detail. I mentioned in Inspiration Manifestation that the background work felt a little thin, but this episode alone might account for that. You have dozens (hundreds?) of ponies, and many of them are dragging around boxes or banjos or ropes or baskets or birdcages or cameras or any number of random things. Impressive.

In the credits, I just noticed James Higuchi is credited as "Comic Geek Pony, Pony 1". Did the comic geek pony actually get any lines? :squintyjack:

Also, here's an odd cutie mark. An apple... garlic bulb?
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Postby doodlesplat (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 10:52 am

I think that's Apple Dumpling, one of Applejack's relatives.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 10:53 am




Thanks for bringing this up, because holy shit what a great microcosm of :ponydrugs: right there.

Rusty, battle-notched old sword that looks like it's seen far more than its fair share of action and probably proven its lethality numerous times... being carried in the mouth of this fluffy cute pony with carrots on her butt and flowers in her mane.

Which is probably how whatever warrior used it in the past carried it too. :allears:

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Postby Mir (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 12:51 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Going back through the episode, the stuff ponies are trading are a great little level of detail. I mentioned in Inspiration Manifestation that the background work felt a little thin, but this episode alone might account for that. You have dozens (hundreds?) of ponies, and many of them are dragging around boxes or banjos or ropes or baskets or birdcages or cameras or any number of random things. Impressive.

In the credits, I just noticed James Higuchi is credited as "Comic Geek Pony, Pony 1". Did the comic geek pony actually get any lines? :squintyjack:

Also, here's an odd cutie mark. An apple... garlic bulb?
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Look what's next to it. That's either a bad apple or a rotten tomato...
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 12:55 pm

Huh...I never realised what those strange cutie marks were. I wonder who's in charge of designing them...
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Postby Doctor Wheeze (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 2:11 pm

That one is probably supposed to be a baked apple with some sort of topping.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 5:44 pm

Yeah, it's a baked caramel apple.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 01, 2014 5:45 pm

Part of me wants to see it as a smelly red butt. :gotcha:
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Postby Weird Autumn (?) » Wed May 07, 2014 2:49 am

Little children can't make fun of each other's names in a world where the greatest national heroes are named things like "Twilight Sparkle" and "Rainbow Dash," so I'm pretty sure having a cutie mark like that dude's is the #1 way to attract schoolyard bullying. (Except maybe being a blank flank.)
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