S04E13: Simple Ways

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Re: S04E13: Simple Ways

Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:21 pm

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This is funny, but also too dumb for Rarity


Agreed. Growing up in Ponyville, even if she despises it, she has to have been exposed to farming.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:24 pm

Indeed, that scene could have been cut for something else.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:24 pm

This episode and Castle Mane-ia are my two favorite episodes of S4. Josh Haber is my new favorite pony writer. In unrelated news here is a snapshot of my bedroom:

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:25 pm

Eh, it makes sense to me. Rarity seems like the type that wouldn't know too much about farming even if she lives in an agricultural town.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:26 pm

Well she didn't know what a hammer was soo....

Also you'd be surprised how much you can block out living in a rural area your whole life.

Rarity and I are kindred spirits. :vogue:
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Postby Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:35 pm

:starity: "Whipping the rope while saying hi-yah didn't work despite my expectations for it to do so!"

:wink: "Oh, I'll just use my Wizard Powers!"

:starity: "Wait, Applejack lacks Wizard Powers and must operate basic devices without such."

:gonkity: "How do you live without Wizard Powers in this cruel dark world!?"

It's pretty easy to forget that the melodramatic fashionista is also a wizard actually.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:35 pm

PictishBeast wrote:This episode and Castle Mane-ia are my two favorite episodes of S4. Josh Haber is my new favorite pony writer. In unrelated news here is a snapshot of my bedroom:

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This should be a photoshop thread.

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:36 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Eh, it makes sense to me. Rarity seems like the type that wouldn't know too much about farming even if she lives in an agricultural town.


She knows how a wagon works, she knows how a plow works. :rainbert:

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Should be Nicholas Cage.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:37 pm

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I mean Jesus Christ can't they try that once in a while? With how this season's going I'd trust this crew with Fluttershy becoming a Truther or something ludicrous like that.


:flutterdear: Ohmigosh. Think about it. It all adds up!

:ponder: The Canterlot Wedding was an inside job!

:butwhy: PRINCESS CELESTIA WHY WON'T YOU PROVE TO US YOU AREN'T A SECRET CHANGELING! SHOW US YOUR FOALING RECORDS!

:unenthused: And what does that make us?

:modesty: Adopted?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:40 pm

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This should be a photoshop thread.

Rarity's Secret Shame.



Oooh, good idea.

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Postby Pocket (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:43 pm

Pinkie Pie's head inflating and then floating away reminded me of that one weird kid from Horton Hears a Who.

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I just love Dash's face there. It's just the perfect "...huh???" face.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:45 pm

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Obligatory Fluts cute :allears: pic of the week - slim pickings this week though

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I'm so sorry, AB. It won't last long...

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Oof, Cowgirlitied. So sorry...

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The Oranges like to eat such fancy foods as duck, so of course they taught AJ a duckface.

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And now what we'll remember this episode for:

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So Rarity didn't recognize AJ's dress, yet it's one of Rarity's... really should have been AJ's, it was a perfect time to callback to the Oranges.

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Trenderhoof hasn't entirely given up on apples yet...

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And uh yeah, that's all I have. :pinkieshrug:


I feel like this episode was built around that one Mudity joke. Which is an excellent joke, but it didn't serve well as a climax, nor is building an episode that way any good at all. Great voice acting, but that's a norm for this show - this fell short of pony standards, try again next week.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:48 pm

What exactly is "pony standards", instead of "personal standards" I mean everyone's opinions on episodes are different, I mean most people thought last week's episode was super amazing while I thought it was :pinkieshrug: okay

Doesn't mean it missed any set standards or anything.
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Postby Lion Heart (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:49 pm

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She knows how a wagon works, she knows how a plow works. :rainbert:



I'm terrible at this sorta stuff, but aren't wagons usually used to get around? Plows are usually only found in farms so it's possible she just doesn't mentally make the connection right away and just chooses to get frustrated instead of thinking it through.

I think it's less being stupid and more Rarity quits very quickly when she doesn't understand something. Especially as a magic user, it's very possible she's really used to things just working for her right away. :gonkity:


Anyway, I thought this episode was a lot of fun. Tabitha chews through every scene like I imagine a love struck, nervous Rarity would. It's crazy to think I didn't like Rarity's character at some point in the show because I've loved all of her recent episodes. I mean, sure they don't stray too far from the formula here so anyone who doesn't care much for these characters would probably not like this one, which is understandable, but personally I thought everyone played their role so well that I had too much fun to say the same.

Applejack (or I guess Ashleigh) was perfect as the perfect "down to earth" character that didn't understand what was going on, not because she's simple, but because she just happened to get stuck in the love triangle of two of the most dramatic divas in Ponyville, which would understandably confuse anyone. :dizzy: Rarity as mentioned was great, and even Trenderhoof had a few lines that made me smile.

My only seriously complaint (since I must admit, I'm not really huge on analyzing episodes like a lot here seem to do, mostly because of how bad I think I am at it) was really the ending. It felt out of place and rushed, especially with Trenderhoof going on stage and giving her rose. I guess it was supposed to be a feelgood thing?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:52 pm

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:56 pm

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Good to see Geomancing's work becoming canon.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:58 pm

But in the show she's not scratching her ear. She's clearly farting. :spike101:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:03 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Image

Good to see Geomancing's work becoming canon.


Ooh! I’ve always loved that picture. Horses should be horses, even when they are fabulous pastel horses. I’m still waiting to see somepony graze, though.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:13 pm

In short, everything that was wrong with this episode was saved by Tabitha and Ashleigh's amazing performances.

Rarity's natural "high-class" accent is dangerously close to aristocratic Southern as it is, so having her drop into a backwoods drawl and do it really badly is hilarious. And we already knew AJ could pull off an aristocratic accent, so the contrast was really fun.
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Postby Kamek (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:20 pm

Looks like everything I had to say has already been said. Mediocre episode, but made hilarious by the great voice work of Tabitha and Ashleigh. They should not have picked the climax of the episode as a spoiler clip, and I will probably try to avoid spoiler clips from now on.

Also, I lost it at the Spike fourth-wall gag. I had to pause the video for a couple of minutes :lol:
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:29 pm

Dear Sweet Celestia! Tabitha St. Germain is incredible! :vogue:

All in all, a very fun episode. In terms of the rest of Season 4, I'd personally consider this one to be slightly more "forgettable" than the rest - though that's not to say that it was a poor episode. I just have trouble getting particularly interested in I-have-a-crush-on-him types of stories. Not my cup of tea, but to each their own.

Luckily, Tabitha and Ashleigh more than made up for any plot shortcomings as far as I'm concerned. Seriously, mad props to both of them for pulling out all the stops. I could not stop laughing at Rarity's attempts at a southern accent. Did I mention that Tabitha is utterly amazing?!

So, an enjoyable outing of pony. I'm glad that, even if an episode's writing/story isn't top-tier (which does happen occasionally), the voice actors, animators, and characters always manage to make every episode enjoyable as a whole.

Tabitha St. Germain = WINNING! :wink:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:29 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Las Pegasus seems to be the final and proper name for that city. We, and the first map, had originally misheard it as Los Pegasus.

I think Las Pegasus makes more sense, but the version of the map they included with the soundtrack booklet called it Los Pegasus. And it's next to a big fake Hollywood sign. :pinkieshrug:

Pinkie is so excited she forgets about gravity!
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Nice touch with the patchwork stage and hay bales strewn around.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:37 pm

Hey, Derpy had a great idea! :rainbert:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:42 pm



Dang. That's way better than mine. :golfclop:
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Postby Venusy (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:47 pm

Perpetual Lurker wrote:Hey, Derpy had a great idea! :rainbert:

I'm not entirely sure about Hub logo appreciation day. :v:
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:49 pm

This episode was filled with delicious ham.

So much juicy, delicious ham... :awesomedash:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:50 pm

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Candy mane still hasn't gotten her cutie mark.

:ohboy: Recruitment drive?

Recruitment drive! :scootawoo:

She says no every single day we ask her! :flail:
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:00 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Nice touch with the patchwork stage and hay bales strewn around.
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We are the knights who say neigh! :v:

God was this episode hilarious. Especially the 2nd half (just as entertaining were the comments about waifu stealing on the Bronystate chat :gotcha: ). It had to be hard for Tabitha to do a combo of voices.

Loved the little ref' to Derpy.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:01 pm

Haven't read more than this page of thread.

Best.

Episode.

EVER.

Hilarious. Well animated. Tabby voice acting like a goddamned BOSS.

It even has a truth filled message of truthness. ( Goons have said this show has messages all adults should have known for years. Goons clearly need to get out of the house more and interact with actual people :-/ )

This episode had me constantly laughing.
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Postby Kronos (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:02 pm

Fun ep, certainly not the best but after two slam-dunk episodes I think a cool-down episode was necessary. That, and this episode clearly makes up for most of the 2+ years of no Rarity focus episodes with the hamminess.

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Soon best pony will make her triumphant since becoming a vampire pony :allears:


Actually, S5 is confirmed, so that's an entire 45 episodes :party:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:07 pm

Told ya it was a regular episode.


Overall, meh. Most of the entertaining and funny stuff is at the end of the episode.

It's not good or bad, just average. Which isn't a bad thing (the season could use some average episodes, instead of just good and bad ones).
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:14 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:I think Las Pegasus makes more sense, but the version of the map they included with the soundtrack booklet called it Los Pegasus. And it's next to a big fake Hollywood sign. :pinkieshrug:

If that version didn't have the Crystal Empire then it's the first map. The second map (issued in the official guidebook) added the Crystal Empire and fixed several typos, including Las Pegasus and Manehattan.
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Postby Mir (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:22 pm

It was an okay episode. :pinkieshrug:

The story was played a little more straight than I cared for.

Have to admit though, Rarity's southern accent was a thing of horrifying beauty.

The whole things was as if these two collided in a huge, fiery explosion.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:30 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:If that version didn't have the Crystal Empire then it's the first map. The second map (issued in the official guidebook) added the Crystal Empire and fixed several typos, including Las Pegasus and Manehattan.

It does. It's a different version.

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Postby MasterOfKnees (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:31 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote: :ohboy: Can we go see the petting zoo next?
:wat: That... isn't a thing we ponies have, is it?




Apparently it is a pony thing.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:34 pm

Tailspin wrote:Told ya it was a regular episode.

Indeed, although it could have worked as a key episode (it would have been a weak one, though - the conflict was nowhere near heavy enough).

The trend has me worried for 2 weeks from now, but we'll see how that goes then.
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Postby Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:34 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:It does. It's a different version.

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Is Pinkie really close, a giant, or a settlement?

Go south from Baltimare to reach :-P or something?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:40 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Indeed, although it could have worked as a key episode (it would have been a weak one, though - the conflict was nowhere near heavy enough).

The trend has me worried for 2 weeks from now, but we'll see how that goes then.


Every key episode so far has included them not only showing another the spirit of their element, but also has them confronted with their element themselves. The only way this episode would have worked as a key ep would to have AJ be interested in Trenderhoofs infatuation and try and change herself to suit him.
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Postby Discord (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:00 pm

On the whole "Rarity went through this with Blueblood" point:

People don't develop linearly, and I dislike when people expect good characters to on a long-arcing series like this. Learning a lesson does not mean that relapses don't happen, or you are necessarily going to act a certain way when confronted by any situation remotely similar. It's the same kind of logic that went into the nonsense I used to see around Fluttershy's development. "Why is she still shy? She's already had multiple episodes where she learns to assert herself." When you're talking about something that ties into the core of a character, growth doesn't necessarily work that way- in reality or fiction.

It's a fine-line to walk when you want to develop characters and have them grow as people, while also maintaining their centres and not having them become unrecognizable from where they began. I don't think this episode really stumbles in that balance. I have a distaste for the whole romantic sub-plot as well, but it doesn't strike me that the Blueblood experience means that Rarity is necessarily going to be, or should be, disinterested in romantic pining. As well highlighted, it relates to her centre. She had a relapse in letting it consume her too much, but it feels different enough that it is believable to me.
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Postby everyponytothelimit (?) » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:15 pm

The Doctor wrote:
Every key episode so far has included them not only showing another the spirit of their element, but also has them confronted with their element themselves. The only way this episode would have worked as a key ep would to have AJ be interested in Trenderhoofs infatuation and try and change herself to suit him.


I think it could have worked if Applejack had been given a bit more focus.
For example: Rarity imitates AJ poorly and offensively. AJ wants Rarity to be true to herself (honesty) but her hurt from Rarity's bad impression twists that from 'its good to be true to yourself' into 'it sucks when people crudely parrot you' and frou-frou's herself up. This culminates in something like what we had, but maybe goes a bit further to the point where both of them are now really upset with each other, but then realize what they did wrong.

Rarity learns to be true to herself, AJ learns not to lie, even in order to get others to realize the truth or something. Bam! Double lesson.

I'll probably have some more in depth thoughts later I guess. I'm sure some of you have been waiting 2.5 years for that (kidding).
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