S05E23: The Hooffields and McColts

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Re: S05E23: The Hooffields and McColts

Postby Eurocoin (?) » Sat Nov 14, 2015 8:05 pm

Mr. Big wrote:Twilight called back to the first time she used the freeze spell ("It's harder to do this on an army than just six of you!").


If that was a reference to "Castle-Mane-ia", then she better start reading some math books next, since she only froze RD, Fluttershy, Rarity and Applejack at that time.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:47 pm

Another fun but effectively harmless filler episode. More rad TSparks Turbonerd action but.. It's all been done before. Though given Friday night, we could use some magical friendship horsies IRL. :fluttersmith:

( As opposed to what we really get IRL which is basically HIT HIM. YOU GONNA TAKE THAT? CMON KICK HIS ASS HE CALLED YOUR MOM A SLUT! FIIIGHT! I think this is why I like TSparks so much. I generally don't get people acting crappy to each other and want folks to use common sense and reason. People don't do this. To the point I wonder if I am a damn space alien. Except I have no cool space powers. Not even a talking flying space Hammerhead Shark Robot named Nigel. Who could transform into a suit of power armor for me. Like the Motoslaves from Bubblegum Crisis. WHERE IS MY TRANSFORMING SHARK ARMOR? :gonkity: )
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sat Nov 14, 2015 11:38 pm

I really liked this one. Sure, it may have been predictable, but unpredictable episodes are in the minority by far with this show.

I really liked the Fluttershy/Twilight rapport and the guest cast offered a lot of character and quite a few laughs. Some nice action too, and nice subtle themes about collateral damage and becoming the antithesis of what you set out to be.

Juniper Phoenix wrote::twonk: Ooh, could it be about when two friends just randomly decide to do something together, but they forget to invite their third friend, and the third friend feels left out?

She's still salty about that. :gotcha:


That made me smile.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:56 am

Aramek wrote:It was super cute, had a lot of great faces, and, best of all, genuine pony violence. I loved it.


:3: Adorable attempted Murder.

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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:29 am

It is interesting to see that ponies do, in fact, have rather violent wars as opposed to the adorable horse noises and cute failing limbs that I imagined pony fights consisting of.

:butt: :flail: :flipout: :nuhuh:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:30 am

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Remember that time when Fluts nearly left in MMC on this balloon? :saddershy:

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Already discussed, but yeah this is some lazy clean-up work here. There was also Big Mac's chest in Hearthbreakers that had some leftover text on it.

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This is some nice scenery, even as a landscape ravaged by a feud. These families must have been pretty insular, as this seems to be the middle of nowhere...

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aaaaaaaah a pumpkin

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:37 am

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Once again proving how much better Twilight would look with normal Pegasus wings.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:01 am

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Ma Hooffield did keep her promise... they were not pumpkined.

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And so, Achilles McColt died that day...

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:09 am

Actually I don't have too much from Act III...

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So in the end, the McColts started it all. :-I

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:23 am

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They've got their "Yeah, I'm over this." face on.
:speakest: The fun has been doubled!
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Postby BurningBright (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:58 am

As far as predictable filler eps go, this one was a lot of fun. I loved the designs of both feuding families, and it was nice to see interaction between Twilight and Fluttershy. Ma Hoofield rules. I'm surprised they didn't go with a literal trojan horse joke, but maybe that would have been too on the nose.

Also the pony violence in the final act was great. Pretty sure the animators snuck in as much G-rated violence as they could.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:49 am

BurningBright wrote:As far as predictable filler eps go, this one was a lot of fun. I loved the designs of both feuding families, and it was nice to see interaction between Twilight and Fluttershy. Ma Hoofield rules. I'm surprised they didn't go with a literal trojan horse joke, but maybe that would have been too on the nose.

Also the pony violence in the final act was great. Pretty sure the animators snuck in as much G-rated violence as they could.


I don't mean to single you out, but I always find the use of the term "filler episodes" for a show like MLP to be totally baffling. Like, is there some big story arc they should be getting back to? Isn't MLP like, 95% "filler episodes"?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:00 am

PaulloDEC wrote:Like, is there some big story arc they should be getting back to?

Like getting friendship missions from a map? :wink:
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:15 am

Yeah it's no masterpiece but it's alright, better than Made In Manehatten as has already been said.

Should have sent Applejack to deal with them hillybillies :gotcha:

You could see the Trojan horse cake coming a mile off.

Troubleshoes' long-lost brother is a McColt.

I'm guessing every frame has been forensically examined for Starlight Glimmer by now.

Twilight asked the killer question at the end: what next for the map now that they've all been called? What greater significance does it hold?

And Twilight was certainly bigging up her princess credentials in this episode :twiright: , a far cry from the times when she's done the opposite. Referring to herself as The Princess Of Friendship all over the place!
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Postby Doctor Wheeze (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:54 pm

Happy to see an episode with this pairing. I think

:yay: I'm Fluttershy and, um, I'm here too!

Makes it into my top favorite Fluttershy lines. The delivery was adorable.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:05 pm

Doctor Wheeze wrote:Happy to see an episode with this pairing. I think

:yay: I'm Fluttershy and, um, I'm here too!

Makes it into my top favorite Fluttershy lines. The delivery was adorable.


I really like how she wasn't portrayed as super-shy in this episode. She was quiet, but she wasn't fearful of going, or of talking to new ponies. It was a nice subtle gesture to her growth as a character.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:13 pm

The Doctor wrote:
I really like how she wasn't portrayed as super-shy in this episode. She was quiet, but she wasn't fearful of going, or of talking to new ponies. It was a nice subtle gesture to her growth as a character.

I can say from personal experience that it is a million times easier to go and do this sort of thing when you know that you have a friend along for the ride.
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Postby SneakHorse (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:04 pm

It was a fine episode - predictable, but very cute and fun, which is basically why I watch the show to begin with. Plus, Twilight being all smug about her problem-solving skills was funny.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:05 pm

Overall it wasn't too bad. Nothing groundbreaking but still funny especially with all of the pony on pony violence. :excellent:
No Starlight though.

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They've got their "Yeah, I'm over this." face on.


And the squirrel's look seems to say "Let me tell you why that's bullshit". :byopinkie:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:39 am

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^^ That is just one example of just how goofy this episode was. Really fast-and-loose with the animation especially. And also with the writing and the callbacks and the self-awareness (all the tongue-in-cheek "friendship problem" jokes), but especially the bouncing-off-the-walls animation all throughout. I almost want to say sloppy, even. But sloppy in a good way, like kind of the way S1 seemed more simplistic and primitive than the later seasons art-wise, but also more inventive and daring. I like when the show lets its hair down a bit.


Twilight, let Fluttershy's hair down :twonk:
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Postby BurningBright (?) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:53 pm

PaulloDEC wrote:
I don't mean to single you out, but I always find the use of the term "filler episodes" for a show like MLP to be totally baffling. Like, is there some big story arc they should be getting back to? Isn't MLP like, 95% "filler episodes"?


Eh, when I use the word I just mean episodes where not only is there no major story arc thing (which are the minority of episodes, which is a good thing) but also absolutely no character growth happens. This isn't a bad thing of course, because they also tend to be the stories where characters are allowed to breathe and just be themselves without being hurried along by the plot.

For example, in this one Twilight was Twilight and Fluttershy was Fluttershy. You could compare that to Scare Master where Fluttershy learned something about herself, or What about Discord where the same thing happened to Twilight.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:25 pm

I LOL'd at that bit where Twilight picks up a pile of books and Spike is underneath them reading comics :smirk:



Also the tirade about pumpkin pie, pumpkin cake, pumpkin blah blah blah, pumpkin FRIT-TA-TAs... "...Actually that all sounds pretty good. BUT STILL"


Also Fluttershy getting impatient and shoving the tortoise under the bush :lol:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:27 pm

BurningBright wrote:
Eh, when I use the word I just mean episodes where not only is there no major story arc thing (which are the minority of episodes, which is a good thing) but also absolutely no character growth happens. This isn't a bad thing of course, because they also tend to be the stories where characters are allowed to breathe and just be themselves without being hurried along by the plot.

For example, in this one Twilight was Twilight and Fluttershy was Fluttershy. You could compare that to Scare Master where Fluttershy learned something about herself, or What about Discord where the same thing happened to Twilight.
It could be that this episode just didn't want to be very blatant about it. Consider how The Doctor mentioned that Fluttershy seemed much less unwilling to go on this adventure than she has been in the past. Even though this episode didn't ram that fact in our face, it still seems like evidence of growth to me.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:34 pm

I think she was talking about growth that occurs within the episode (making it a landmark kind of thing), rather than just an acknowledgment that growth has taken place in the past.


In any case this isn't a value judgment. Ain't nothing wrong with an episode that just sort of happens. This isn't ATLA, where an actual "filler" episode is easily identified as such and genuinely irritating because it disrupts the flow of an ongoing story the audience is dying to see more of.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:05 am

Time for me to watch a cartoon about ponies and then post about it! :party:
  • Wuthering Hooves! :allears: The Fluttershy version leaves out the parts where Hoofcliff bashes his head against a tree and dies of pneumonia.
  • I forgot that Twilight can teleport other people with her! It's been a while since she did that.
  • This has been a kickass season for Twilight. She's more herself than ever. Maybe it took the show some time to figure out how to keep her interesting as princess, but they've got the hang of it now.
  • Ha, Spike and his comic.
  • :excite: "Here we go! Page 236: Pumpkins (flying), dodging."
  • Wooden cannons no longer surprise me.
  • Then things go black for a bit and when the show comes back, they're visiting the McColts.
  • "actually that all sounds pretty good ... BUT IT'LL GET OLD!!" :applejargh:
  • :excite: "Have you tried getting frozen by windigos? That's been known to work."
  • The animals will clearly come in play later, but I can't guess how.
  • Well, I suppose a Trojan horse would have been too recursive.
  • "Our carrots will darken the sky!" "Then we will fight in the shade."
  • Twilight left a puddle of tears. :saddershy:
  • Where do the pages go after Twilight poofs them? Do they come out Spike's nose?
  • Fuck yeah, when a princess tells you to shut up, you shut up. :speakest:
  • Doing food or shelter first is my dilemma whenever I play Banished, so I sympathize.
  • My Little Pony: Ceasefires Are Kind of Magic, Too

Mini-review: Competent! Not memorable, but competent! Twilight-Fluttershy dynamic was the best part and it's kind of a shame the ep had to have, you know, a plot to depart from that.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:09 am

Mechanical Ape wrote:Then things go black for a bit and when the show comes back, they're visiting the McColts.

Were you watching a TV rip or the iTunes version? When I was watching this episode when it aired on TV, it also went black for me right at that part, as if whatever satellite that was had sent the Discovery Family signal to Comcast had a hiccup right at that moment. I thought I was the only one who had that happen. :psygum:
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:21 am

Yeah, I'd recorded off the TV broadcast.

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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:19 pm

He's an honorary Doof.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:00 pm

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:shock: :"Lo, there but for the grace of Celestia, go I."
:cheese: :"Yeah, I'm so glad my family isn't screwed up like that!"
:sheepish: :"..."
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:21 pm

I was late re-watching this one. A few things that jumped out at me:

The McColts are really, really tall.
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I'm not entirely sure all the animals are getting the most out of Furry Friends Book Club...
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Can't get over that friggin' muscle hat
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Half the ponies have fightin' dust cloud cutie marks
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Big guy just basically sits there the whole time while other ponies throw themselves at him
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Banjo fight music actually being played by a pony
Big guy just eating a cupcake like it ain't no thing
Also, big guy's cutie mark is a bag of hammers.
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The wise patriarch
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