S04E16: It Ain't Easy Being Breezies

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Re: S04E16: It Ain't Easy Being Breezies

Postby Venusy (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:09 pm

Kamek wrote:Oh yeah, what was the deal with Time Turner and Roseluck? Is that a reference to something, because it just... breezed right past me :gotcha:

(Also it seemed random and unnecessary)

David Tennant's portrayal of Doctor Who would occasionally pull out 3D glasses for seeing things in other universes - including in the new season 2 finale (Army of Ghosts/Doomsday), where he said goodbye to his companion Rose.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:12 pm

Watched this a second time and I liked it even more. The Breezies and their fake Swedish are adorable and Seabreeze is one of my favorite one-shot characters.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:19 pm

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:20 pm

Sind, the first 6 minutes were all pretty great... I'm kind of against people just quitting mid-episode on any first watch, though. :rainbert:

Anyways, sorry I can't do mini-FFT all, I'm going to be very busy until probably spring break in two weeks. Have some ManeBreezies though:

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:notthisshitagain: : Wut in the world

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:iiaia: : Finally, exactly 3 seasons later, my moment of glory has returned!

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:cry: : No no no, what is this new... appendage??

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Pinkie Pie: Master of the odd-looking transition frames.

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So many clear wings...

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So, uh... why did this need a portal again? It could have just been a tiny village hollowed out in some mountain or something. Magic/portal felt like really odd editions. Also, this is kind of a generic "magic pixie city" that didn't really impress me. I can definitely understand why this ep felt bizarre for many.

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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:24 pm

It needed a portal because portals are awesome.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:24 pm

The portal lets them be locked away so they never have to be mentioned again. :gotcha:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:27 pm

Who was that pony who appeared alongside Flitter to help generate the breeze at various points in the episode? He looked kind of like Thunderlane, but it wasn't him. The closest the credits mention is someone named Band Pony.
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Coming next season: An episode that takes place entirely in the world of the Breezies. The Breezified Mane Six show up with no explanation and are playing rock music. No one asked for it, and yet it happened.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:29 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Who was that pony who appeared alongside Flitter to help generate the breeze at various points in the episode? He looked kind of like Thunderlane, but it wasn't him. The closest the credits mention is someone named Band Pony.

Coming next season: An episode that takes place entirely in the world of the Breezies. The Breezified Mane Six show up with no explanation and are playing rock music. No one asked for it, and yet it happened.


So long as this is the song playing. :black101:




Edit: Wait, you sure that wasn't Thunderlane?
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:31 pm

The portal seems to be the only way in/ out of the Breezies homeland, its obviously a way to protect them. They are an endangered species after all. :-P

Edit: Yea it wasnt TL. Looked like him but had diff voice & cutie mark.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:33 pm

fenster wrote:Though to be honest, I'm not a fan of the animation of the Breezies you see in the second half where they float around without flapping their wings. It doesn't look horrible per say, but it's just Biologically weird and feels like it has some lame in world explanation of "magic".


Still catching up on the thread, but I wanted to note this—

My feeling was that the Breezies' wings don't flap at all. They're not really "wings" in the traditional sense; they're just wind-catcher things, and they literally just ride the breeze on them. They're like dandelion seeds.

And that's what I think they were going for with the odd surprising physics of everything. Think of the Breezies like a bunch of dandelion seeds. Their "vanes" can get sort of intertwined together, and multiple seeds can sort of fuse into a single mass. If they're all clumped together, they stand a better chance of going in a straight line together, though they need a stronger breeze to get them going. But if they all start splitting apart, a single light breeze might get them moving, but they'll go in every which direction.

I thought it was an ingenious way to avoid having to animate all those diaphanous little wings actually flapping and moving each of them of their own accord. They're completely at the whim of whatever wind comes along.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:35 pm



It's over. Best Breezy art has been drawn.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:38 pm

The Doctor wrote:The portal lets them be locked away so they never have to be mentioned again. :gotcha:

:-P Still, it felt kind of off to me. But, Equestria(TM) can handle any creation, it seems.

Sudden portal/magic capability, Twilight big OP spell, and the plain :starity: of Mane 6 as Breezies definitely made for some bizarre moments. I think the Mane 6 Breezies invoked a sense of "I'm really watching a kids show that really is doing its usual marketing thing" with the toyetic feel that had varying degrees of uncomfortableness for most.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:44 pm

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:bluh: "Y'know, Breezies don't seem as cute now that we're tiny as they are."
:v: "I know, right? You can see all their blemishes and flaws. Like Zipzee has really bad skin, and there's something gross in Seabreeze's nose but I don't know how to tell him."
:pinkieshrug: "I'm breathing through holes in my abdomen and it's kinda freaking me out!"
:twiright: "They're called spiracles, Pinkie, and they're completely normal for insects and other lower creatures. Like ... um ... us."
:cry: "Twilight? After we get back, this never happened, all right? No siblings need to know?"
:-I "Agreed."
:starity: "And do please try not to flirt with any superficially cute males of a different species during our stay, hmmm?"
:twonk: "That only happened one time!"
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Postby Minty (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:48 pm

Breezies are adorable, I want 90.

And I keep calling Seabreeze "Seabreezie". :bluh:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:48 pm

The fan artists hopefully remember that Twilight learned this spell form Celestia and Luna's old books. They probably ambushed each other with it all the time.

:gotcha: Hey Luna! Remember that movie "Gone With the Wind"?

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Postby J. Jonah Jameson (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:50 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I'm wondering, did Hasbro ever mandate those things in the first place, and if so, were there PLANS to ever make toy versions of those, but for some reason they decided to scrap them for something else by the time these shows make it on air?

I think Hasbro insists on having certain things in the show to make toys of them, but I have no idea why they're so bad at following up on that and actually selling those toys. Like I said, you'd think that the crystal versions of the mane 6 were a toy tie-in, but the closest they got to a release was just the same toys as before with a bit of glitter. The pony wedding toys weren't available to buy until months after the episode actually aired. Hasbro are absolutely dreadful at this, and I seriously doubt we'll see toys of the breezie mane 6 inside 2014, if at all.

Honestly? I don't understand why so many people dislike when an obvious toy tie-in shows up in the show. The show is, after all, just a twenty-minute toy advertisement. And as someone who actually collects said toys, I'd genuinely prefer if they actually tried to sell me new stuff instead of just re-releasing the mane 6 over and over with different amounts of tinsel in their hair :-/ I'd welcome some breezie sculpts. Hell, Hasbro, make them gryphons next episode and sell toys of that too. Sell me a brushable toy of every pony in ponyville. Just stop trying to sell me the same dang ponies over and over with tinsel. (And also raise the quality on your equestria girls dolls if you're going to make them as expensive as clearly superior dolls on the market, come on)

Minty wrote:Breezies are adorable, I want 90.

And I keep calling Seabreeze "Seabreezie". :bluh:

That actually is his name on the toy packaging! :spike101:

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Postby Minty (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:53 pm

HASSSSBROOOOOO :no:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:05 pm

I can't wait to find out that this was exactly like the very first episodes—packed full of toy tie-in hooks that originated completely with the writing/animation team, that Hasbro never mandated nor had any intention of capitalizing on :gotcha:

Add this to Twilight's Tree Library Playset and Celestia's Chariot and the Warm-Water-Activated Cutie Marks and the Elements of Harmony Pony Accessories that the show keeps shoving at the toy division yelling "Take it! Take it! PLEEAAAASE :gonkity: " while the toy division is all like :q: :silly: :thejoke: BIBBIDY BIBBIDY BIBBIDY
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Postby Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:09 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Add this to Twilight's Tree Library Playset and Celestia's Chariot and the Warm-Water-Activated Cutie Marks and the Elements of Harmony Pony Accessories that the show keeps shoving at the toy division yelling "Take it! Take it! PLEEAAAASE :gonkity: " while the toy division is all like :q: :silly: :thejoke: "we want that sweet sweet monster high money so bad"


Fixed that for you.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:12 pm

Seabreeze: BORK BORK BORK *crash*

:glare: Seabreeze! Stop that! Only Angel is allowed to throw my pots and pans around.
:speakest: The fun has been doubled!
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Postby Kronos (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:13 pm

There is an unsettling trend with Fluttershy episodes this season involving transforming her in various ways. First she turns into a bat pony, then Flutterguy gets resurrected, and now she becomes an entirely different species altogether.

Headless Horse wrote:I can't wait to find out that this was exactly like the very first episodes—packed full of toy tie-in hooks that originated completely with the writing/animation team, that Hasbro never mandated nor had any intention of capitalizing on :gotcha:

Add this to Twilight's Tree Library Playset and Celestia's Chariot and the Warm-Water-Activated Cutie Marks and the Elements of Harmony Pony Accessories that the show keeps shoving at the toy division yelling "Take it! Take it! PLEEAAAASE :gonkity: " while the toy division is all like :q: :silly: :thejoke: BIBBIDY BIBBIDY BIBBIDY


I want to ask the toy division why they hate sticking to the actual show, or why they are perfectly incapable of making ponies from the show when all they need to do is change one or two paint apps, plastic color, and doll hair.
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Fixed that for you.


Thank goodness somebody else sees it the same way as me.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:16 pm

Headless Horse wrote:I can't wait to find out that this was exactly like the very first episodes—packed full of toy tie-in hooks that originated completely with the writing/animation team, that Hasbro never mandated nor had any intention of capitalizing on :gotcha:

Even if this was so, I feel like this episode has to be one of the most "generic kids half-hour" in the show, mostly because of the last five minutes. It's not enough to fully stain the excellent core at the heart of the episode, but it's definitely tarnished at least a bit. If this episode showed up in early S1, I'm not sure it would be well received - a lot of early "it's for toys!!" complaints could have been justified. Even if it's not true and you're right, it sure felt that way.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:19 pm

That was a shockingly great episode. The Breezies being adorable little Swedish fairies, Fluttershy learning that there's actually a balance between being a doormat and being hardcore (again kinda but the Iron Will episode was more 'stop being a dick Fluttershy'), general cuteness. All very good.

Also I know I said it in the chat but seriously someone take Rarity's shiny dress bit and put Kill La Kill's Blumenkranz behind it, that's literally all I need in the world.
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Postby J. Jonah Jameson (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:28 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Add this to Twilight's Tree Library Playset and Celestia's Chariot and the Warm-Water-Activated Cutie Marks and the Elements of Harmony Pony Accessories that the show keeps shoving at the toy division yelling "Take it! Take it! PLEEAAAASE :gonkity: " while the toy division is all like :q: :silly: :thejoke: BIBBIDY BIBBIDY BIBBIDY


:gonkity: we wrote in them turning into breezies. you just made some new breezie sculpts. please. PLEASE SELL SOMETHING

:-I lets make monster high dolls. only make them about half the level of quality of monster high. but still try to sell them for the same price.

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Postby Sind (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:49 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Sind, the first 6 minutes were all pretty great... I'm kind of against people just quitting mid-episode on any first watch, though. :rainbert:

No, I'm serious about this.

Here, I even went back and re-watched the six minutes to make this list of things that annoyed me :spike101:

    - clunkyly conveyed exposition
    - it's tiny so it must be cute :v:
    - Pinkie Pie being obnoxious
    - main six not understanding the concept of quietness
    - cringeworthy forced callback to sonic rainboom
    - more clunky exposition :party:
    - breezies are apparently so weak they can't even survive on their own :rainbert: Honestly, I'm starting to think they might just not be evolutionarily selected for
    - "...portal to their home" bloody hell, seriously? :rariwhat: Well at least I'm glad the writers are as intent to get rid of the Breezies as I am
    - oh look, Rarity has horrible fashion sense... Humor! :v:
    - "they're as cute as Apple Bloom the day she was born". Alright, here we go; the worst thing in the first 6 minutes of It Ain't Easy Being Breezies. This seriously made me double take; I might possibly maybe potentially excuse Breezies being ugly as hell(I will get to this in a moment), given differences in ideals, but there is no way AppleJack would consider anything as cute as 'Apple Bloom on the day she was born' :ohrarity:
    (edit: I feel the need to correct, I didn't get my real issue with this across properly: The really annoying part was how they kept going on and on about how cute these creatures are(because, I dunno, that gives us a reason to care bout them?), and this scene is just the nail in the coffin. It just fees so exaggerated, expositional and forced, a perfect analogue for the episode so far.)
    - The Breezies are ugly as hell. I don't remember who said it, but yes, even the parasprites were tonnes more adorable than these deformed little things.
    - what was that? did she say something?
    - Oh look, Pinkie has a scene. Time for her to be obnoxious again everyone :pinkietoot:
    - Is spike randomly clinging to somepony's legs? :nngh:
    - Seriously, the hell is up with that?
    - more shittily written Pinkie :party:
    - Oh look, spike's gonna mess everything up :-/
    - with a single leaf :skeptical:
    - annoying-sounding Breezies(Are we gonna have to deal with this the whole episode?)
    - Fluttershy understands them perfectly :flipout:

"Alright, that's it, I'm not watching any more of this :unenthused: "
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:59 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:As I saw it, if only one or a few of them try to travel, they just can't go as fast or as far as if there were a certain critical mass of Breezies. It's like with migratory animals in real life, like how flocks of geese are somehow able to travel farther than they can on their own.


Which is actually logical. Those formations actually make it easier to cut through the air, including if there's things like *ahem* crossbreezes.

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Inicdental thought for the episode- if Breezies are from another nearby dimension, and they also existed in earlier generations, does this also imply that earlier-gen ponies might just be a portal away?
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:01 am

I don't care how much you hated the first x minutes of an ep, you might like the rest! You never know. Your opinion will forever be incomplete, I guess. :pinkieshrug:

(As an aside: all this natural selection stuff - hey, it's a cartoon. Or ponies always help them out. :-P )
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:04 am

Sind wrote:No, I'm serious about this.

Here, I even went back and re-watched the six minutes to make this list of things that annoyed me :spike101:

"Alright, that's it, I'm not watching any more of this :unenthused: "


It really wasn't the most even episode, I agree- the good parts tended to be in the center with a distinct WAT at the transformation sequence towards the end, even if it's pretty much a Hasbro Toy Mandate Moment. But it got better further in- Fluttershy/Seabreeze was good interaction, including the "why he was being such an acidic pain in the rear" part- learning that too much kindness can be as bad as not being kind enough.
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:05 am

Sind wrote:\
- "they're as cute as Apple Bloom the day she was born". Alright, here we go; the worst thing in the first 6 minutes of It Ain't Easy Being Breezies. This seriously made me double take; I might possibly maybe potentially excuse Breezies being ugly as hell(I will get to this in a moment), given differences in ideals, but there is no way AppleJack would consider anything as cute as 'Apple Bloom on the day she was born' :ohrarity:


This is a really weird thing to get mad about.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:06 am

Wayoshi wrote:I don't care how much you hated the first x minutes of an ep, you might like the rest! You never know. Your opinion will forever be incomplete, I guess. :pinkieshrug:


Or end up hating it even more and feeling he's wasted his time watching something he knew he didn't like. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby J. Jonah Jameson (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:07 am

"there is no way AppleJack would consider anything as cute as 'Apple Bloom on the day she was born'" is a pretty pedantic thing to be annoyed about, honestly. She's using it as an expression to say that they're cute. Yeah, I get it, you don't agree. I think they're cute. Maybe what you think is "horrifying hell spawn ew gross" other people consider "cute lil buggies" :pinkieshrug:

Honestly it seems like your big sticking point with this episode is you're really determined to dislike breezies. If it's stressing you out and making you mad, give it a miss. Whether or not magical bug fairy ponies fit into the theory of evolution isn't worth getting cranky about.


I'm curious now as to which one was "Breezette" :ponder:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:08 am

Better to have watched than not watch at all. I guess there's some subjectivity to the value of watching all the way through. :pinkieshrug:

On a more minor note, the blatant Doctor Who[oves] reference is pretty interesting. First time I can really recall that happening with a fanon character that wasn't Derpy.
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Postby Ragnar (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:09 am

I'm thinking that how one feels about the Breezie design is a big part of what makes or breaks this episode. Personally I liked everything about them, and they're most of why I like this episode. I don't know if I'd call them "cute," but they're wonderfully weird, and I prefer "weird" to "cute," so I win anyway. :crack:

I'm enjoying this reminder that MLP is fantasy. It's getting a little comfortable around here, like Hobbiton. I want more weird stuff, such as tiny pixie horses with wings like sails.

Every time this show introduces a new species that isn't a throwaway joke (changelings vs. rockagators) I end up loving the episode (not counting crystal ponies). More fuel for the imagination train, that's what I say! Shovel it on in there. Let's get this motherfucker chugging. choo choooo

preview edit: if they come from so far away that they have to wander across multiple biomes and then enter a magic portal, I'm comfortable assuming that they're geared for a different environment than Equestria. Anyway, Seabreeze had a baby before he left, so his genes are already out there. It's too late. :hiiiii:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:10 am

WandereringPony wrote:
Which is actually logical. Those formations actually make it easier to cut through the air, including if there's things like *ahem* crossbreezes.

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Celestia long ago forbed G3 ponies from entering the FIM dimension! Mainly because no one likes them. :gotcha:

G1 & Pony Tales ponies are allowed to visit, but they have to pay a cross dimensional travel tax.
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Postby Venusy (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:11 am

I think I've figured out something that felt "off" to me about this episode. Pony usually uses a good mixture of visual and verbal storytelling. You might not get all the details if you were watching on mute (and you'd miss Tabitha's performances :whine:), but for the most part, I think you would get the gist. Here, the emphasis seems to be much more towards the verbal until Act 3. That makes it very easy to miss details. (For example, I get that the breezies were carrying pollen, but what's special about this compared to regular pollen? Or are they taking pollen from Equestria to their home or vice versa? I don't know)

It almost feels like it was written for one of the chapter books or an audiobook, and adapted. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:14 am

I would love it if this emote would be implemented. :v:

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:19 am

Venusy wrote:I think I've figured out something that felt "off" to me about this episode. Pony usually uses a good mixture of visual and verbal storytelling. You might not get all the details if you were watching on mute (and you'd miss Tabitha's performances :whine:), but for the most part, I think you would get the gist. Here, the emphasis seems to be much more towards the verbal until Act 3. That makes it very easy to miss details. (For example, I get that the breezies were carrying pollen, but what's special about this compared to regular pollen? Or are they taking pollen from Equestria to their home or vice versa? I don't know)

It almost feels like it was written for one of the chapter books or an audiobook, and adapted. :pinkieshrug:



You know what, I think thats A pretty spot on way of describing the episode. It felt like a good adaption of A children 's book. *even though it wasnt*

Also, great, now I want to see them actually adapt a book or comic story in a future season just to see what thay would feel like.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:24 am

Venusy wrote:I think I've figured out something that felt "off" to me about this episode. Pony usually uses a good mixture of visual and verbal storytelling. You might not get all the details if you were watching on mute (and you'd miss Tabitha's performances :whine:), but for the most part, I think you would get the gist. Here, the emphasis seems to be much more towards the verbal until Act 3. That makes it very easy to miss details. (For example, I get that the breezies were carrying pollen, but what's special about this compared to regular pollen? Or are they taking pollen from Equestria to their home or vice versa? I don't know)

It almost feels like it was written for one of the chapter books or an audiobook, and adapted. :pinkieshrug:


Makes me wonder if the plant life in Breezieville can't be pollinated by itself- and the only other population of the plants Breezies need to survive is in Western Equestria...with the portal on the other side of the kingdom.

Thus, you have these incredibly delicate little pony faeries who take a portal from their own world, have to fly across what would likely be an incredibly lethal countryside to their kind without Celestia's bunch, then back- and without pegasi helping them, likely most of them would never make it in time to begin with...which is likely why Breezies are an endangered species. The amount of pony-Breezie teamwork it must take to get them all safely across such distances without predation from wild animals, a stray storm slaughtering dozens in a single strong gust, or simply unfavorable breezes rendering their cargo spoiled and leaving them to starve from lack of food...

Brrr. No wonder interaction with them is generally so micromanaged by Equestria. Screw it up and you've destroyed an entire intelligent species that likely have a history with ponydom stretching back thousands of years.
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Postby J. Jonah Jameson (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:27 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Celestia long ago forbed G3 ponies from entering the FIM dimension! Mainly because no one likes them. :gotcha:

G1 & Pony Tales ponies are allowed to visit, but they have to pay a cross dimensional travel tax.

I like em :rainbert:

Honestly, I feel like Breezies have had a hard time since they were announced almost purely because they have roots in G3, and lots of people are biased against that. I mean compare them to changelings. Both species are bug-themed ponies but while changelings are evil and spooky, breezies are delicate and traditionally "girly". Changelings were met with pretty much no complaint, but breezies are "creepy" and "G3 hellspawn". And because they're delicate and small they're "useless" and "badly designed, not worth saving". Bleh.
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Postby fenster (?) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:29 am

Octavia wrote:I don't know how it's possible for Breezies as a species to have survived. They're so fragile, you'd think that natural selection would've wiped them out ages ago. :ponder:



Much like other actual species IRL, it's very possible that the breezies have a high birthrate that compensates for fragile contruction/deathrate. Or it could be that their magical portal saves them from most dangers, and they only encounter danger while getting pollen, not unlike some other species habits that exist where they willingly have to go into danger for various reasons.


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My feeling was that the Breezies' wings don't flap at all. They're not really "wings" in the traditional sense; they're just wind-catcher things, and they literally just ride the breeze on them. They're like dandelion seeds.

And that's what I think they were going for with the odd surprising physics of everything. Think of the Breezies like a bunch of dandelion seeds. Their "vanes" can get sort of intertwined together, and multiple seeds can sort of fuse into a single mass. If they're all clumped together, they stand a better chance of going in a straight line together, though they need a stronger breeze to get them going. But if they all start splitting apart, a single light breeze might get them moving, but they'll go in every which direction.

I thought it was an ingenious way to avoid having to animate all those diaphanous little wings actually flapping and moving each of them of their own accord. They're completely at the whim of whatever wind comes along.


This is what I thought as well, it just bothered me when it wasn't exactly like a detail said anywhere (even though it's completely irrelevant to the episode :v: ), and then it doens't completely make sense for why they'd have near exact copies of dragnfly wings. But hey, at this point I'm just thinking too hard, and you're right, not only would it have been technically hard probably to get the wings right flapping, it would've probbaly been ugly, so I'm down for just "Magic Floating". :v:
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