S05E14: Canterlot Boutique

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Re: S05E14: Canterlot Boutique

Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:13 am

Mechanical Ape wrote:Now that there's 100 of these dresses circulating out there, I hope they'll continue to appear on background ponies throughout the season.

Like, Lyra brings hers back to Ponyville, then Bon-Bon borrows it for a while, and by November it's in Granny Smith's closet for some reason.

Make that 200, with 100 additional orders Rarara refused to make. :cheese:
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:49 am

Another good Rarity episode to throw on the big stack. :wink:

I thought Sassy Saddles was going to turn out like Suri and be an antagonist so it was a nice surprise to see reconciliation between her and Rarity at the end. Can she be trusted to rein in her instincts while running the boutique unsupervised though?

Sassy reminded me of Chrysalis in Cadence form.

Angel Beat wrote:Make that 200, with 100 additional orders Rarara refused to make. :cheese:


Yeah that was a slight little bit of a logic failing in the plot, that all those posh Canterlot ponies would want identical dresses.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:56 am

I don't know, it could be a genuinely novel thing for them, being able to wear something exactly like what a celebrity model wore. That kind of thing gained popularity in the real world for a reason, after all.

I appreciated the depth and richness of the story with this one. It dealt with some very subtle conflicts and clashes of value systems which are going to be a nice challenge for the target audience to get a handle on. Look at how the dynamic between Rarity and Sassy ebbs and flows and ebbs again throughout the presentation, where Sassy's embellishments and visual aids take Rarity by surprise but she quickly rolls with it and takes advantage of them in the spirit they're offered—right up until the final dress reveal when she goes too far (and isn't immediately contrite about it when Rarity confronts her, which felt like a smack in the face).

Similarly with Sassy's pin-by-pin plan for market domination versus Rarity's "TLC" approach. Sassy genuinely thinks "Just hire some minimum wage seamstresses; you'll never have to sew again!" is a huge coup. She thinks Rarity wants to be a manager like her, not someone who actually does the creating thread by thread herself. She isn't counting on that sounding like Rarity's version of hell.

And there was a ton of interesting wordplay, which wasn't just part of the set dressing—it was actually woven into the storytelling. I thought "The Reign in Stain" was a particularly clever name for a dress, but I also laughed out loud at how badly chosen it was, how it felt like AKR must have been so pleased with herself for coming up with it that she ignored how clumsy and unappealing it sounds what with its various layers of meaning (who wants a stained dress?). ...And then it turns out that Sassy brings that point up herself and makes a plot point out of it. That's some "Does it make any sense to set up a baked goods stand at a catered Gala?" level stuff.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:34 pm

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Did the opening scene with Rarity talking through her giant glasses the whole time bug you too?

I've actually never been terribly fond of ponies wearing glasses, either. :wat: They at least aren't as bad since they don't obscure the shape of the eyes, vs. hairdos that come down to or past the brow. Occasionally that's important for a look (such as the various shots we've seen of Fluttershy peeking out from behind her mane), but for ponies like Rainbow Dash and Twilight Sparkle I find it a bit annoying that their hair covers as much of their face as it does.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:35 pm

I really liked goth pony and her sister. Did they have names?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:37 pm

Sailor Yue wrote:I really liked goth pony and her sister. Did they have names?

"Goth Pony" and probably "Bright Pony". :maud:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:05 pm

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:gotcha: entirely accurate depiction of a Celestia fan vs. Luna fan.


Yes. This is very much hilari-accurate
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 4:33 pm

:unenthused: :maud: It's not that we don't like goth pony, but she's kind of a buzz kill.
:speakest: The fun has been doubled!
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:22 pm

I'm quite in favor of how Twilight is adjusting to her princess-ness this season. She gets that cute little smile when Sassy mentions "a hot new princess in Equestria".

And then she does the Royal Wave :gotcha:

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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:26 am

One thing that doesn't change is how, after all these seasons, Pinkie's antics can still make :-/ .

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:34 am

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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:36 am

^^ Haha, that's wonderful :D
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Postby Durandal (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:45 am

That blank stare of shock is fantastic :lol:
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:58 am

Not to mention the really subtle scrunchy face. :lol:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 2:59 am

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Holy crap, that's amazing.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:19 am

It's little touches like that that really make this show.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:28 am

Rarity must be doing rather well for herself financially. Owning a business and having it be successful enough to open a second location in a city like Canterlot is impressive.

Though I still like the fanon that Rainbow Dash's parents are incredibly rich and she's living high off of their money. There's no way she lives in a house like that and lives her lifestyle as just a weatherpony.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:49 am

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:vogue: "Rule of Rarity #17: If you need to check the tag, you can't afford it."
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:49 am

Master_Twig wrote:Rarity must be doing rather well for herself financially. Owning a business and having it be successful enough to open a second location in a city like Canterlot is impressive.

Though I still like the fanon that Rainbow Dash's parents are incredibly rich and she's living high off of their money. There's no way she lives in a house like that and lives her lifestyle as just a weatherpony.



Well, as to the house, Rainbow Dash can build it herself, so it probably costs nothing.

But she did throw herself an incredibly elaborate Birthday Party, and someone had to foot the bill.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:53 am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY RAINBOWDASH
RAINBOWDASH IS TWO WORDS
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:58 am

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Bwa ha ha :lol:

I love how her pupil shrank after seeing the price
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:30 am

Master_Twig wrote:Though I still like the fanon that Rainbow Dash's parents are incredibly rich and she's living high off of their money. There's no way she lives in a house like that and lives her lifestyle as just a weatherpony.

It's easier when you can make your house out of rain.

Enchanting all your statues not to fall through the floor, though.... :awkward:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:01 am

Master_Twig wrote:Rarity must be doing rather well for herself financially. Owning a business and having it be successful enough to open a second location in a city like Canterlot is impressive.

Though I still like the fanon that Rainbow Dash's parents are incredibly rich and she's living high off of their money. There's no way she lives in a house like that and lives her lifestyle as just a weatherpony.


They straight-out say it was doing that work for Sapphire Shores that got her the money to buy the boutique in Canterlot. So yep! (And stressed out or not, she likely just made a healthy profit off all those darn Princess dresses.)
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:48 pm

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Subtle background scenes. Only from DHX. :hiiiii:

That's me whenever I see something with a big price tag (especially when I see something with a price way more than it's worth like at an antique store or auction).
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:19 pm

Master_Twig wrote: Though I still like the fanon that Rainbow Dash's parents are incredibly rich and she's living high off of their money. There's no way she lives in a house like that and lives her lifestyle as just a weatherpony.

If any one of the Mane Six is getting money from her parents, I figured it'd be Fluttershy. She's the only one who doesn't have a clear job, and unlike Rainbow Dash, her house doesn't have a near-zero materials cost.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:36 pm

Of course there's also the Slice of Life fanon that Pinkie Pie's parents are rich and she's living with the Cakes because she wants to.

Though there is one pony who we can be absolutely sure is just being given all the money she needs. Though not from her parents. :-I
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:12 pm

Master_Twig wrote:Of course there's also the Slice of Life fanon that Pinkie Pie's parents are rich and she's living with the Cakes because she wants to.

Though there is one pony who we can be absolutely sure is just being given all the money she needs. Though not from her parents. :-I


If there's one work of fanon that needs to be made canon, it's Slice.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:45 pm

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Postby Wildfire (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:34 pm

Well it looks like we have our first revelation:

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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:44 pm

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Wait, there are other people who ship Tank and mannequin-wearing-modified-Princess-Dress?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:54 pm

Wildfire wrote:Those two pieces of streamer or whatever it's supposed to be happen to form an equal sign. Image Is this going to be a theme from now on? Or is it tin foil hat territory?

No way. Like the way the rest of the text is obscured, I think those boxes on the left are meant to be a visual shorthand for small sidebar blurbs like what you'd see in an actual magazine.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:15 am

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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:11 pm

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Those are some sharp looking suitors. What could be more classy than a pony in spats?
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:04 pm

I love it when the show gets unabashedly old-timey, and that picture is great because it's so much that. :fancyhat:

Like, it looks like it should be shot in sepiatone with Scootaloo riding by on a penny-farthing.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:34 pm

I'm a bit confused over how this episode topic works. After seeing the episode I came to the episode discussion section to comment about it. But the topic was locked for a few days. But now it has been moved here and I noticed that posts where made while it was locked. Does it just appears locked to me? Can someone explain how this works to me?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:38 pm

Soft Snow wrote:I'm a bit confused over how this episode topic works. After seeing the episode I came to the episode discussion section to comment about it. But the topic was locked for a few days. But now it has been moved here and I noticed that posts where made while it was locked. Does it just appears locked to me? Can someone explain how this works to me?

The one in the spoiler forum is left open up until a few days before the episode airs, at which point that thread gets locked and a new thread (this one) is posted in General Ponies. The spoiler forum thread is there for those who want to talk about an episode as soon as possible. It really was more useful in past seasons, as Hasbro and the Hub used to be much more forthcoming with previews and spoilers and the like, but nowadays Hasbro and Discovery Family have been rather quiet about the show in general.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:49 am

And sometimes the spoiler thread gets merged into this one once the episode airs, which (I think) mostly explains the behavior you were seeing.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:24 am

Before it airs it is in the spoiler section. After it airs it will be moved to the general section. Thank you. It must of escaped my notice until today. I'll try to be more attentive next time.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:55 am

Soft Snow wrote:Before it airs it is in the spoiler section. After it airs it will be moved to the general section. Thank you. It must of escaped my notice until today. I'll try to be more attentive next time.


Actually, it gets a (new) thread in the general section a few days before it airs. There's already one for Rarity Investigates.
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Postby Frith (?) » Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:22 am

I think this was really good episode.

Rarity was once again great and it was nice to see that she got some character development.

Sassy Saddles was nice character and a good source of conflict. Her intentions were well meaning and she was actually good at her job. Her problem was just that she didn't understand Rarity's artistic point of view.

The primary conflict of the episode between art and commerce wasn't particularly relatable for me but it felt like it was written well. The lesson seemed to be that success without happiness isn't worth it which I thought was really good lesson.

I also liked the song. The song itself was catchy and it really showed what kind of artist Rarity is.
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