S06E25-26: To Where And Back Again

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Re: S06E25-26: To Where And Back Again

Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:05 pm

DerFurShur wrote:They look less like gummy bears.


Why's everyone so down on gummy bears? I love gummy bears. We should all be so lucky as to look like them.

But yeah, I liked the candy-coloured bug-horses too. I mean, look at this majestic bastard:

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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:26 pm

Majestic isn't the first word I'd use.

But what do I know, I'm just a lazy viewer.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:43 pm

This is going to be the episode that finally tears us apart, isn't it
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Postby Skipper (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:11 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Majestic isn't the first word I'd use.

But what do I know, I'm just a lazy viewer.

I don't know.

Are you?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:14 pm

Headless Horse wrote:This is going to be the episode that finally tears us apart, isn't it

We survived for vs. from. We can survive this.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:21 pm

:pinkieshrug: I hate this episode, but it's just one episode in what was otherwise a pretty solid season. I don't think it will tears us apart.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:03 pm

I'll tear us apart. With my mighty hands. Because this owned so much.

Also I think nuChangelings look awesome and my eyes are great. They're obnoxiously loud in color, but that hammers home how elfy and magical these things are, they straight up evolved.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:55 pm

Headless Horse wrote:This is going to be the episode that finally tears us apart, isn't it

Chrysalis playing the really long game :evil:

I liked the idea of the changelings turning good and becoming the beings they were presumably always supposed to be, that's a really great message and thematically rich. I'm just not digging the art for them (and it's rare for this show that it's the art design I have a problem with). It's like those garishly stripey looks the ponies get when they do their Tree of Harmony powerup, except that only lasts long enough to blast Tirek but the new changelings are always like this. :ngh: It's no huge deal, and maybe I'll warm to it, but as of this writing, eh.

As for Celestia, who knows. At this point it shouldn't be a surprise that she gets chumped in the two-parters. It would be more of a pleasant surprise if she didn't, rather than an unpleasant surprise that she has (yet again). At least this time she's not singled out for chumping -- even main character Twilight Sparkle gets taken out off camera. In other words, this time you really could make a case that it happens because the story really requires it, and not because they couldn't think of anything for her to do.

I'm more surprised that Flurry Heart didn't play any sort of role.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:22 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:I'm more surprised that Flurry Heart didn't play any sort of role.


Seriously, at the start of the season I assumed she'd be a big deal in the finale. Especially since we saw that one changeling in the background at the start of the season. guess that was just Thorax?

But nope, she's just a toy ad* :pinkieshrug:

*for a toy that won't come out till 2019, knowing Hasbro
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:34 pm

How is babby fight?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:02 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:*for a toy that won't come out till 2019, knowing Hasbro

There is actually a small toy of her in a set with her parents. Naturally, Hasbro is releasing that set along with two sets based on things from S1. :fluttershrug:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:34 pm

Aramek wrote:How is babby fight?

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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:46 pm

I wonder now if Chrysalis is going to go sulk 'n' starve in a cave for a while, or if she's going to find some other batch of jerks to be queen of.

Also I wonder how this is all getting handled in Fluffle Puff continuity.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:13 pm


How is babby flap?
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:24 pm

Kickass Cadance is definitely in my top 3 fave Cadances.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:09 pm

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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:18 pm

Thorax's voice is wimpy enough that I can totally hear that with clarity in my head.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:27 pm

Aramek wrote:Thorax's voice is wimpy enough that I can totally hear that with clarity in my head.


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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:39 pm

I think I just noticed something important about these nuChangelings/Mothlings... Some of them don't have horns or wings!
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They went from an alicorn race to a three tribe race! They are devolved ponies!
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I wonder if they achieve having wings and horns again do they become princess? They will be legit princesses this time because there is still a queen out there.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:50 am

Headless Horse wrote:This whole bit was MESSED. UP.

Like "throw rocks at your beloved tamed wild animal you've nursed back to health to make it think you hate it and want it to go away" levels of messed up. Remember how much psychoanalytical juice there was to be squeezed from the scene in Return of Harmony where Fluttershy confronts Discord in the maze, and she defeats his attempts at attacking her self-esteem by simply copping to being weak and helpless, such that he has no choice but to resort to mind control? Yeah. There is some shit going on here.

It's all but one-sided Discord-Fluts shipping at this point. :-P

But yes, this was quite an advanced mindgame to be shown in a little girl's cartoon show. :allears:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 2:59 am

Soft Snow wrote:I think I just noticed something important about these nuChangelings/Mothlings... Some of them don't have horns or wings!
:starity:

They went from an alicorn race to a three tribe race! They are devolved ponies!
:twonk:

I wonder if they achieve having wings and horns again do they become princess? They will be legit princesses this time because there is still a queen out there.
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I think some of them just had their wings closed under a hard shell, like what beetles have. Notice how the new changelings with their wings open have the halves of their shells open as well.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:37 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I think some of them just had their wings closed under a hard shell, like what beetles have. Notice how the new changelings with their wings open have the halves of their shells open as well.

Maybe so. But I did notice a few without the equivalent of a unicorn horn. They were so uniformed before, why the change? What do you think it could mean?
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:57 am

Soft Snow wrote:Maybe so. But I did notice a few without the equivalent of a unicorn horn. They were so uniformed before, why the change? What do you think it could mean?
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The switch from an entirely uniform species with no particular individual traits to a diverse species with unique strengths, weaknesses and abilities (ala ponies)? The episode seems to imply that the Changelings hadn't been meeting their full potential under their old lifestyle, so perhaps this change will see them become less drone-like and more like the other Equestrian races (Yaks, Griffons, Dragons, Ponies, etc).
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue Oct 25, 2016 1:38 pm

You know, even if Celestia was unavailable, it would've been nice if Philomena showed up to help. She would've been a good teammate. She may not fit the reformed villain theme but she's very pranky.

Like maybe the anti-magic bubble forces her to revert to her sick chicken self.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:09 am

PaulloDEC wrote:
The switch from an entirely uniform species with no particular individual traits to a diverse species with unique strengths, weaknesses and abilities (ala ponies)? The episode seems to imply that the Changelings hadn't been meeting their full potential under their old lifestyle, so perhaps this change will see them become less drone-like and more like the other Equestrian races (Yaks, Griffons, Dragons, Ponies, etc).

I hope some of the changelings aren't sad that they can't use their magic anymore.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:56 am

I wouldn't worry, they seem pleased with how things turned out for them. :good:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:37 pm

Awfully convenient then that they can't seem to ... speak
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:44 pm

Which seems to apply to Thorax as well.

Which just makes things all the easier for Celestia when her new allies can't seem to talk.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:53 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Which seems to apply to Thorax as well.

Which just makes things all the easier for Celestia when her new allies can't seem to talk.

They're deciding if they're gonna change/magic up his voice.

Add in some wet reverb and flanger.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:38 pm

Was there actually any confirmation that Thorax's lack of lines after he changed was because the people making this show wanted a new actor for him but could not find one at all? I figure it was because the episode wanted to focus on Chrysalis and Starlight with the little time it had left.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 7:38 pm

That sounds 200% unsubstantiated rumor, as he had a lot of lines throughout both episodes.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:11 pm

I mean if they needed a new voice they could have got someone. Or Jim would have done it himself. I'm sure Thorax's current VA could have done a deeper voice if that's what they're going for.

I think it's simply that there was no reason for him to have a line. Though, I do think they will change it.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:04 pm

I wonder if the new Changelings will generate love or whatever kind of energy they need within themselves, or if they'll still need an external source.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:51 pm

I'm certain they'll change Thorax's voice, at least a little bit, because keeping his old one as the new Changeling ruler would make any episodes with him feel like The Office.
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Postby Lhet (?) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:41 am

This was cool.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:28 pm

Lhet wrote:This was cool.

:hishovel: oh good, you made it.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:36 am

Finally finally finally got to seeing this.


For some reason I really like the Changelings cosplaying as the main six. I don't know how the VAs really convey the sense that the characters are all slightly possessed. It isn't just the writing, but they sound like they take a more casual tone of voice.

I get a kick out of the Changlings trying to keep character while being jerks to each other.


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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:41 am

Soft Snow wrote:How many changelings would it take to take down a Alicorn?


With enough help, you can achieve anything! :party:

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:12 pm

It was amusing to see Spike-changeling still be the butt of the group, and you can tell the changelings just had a little info on their personalities to try to act ("let me guess - the decorations were terrifying!"). Meanwhile, the one that acted the best was the leader, Twilight-changeling.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:52 am

Wayoshi wrote:It was amusing to see Spike-changeling still be the butt of the group, and you can tell the changelings just had a little info on their personalities to try to act ("let me guess - the decorations were terrifying!"). Meanwhile, the one that acted the best was the leader, Twilight-changeling.


Which makes sense, as Twilight's the one they'd probably both have the most info on and put the most work into preparing for.
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