S06E09: The Fault in Our Cutie Marks

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Re: S06E09: The Fault in Our Cutie Marks

Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:14 pm

adiwan wrote:Before I forget: My highlight was the bit in the cold open with the pony with bones on her cutie mark. Strangely I liked that the show tried to hint murder but they double-dodged it with archeology and pirates.


I cracked up at the giant skull slowly rising out of the pit.

Given the dad's fencing cutie mark, and the mom's pearl cutie mark, maybe they wanted their daughter to be a pirate...
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Train hard, and someday you kids can graduate to pies or even cakes!
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Get that catbird a flea collar :v:
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She can shake three sets of hooves with only two hands!
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Caw caw motherfucker
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:-D
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Unusual mane behind the CMC
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Curiously strong pirate theme this episode.
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Another detail I cracked up at. "This calls for a full-scale research project! *tapping hoof excitedly*"
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:27 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Unusual mane behind the CMC
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I think that might be the filly from Crusaders of the Lost Mark who Diamond Tiara accused of having mane extensions?
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:36 pm

Scootaloo, I think you're stepping on that pony's hoof Image
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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:46 pm

Wanted to hug Scoots so hard after this Episode. But hearing that they wanted a CMC episode in the second half makes me sad, I was really hopeful for another Scoot-centric episode this season. Thankfully this one had a lot of good Scootaloo parts to it.

I really want to see some screencaps of Gabby's Cutesenara!
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:46 pm

So you like helping people? Then have I got the job for you! :amazing:

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:12 pm

I can relate Gabby. I did cable/internet customer service for six years. :unenthused:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:26 pm

Octavia wrote:This needs to be a smiley

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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:44 pm

I thought Gabby was kind of obnoxious, she was like Pinkie Pie on steroids. I wasn't sold on the conclusion either :-I

Really good cold open though :v:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:48 pm

AAAaaaa holy jesus that cold open :lol:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:52 pm

Octavia wrote:I kinda wanna put Pinkie and Gabby in a room together and see what happens


The apocalypse
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:56 pm

Magical horses with destiny marks on their butts, that just makes logical sense. The same thing for griffons? Well, that's just absurd.

• Oh gosh, those yuppie pony parents are super adorable.
• Ha! Great cold open. :lol:
• HYPER GRIFFON
• My goodness, she's like the Pinkie Pie of griffons. No, even more -- she's the Judy Hopps of griffons.
• Always love the variety of griffon designs. It's probably a fun change of pace for the animators, too.
• "what the apples" :gah:
• Aaaaand she's off again.
• Of course there's a song!
• Gabby's prance (canter?) animation is too cute.
• So it's a typical Crusaders Go Crusading montage, except Gabby is actually good at everything, interesting. :ponder:
• Don't sell yourself short, Scootaloo, you guys fail all the time! :)
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• I guess I'm reduced to emotes now.
• Gabby's VA was great. Don't recognize anything else she's done, but she's got prior MLP on her resume.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:13 pm

Good grief (griff?), what a cute episode. :3:
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:28 pm

What a cute ep. Cold open was one of the best and Gabby was so cheerful.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:35 pm

Dexanth wrote:
The apocalypse

Now, now, that all depends on Gabby's appetite for sugar.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:46 pm

Griffons are cool.

Gabby is cool and enthusiastic. (Also seemingly part of the Aramek Hug Cult.)

It was good cartoon episode.

Edit: and now we have Pony Grant from Jurassic Park. :awesomedash:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 7:48 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:I thought Gabby was kind of obnoxious, she was like Pinkie Pie on steroids. I wasn't sold on the conclusion either :-I

Really good cold open though :v:


So here's why I think Gabby being so hopped up (see it's a Judy Hopps joke shut up) worked fine: it's to throw us off the scent of her being self-aware. The whole episode is about the assumption that she's a crazy fragile freakazoid who, if this is what she's like when she's excited-good, imagine what she (a dangerous griffon type! :racis: ) would be like if we actually failed her!

So when it turns out that she was actually being the more mature party, recognizing that the CMCs were the ones whose feelings needed to be protected rather than her own, that's what the strength of the story's twist comes from. It's the same thing as the Steven Universe episode "The Test": the subject of the patronizing a) realizes they're being patronized, and b) reacts not by getting mad, but by recognizing that the patronizers are doing it from a place of caring and by giving them what feels like satisfaction in return.

This differs from The Test in that Gabby actually fails to keep her table-turning a secret and the CMCs find out, but that's interesting too, and it's nice to see that the one thing Gabby isn't good at—apparently—is lying. (Well, faking it, in her words.) And that's a great way for her to deconstruct her own character. Which I think is one of the best new characters they've invented for this show in years.


Anyway, aside from the cold open, my vote for high point of the episode was Twilight rushing out into the hallway yelling SPIIIIKE GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED :twonk:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:32 pm

Callback to Twilight Time:

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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:35 pm


The railings have little wooden apples on them :ponydrugs:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:57 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Callback to Twilight Time:

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:3:


So, Twilight, the Princess of Friendship, has just let that poor pony wallow in misery for two years... :unenthused:

:delight: Gabby, you're the new Princess of Friendship!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:00 pm

Twilight was burgin too hard to even notice him back then. Clearly, Gabby's special talent is the ability to watch her waistline.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:11 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Anyway, aside from the cold open, my vote for high point of the episode was Twilight rushing out into the hallway yelling SPIIIIKE GUESS WHAT JUST HAPPENED :twonk:


Oh yeah, absolutely. Twilight was such a dork in this, it was great :-P
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:56 pm

Adelor Lyon wrote:Remember back when a scene like this would've been row upon row of duplicate pony?

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Oh my gosh! They are undeplicating! Did Pinkie get into the reserve mirror pool again!?
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Headless Horse wrote:Callback to Twilight Time:

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Oh my gosh, I remember taking that screen shot and posting it on 4chan a while ago! I don't know if that one was the one I took, but he wasn't actually sad in that scene. He was just happily eating when I paused the video with his eyes shut and made him look incredibly sad and I took a screen shot of it and shared it.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:42 am

I thought we discussed you not beating yourself up Snow. Be like Gabby!

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Postby Zebran (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:35 pm

The episode was good-OK. Gabby was a touch overwhelming and overdone.

Somehow when I saw the skull and bones cutie mark on that filly that was digging the hole, I immediately deduced it had something to do with digging up bones like in paleontology or archaeology :pinkieshrug:
If it had any red droplets there, then I'd be worried :v:

For some reason, I found it hard to really immerse in this episode.
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:14 pm

So, uh, nobody's made this joke yet? Guess I'll be the first
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 12:12 am


Gross, she's a lefty, episode ruined.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:51 am

Aramek wrote:Gross, she's a lefty, episode ruined.

Yeah baseball never had any good lefty hitters. Ted Williams, Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Barry Bonds, Lou Gehrig, etc.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:04 am

As a lefty, I like seeing other lefties in media. :3:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:19 am

Fucking SJWs pushing their leftie propaganda on us.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:27 am

Durandal wrote:So, uh, nobody's made this joke yet? Guess I'll be the first
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I appreciate this :help:
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:27 am

I liked Gabby. She kinda reminds me of Star Butterfly. I'm fine with her being a Mary Sue character. I mean she is a secondary characters that will mostly likely only get cameo appearances in the future and if we get super lucky another episode again. She wasn't a personality counter to any establish characters. Her existence doesn't change the dynamic of the show. I think Marry Sue characters are best suited for these small rolls. She is just the polar opposite of Maud is all.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:23 am

Aramek wrote:Gross, she's a lefty, episode ruined.

She isn't even, she's just that good. :smuggriffon:
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Postby Skipper (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:47 am

Aramek wrote:Gross, she's a lefty, episode ruined.

Left-handed people actually have more efficiently wired brains than yucky righties like us.

Cute episode, by the way. I liked Gabby.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:05 pm

She could be a switch-hitter
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:11 pm

Octavia wrote:She could be a switch-hitter


She is good at absolutely everything
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:23 pm

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She is good at absolutely everything

Except for knowing what is and isn't biologically possible for a griffon, particularly when it comes to flanks that are blank.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:49 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:what is and isn't biologically possible for a griffon

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Don't discount the fantasy part of a fantasy universe. We've seen a lot of situations where characters can do some cool stuff just because of the magic the writers come up with on the spot, and while it might be impossible for a non-Pony to get a cutie mark (believe me, I'd prefer it to be this way: partially because Ponies the best and because it keeps some consistency to the fantasy universe's rules), don't discount really extenuating circumstances making such a thing possible, especially if the writers step outside of what we've seen as "the rules" and do their own thing.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:11 am

It might be a bit too late to have something that big happen, though. Like, I rewatched MMC fairly recently, and I remember thinking it felt a bit odd that no one seemed to think it was unusual that Twilight suddenly grew wings. Maybe the show could've rolled with that, could've had it such that it was uncommon but certainly not almost unheard of for ponies to change races or other physical characteristics due to a magical effect like that, but that concept was never followed through upon. To do something like that in this episode, this late in the game, would likely have felt jarring instead of interesting.

I feel like it could've undermined the episode's moral as well. As I saw it, the moral was that even if you literally can't get a stamp on your butt that represents who you are and what you're good at, you can still find validation within yourself and from others who care about you.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:53 am

It didn't happen, but we got to see what Twilight's reaction would be, and in my book that's good enough. :excite:
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:39 am

Loved this one a lot. It definitely isn't perfect, in my view, but I feel like this is finally the episode I was waiting for during the second half of the Season. It pretty much failed at everything "The Times, They Are A Changeling" didn't succeed at, because this episode actually understood pacing!

My only gripes would be that Gabby isn't an amazing character yet (although I want to see more of her), and that the dialogue was pretty expositional at points. There was the amazing, emotional Scootaloo moment (with her wings), but then there was the straight-forward nature of the ending and the fact that Apple Bloom makes like five apple puns, if for no other reason than the fact that she is Apple Bloom. I am nitpicking a bit, but better dialogue would have made some of the emotional moments stronger.

Otherwise, both fun, yet heartwarming. Pretty much what I want out of an MLP episode, and my second favorite of the entire Season thus far. :-P
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