Re: S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom


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Fizzbuzz wrote:Sudden thought: If Tirek comes to Ponyville, what happens if he attacks Sweetie Belle? She's old enough to do magic but still doesn't have her cutie mark.
Fizzbuzz wrote:It isn't that bad of an idea. They're acknowledging that Twilight is better at magic than any of the rest of them, so if they let her wield all their power combined, she'd be most effective with it. It's also an acknowledgment of Tirek's ridiculously huge power, that Celestia and the others believe they'd be defeated if they went up against Tirek alone.
Wayoshi wrote:What is Dal saying that's unexpected at all, Doctor? I thought you were ragging about kidnapped princesses
The Ghost Of Ember wrote:Dumbledore, we'll, no spoilers right? Or has that expired?
Teru wrote:...Scion... holy crap, you are a freaking god...
Aramek wrote:If the princesses solve every problem instead of the main character we won't have a narrative.
Celestia is marginalized because she has to be. Because she's not the main character, Purple Smart is.
The Ghost Of Ember wrote:Obi-wan got cut down, early in the story, just to let the hero escape.
Gandalf got killed, again early in the story, to let the hero escape and continue the journey. He got revived, but even then he was put in a position in which he could no longer help the protagonist directly
Dumbledore, well, no spoilers right? Or has that expired?
Old mentor characters solving the problems usually is skirted in this way simply because it usually feels cheap for them to contribute too much. For good examples of when other characters go and just solve problems for the protagonist character and why this is bad, see Equestria Girls. Brad saves Twilight, and Pinkie just handwaves Twilight being a magical horse. Particularly in Pinkie's case it might make sense, Pinkie's have been established as being almost seer-like in their ability to know things they shouldn't, but it's still bad writing and still just deflates all the tension in the scene in a poor way.
The closest we could get to the other princesses getting involved is a team up like Twilight with Cadence in Three's Company.
That's the name for whenScuderia Ferrarity wrote: Hyperblurple
The Doctor wrote:But the difference is that they do something. Obiwon helps Luke and the others escape. And helps even after death. Gandalf was always working to assist both Frodo and Aragorn. Dumbledore worked to aid Harry wherever he could. They didn't just sit back and have the hero do everything.
Aramek wrote:That's the name for whengoes SSJ in the finale. Then she's Hyperblurple.
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Also, how is Tirek pronounced? Is it TEER-eck? or TIE-wreck?
If it is the latter, I'll be hearing it a lot in the episode, because my first name may or may not be Ty. And so I *hear* it louder than I should.
The main difference is the whole God Empress of Ponykind thing. She's way, way more powerful than Obiwan or Gandalf or Dumbledore were in their setting. Her "helping" would be to turn the blood of the enemies into steam and their bones into talc.
It is akin to wondering why Q didn't join the Enterprise as a permanent crew member with his reality powers. Because he could snap and end every episode. It is why they don't have Discord do that either. (But I'm excited as fuck to see how they do him in the finale!)
shotgunbadger wrote:I legit don't understand why people want the god level mentors to do everything easily.
DerFurShur wrote:And yeah I'm excited for this one, even without the billboards, the full-page ads in the New York Times, the marathons hosted by real people interacting awkwardly with vectors, etc. etc.
Aramek wrote:Also, how is Tirek pronounced? Is it TEER-eck? or TIE-wreck?
Fizzbuzz wrote:What Celestia did there was just another nudge in the right direction. She set things off and Twilight actually executed them. Celestia was the one who decided to send Twilight to Ponyville instead of directly intervening in the return of Nightmare Moon, and Celestia was also the one who decided to send Twilight to save the Crystal Empire instead of directly stopping King Sombra herself.
Scuderia Ferrarity wrote:There's more animation out of Celestia here than all of season four.
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