S05E18: Crusaders of the Lost Mark

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Re: S05E18: Crusaders of the Lost Mark

Postby Bremen (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:56 pm

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They could really do with losing those outlines, that would at least make them look more normal, they stand out like a sore thumb as is. They're literally the only cutie marks in Equestria that have it.


I thought this was the case at first, but it turned out I was wrong.

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So no. It's unusual, but there are others.
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:42 pm

I'm kind of on the "unpleasant" end of the cutie mark opinion spectrum, but I just realized it's not because they're primarily busy or poorly colored (though I do say they are to a degree). It's because they look too small; that's what bugs me the most about them.

Also, everybody's overlooking the most important factt about this episode: the Cake twins are potty-trained! :party:

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A fancy meet-and-greet in Ponyville? The place is really gentrifying now that there's a castle.


Not three seconds later, we see Bon Bon hanging out with Lyra. :lol:
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Postby acidtest (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:18 pm

I actually have to wonder though...did Lauren already have plans for what the cutie marks would be, and would that have been put in the pitch bible or anything else? I have a hard time imagining she didn't have some idea, or that the matter wouldn't have come up in conversation at all when she left the show. Certainly the colour schemes of the official ones are too amateur to be her work, but maybe the inner symbols she had something to do with?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:38 pm

Honestly, the talents and interests of the CMC have shifted somewhat between S1 and now. For example, The Show Stoppers suggested that Apple Bloom knew a fair bit about art, but we've hardly seen her doing anything art-related since then. As such, even if Lauren Faust had left some ideas in the show bible, I doubt they'd be especially relevant now.
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Postby BurningBright (?) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:11 pm

First to get it out of the way; it's not my favorite big plot episode, but I did enjoy it. I was definitely not expecting the CMCs to actually get their cutie marks this episode, and kind of figured it would either happen during the show's final season or never. Also, Diamond Tiara got some great character development and it was really interesting to see how Spoiled Rich basically warped her kid's personality. For the show's younger viewers, I think it carries a great message; maybe the bully is a bully because s/he has a bad home life.

However, the bad:

This episode definitely seemed to suffer from MMC syndrome, like it would have been a great 2-parter in order to give the third act some more time to breathe.

Also I agree that the Cutie Marks are really ugly and clashy. They make perfect sense, and I like the idea of a design within a design. Also, the shield's stripes do coincide with each CMC's manes. It was a clever idea. However, since the design is still essentially a tiny tattoo on the ass of characters that are already smaller than the average ponies, it just looks really bad from a distance. Less like a Cutie Mark and more like an unfortunate birthmark.

I kind of hope the animators either lighten up the shield designs a bit to make the inner designs more obvious and less busy (especially on poor Sweetie Belle) or make the Cutie Marks bigger in future CMC appearances so they are more obvious and look less like a muddy purple shield from a distance.

What I take away from this epsiode overall is, like MMC, it's more the premise that excites me rather than the episode itself. It'll be nice to see the CMC falling into their roles helping others, and I imagine their character development can really grow now since they aren't stuck in and endless cutie mark hunt. Plus, something tells me that the three all grown up would make an excellent spinoff for the next generation of pony shows. I can't help but wonder if one long-term purpose of this was planting the seeds for that possibility.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:54 am


Filthy Rich has an anime side-mouth going on there. Has that ever happened before in the show?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:06 am

I want to say I think I've seen it a few times in the past, particularly in S1, but I can't recall specific examples right now.

Really, though, it seems like they'd kind of been messing with facial animation in general lately (see also: my comment about Sweetie Belle's mouth in that one shot, earlier).
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Postby Seven Seas (?) » Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:40 am

One of the first side-mouths, from Dragonshy: :rariwhat:
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Postby Pocket (?) » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:31 pm

Does it count as a sidemouth if it's a three-quarter view?

It reminds me less of anime and more of Flash cartoons, of the Internet variety.
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Postby BartonFink (?) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:38 am

Preemptive warning of nitpickery:

I'll cast my lot with the "somewhat disappointed" crew. The episode itself was fine and it was really neat to see Diamond Tiara get an episode.

But after several seasons of fleshing out the CMC as their own people (er, horses), and for a storyline that had initial charm in precisely being kind of believably childlike/regular, it feels like such a copout. Yes, friendship; yes, they're supposed to be together; yes, the show has done this kind of destiny before. But it left me feeling cold, which made some of the elements of AJ/Rarity showing up not have the weight they otherwise would have.


If they had tucked this ending onto the end of the plot of, say, "The Cutie Pox", I don't think it would've been any different. After fleshing out these characters for several years, just strikes me as disappointing.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:26 am

Just like MMC, there's no time really right now to see how these marks affect them as characters. There is one upcoming S5 ep that might address this some, otherwise I look forward to S6 perhaps reestablishing them as unique characters still
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:13 am

Yeah, to be honest I wouldn't be surprised if they had an episode where they sorta have to remind themselves they still have their own talents and they're not just CMCs. Which, if done right, would do a lot to ease people's concerns with this change.

Personally I'm okay with it as it is, I'm sure they'll handle it right. Though it doesn't change the fact that those cutie marks are ugly as sin :fluttersmith:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:58 am

Davyinatoga wrote:I'm kind of on the "unpleasant" end of the cutie mark opinion spectrum, but I just realized it's not because they're primarily busy or poorly colored (though I do say they are to a degree). It's because they look too small; that's what bugs me the most about them.

Also, everybody's overlooking the most important factt about this episode: the Cake twins are potty-trained! :party:



Not three seconds later, we see Bon Bon hanging out with Lyra. :lol:



That changeling from Slice of Life has to make a living, after all.
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Postby Mordja (?) » Sat Oct 24, 2015 11:55 pm

Belated episode report: Ho-lee shiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!

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Postby Jelly (?) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 12:39 am

I always wondered if anything could bring me out of lurking, but here we are! This post is gigantic (~2000 words), so feel free to tl;dr it, but if you want to read, let's roll!



To me the greatest thing about Crusaders of the Lost Mark is the unspoken undercurrent that almost every song has a double meaning--and, more than that, the hidden meaning is either equally important or more important than the surface meaning.

Let's start with the way that Diamond Tiara and the CMCs think they're singing about themselves, but are actually singing just as much about each other. Without a single explicit line of dialogue to this effect, this isn't merely a Diamond Tiara redemption episode and CMC cutie mark episode, but also a recap episode where Diamond Tiara is re-enacting or reminding us of almost every key moment of the CMCs' development. You see, Diamond Tiara and the Cutie Mark Crusaders have parallel story arcs. Bear with me while I explain!

Personally, I've always loved Diamond Tiara because I watch the show for entertainment without trying to relate or project myself into situations or whatever else people do when watching entertainment. Last season I had her as my 12th favorite character and 11th favorite pony (Discord was up there), beating out half the mane six and Princess Celestia, among others. But I know that's unusual because I watch several blind commentators. I've watched Diamond Tiara get all the worst verbal abuse and then I've watched these commentators immediately turn around on her for this episode. On a surface level, they might say it's sudden and they might even feel conflicted. But what's going on here subconsciously?

As nice as the metaphors at the beginning of The Pony I Want To Be are, let's think about the chorus:

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Would you believe that I've always wished I could be somepony else
Yet I can't see what I need to do to be the pony I want to be


The answer is yes, we would believe that she's always wished she could be somepony else. But why do we believe it so quickly? Because (here's the bombshell) for five seasons the Cutie Mark Crusaders have wished they could be somepony else! They, too, can't see what they need to do to be the ponies they want to be. Obviously part of that is chasing after every talent in the world to try and figure out who they are, but I'm also talking about moments like this:

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Scootaloo: But flying's what pegasus ponies are supposed to do! You flew when you carried the flag in the games!
Rainbow Dash: But that was me! You're you!


And I'm talking about moments like this:

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Sweetie Belle: I decided to make a grand entrance. I made myself all beautiful, just like my big sister.


While there are still viewers who consider this episode rushed (and I'm not one of them), I've noticed that there aren't nearly as many as there were for Magical Mystery Cure. I really believe that's because Diamond Tiara's introspection is the same general flavor of introspection that the CMCs have been going through. The episode didn't need much time to establish her inner journey because we've already been following something similar for five seasons!

How about the chase song? I'll talk about two sequences from it, but let's start with this one...

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We know you want friends who admire you
You want to be the star with all the power too


Has Diamond Tiara been the only one to fall into that trap before? Nope!

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:ohboy: We could be the big shots around here!
[cut to the CMCs fantasizing about showing off and being stars]


No wonder they so easily sympathize with her: they've been there before with all the events of Twilight Time--and even earlier in Ponyville Confidential, for that matter! Remember, while Diamond Tiara pushed them to keep going with the gossip column, they kicked off the idea themselves.

Now let's look at an even more interesting aspect to the chase song...

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Stop! This is not the answer
Wait! And it's plainly seen
Listen! You can redeem yourself, but by helping others, not by being mean


Other than the very last part about being mean (though in One Bad Apple they even had their brief stint of carefully-plotted revenge), what words have been aimed at the CMCs more often than these?

"Stop! This is not the answer" - How many "wrong" answers have the CMCs come up with? Although they weren't morally wrong, they've explored every incorrect avenue to get their cutie marks--as we just saw at the beginning of the episode.

"Wait! And it's plainly seen" - Who else has plainly seen that the CMCs were pursuing the wrong ideas? Twilight and Rainbow Dash, probably among others I'm forgetting:

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"Listen! You can redeem yourself, but by helping others..." - What did the CMCs need to do to get their cutie marks? They needed to help others! They're essentially singing to themselves with this part and again in this later bit:

You can stop right now and try another start
Finally free yourself from the dark
And see the light
And see the light of your cutie mark


It's easy to get caught up in all the prior characterization that has painted the CMCs as "good" and Diamond Tiara as "evil," but an overlooked aspect of their development is that both have been operating from self-centered perspectives (albeit with different motives).

Diamond Tiara can only come to understand her cutie mark when she stops focusing on what it does for her and what she can do for others; the CMCs can only earn their cutie marks in the first place when they stop focusing on themselves and look toward what they can do for others. They both had to "stop right now and try another start" to see the light of their cutie marks.

This is what I'm talking about when I say they've been on parallel paths!

Now... How about this song toward the end?

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There's so much I can do to help everypony else
I see the light that shines in me
And now I can be my better self

I can free the past
'Cause now the future's bright for me
My cutie mark has set me free


What will the CMCs do from now on? Help everypony else. On first watch the joy is that Diamond Tiara has turned her life around, but on rewatch, when you know the end of the episode, you can feel this song building excitement toward the same scenario that's moments away for the CMCs themselves! It's a celebration for both groups of characters.

Mind blown yet?

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I could honestly go on about this episode, but I'll end with a couple more briefly:

You don't even know me at all
Don't understand the meaning of my fall
What my family would think if I ever
Fail at anything


Remember Apple Bloom having a nightmare about what her family would think if she got a cutie mark without an apple in it? Remember Sweetie Belle trying so desperately to make Rarity happy in Sisterhooves Social? Far from not knowing Diamond Tiara at all, the CMCs practically are her. (Like I said, it's secretly a recap episode!)

Next up:

I'm a diamond – that means you'll never break
No matter what be the cost of the path I take
Whatever I have to do to win in the end


Diamond Tiara sings about never breaking and the CMCs sang earlier about never giving in, which are basically the same line, and they've even done it with similar perspectives. Again... parallel paths.

And lastly, to end with a bang:

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It's time for a new leader
It's time to make a change

We're here to fight for what we believe
(Vote for Pip!)
It's finally time we beat her
And play a better game


By the end of this episode, we have no idea if Pip is able to do anything or if he'll be a meaningless figurehead like Mayor Mare who lets his specialized team of superstars handle everything. After all, he couldn't have been elected without the CMCs and he couldn't have fulfilled his promise without Diamond Tiara, the very same pony he kicked out of power.

So who's really going to "make a change" by the end of the episode? Diamond Tiara and the CMCs.
Who's really going to "play a better game" by the end of the episode? Diamond Tiara and the CMCs.
Who's really going to be a "new leader" by the end of the episode? Diamond Tiara and the CMCs.

While this entire song is about Pip, it's meant for Diamond Tiara and the Cutie Mark Crusaders; all the talk of change and new leaders sets the emotional undertone and prepares us for all the vastly more important events at the end of the episode. The song hypes us up, but the subtle and key followup is that Pip doesn't do anything in this episode because, by design, he shouldn't. The excitement might disappear if we saw him accomplishing things, so we immediately move to Diamond Tiara for a shift of tone and focus. This leaves the hype about new leaders and change lingering subconsciously so we can circle back to it at the end when it's properly redirected to the CMCs and Diamond Tiara.





All of this combines to make up the reason why Crusaders of the Lost Mark is my new favorite slice of life episode in the series--and my favorite action episode!
Yes, I said action episode.
And yes, I know Twilight's Kingdom Part 2 exists!

Hey, in theory I'd prefer for MLP to be an adventure series instead of a slice of life series, which I know most fans disagree with, but in practice the adventure episodes are rarely written with significance.

Sure, most people love the big epic laser battle or even Pinkie Pie shooting changelings with the party cannon, myself included. It's cute and fanservice-y. At the end of the day, though, those scenes aren't about anything. They're fun but isolated, with no build from what came before them and no impact on what's to come after them.

So this...

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...is ultimately far more interesting even as action than this:

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For all its simplicity, this chase scene of the CMCs pursuing Diamond Tiara through Ponyville has gravitas. And for all its flash and novelty, Twilight's battle is ultimately a blurb of sound and fury signifying nothing.

Why are Twilight and Tirek battling? Because villain evil, villain smash. But who cares? Where's the heart? (I'm speaking comparatively! I do still give Twilight's Kingdom an A- and I really like it in a vacuum, but it's nothing compared to Crusaders of the Lost Mark.)

Crusaders is action with a purpose, where even if the "action" is simple running, it's about characters running toward and running away from their destinies. It's about a clash of ideologies. It's about determination, sympathy, shades of gray, and understanding one another.

It's about characters who have real roles to play. Because the stakes aren't physical life and death, they're not forced into their actions; the stakes are the vastly more interesting moral life and death, where the characters' choices and agency reveal them for who they are and build toward a satisfying and natural conclusion.





If you read all that babble, thanks for sticking with me! :party:


I hope you all loved Crusaders the first time and see all its brilliance on every rewatch. The only "negative" thing I can say is that there's no way the writers can top this for me unless the endgame is the CMCs surpassing the mane six. I don't think they'll go with that plan, but that's the endgame I've wanted ever since Flight to the Finish, then even more after Twilight Time, and especially more now.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:26 pm

You deserve a reward for that post. How about a gang tag? Tell me your favorite horse and I will make it so.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:42 pm

Jelly wrote:Personally, I've always loved Diamond Tiara because I watch the show for entertainment without trying to relate or project myself into situations or whatever else people do when watching entertainment. Last season I had her as my 12th favorite character and 11th favorite pony (Discord was up there), beating out half the mane six and Princess Celestia, among others. But I know that's unusual because I watch several blind commentators. I've watched Diamond Tiara get all the worst verbal abuse and then I've watched these commentators immediately turn around on her for this episode.


This is always interesting to see in action, because some people experience a story as a constructed piece of media and others like it's something that's actually happening on an emotional level. When there's a villain, the former might think "what a great character" while the latter thinks "what a horrible person."

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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:51 pm

Agreed, very nice in-depth commentary!

One thing I do kinda take issue with, though, is this:

Jelly wrote:All of this combines to make up the reason why Crusaders of the Lost Mark is my new favorite slice of life episode in the series--and my favorite action episode!
Yes, I said action episode.
And yes, I know Twilight's Kingdom Part 2 exists!

Hey, in theory I'd prefer for MLP to be an adventure series instead of a slice of life series, which I know most fans disagree with, but in practice the adventure episodes are rarely written with significance.

Sure, most people love the big epic laser battle or even Pinkie Pie shooting changelings with the party cannon, myself included. It's cute and fanservice-y. At the end of the day, though, those scenes aren't about anything. They're fun but isolated, with no build from what came before them and no impact on what's to come after them.

So this...

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...is ultimately far more interesting even as action than this:

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For all its simplicity, this chase scene of the CMCs pursuing Diamond Tiara through Ponyville has gravitas. And for all its flash and novelty, Twilight's battle is ultimately a blurb of sound and fury signifying nothing.

Why are Twilight and Tirek battling? Because villain evil, villain smash. But who cares? Where's the heart? (I'm speaking comparatively! I do still give Twilight's Kingdom an A- and I really like it in a vacuum, but it's nothing compared to Crusaders of the Lost Mark.)

Crusaders is action with a purpose, where even if the "action" is simple running, it's about characters running toward and running away from their destinies. It's about a clash of ideologies. It's about determination, sympathy, shades of gray, and understanding one another.

It's about characters who have real roles to play. Because the stakes aren't physical life and death, they're not forced into their actions; the stakes are the vastly more interesting moral life and death, where the characters' choices and agency reveal them for who they are and build toward a satisfying and natural conclusion.


I get what you're saying, but I think you may be overreaching your aim a bit here. The "action" in this scene is really just symbolic, isn't it? They're running, but they don't even really have to be, do they? At its heart the scene is just a conversation. They could be having it over tea. The action doesn't really contribute to its progression or its outcome. In another show or movie, a confrontation of wills and conflicting emotions can take place over a mahogany desk (the scene in The Martian where the director of NASA tells the Mars missions head that despite his success he'll have to resign comes immediately to mind, only because it's the topmost thing in my mind) as readily as it can happen during a physical race toward a finish line.

Comparing this "action" scene to the explosive climax of Twilight's Kingdom isn't really fair to either one. TK's Tirek battle is pure action for its own sake, presented as literally as possible on-screen; and while of course that leaves us a bit hollow who watch this show for its emotional gravitas, at least it's not kidding itself about what it's doing. It's putting life-and-death stakes on the table, and there are real lasting consequences (e.g. the tree) that can only have come about through action-related events. But the climax of CotLM is just an argument, a plea and an appeal to DT's better nature; and it all takes place through song to boot, which is a further factor in reducing how literally it is meant to be taken in terms of the action presented (I mean, I'm sure none of us imagine that the scene actually went down with the three CMCs running backwards and singing extemporaneous lyrics that happen to rhyme perfectly and fit in with ambient music that just sort of shows up right on time).
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:04 am

I think the reason I didn't feel that scene had any weight was because it was a song. I think this episode being a musical might have been a big contributor to why I didn't like it. The songs took me out of the story. Compound that with that it was a story I didn't find all that compelling in the first place. Mostly due to the characters involved in the story.

Pip running for class president was like a kindergartner running for student council president in a K to 6th grade school. The CMC were stripped of all individuality for the entire episode and acted as one the whole time. So then you take that and advance the story through song, and then make all of the songs super generic and bland, and the entire thing just falls flat. Then giving the CMC their cutie marks at the end all at the same time, with god awful and homogeneous designs is just mind bogglingly bad.

I guess I liked some of the facial expressions that Diamond Tiara made. But I'm not being hyperbolic in the slightest when I say that I think this is the worst episode of MLP FIM they've ever made. I'm honestly astounded by the positive reception.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:37 am

PictishBeast wrote:This is always interesting to see in action, because some people experience a story as a constructed piece of media and others like it's something that's actually happening on an emotional level. When there's a villain, the former might think "what a great character" while the latter thinks "what a horrible person."

I may still be reeling from the shock of watching a show where a character so vile he made me angry at the writers for his existence became quite possibly the most fascinating character in the whole series in the space of about five minutes so yeah I feel this.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:56 pm

Andew Ryan's Fursona wrote:I may still be reeling from the shock of watching a show where a character so vile he made me angry at the writers for his existence became quite possibly the most fascinating character in the whole series in the space of about five minutes so yeah I feel this.


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Postby Jill (?) » Sun Nov 01, 2015 4:31 am

  • Here we go. If the cold open has a song about cutie marks then I'm sure there'll be a ton.
  • What's wrong bab-- er, pipsqueak?
  • A vote for Diamond Tiara is a vote for... I can't think of anything clever. It just makes you a dumbass.
  • Of course her only leverage is that she's blackmailing and bribing everyone.
  • Get owned.
  • No cutie marks so I guess you get owned too.
  • One vote. fucking_owned
  • This must be where her cartoonishly bad parent is supposed to make me feel bad for her.
  • And with that song it's working. And I hate it.
  • Well she had a friend that was not only willing to help her figure it out, but spell it out for her. But, y'know.
  • "That's a weird question." Oh my god that face.
  • What is this, a sermon?
  • So DT has a talent for persuasion that borders on being a superpower. Good thing she's just been cleansed of evil!
  • A talent for bringing out the best in others actually makes me pretty damn jealous. I seem to have the opposite effect on people.
  • "The ultimate reward is our cutie marks." have you morons learned nothing
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:02 am

I kinda disliked this one.

Silver Spoon telling Diamond Tiara off: Great, very believable
DT's mom: Too cliche
DT's redemption: Too quick, unbelievable
CMC getting their marks: Great
CMC's marks: Ugly, too small
CMC lesson learned: Great

I don't think the DT redemption should have fully happened like this. The 180 just felt like the stock garbage girls' show plot resolutions that this show was designed to step away from. They could have planted the seeds of reform without this sudden flip, and it would bring a more fluid transition over a few later episodes, even if it wasn't the main plot of them.

(My preference would be if both of DT's parents were decent, and DT was just a brat who needed to grow up and realize some things about herself & her family.)

They've done this insta-flip thing too often with characters, and it's running thin. While it is more forgivable when there's some earth-shattering, magically overwhelming forces at hand when everything comes to a head, this is literally just playground politics. Plus, they're running out of long-standing villains.

Apple Bloom's cutie mark should have had some sort of handiwork, not just another bloomin' apple.*

But in the end, the CMC realizing that their pining over their cutie marks was just a distraction, and that's exactly the right lesson to learn. Made in Manehattan did the same sort of thing, where even if the episode itself was kind of clunky, they pull out an excellent moral that closes it off very well.

The nostalgia carpet bombing at the end was very well done.

Overall, a momentous ep for the CMC, but not a good DT ep, IMO.




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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:15 am

Homeswirl wrote:I don't think the DT redemption should have fully happened like this. The 180 just felt like the stock garbage girls' show plot resolutions that this show was designed to step away from. They could have planted the seeds of reform without this sudden flip, and it would bring a more fluid transition over a few later episodes, even if it wasn't the main plot of them.


Eh, that depends on how they handle her next time she shows up. Of course she's gonna try and be super nice here, that doesn't necessarily mean she's gonna do a complete 180 right away. See: Discord.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:38 am

Oh, and you know what else? I think if they were going to commit to the "basically the Cutie Mark Crusaders logo but with slight variations", the symbols inside should have been something to do with what they each bring to the table as far as helping others discover and/or understand their talents.

Except that we don't know what that is yet. And neither do they. Which would have been a good excuse to hold off on them getting their marks a little while longer: While they know what they're good at as a unit, they still haven't really figured out their own individual talents and how they play into that, if that is to be their defining characteristic from now on.

But instead we got "badge that vaguely implies they're involved with something together... oh and some really obvious generic symbol inside it so they're not all exactly the same".
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:17 am

Headless Horse wrote:
Whoosawhatnow?


The only character I can think of that possibly makes any sense to me here is Discord.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:47 am

Hint: I wasn't talking about this show.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:25 am

I figured. That doesn't help. :-P
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Postby W.T. Fits (?) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 8:45 pm

Heard about CMC got their Cutie Marks finally, tracked down episode to watch it.

'Twas good.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Aug 14, 2017 4:27 pm

About 30 seconds of Diamond Tiara singing in the last song was cut out, revealed at Bronycon this past weekend:

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