S04E23: Inspiration Manifestation

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Re: S04E23: Inspiration Manifestation

Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:14 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Twilight would not approve of Spike's book eating.


:-/ I did NOT raise a Bibliovore!

:yikes: But it was Rarity's Necromnomnomicon!

And we finally got to see the episode that was too close to the original MLP comic Nightmarity ideas, too.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:14 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I wonder if it was Corey Powell's idea to feature Owlowiscious here so much. She did also write JFS, after all, and he was actually fairly nice to Spike back then.

I was thinking that Meghan also wrote Owl's Well and there was an interesting mixing going on there, but that was actually Morrow. There goes that. :-I

Anyone else a bit creeped out by those puppets? :eep: Also, that particular job seems to be so much easier with unicorn magic... :spoiler:
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Postby Chaos Sonic (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:15 pm

TheNegaverser wrote:Amazing Rarity. Amazing Spike. Amazing Owlowicious. Amazing, heartwarming resolution. Amazing everything. Amazing episode.

Top-tier Season 4. Top-tier pony. We're done here.

You forgot amazing Twilight. :-/
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:16 pm

Fun episode, not quite as Fabulous as RTMH or Simple Ways, but still fun none the less.

Watching ponies go crazy is always fun!

Although feels weird to get an honesty ep from Spike instead of AJ.

In S2 he was the new RD, but now he's the new AJ! :gotcha:

And Twilight chewing him out at the end was priceless.

Edit: Spike & Rarity are gonna have stomach aches later from all that Ice Cream & Dark Magic.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:18 pm

Well, we got a setup lifted from Power Ponies, a resolution from Cutie Pox, and a moral from Green Isn't Your Color. On the other side of the ledger: Rarity going bananas for 22 minutes. And that's sufficient. :heehaw:

Puppeteer Pony was fantastic, Octavia is a professional who keeps performing wherever she finds herself, and we got a Vinyl Scratch cameo in the cold opening.

And don't worry about the book, next time Spike gets the hiccups it'll appear in Celestia's office.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:21 pm

I thought the puppets were some kind of slave ponies in a trance for a second. :twonk:

Nice W.C. Fields ref for the puppet master though. :v:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:22 pm

I'll reserve final judgement, until I've actually seen the whole thing (missed a segment to stream dropping + Justin.tv commercial), but early impressions would put this as a fine Rarity episode, and a great Spike one.

I really did not like the way Rarity went crazy in Simple Ways, but this kind of crazy Rarity is much inline with her character as I perceive it. They took the Radiance power and ran with it.

It was overall great to see Rarity and Spike confirmed for friends. As it should be.

Favorite gag so far: Oblivious Spike walking down crumbling stairs.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:27 pm

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Not emptyquotin' this. It had Blossomforth and Octavia, and almost enough Rarity. :vogue:


You have to dilute :vogue: or intake of pure Rarity can burn delicate parts of the upper lungs and nose.

Fizzbuzz wrote:The only gag that got old was Owlowiscious, and even then the episode stopped making the "who?" joke after the first act. I actually thought Rarity's act just got better and better and things went on.


What's doubly funny about this is this actually implies Owlowiscious really WAS saying "Who?" the entire time, seriously.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:29 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:I thought the puppets were some kind of slave ponies in a trance for a second. :twonk:


He manipulates things using his puppets which he manipulates with his horn. It's pretty brilliant.
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Postby Doctor Wheeze (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:29 pm

New headcanon: This is how the Crystal Empire got started :awesomedash:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:30 pm

But then, why was his cutie mark marionette strings if they don't use them for puppeteering?
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:37 pm

Those were some pretty sweet chariots, btw. Clearly aiming to travel in style.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:40 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:Octavia is a professional who keeps performing wherever she finds herself

When you think about it, that was the freakiest part of this episode. Did Rarity just make the mariachis disappear, replacing them with Octavia and the others? Or did she transform them outright? :wat:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:41 pm

You'd think AJ and Fluttershy would have thought of Rarity right away when the cart and birdhouse were transformed. They know her love of beauty and style, and AJ has seen Rarity do that kind of thing before (LBYS).
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:50 pm

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New smiley material?

For the brief bit of Twilight time, she got half of it looking almost as hilarious as Rarity did.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:05 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:You'd think AJ and Fluttershy would have thought of Rarity right away when the cart and birdhouse were transformed. They know her love of beauty and style, and AJ has seen Rarity do that kind of thing before (LBYS).

Of course, they're also used to Rarity giving things, not straight-up forcing things onto them. The fact that Rarity was doing this without shouting her name from the rooftops was perhaps her one bit of restraint in this episode.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:15 pm

WandereringPony wrote:Image

New smiley material?

For the brief bit of Twilight time, she got half of it looking almost as hilarious as Rarity did.


Twilight here reminds me of Lucy in the Peanuts comics for some reason. :-/
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Postby HuffyTheMagicDragon (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:27 pm

I went in expecting insane Rarity. Episode delivered. Rated :heehaw:/ :vogue:

Also Spike said "Something Awful" so I made this dumb goon joke:

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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:43 pm

I don't recall seeing her cutie mark before — in Sisterhooves Social, she was wearing pants (of all things :starity:)
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Raisin or chocolate chip? You be the judge. But there seems to be a running theme of three objects in the family.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:50 pm

Something other people pointed out: When Spike says "I'm scared", is that a Saved by the Bell reference?
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Postby Discord (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:52 pm

That was a really weird episode.

I'm pretty lukewarm on it. I suppose Spike was done well, but I don't care much for his character, so it was kind of :pinkieshrug: to me. Rarity's insanity was amusing, but I found myself less able to enjoy her character than usual because the line between what was her and what was the spell was pretty blurred.

I think my favourite part of the episode was actually Twilight coming in from princess duty (with other princesses!) all ticked off. I find the idea of a Princess Fix-It Brigade to be surprisingly awesome. They've been digging in Twilight's status in more as the season has gone on, which I suppose is fair to ease-in the transition.

Also, Pinkie was surprisingly good in very limited time. Her confusion at the party change was the best joke of the episode.

As for the rest though, unfortunately, narratives built around Spike just tend to bore me.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 4:59 pm

That reminds me, next week's episode also centers on Spike.

Two Spike episodes in a row :-I
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:00 pm

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:08 pm

There's nothing yet saying that dark magic isn't virtual cocaine...
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:10 pm

Davyinatoga wrote:Spike getting the last laugh on Twilight, of all characters. He's finally getting his due.

:-/ Laugh it up, lizard-breath. You're paying for this out of your allowance for the next three centuries.

Fizzbuzz wrote:When you think about it, that was the freakiest part of this episode. Did Rarity just make the mariachis disappear, replacing them with Octavia and the others? Or did she transform them outright? :wat:

Somewhere in Canterlot, a garden party just got much livelier.

Mr. Big wrote:Something other people pointed out: When Spike says "I'm scared", is that a Saved by the Bell reference?

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:13 pm

Ha, I can actually see Spike eating that suit. :v:
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Postby Venusy (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:18 pm

Fun episode, missing the emotional depth of Rarity episodes again, but very good for a Spike episode.

Moral about telling the truth and not enabling was very similar to Leap of Faith, which is surprising when they're so close together in production order; they've normally avoided that in the past, waiting a much longer time to repeat morals. The actual content of both episodes is very different, but still.
Fizzbuzz wrote:Anyway, I really liked the implicit lesson here; if you're creating things for other people, you should make what they want instead of insisting that what you want is always best. The episode really did that lesson well with the puppetmaster and the new cart vs. Rarity's gold cart.

Well, ideally it should be the two working in harmony. It's bad if the designer makes something that is just for them, but at the same time, as Suited For Success said, the client isn't always right. You don't want to be in a Clients From Hell situation like the one in this video.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:25 pm

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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:34 pm

Watched the whole bit now.

It was quite enjoyable. I like the symmetry between this episode and Secret of my Excess. Both Spike/Rarity episodes, both with a rampaging monster, but one destroying the town and the other excessively beautifying it. In Secret of my Excess, Rarity transformed Spike back to normal, and in this episode, he returned the favor.

I liked how even when transformed into a creature of dark magic, she still wanted to keep it a secret that she was behind the new creations (though she is obviously justified to asserting that everypony (except Fluttershy) enjoys surprises, judging from what we have seen of pony culture starting from S01E01) — part of her evidently still knew that this was not proper behavior of a lady. And even though she was on a magnificent power trip, the pinnacle of her wickedness was gaudiness.

While her creations got out of hoof quickly, the theater was clearly just what Snips' dad wanted—at that time, some of her normal faculties as a designer listening to feedback from her clients must still have been working.

The moral of the story: Eat huge amounts of ice cream, and everything will be just fine. Eventually.

The second take-away-message: Princesses suck at hiding dangerous books.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:38 pm

:excellent: "So let me see if I'm up to speed."
:-I :speakest: :allright:
:excellent: "A mystical spell turned Ponyville all -- ugh! -- neat, tidy and pretty, which I agree is a calamity of the highest urgency ..."
:excite: :speakest: :allright: "Yup."
:excellent: "And so then you three spent the day undoing it."
:twiright: :speakest: :allright: "Yup!"
:excellent: "And it never occurred to any of you to ask my help. Even though, you know, undoing neatness in Ponyville is my whole thing."
:excite: "We decided to make a Girls' Day of it!"
:allright: "Royal duties have kept us so busy, we felt it'd be good to have a bonding experience just for us princesses!"
:speakest: "Tails were braided, mimosas drank, and unsourced gossip regarding Celestia's workout regimen exchanged."
:excellent: "No, I understand and I'm sure it was delightful, it's just ... well, I have this very specific skill set is all. I'm feeling like a fifth hoof, to be honest. Isn't there any way I can contribute?"
:spoiler: "Well ....... I suppose you could mess up my hair, so I can guilt Spike into thinking I worked hard."
:excellent: "Meh, I'll take it." *snap*
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:40 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote: :spoiler: "Well ....... I suppose you could mess up my hair, so I can guilt Spike into thinking I worked hard."
:excellent: "Meh, I'll take it." *snap*

This is even funnier because Spike didn't feel that guilty.

:lol: - You don't look so good!

:-/ - I hate you so much, Spike.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:42 pm

The episode started off really clunky with exposition and repeating lines, but it got pretty good towards the end :heehaw:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:49 pm

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The voices are pretty much the just the Mane 6 and Spike (with Tabitha voicing Granny Smith).

The W.C. Fields Pony is named "Claude" and he was voiced by Jay Brazeau. Storyboards by Cory Toomey and John Young.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:52 pm

Beside the short Octavia cameo Vinyl was also there.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:57 pm

Wow, I didn't even notice that cameo. Neat.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:01 pm

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Jay Brazeau as "Claude"
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That one pony with the Orion cutie mark has a mini-me. Also, all the foals here remind me of Breezies.

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:gonkity: An entire glittering crystal town?! How dreadful!
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:05 pm

Huh...apparently the puppeteer pony was on the X Files as a doctor. Interesting.
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Postby happysad (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:08 pm

shotgunbadger wrote:I love that this is totally a drugs episode, but with magic and fabulous fashion.


Yes! It reminds me of when Willow got "addicted" to dark magic on Buffy. But in this case, there was a built-in intervention in the spell. Handy!
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:16 pm

:whyme: Wow, Twi, you don't look so good. I haven't seen you look this bad since...

:-/ Don't say it, Spike.

:spike101: *whispers quickly* Lessonzero.

:vogue: Don't be silly, Spike. This was Lesson 1.0.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:24 pm


I thought that was a sweet line. Tabitha really is the best, isn't she?
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