S07E23: Secrets and Pies

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S07E23: Secrets and Pies

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:16 pm

When Pinkie Pie thinks she sees Rainbow Dash throw away one of her pies, she suspects the worst - that Rainbow Dash secretly hates her pies; Pinkie Pie attempts to catch Rainbow Dash in her web of lies.


This thread is for discussion of the episode. This episode airs at 11:30 Eastern / 8:30 Pacific on Saturday, October 14!

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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:27 pm

This sounds like a total copy of Party of One.

And I am so on board with that.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:14 am

Yeah, I've not watched the leaks, and this phrase was even used in Party of One.

This is gonna own.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 2:14 am

Eh, Party of One was more about Pinkie Pie having some pretty bad fear of abandonment deep within her, whereas this seems more like an external conflict of her being upset about being lied to. Pretty much everything she did in Party of One was similarly in service to herself and her own negative feelings, so unless she is taking Rainbow Dash's actions as an honest indictment of her baking and not just a lie, I get the feeling that this won't quite be the same.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:34 am

I was never a big fan of Party of One, and thought they went too far with the joke and it just got sad and creepy.

I watched the leak and will just say that this episode was a joy to watch. :allears:
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Postby adiwan (?) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 6:03 am

I also watched the episode and I was thrilled from start to finish.
It's probably one of my favorites, for a reason that I don't want to spoil.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:34 pm

I'm intentionally avoiding the leaks so I'd appreciate not discussing the specifics until after it's aired in the USA on Saturday.

That said I like Pinkie/Dash eps and am excited for this one. :brash: :party:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:22 pm

Having seen the leak this is one of my favorite S7 episodes. It was gooooood.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:47 pm

Dexanth wrote:Having seen the leak this is one of my favorite S7 episodes. It was gooooood.


The only reason I disagree is cause S7 had so many top tier episodes :-P
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Postby Kronos (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:08 pm

Just watched what I guess is the 1080p leak on Youtube because I forgot pony doesn't actually air this early in the morning.

And yeah, this episode is NOT simply Party of One Part Deux. It's much, much better. Also a lot of background pony use which is always appreciated.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:30 pm

Gonna watch the fuck out of this when I get home.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:01 pm

Really good slice of life episode. Definitely felt like a good ol' season 1 ep. :-D
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:02 pm

Very funny episode. Pinkie was at her Pinkie-est with some of her best faces ever. :party:

I always like cameos, so it was nice to see the Wonderbolts.

The slow motion sequence was cool.

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Postby drunkill (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:03 pm

RD confirmed trash-tier pony!

Pinkie is confirmed Batmare and RD shoots lasers from her eyes, a solid episode.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:04 pm

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My personal highlight of the episode! But it's not the only one.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:06 pm

I... don't think I get this one. Was the lesson here that you should never lie just because you want someone to feel better? That seems a bit contradicted by how Pinkie Pie thought about her own reactions to Rainbow Dash "eating" all those pies. Is it more that you should be suspicious of your friends and always judge their true intentions, lest they might make a fool of you? The way it's presented here, it's like it's both trying to say that lying is always bad and that you should also always consider whether other people are lying. I suppose the latter is a useful lesson, but it's a surprisingly cynical and paranoia-inducing one to hear coming from FiM.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:13 pm

Image "So, eh, Rainbow. How many pies did it take for you to install that crazy in-wall pie tube?"

Image "Celestia only knows. A lot."

:applejargh: "What in the hay is it with you ponies and your hidden pie chutes and super secret trap door party planning lairs?"

Image "Ssssh! It's a secret!"

Image "It takes up the whole floor! Every customer that comes into Sugarcube Corner is stepping on it! How could the Cakes live..."

Image "And for it to be a secret. You Don't. Talk About It."

Image ".... the Cakes don't know about it do they?"

~~~~~~

Image "Honey? Did you notice how the shop floor isn't exactly flat and - stomp your hoof right here - doesn't it sound hollow?"

Image "Nope! Must be your imagination! Oh! Pumpkin cake is trying to eat her hoof again, let's all step out of here and have a look at that!"
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:22 pm

This episode was insane! I haven't laughed so hard in a while. Pinkie was in top form in this one.
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It is interesting that after 150+ episodes we can still learn new and entertaining quirks about the mane six. Dash has been a pie hater this entire time. Who knew?
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:28 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I... don't think I get this one. Was the lesson here that you should never lie just because you want someone to feel better? That seems a bit contradicted by how Pinkie Pie thought about her own reactions to Rainbow Dash "eating" all those pies. Is it more that you should be suspicious of your friends and always judge their true intentions, lest they might make a fool of you? The way it's presented here, it's like it's both trying to say that lying is always bad and that you should also always consider whether other people are lying. I suppose the latter is a useful lesson, but it's a surprisingly cynical and paranoia-inducing one to hear coming from FiM.


The lesson is it's always best to be honest and up-front first, but if your friend does lie to you, rather than immediately accuse them of the worst possible thing, think about their reasoning for lying. It's probably not intended to hurt your feelings.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:42 pm

This was a truly magnificent episode. One of my absolute favourite Pinkie Pie episodes, and definitely my top PP/RD episode.

Back in the day, people would joke that Applejack and Rainbow Dash had their elements switched, as Applejack would act loyally and Rainbow Dash would be brutally honest. This episode really stressed that Rainbow Dash is indeed the element of loyalty, and found a fine way to show it. Out of misguided loyalty to her friend, she kept up a charade of pie avoidance for years. It was an episode where everypony were acting with the best intentions, trying to do right by each other. Of course, Dash would find it easier to keep avoiding pies rather than facing up to Pinkie Pie, and obviously Pinkie Pie would be too oblivious to notice Dash' distaste.

Top tier pony, purely character driven all the way.

And, oh yes, Rainbow Dash hates washing.
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Postby Kronos (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:00 pm

Probably one of my top S7 episodes, just a fun slice of life with some truly hilarious gags (makes you question why Rainbow has a hidden pie chute leading between her bedroom and Tank's corner in the kitchen). But I think one of the funniest is the subtle hint toward's Soarin's infamous pie moment waaaaay back at the end of S1. When Pinkie says "could you identify these pies in a lineup?", notably Soarin is smiling while Spitfire and Fleetfoot aren't

Also, the entire sequence with AJ in the Party Cave is amazing.

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:party: "Screaming IS fun!"
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Postby LingEarth (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:20 pm

I wonder if anybody checked through all past episodes to make sure RD really hasn't ever eaten a pie. :v:

Anyway, I thought this was mostly great, though the lesson seemed weirdly delivered. Pinkie's imagine spot of evil pie-destroying Dash was amazing. Not as good as Party of One, IMO, but pretty good in its own right.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:44 pm

Wow, another great episode. Probably one of the best Pinkie episodes in the show.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:48 pm

Image I have a very detailed pie-ling system.

Josh Hamilton's been a pretty decent addition to this season.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:51 pm

Image There she is, Princess Celestia...there's the plier.

Image Plier?

Image Pie liar! You know what I meant!

:pcstare: All right, Pinkie Pie. Rainbow Dash, I was very distressed to hear you lied to Pinkie about the pies she baked for you.

Image To the moon with her! With nothing to eat but pies!

Image I don't think that's necessary.

Image Phew.

Image A year of working for Pinkie Pie will do.

Image What?

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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:55 pm

Aramek wrote:Gonna watch the fuck out of this when I get home.

This was hilarious and sweet.

Best part was her superpowered "wait for the blink" level speed.

God damn.

Also, Dash, the fuck? Pies are perhaps the perfect food, how can you hate all pies?!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:57 pm

Other than Apple Pie, I'm not a big fan either.

Cake is where it's at.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:15 pm

You continue to be the literal worst, I'm not even mad.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:27 pm

Pinkie Pie was John McCaffee today. Unsure if that's good or bad...
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:37 pm

I was unsure how this would turn out when I saw the synopsis, but man, the resulting episode was pretty gold.

One of the funniest, I think. Rainbow's "pie" was...something :v: She didn't even know if that was concrete or not :-I

Applejack going "could've told you that" from the moral made me laugh
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 11:36 pm

Aramek wrote:Also, Dash, the fuck? Pies are perhaps the perfect food, how can you hate all pies?!


She's a professional athlete and eating pies, especially in the quantity that Pinkie Pie produces them, would not make it easy to stay in shape. :2cool:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:44 am

The Doctor wrote:Other than Apple Pie, I'm not a big fan either.

Cake is where it's at.


They say pie are squared.

Pie are not squared. Pie are round.

Cake are squared.

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Also ^^ yeah—I kept expecting Rainbow Dash to simply say "Hey look Pinkie, I'm trying to keep in shape here, you know? I'm a god damned Wonderbolt. I'm on contract. Counting calories freaking sucks when you're having to keep downing pies out of politeness."
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:06 am

Considering how much Soarin loves pies, it was pretty cruel of Dash to throw it away rather than give it to him. I wonder what he did to piss her off. :ponder:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:24 am

I think what I like the most about this is the setup. When the plot goes into motion, you'd expect that there would be some misunderstanding, that Pinkie is wrong about Rainbow hating her pies, and there was just some misunderstanding going on.

Then it turns out, welp, Pinkie's right. Rainbow DOES hate pies and has been avoiding them for years. :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:48 am

Rewatching this and it's amazing the various ways Dash gets rid of pies. :lol:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:32 am

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Image "And so, in order to spare Pinkie Pie's feelings, I have decided to take one for the team and dunk myself in garbage."

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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:24 am

Octavia wrote:
She's a professional athlete and eating pies, especially in the quantity that Pinkie Pie produces them, would not make it easy to stay in shape. :2cool:


As a professional athlete, she would have a phenomenal burn rate. Heck, even Rarity can eat her own weight in ice cream without consequence. She just does not like pie.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:50 am

I did laugh at Cheerilee's implicit "ooh animals can't handle pony food, which is totally cakes and pies and not oats and grass."
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:03 pm

:gumout: “Life, a garment woven of secrets and/or lies. And friendship, the most threadbare fabric of them all. Yet for what purpose? For whose benefit is this web of deception? What demented creature lies at the center, awaiting the fruition of his schemes, smacking his toothless jaws, licking his eyeball with forked tongue in perverse anticipation? None can say. For none would believe.”
:gumout: *fart*

:-P “Culinary science is more art than science, a lot of po*urrrrp*onies don’t get that.”
• If Pinkie’s eating pure solid cocoa, she’s got a stronger constitution than I thought. :vomitpony:
• That Discovery Family Halloween logo makes me think there’s cobwebs in every scene.
• Theory: they’ve got Dash on a training diet and she can’t eat the pie.
• They’re not fooling around this time, it’s 5 minutes and Pinkie’s already at full crazy.
• Yes! Bulletin board with yarn!
:) Screaming is fun! :rant: But I’m not okay!
• We totally need more Evil Dash in our lives.
• Ha, these faces are the best.
:tinfoil: “You’ve got to believe me! There’s a pie on the wing of the plane!!”
:bwuh: “Are you okay? You seem to be staring more than usual.”
• The truth comes out and there’s still a whole act to go!
:3: “Note to self: Get laser eyes.”
• Ha, there’s no complex answer, she just doesn’t like pie. Now I wonder if there’s ever been a scene of her eating pie.
• AJ and Twilight grimacing in the background make this scene gold.
• Aw, once more with heartwarming.

SUMMARY: This one was so fun, it’s the type of episode a show does to cleanse the palate before a really heavy episode where someone gets killed off. So now I’m a little nervous for next week. Still, excellent job, writer Josh Hamilton.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:27 pm

That.was.great
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