S05E09: Slice of Life

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Re: S05E09: Slice of Life

Postby LardLad3545 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:46 am

Upon rewatch, a few things I noted-
  • The Dude (or I guess we should call him 'Lebowski Pony' now), his cutie mark is a rug. How did I not see that the first time around? So much love.
  • A quote from Sweetie Belle: "Maybe it's just a friendship problem and it'll be cleared up in half an hour or so..." :smirk: I see what you did there...
  • A quote from Lyra: "The benches we've sat on!"
  • Before he looses it, Cranky is still wearing his Dream Boat Special that Pinkie gave him.
  • I wonder if the Vinyl/Octavia duet was Daniel Ingram or Will Anderson...
  • Oh, and why do people dislike the Twilicane again? I still think it's kind of funny... :-I

You guys... this show. This show is pretty good. :awesomedash:
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Postby Ragnar (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:50 am

So I guess Gummy probably COULD make a cake, but he was frozen with existential despair the entire time Pinkie was gone.

Why was there a changeling, and not even in disguise? At least the other wedding invasion almost worked. I don't think Chrysalis is even trying anymore. :rainbert:
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:51 am

That was a good episode. :crack:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:52 am

LardLad3545 wrote:[*]I wonder if the Vinyl/Octavia duet was Daniel Ingram or Will Anderson...

It was Anderson with help from a dubstep specialist.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:55 am

Wayoshi wrote:It was Anderson with help from a dubstep specialist.


I'm putting "Dubstep Specialist" on my business cards now. Not because I am actually a dubstep specialist, but because the fact that that job title can actually exist is hilarious.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:55 am

The specialist was me, Dr Dubstep
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:03 am

Cross-quoting Scuds so this doesn't get lost in the (much more active :rainbert: ) PPPP thread:

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You tell me that isn't the best horse gag they've done in centuries, go on.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:17 am

Headless Horse wrote:Cross-quoting Scuds so this doesn't get lost in the (much more active :rainbert: ) PPPP thread:

and more complainey :cheese:
You tell me that isn't the best horse gag they've done in centuries, go on.


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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:18 am

I can't imagine that as anything but horse DDR. Then you get tickets to trade in for tiny salt licks of your own.

Horse games :allears:
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Postby Juniper Phoenix (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:18 am

I'm happy that we actually got an episode that gave the background characters the spotlight. Before seeing the previews, I didn't think the majority of the stuff that happened in just this one episode would ever happen.

I was convinced that Derpy Muffins would never speak again. I thought Steven Magnet would remain a one-and-done character. I was positive that Bon Bon's inconsistent voice would just be a running-gag with no explanation. The list goes on.

This episode was such a wild ride. My friends and I lost our collective shit just about every couple of minutes. Fun stuff. Great episode. :ponydrugs:

Could've used Junebug though. Just saying.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:30 am

I love that Tabitha was able to come up with yet another new voice for Derpy that's transparently dimwitted/accident-prone, and yet is full of character and uniqueness. It's got its own little flourishes and twists and a very idiosyncratic cadence, like every syllable in "these flameless fireworks look even better than flowers" lasts exactly the same length of time, like someone who isn't 100% sure how talking works.

Tabitha really put some work into this one. :cheese:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:32 am

I kinda made that up on the fly, I was trying to remember Anderson's DA post on the subject. It's this person:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tina_Guo

Let's call her an electric cellist here. :-P

EDIT: I'm pretty sure Tabitha had extra incentive after the end result of The Last Roundup.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:35 am

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:-P :"Fighting a bugbear? Can't use magic beams? Can't divebomb? Too chicken? Can't use a lasso?"

:cheese: :"Show your support by boxing the air!"

:ohrarity: :"Indeed! Box! Box-box-box! Ruffian!"
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Postby Juniper Phoenix (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:09 am

Headless Horse wrote:I love that Tabitha was able to come up with yet another new voice for Derpy that's transparently dimwitted/accident-prone, and yet is full of character and uniqueness. It's got its own little flourishes and twists and a very idiosyncratic cadence, like every syllable in "these flameless fireworks look even better than flowers" lasts exactly the same length of time, like someone who isn't 100% sure how talking works.

Tabitha really put some work into this one. :cheese:

Yeah, it also sounded sort of like a compromise between her old and edited voices in The Last Roundup. It worked out nicely IMO.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:15 am

Well, back then it was a bit piece where the pony wasn't really identified (just as Ditzy Doo in the original AKR script). It wasn't obvious what gender the pony was from the name, I doubt AKR had a model in mind, so the voice director or whatever went with male. Really only Jayson and a couple others directed the use of the Derpy model, the episode was in production just as the fandom was getting started in earnest.

Now we are all well aware of what Derpy is, and what personality fans would be looking for. No wires to be crossed this time
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Postby LardLad3545 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:23 am

You guys remember when Season 1 and 2 monsters always had this kind of... cutesy style to them? Anyone also noticed that MLP monsters don't seem to have that particular design feature anymore? Just look at that Bugbear. Yeah, it's goofy, but... it's not cute either. Neither was Tirek. I'm not sure what I'm getting at...
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:37 am

Ragnar wrote:So I guess Gummy probably COULD make a cake, but he was frozen with existential despair the entire time Pinkie was gone.

Why was there a changeling, and not even in disguise? At least the other wedding invasion almost worked. I don't think Chrysalis is even trying anymore. :rainbert:


You can't invade the willing when you're invited. Clever donkey.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:38 am

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:amazing: Kind of called it!
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Postby Ragnar (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:40 am

The dragon wasn't too cute.
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:46 am

Headless Horse wrote:You tell me that isn't the best horse gag they've done in centuries, go on.


I think this one is tied with "mom's boring snacks" being just a bale of hay
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:47 am

That bugbear looks like something that'd ruin your camp in Don't Starve. :ohrarity:
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:10 am

Wow, hats off to the entire staff, that was an amazing ride!
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:25 am

LardLad3545 wrote:You guys remember when Season 1 and 2 monsters always had this kind of... cutesy style to them? Anyone also noticed that MLP monsters don't seem to have that particular design feature anymore? Just look at that Bugbear. Yeah, it's goofy, but... it's not cute either. Neither was Tirek. I'm not sure what I'm getting at...


That bugbear has a heart pattern right there on the middle of his chest.
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Postby Factory Factory (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:07 am

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Postby Jill (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:52 am

This episode was wild and crazy and fun and I loved it.

I like that they treated the mane 6 as (mostly) background characters this time around, but you don't gotta exclude them from the ceremony to make the point. :saddershy:

Wayoshi wrote:So who actually took care of the bugbear - the Mane 6 or Bon Bond? :ponder:
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  • the pandabee issue gets resolved like this: :allears: "oh, um, right. i got so into these combative poses that i forgot about my ability to befriend anything"
You know it to be true. :flutterunsmith: The episode even verified that Fluttershy never lays a hoof on the thing, like she's just watching the fighting up close and getting ready to try a different approach.

This prediction also sorta came true:
  • at least two gay pony relationships will become canon
Lyrabon and Scratchtavia are """"""best friends"""""" and the ending clearly indicates the mane 6 are in one big polyamorous relationship. :gotcha:

  • the sun will set and rise once again
  • headless horse will probably post something about the episode
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:20 am

I'm more happy with friendships because MAGIC.

Also I cannot believe nobody has mentioned that FATKID WAS IN MULTIPLE SCENES. Sadly no dialogue or fez.

Hopefully we can see his widdle chubby self with his fez again however.
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:05 am

Yeah that was alright. Echoing the sentiments of others in this thread the parts I liked best were:

Steven Magnet return, Gummy the deep thinker, Celestia and Luna bickering. Also the scenes with Lyra and secret agent Bon Bon, even though what I know about background ponies like these could be written on the back of a postage stamp (until now, that is :gotcha: ).

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Postby Gnot Syndrome (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:46 am

Was the fact that "jack" and "jenny" refer to male and female donkeys respectively news to anyone else? I like that this show is still teaching me horsey(ish) terms.
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Postby Amethyst_Gem (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:24 pm

I thought the bickering scene was funny, but it felt a bit sad... considering it was only maybe the 4th time these two have spoken directly to each other on the show.
Besides their 1st emotional reunion in very 2nd episode, the other discussions were about 'dealing with foes' business.
So I'm relieved they had that little moment of making up too.

Mayor's speech when the pony sun and moon sisters make up for their wedding gift bickering:
'and no matter what obstacles kept them apart, love would finally bring them together, just as it has brought all of us together now'

Considering the one thousand years of separation they've only recently finally overcome,
and the dark days of misunderstanding each other before that,
I like to think this line really cut these sisters to the quick,
and they felt genuinely bad for their little squabble.
They are real and relatable enough pony sisters that they can bicker over petty issues,
but they're also really happy to have each other again too,
and I'm happy they took a moment to make that quite clear.
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(P.S.: We need an overtly happy Luna smilie on the list! )

Bonus points for Spike turning to smile at them when the sisters make up.
They were trying to cover up their bickering in his presence, but that dragon is an expert pony mood reader at this point, so I'm sure he had context to be happy about.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:16 pm

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Two donkeys are getting married tonight.

:shock: I don't mean to correct you, Zecora, but it's today.

Image Oh, Twilight...you're such a card!
:speakest: The fun has been doubled!
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:29 pm

OK, the cruise internet went out on me as soon as the episode finished (great timing, right? :v: ). Anyway, this episode was a awesome rollercoaster ride of emotions with my personal favourite moments being Gummy's inner thoughts, Celestia and Luna's argument and the big reveal with Bon Bon. It was just amazing. :yay:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:33 pm

Amethyst_Gem wrote:I thought the bickering scene was funny, but it felt a bit sad... considering it was only maybe the 4th time these two have spoken directly to each other on the show.
Besides their 1st emotional reunion in very 2nd episode, the other discussions were about 'dealing with foes' business.
So I'm relieved they had that little moment of making up too.

Mayor's speech when the pony sun and moon sisters make up for their wedding gift bickering:
'and no matter what obstacles kept them apart, love would finally bring them together, just as it has brought all of us together now'

Considering the one thousand years of separation they've only recently finally overcome,
and the dark days of misunderstanding each other before that,
I like to think this line really cut these sisters to the quick,
and they felt genuinely bad for their little squabble.
They are real and relatable enough pony sisters that they can bicker over petty issues,
but they're also really happy to have each other again too,
and I'm happy they took a moment to make that quite clear.
:delight: :unenthused:
(P.S.: We need an overtly happy Luna smilie on the list! )

Bonus points for Spike turning to smile at them when the sisters make up.
They were trying to cover up their bickering in his presence, but that dragon is an expert pony mood reader at this point, so I'm sure he had context to be happy about.
:spike101:


The comics do a great job of letting the two be Sisters. You're hard pressed to find any interactions between the two in them where you don't get some sisterly banter and affection. You are right that this is the first time since the pilot that the two have acted like they are related.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:47 pm

I just caught the Mayor's "many more who couldn't be here today" line on a rewatch. Good way of making sure everypony is covered. Image Image
:speakest: The fun has been doubled!
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Postby theGECK (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:55 pm

Without reading the rest of this thread...


...wut did I just watch? This seemed like an excessive amount of fan service. Everything happened for no reason in the show, it's all fanon reasons! Why does Derpy offer a muffin? Because we said so. Why is BonBon a secret agent? Because we wanted it? Why is there a completely unnecessary and completely awesome dubstep/cello duet in the 3rd act? Because it's awesome!

This was a completely useless episode, but tons of fun. And now we know that there are Bugbears!

Oh, and this will be the episode that is used by Fox News to show MLP is the downfall of humanity because the donkeys were cohabitating before being married.
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Postby Seven Seas (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:04 pm

Some super-neat tidbits from the panel M.A. Larson just did at MLP-MSP:

1. First off and foremost, yes Derpy’s official name is now Muffins. It’s so official that even though her name is never said, Hasbro had Larson go back and rewrite every instance of her name

2. Amy Keating Rogers was the first writer for the script, but she ended up getting switched with Larson for this one and she wrote the one about the Griffins instead.

3. Larson didn’t actually want to be the one to write this episode but he did amazing with it.

4. Apparently Vinyl doesn’t talk on the show. In early versions of the script, she had lines but they were removed because… she doesn’t talk (we weren’t given a reason for this)

5. The episode was originally just a few brony shoutouts and then they just decided to go big with it.

6. The info that really floored me was that HASBRO was the one pushing the episode and telling DHX to add more brony stuff (so if anyone out there is complaining about too much fan service, it’s actually Hasbro’s fault)

7. Early scripts didn’t center around the wedding and the Vinyl and Octavia story was about Vinyl crashing at Octavia’s and wrecking her couch, and going to buy a new couch for her (riveting!)

8. Bonbon being a secret agent is an allusion to her various voices and appearances.

9. The Bugbear was just a simple bear at first, until someone suggested it be a panda as a reference to “they’re throwing pandas at us”

10. Gummy was scripted to have a French accent, dunno why they didn’t go with it.

11. Many scenes were cut including (but not limited to because I don’t remember them all)

  • When Derpy said, “I feel just awful, doc!” the scene was going to pan out and instead of Doctor Whooves it was going to be Doc… someone else I can’t remember the name >_< I suck… but Derpy would have said, “Oh sorry wrong table” and moved to Doctor Whooves
  • Doctor Whooves traumatic childhood event was going to be that he could never figure out how bowling worked
  • When Doctor Whooves was running up to Rarity’s, Opal was going to be sitting on Tom and he was going to say, “Looking good Opal and Tom!” (or something to that effect)
  • A scene where a group of background ponies walk by, then recolors of the same group walk by them and then they’d stand there for a moment and one would eventually say, “Well, this is awkward”
  • At one point Flash Sentry would be walking behind Cranky saying something along the lines of, “I did this for you and that for you and washed your car and you still don’t like me… why doesn’t anyone like me?”
  • After Luna and Celestia began fighting it was going to pan to outside where some of Celesitia’s guards and Luna’s bat guards would be doing impressions of them (this was Larson’s favorite scene that got removed)
  • The original ending had a changling swarm heading for ponyvillie as the ending after the gang hugged, but they opted to go with one changling in the audience at the wedding instead

and along that note, Steven Magnet was also originally planned to be in the Season 3 finale with even a song, but it was cut
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:13 pm

Very interesting indeed, especially about the removed scenes. Thanks for posting :yay:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:17 pm

Wow, some of those deleted scenes could have been interesting. I hope they make it to a DVD release someday, they'd be neat to see.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:23 pm

After Luna and Celestia began fighting it was going to pan to outside where some of Celesitia’s guards and Luna’s bat guards would be doing impressions of them (this was Larson’s favorite scene that got removed)


That would have been great. :lol:
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:35 pm

Seven Seas wrote:
  • A scene where a group of background ponies walk by, then recolors of the same group walk by them and then they’d stand there for a moment and one would eventually say, “Well, this is awkward”
  • At one point Flash Sentry would be walking behind Cranky saying something along the lines of, “I did this for you and that for you and washed your car and you still don’t like me… why doesn’t anyone like me?”
  • After Luna and Celestia began fighting it was going to pan to outside where some of Celesitia’s guards and Luna’s bat guards would be doing impressions of them (this was Larson’s favorite scene that got removed)
  • The original ending had a changling swarm heading for ponyvillie as the ending after the gang hugged, but they opted to go with one changling in the audience at the wedding instead


All four of these sound like they would have been golden.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:16 pm

Ah see, Flash Sentry was close to getting in. :-P
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