Re: S04E16: It Ain't Easy Being Breezies




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ROBOT B9
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ROBOT B9 wrote:I knew of the Flash Sentry one but people actually got upset over Pinkie in Filli Vanilli? How the hell does that happen?
Tears[/url[quote="[url=http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=577028#p577028]Passport Clean wrote:Levinger is getting twitter hate for this one. Send her some love if you can.
It is true that it's more common in every fandom now, but it's a relatively unprecedented level of contact and influence. At one time, fans could only get in touch with staff at conventions. Then came bulletin boards and newsgroups. Then public email addresses. Now expressing your opinion is as simple as sending a tweet.Fizzbuzz wrote:Isn't that something that happens in any fandom? Getting that publicly upset over a TV show (or any other piece of media) is always a problem, but I don't think it's necessarily endemic to us. At least not to where we're "the worst fandom of all time" because of it.
ROBOT B9 wrote:I don't think any fandoms are the worst, to tell you the truth. All of them seem to get all hyped up over tiny problems...it's like what they do.
ROBOT B9 wrote:I don't think any fandoms are the worst, to tell you the truth. All of them seem to get all hyped up over tiny problems...it's like what they do.
Fizzbuzz wrote:Isn't that something that happens in any fandom? Getting that publicly upset over a TV show (or any other piece of media) is always a problem, but I don't think it's necessarily endemic to us. At least not to where we're "the worst fandom of all time" because of it.
Then came bulletin boards and newsgroups. Then public email addresses.
Pinkie in Filli Vanilli
Passport Clean wrote:
I realized just now, unexpectedly, after three and a half seasons and in the middle of the most innocuous sort of episode, I've found MY character - The one who represents me best, for better and worse, a well-meaning but intemperate foul-mouthed asshole trying to learn how to interact positively with a group he has a difficult relationship with.
Just like that, I've become Sea Breeze's #1 fan..
Davyinatoga wrote:Imagine if hundreds of entitled jerks decided to curse out Jim Henson productions every time they ever did a scene with Ernie in the bathtub in the middle of the living room instead of the bathroom.
ThunderBunny wrote:Idk why, but I find that rather delightful. I send double-pone cider hugs to you, person with whom I've never interacted!
Davyinatoga wrote:Imagine if hundreds of entitled jerks decided to curse out Jim Henson productions every time they ever did a scene with Ernie in the bathtub in the middle of the living room instead of the bathroom.
SoundMonkey44 wrote:Sea Breeze is BEST BREEZIE!!!
I hope we see A Flutes/SeaBreeze Friends Forever comic someday!
The Doctor wrote:Really, the Breezies were total assholes to poor Sea Breeze. We don't see him being harsh to everyone till they start sitting on their fairy flanks.
Wayoshi wrote:I don't think the anger is "do it our way", it's "don't do it in the generic kiddy way, you're great at avoiding doing this, what happened."
Wayoshi wrote:Preview edit: Aramek longpost! How about Flitter talking, Aramek?
Rainbow Crash wrote:Yeah, this is the biggest criticism of the episode that I don't understand.
I think with all we've seen in the show regarding ponies asserting control over nature that it's safe to assume that the breezies did indeed die a lot on their journey before ponies decided to help. The birds in Equestria need a pegasus to guide them back north after winter is over, for goodness sake! Is the breezies' situation that much different? Ponies are integral to the workings of nature. That's just how this fantasy world works.
Aramek wrote:Y'all ready for a laughably bad effortpost about why this episode was deep and awesome and Sea Breeze was a fantastic character?
(I'm at work, so, I can't link videos or images to make this more fun to look it.)
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I'd mentioned my instant kinship with Sea Breeze's character with a shallow yet somehow pithy "I'm that. That character is me." earlier, but, now, thinking on it, I've finally figured out why I felt that way, and it is what has led me to appreciating this even more than I did the first time. SB showcased that one emotion, perhaps one of the truest emotions that is so hard to accurately portray (especially in this show) simultaneous outward and inward hate/resentment/fear/frustration. I say true emotion because it is perhaps the one that I understand the most, personally, so I'd like to think I'm good at spotting it, and boy howdy did I spot it here.
Firstly, the outward. SB is a frustrated leader, and it really shows. The others won't listen, and he's consistantly having to hammer home the right thing to do onto them, usually to no avail. And so, we see SB as the sailor-mouthed asshole. The "OH, YOU MUST BE SOOOO PROUD!" part where, as he sees it, the other breezies are being coddled or even supported because of their inability function. Like a "Yep, way to fuck everything up again, and you don't even care. You don't even care that you are dragging me down with you. There is something we HAVE to do, and you just...don't! You just don't do it! YOU CAN'T DO IT! AND THAT MIGHT EVEN BE FORGIVABLE, BUT THE WORST OF ALL IS THAT YOU THINK IT IS OKAY TO NOT BE ABLE TO FUNCTION! AUUUGGGHHH!" level of frustration. (This is extra hilarious because Drummond was Vegeta in the original Ocean dub. This is more weighty when you factor in both facets of SB's personality.) So, it is clear that he's super frustrated all the time being stuck with a bunch of wimps. Like, eternally being stuck in a school group project where nobody else does any work at all. That sucks. So, you'd expect him to be that much better than the rest of them, right? So much stronger, and more capable, and that's why he's so angry at the rest of them!
But he's not.
The inward hatred is where it truly comes together. SB hates his own weakness, his own...inability to do what every other creature can simply do without thinking: survive. The one SENTIMENT that did it for me above all others is the (I can't remember the exact wording) "PSSH, WHAT DO WE EVEN NEED THAT STUPID MAGIC FOR? WHY DO WE NEED MAGIC TO KEEP THE POLLEN SAFE ANYWAY!?" If SB was outwardly hostile to everything, we'd call it "Scrappy Doo Syndrome" or "Small Man's Disease" where, to cover up their own insecurity, the character feels the need to be overly aggressive all the time. But we only see this manifest towards himself and towards the breezies that he's leading. He resents his own weakness, his own inability to "do" that he's extra stern and "lashes out" towards the other breezies because he sees that they have accepted it. The one thing he hates the most about himself, he sees these other breezies just go "yep, we're weak in mind and body so, no sense in fighting it". He's angry and frustrated because he's fighting against his own invisible inner demons, and the lazy attitudes of all the other breezies only feed that demon. Seeing everyone else be so...unable, only makes him more frustrated and disappointed in himself. Like good old Vegeta being all "It's not fair! I'm supposed to be the best! I'm the prince of all sandwiches! Euuuuggggghhhhh!"
So, in the end, when he accepts Fluttershy's lesson on kindness and starts to use positive firmness, it is representative of, perhaps not him accepting his limitations, but, instead, helping the other breezies to want to fight against theirs. And, for the mission (getting home) that was just enough push to do it. SB believes in himself, and, now, he wants to make everyone else believe in themselves too. Instead of just giving up on them, seeint them as lost causes, and bossing them around, he's grown into what it really means to be a leader, not just a boss.
And that's why Sea Breeze is the best character.
Frosthawk wrote:
Still, though. If someone's anger is reaching a point that's not just "I didn't like this episode, not going to watch it again" but extends into "I need to tell this writer how much she sucks!" then they just need to fuck right off.
Aramek wrote:I empathize with the little guy. A lot. A lot, a lot.![]()
One thing in the episode that made me melt into cutsey gibberish is when Twilight said "Presenting, THE BREEZIES!" Like, how she went all high pitched on BREEZIES is so fucking cute. Like, too cute. Shiba Inu level of cute. Damn it Twilight, stop suddenly saying something utteraly adorable. She even gestured with her noodle hoof as she went high pitched.
Frosthawk wrote:
Still, though. If someone's anger is reaching a point that's not just "I didn't like this episode, not going to watch it again" but extends into "I need to tell this writer how much she sucks!" then they just need to fuck right off.
shotgunbadger wrote:
This is also the best post.
This fandom has to be one of the most entitled ones out there.
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