S06E04: On Your Marks

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Re: S06E04: On Your Marks

Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:17 am

Chronos30 wrote:There was some new music playing during that montage where they look for blank flanks (among adults?) but in my head I was still hearing the original montage music they played back in season 1 a couple times.


I don't know what's up with that new crusadin' theme. It sounds really simplistic and discordant. Not in the slightest like the way pony BGM usually sounds.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:44 am

I'm actually a bit disappointed that none of the Mane Six appeared, because they know all about friendship with differing interests and would have had some great wisdom to share. (Yes, I know this is precisely why they weren't in the episode, so it wouldn't be solved in five minutes.)

:3: "Heck, I spend all day flying, and half my friends physically can't do that!"
:excite: "And Rainbow Dash stays home during our tea parties. (Though the invitation's still open, Rainbow!)"
:party: "And she also never attends our Thursday Hoof-Touching Club meetings!"
:twasnothin: "Me an' Rarity are besties, and 80% of my very existence is repulsive to her."
:vogue: "It's true!"
:flutterunsmith: "I've never been comfortable acting on an internationally popular television show."
:pcstare: :speakest: "Have we ever mentioned that our interests are literally as different as night and day?"
:spoiler: "It might have come up once or twice."
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Postby Yolostar (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:01 am

That was an okay episode. Not bad but nothing really special. I have basically written the same thing about every S6 episode. I'm still waiting on that first stellar episode of the season.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:13 am

Yolostar wrote:Not bad but nothing really special.
Your favourite pone was in it.
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Postby Yolostar (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:44 am

Aramek wrote:Your favourite pone was in it.

I didn't see Blossomforth at all though. :conftoot:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:20 am

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Postby Bremen (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:53 am

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Came close to hitting my "CMC growing up" spot, but not quite. I think I'm still just on "Changeling Appearance."
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:24 am

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Came close to hitting my "CMC growing up" spot, but not quite. I think I'm still just on "Changeling Appearance."


You're doing better than I am (sitting at zero). I really should've focused a little harder on likely things rather than just unusual things/things I'd like to happen.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:24 am

At least it's been revealed now that Apple Bloom is allergic to bee stings! :amazing:
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:34 am

I was actually quite cool with cutie mark crusader existential crisis. Preferred it more to last week's episode.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:02 am

I got one more.

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Next few episodes will give me at least a couple more.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:12 am

Headless Horse wrote:At least it's been revealed now that Apple Bloom is allergic to bee stings! :amazing:

Most everyone is, in a way. If you weren't allergic at all then a bee sting would cause no pain, swelling, etc.; i.e., you'd be immune to it. In a more colloquial sense, since that's the most common reaction to being stung by a bee, if Apple Bloom is more allergic than that then hopefully it's not to where she'd have a horsie EpiPen on her at all times.

At least bees who are out foraging are normally quite docile. It's only when they think you're threatening their hive that they might start getting aggressive without other provocation.
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Postby Brunellus (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:44 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Most everyone is, in a way. If you weren't allergic at all then a bee sting would cause no pain, swelling, etc.; i.e., you'd be immune to it. In a more colloquial sense, since that's the most common reaction to being stung by a bee, if Apple Bloom is more allergic than that then hopefully it's not to where she'd have a horsie EpiPen on her at all times.

At least bees who are out foraging are normally quite docile. It's only when they think you're threatening their hive that they might start getting aggressive without other provocation.


It's easier for humans. You just bite off the tip of a finger and you will produce epinephrine naturally.
If one doesn't work, bite off another. It's not like you'll be using them if you die.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:24 am

Headless Horse wrote:At least it's been revealed now that Apple Bloom is allergic to bee stings! :amazing:

:annoyed: "That's right, I'm named after a flower and I'm allergic to bees. Hi-larious."
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:43 am

Also I love imagining the day that the CMC asked Rarity to make square dancing & yodeling outfits. :starity:
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:43 am

:whatsup: Have you three considered piracy? You'd make some great Dread Pirate Robertses.

Fizzbuzz wrote:In that same vein, someone mentioned this in #ponyday earlier:
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Oh wow, let that joke never die!
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:09 am

Mechanical Ape wrote:
  • The sun on the stage backdrop has a horsie snout!

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Also: I don't remember this Lyra reskin, but apparently she's been in a few episodes.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:28 pm

So hey, no-one's really talking about it much, but what did everyone think of Applebloom's song in this one?

I wasn't too sure what was coming when the music kicked in, but it's actually a pretty beautiful song I think. Not too similar to anything they've done already (maybe "What More is Out There" from Friendship Games is closest?), and with some really nice lyrics - I can't remember a single really duff line, which can't be said of too many MLP songs.

I like the way the chorus doesn't go quite where you're expecting it to as well, and the lighter sound to the instrumentation in the middle section is great. Michelle Creber's vocals are obviously great.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:15 pm

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Also, storyboarder Ward Jenkins did a Q&A on a different forum.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:20 pm

PaulloDEC wrote:So hey, no-one's really talking about it much, but what did everyone think of Applebloom's song in this one?

I wasn't too sure what was coming when the music kicked in, but it's actually a pretty beautiful song I think. Not too similar to anything they've done already (maybe "What More is Out There" from Friendship Games is closest?), and with some really nice lyrics - I can't remember a single really duff line, which can't be said of too many MLP songs.

I like the way the chorus doesn't go quite where you're expecting it to as well, and the lighter sound to the instrumentation in the middle section is great. Michelle Creber's vocals are obviously great.



Thought it was pretty bland and uninteresting. Much like the rest of the episode.

Though at least it seemed to lead towards the CMC not being bound by Cutie Mark stuff in the future.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:22 pm

Someone already mentioned Andy Warhorse's soup can cutie mark, but Dali's melting clock and Picasso's cubes were pretty on point as well.

Good episode, would watch tiny ponies struggle with the meaning of life again A++

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The cutie mark is often harder on the pony. But given time, they can move past it, and heal. --the actual plot of this episode
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:28 pm

PaulloDEC wrote:So hey, no-one's really talking about it much, but what did everyone think of Applebloom's song in this one?

I wasn't too sure what was coming when the music kicked in, but it's actually a pretty beautiful song I think. Not too similar to anything they've done already (maybe "What More is Out There" from Friendship Games is closest?), and with some really nice lyrics - I can't remember a single really duff line, which can't be said of too many MLP songs.

I like the way the chorus doesn't go quite where you're expecting it to as well, and the lighter sound to the instrumentation in the middle section is great. Michelle Creber's vocals are obviously great.


I'm in favor of it.

It's framed rather interestingly, or at least that's how I interpreted it: she's talking about trying new things, going out on her own, finding her niche... but not in the hopeful, optimistic way that such a song might normally be presented, and in counterpoint against the fun-looking backdrops (i.e. whitewater rafting). She views finding her own place as a bitter and difficult thing to have to accept along with inevitably losing touch with your friends as you grow up. It's a mournful dirge about the same subjects that in a Disney movie would be the kickoff character song where the heroine tells of her dreams and high destiny.

Ultimately it's not all that complex and not that memorable musically (I really miss the way the S1 songs were able to become instant earworms), but it's treading new ground for the show in some interesting ways, and it does a lot to develop AB's character.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:31 pm


This very mildly bugs me since, back in The Show Stoppers, it was implied that Apple Bloom knew a little something about art and aesthetics, at least more than the other two did. As such I'd think her art would not be quite that bad, but considering that the show almost completely dropped that side of her in favor of her being an alchemist, I can understand why she wouldn't be particularly great at it now.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:45 pm

Marimo wrote:I got one more.

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Next few episodes will give me at least a couple more.


I think you can mark off "Episode with Mane 6 pairing we haven't seen before". There has never been a Pinkie and Rarity episode before.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:48 pm

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I think you can mark off "Episode with Mane 6 pairing we haven't seen before". There has never been a Pinkie and Rarity episode before.

PYHD came kind of close to that, but that episode was mainly starring Fluttershy and Iron Will.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:56 pm

The Doctor wrote:
I think you can mark off "Episode with Mane 6 pairing we haven't seen before". There has never been a Pinkie and Rarity episode before.

In addition to what Fizzbuzz said, I wrote an episode on a mane six pairing we haven't seen yet, not with. And the episode was more about Pinkie and Maud's relationship and even develops Rarity and Maud's more than Pinkie and Rarity's. Pinkie and Rarity's is there, but it's not really the focus or what the developments are about.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:01 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:Also I love imagining the day that the CMC asked Rarity to make square dancing & yodeling outfits. :starity:




:cry: "Only if you never tell a soul who made them..."
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Postby Eurocoin (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:29 pm

Adelor Lyon wrote:From what I've heard (from a Bronies React video that had both Michelle and Claire in it), the voice actor who played Twist moved away from the Vancouver studio to Pennsylvania and doesn't/can't voice for the show anymore.


It's not like they couldn't recast the character, wouldn't be the first time in the show either.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:18 pm

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It's not like they couldn't recast the character, wouldn't be the first time in the show either.

Can you name some cases where this happened after a character is more firmly established? Like I know Spitfire was voiced by someone else in SR, but back then she was more of just an extra Wonderbolt before being more of an actual character in BNE, where her voice actor was and has remained to be Kelly Metzger. And Bon Bon has had a lot of voices as a background pony, but they stuck to a consistent voice by Andrea Libman after SoL.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:12 pm

Marimo wrote:Can you name some cases where this happened after a character is more firmly established? Like I know Spitfire was voiced by someone else in SR, but back then she was more of just an extra Wonderbolt before being more of an actual character in BNE, where her voice actor was and has remained to be Kelly Metzger. And Bon Bon has had a lot of voices as a background pony, but they stuck to a consistent voice by Andrea Libman after SoL.

Pipsqueak had two different voice actors. He was voiced by William Lawrenson in "Luna Eclipsed", then later by Graham Verchere in both "Twilight Time" and "Crusaders of the Lost Mark".
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:16 pm

There was also Flutterguy, too. She was played by Blu Mankuma back in Bridle Gossip, but in Filli Vanilli she had two actors: Alvin Sanders did her speaking voice and Marcus Mosley sang for her in that episode.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:36 pm

(posting my impressions on the late night train ride (midnight express, though no cake wagon is attached) home after the final BUCK, where I, most appropriately, had the opportunity to talk with Peter New, who, as per usual, performed stellar in this episode. Such a nice and thoughtful guy).

Anyhow, yet another nice CMC episode—following the usual pattern that when it regards cutie marks (and now also post cutie marks) Apple Bloom is the focal character. It was, in my estimation, a pretty good CMC episode that I would probably place somewhere in their upper third, as it features a song as well as crucial character development.

It was good to see Bulk again, and while it of course would have been nice to see the Main 6, this was a problem for the CMC/Apple Bloom to figure out on their own. I liked the song, which captured Apple Bloom's trepidations well. And of course, we had Tabitha to perform as the delightful Hoofer Steps.

Once again I wonder at the rôle of Sweetie Belle's parents—Rarity is the one who would have to approve of Sweetie Belle's travelling arrangements? Have they finally lost custody?
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:12 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:This very mildly bugs me since, back in The Show Stoppers, it was implied that Apple Bloom knew a little something about art and aesthetics, at least more than the other two did. As such I'd think her art would not be quite that bad, but considering that the show almost completely dropped that side of her in favor of her being an alchemist, I can understand why she wouldn't be particularly great at it now.


Uh, I took that to mean she was good at carpentry/decoration, since she basically fixed up the clubhouse all on her own (and one of the others' roles in the play was coming up with the backgrounds and stuff). Obviously that wasn't a very interesting side to her, so they ditched that in favor of the potion stuff :v:
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:30 pm

I just had a crazy thought. What if the CMC were suppose to originally have different cutie marks? Like a music note for Sweetie Belle or an apple for Apple Bloom? But because they spent so much time and effort practicing getting cutie marks that getting cutie marks became the thing they were best at at the time and they got cutie mark themed cutie marks? It is like a self fulfilling prophecy.
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But what if because now they got their cutie mark cutie marks they are now going to branch off into other activities and realize they are better at other things? What if Scootaloo grows up to become a professional skater and years later she comes to the thought "I haven't done that whole help others with their cutie marks since I was a kid, I really just love skateboarding. What am I suppose to do with my life?" Then it is revealed that cutie marks aren't your destiny, they are just representations of what you were good at the most when you got them. So she has to spend the rest of her life in regret knowing she wasted her opportunity on trying to get a cutie mark then finding her true calling in life.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:42 pm

The credits list Dave Polsky as the screenplay author, then "written by" both him and Josh Haber. I wonder if they did have to tweak it late in the game when they wrote the CMC-getting-their-marks episode.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:44 pm

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Uh, I took that to mean she was good at carpentry/decoration, since she basically fixed up the clubhouse all on her own (and one of the others' roles in the play was coming up with the backgrounds and stuff). Obviously that wasn't a very interesting side to her, so they ditched that in favor of the potion stuff :v:

Yeah, there's that too. I guess I just figure that Apple Bloom wouldn't totally suck at art, but it's really not an interest she pursued either.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:06 am

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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:10 am

Dirneigh Dancing?
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:19 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Yeah, there's that too. I guess I just figure that Apple Bloom wouldn't totally suck at art, but it's really not an interest she pursued either.


I dunno, that looks okay for a little kid. I mean, it's better than I could do. But maybe that says more about my talent than it does hers. *cough*
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:20 am

Aramek wrote:Dirneigh Dancing?

Dirty Prancing.
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