S06E12: Flutter Brutter

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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:09 pm

Looks like Fluttershy's friendship with Disco prepared her well for dealing Zephyr

But yeah that scene in the forest definitely helped Zephyr's character.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:11 pm

Adelor Lyon wrote:"Story by Meghan McCarthy"

She's projecting her convention experiences.

Is Zephyr wearing young Applejack's Manehatten hair?

I was happy to see Meghan involved in a regular ep again. Story was solid
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:13 pm

Octavia wrote:I definitely saw a Link pony trotting by with a cart full of rupees in the background

I must have a frame of this. :v:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:14 pm

He was such a douche at first that the "actually I'm just afraid of failure" thing seemed to come out of nowhere.

Other than that it was a great episode though.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:19 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I must have a frame of this.

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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:21 pm

He reminded me of Jean Ralphio or early season Tom Havaford from Parks and Rec.

Which I'll admit probably explains why I actually found his antics entertaining.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:21 pm

I don't trust that pony. He's probably left hoofded.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:21 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:He was such a douche at first that the "actually I'm just afraid of failure" thing seemed to come out of nowhere.

Other than that it was a great episode though.

I think being a jerk was his way of covering up the fact that he's afraid of failing.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:23 pm

DerFurShur wrote:He reminded me of Jean Ralphio or early season Tom Havaford from Parks and Rec.

Which I'll admit probably explains why I actually found his antics entertaining.



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Postby Marimo (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:25 pm


I can't remember, when exactly did he appear? Was it when they were going to see the Twilight Princess?
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Postby Jill (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:30 pm

I'll be the first one to say that this episode actually kind of sucked. They made Zephyr the most lecherous leech they possibly could only to say "get a job" and follow it up with "you're just not trying hard enough". If only such paper-thin inhibitions were applicable to anyone ever.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:31 pm

Marimo wrote:I can't remember, when exactly did he appear? Was it when they were going to see the Twilight Princess?


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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:32 pm



Kind of shocking he doesn't have a Triforce cutie mark.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:34 pm

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Kind of shocking he doesn't have a Triforce cutie mark.

Link only represents the Triforce of Courage. And a single yellow triangle just doesn't look that creative.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:34 pm

Also I love that "peeved" is a curse word in Equestria :gotcha:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:34 pm

As friendship is literally magic, being grumpy and having a word for it is a literal curse.
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:35 pm

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Kind of shocking he doesn't have a Triforce cutie mark.

It's a quarter heart, which indicates he should have spent all of his screen time screaming out every second.
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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 4:47 pm

Dexanth wrote:Ah, I am loving Season 6. This one hit close to home since I see a lot of Zephyr in old-me. So I empathize with him, somewhat. He was still a jerk though for most of it!

Same, though I was totally a jerk when I was still figuring out what I wanted to do with myself. I'm so happy they went with that lesson and made Zephyr someone you could eventually start rooting for.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:05 pm

Image I wanted to go to Zephyr's graduation but somepony said it was out of the question.

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:05 pm

Octavia wrote:I definitely saw a Link pony trotting by with a cart full of rupees in the background

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:19 pm

Octavia wrote:I think being a jerk was his way of covering up the fact that he's afraid of failing.

It's possible, although I felt he just wasn't interested in leaving the nest until he was forced to. The tantrum in the woods, mooching off his family, trying to sabotage attempts at hooking him up with simple jobs... he may very well be able to do things, but he's not going to try until he has to.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:49 pm

Things I liked:
++ Fluttershy's parents
+++ Fluttershy is more assertive
++ Funnily Fluttershy is the most assertive in the family
+ Zephyr's constant failing to hook up with Rainbow Dash was the only bit I liked that involved Zephyr.

Things I disliked:
---- Zephyr's annoying character. I strongly dislike these kind of jerks who believe that everything they see is their own (place).
- Song (I dislike the majority of the songs because they don't add much or any value to the story)

Rating: 6/10
In my opinion it's a slightly above average episode but if Zephyr's jerkiness was toned down a bit it could be easily an 8/10.
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 5:51 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:He was such a douche at first that the "actually I'm just afraid of failure" thing seemed to come out of nowhere.


Mmm, yeah, same. Looks like a couple folks here have a theory about that, but I might need to give 'er another watch before I can say the idea holds water.

Anyhow. You know what I found interesting? Zephyr's kinda both the "antagonist" and the main character of this episode. (Technically that'd make him the "protagonist", but he's not the main character of the show in general, so I dunno what to call him actually). The whole thing's all about him and his personal growth. Fluttershy and RD are a little more... "side character"-y? But at the same time, we're obviously supposed to see Zephyr (at the start of things, at least) as a jerk. He might be the central character, but we're not really supposed to be rooting for him (til later on). That being said, he's still a pretty entertaining jerk. The voicing adds a lot to that. But yeah. I'm not sure a "problem character"'s gone and overshadowed the Mane 6 before.

Also, off topic, just because I need to vent: Over on another site, I made an argument about canon not mattering in MLP (you know the endless argument about if the comics/books/etc. are "canon" or not?). Now, you may not agree with me, but that's not the point; The point is, I think it was a pretty reasonable argument. But here's the thing. I finished it off by saying how at the end of the day MLP's for 8 year olds. These two guys, without responding to a single dang thing I said, latched on to that one line, misunderstood it and decided that I was trying to be "edgy", and that it wasn't worth trying to argue with "people like that".
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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:03 pm

Daring Do wrote:
Mmm, yeah, same. Looks like a couple folks here have a theory about that, but I might need to give 'er another watch before I can say the idea holds water.

Anyhow. You know what I found interesting? Zephyr's kinda both the "antagonist" and the main character of this episode. (Technically that'd make him the "protagonist", but he's not the main character of the show in general, so I dunno what to call him actually). The whole thing's all about him and his personal growth. Fluttershy and RD are a little more... "side character"-y? But at the same time, we're obviously supposed to see Zephyr (at the start of things, at least) as a jerk. He might be the central character, but we're not really supposed to be rooting for him (til later on). That being said, he's still a pretty entertaining jerk. The voicing adds a lot to that. But yeah. I'm not sure a "problem character"'s gone and overshadowed the Mane 6 before.

Also, off topic, just because I need to vent: Over on another site, I made an argument about canon not mattering in MLP (you know the endless argument about if the comics/books/etc. are "canon" or not?). Now, you may not agree with me, but that's not the point; The point is, I think it was a pretty reasonable argument. But here's the thing. I finished it off by saying how at the end of the day MLP's for 8 year olds. These two guys, without responding to a single dang thing I said, latched on to that one line, misunderstood it and decided that I was trying to be "edgy", and that it wasn't worth trying to argue with "people like that".

For that last bit, I agree with you and it's garbage they latched onto that.

That also kind of leads me to my next point in that the severe swap from Zephyr being an unlikable jerk to rooting for him would have probably been WAY smoother if the writers had more than 22 minutes, taking account for that time crunch, I think they managed fairly well to make me go from UGH to you can do it!
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:06 pm

Pretty good ep, loved Fluttershy and the song at the end. I think Zephyr could've been less of a jerk.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 6:56 pm

I'm three minutes in and I fucking hate him with every fiber of my being.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:00 pm

haha... Fluts' brother has never been mentioned before but the entire Mane Six already knows he's a total fuckin' loser. Fantastic.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:03 pm

:glare: Get a job, you lazy millennial
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:04 pm

Corpy wrote:haha... Fluts' brother has never been mentioned before but the entire Mane Six already knows he's a total fuckin' loser. Fantastic.

Bad messages always travel faster than light. It's one of nature's laws (according to the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy books).
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:16 pm

And now he has student loans to pay off...

He really needs to stop hitting on Rainbow Dash, though.. it's creepy and weird, especially with her girlfriend sitting right there :flipout:
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:19 pm

Loved it. A weird thing I was hoping for was that they would acknowledge how RD and Fluttershy have been friends for most of their lives and they did it by having RD be so close with the family. A lot of good interactions came from that.
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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:28 pm

Rainbow Crash wrote:Loved it. A weird thing I was hoping for was that they would acknowledge how RD and Fluttershy have been friends for most of their lives and they did it by having RD be so close with the family. A lot of good interactions came from that.

Also Zephyr acknowledging that his sister and her best friend saved the world. :3: :yay:
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:36 pm

I hope this episode inspires some young people to try harder
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:46 pm

Corpy wrote:I hope this episode inspires some young people to try harder

Ditto. :3:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:47 pm

Rainbow Crash wrote:Loved it. A weird thing I was hoping for was that they would acknowledge how RD and Fluttershy have been friends for most of their lives and they did it by having RD be so close with the family. A lot of good interactions came from that.


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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 7:56 pm

It was alright I guess.

Some funny Fluttershy faces and Dash reactions though.
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Postby Perinerd (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:00 pm

DerFurShur wrote:I love how that super-early concept art of Fluttershy is a picture in the background


That was literally the first thing I noticed in the song!

It was a pretty good episode. 8/10, better than last week's.
We might not get a lot of Fluttershy episodes compared to other ponies, but normally when we do they're pretty good and this was no exception.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:31 pm

Corpy wrote: :glare: Get a job, you lazy millennial


She delivered "get a job" so perfectly.
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Postby Mordja (?) » Sat Jun 04, 2016 8:36 pm

Oh my god this episode was amazing. Zephyr was perfectly awful, and Fluttershy putting her hoof down was the best. I really feel like this season's emphasizing the "hey, these are grown-ass ponies with roles & responsibilities" more than ever and I couldn't be happier.
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