S07E01: Celestial Advice

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Re: S07E01: Celestial Advice

Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:33 pm

TO WAR!
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"The Aristocrats!"
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Poor bugs. :sweetiefrown:
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*tap tap*
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I love Dragonrider Starlight
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:rage: Dillon! :yeah:
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Wonder Twin powers, activate!
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They're shooting pony cairns. :wat:
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"I wasn't aware I was an expression," she smirks, as her student's heart races.
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"lol"
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Awwww. :blush:
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Still the best. I hope those spectacles provide adequate eye protection!
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We discovered argent energy!
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Awwww. :saddershy:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:35 pm

Are you sitting comfortably? Then let's begin.
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Twilight and her plant share a high five.
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Scenery.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Keep it together, Celestia! Keep! It! Together!
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:byopinkie:
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HUUUUGS!
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And more photos, of a sort.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:48 pm

I like how they seem to have taken the god horse aspect of Celestia down a bit and made her seem more *human* and relatable. Image
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:57 pm



This was weird. I wonder if it's just the writer or storyboarder missed the memo, but it's pretty clear those 5 only became friends after Twilight got there.

The implication that Celestia basically picked Twilight's friends for her is pretty weird to be honest.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:08 pm

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Maybe changelings can't change anymore?

We did see one mimic Starlight in Twilight's vision of what would happen if she sent Starlight off with Thorax. However, that was just Twilight's idea of what would happen, so maybe she's wrong about what changelings can and can't do now? I would think that Twilight would've had plenty of time off-camera with the changelings to figure that out, but who knows.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:19 pm

What better day to watch multicolored sugar-eating pastel ponies than Easter? That's the true meaning of Easter, is it not? Probably. I don't feel like looking it up.

So IIRC, when we left off, the Changelings were reformed into hideous antelope things, Starlight and Discord learned to work with others like Tango and Cash, and Trixie demonstrated awesome stage-magic ninja tricks. There was a song probably?

• We begin with Twilight teleporting into Starlight's room, because boundaries are not magic.
• Then Twilight dorks out with precision measurements and Spike does a Rarity impression. So this might be the best cold open ever.
• Oh thank God we got a closeup of the mirror photos. Ha, Rarity's blue dress is amazing. :iiaia:
• I'm not sure Starlight wants to look at herself in the mirror yet. She's got a trunkful of guilt that I don't think she's resolved yet.
• I wonder if newcomers to the show are confused by the part in the credits where Twilight doesn't have wings and then gets them.
• Well hey, Starlight's looking happy in the group photo. :flutterunsmith:
• There's also the Green Clover of Compassion, the Blue Diamond of Forbearance, and the Purple Horseshoe of Thriftiness. That is a cereal joke but now that I think on it, this is ponyland and those medals could really exist.
• Hey, Twilight saved the world in the pilot and she still had to write friendship letters for the whole season!
MAKEOVERS
• I'm sure Celestia was eating cake, then Twilight came up all "Map room in five minutes! I'm having PERSONAL PROBLEMS!" And Celestia rolls with it because you know what? She is a goddamned professional.
• I hope we return from commercials to have Celestia say "That is a fucking stupid idea, Twilight."
• Starlight Glimmer: HR manager! I hope she gives a Scared Straight presentation!
• "I was not aware that I was an expression." Line of the episode.
• Who knows what Ember and Starlight's dynamic would be like? Perhaps a million fanfic writers.
• Send her to the Breezies, Twi! I want to see Breezie Starlight!
• Celestia's laughter is terrifying.
• She's got anxieties. She still doesn't know about the parasprite incident, right? :flattered:
• Then there was the whole "Sunset Shimmer turned evil" debacle, but we don't talk about that. :pcstare:
• And in the end, I like that Starlight is still uncertain and insecure. She's not ready to fully enjoy the happy moments yet.

Welcome back pony. :ponydrugs:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:30 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:We did see one mimic Starlight in Twilight's vision of what would happen if she sent Starlight off with Thorax. However, that was just Twilight's idea of what would happen, so maybe she's wrong about what changelings can and can't do now? I would think that Twilight would've had plenty of time off-camera with the changelings to figure that out, but who knows.


Oh yeah, somehow I missed this one:

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You can tell he's a bad changeling because he has freckles.

Some panorama shots:

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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:36 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:
Oh yeah, somehow I missed this one:

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You can tell he's a bad changeling because he has freckles.


A-Applejack?
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:11 am

All I wanted was a gif of Ember and Starlight doing their Predator handshake and I haven't been able to find it :flail:

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:21 am

Rainbow Crash wrote:All I wanted was a gif of Ember and Starlight doing their Predator handshake and I haven't been able to find it :flail:

The fandom has failed me


Kinda short, but
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Postby Bremen (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:15 am

Highbrow Dash wrote:This was weird. I wonder if it's just the writer or storyboarder missed the memo, but it's pretty clear those 5 only became friends after Twilight got there.

The implication that Celestia basically picked Twilight's friends for her is pretty weird to be honest.


That's the impression I had from the start? I mean, they were the five ponies picked to handle specific parts of the ceremony, I always figured that was Celestia's way of guiding Twilight to them.

Also while they might not have all been best friends before Twilight arrived I expect they knew each other and don't think that scene is inconsistent. Could even be the five of them celebrating together after all getting picked to handle the event.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:35 am

I honestly thought that was just fate. Remember the Sonic Rainboom? They were destined to be friends before Celestia even knew Twilight existed :v:

They sorta knew each other, sure. Obviously Pinkie knows everypony in Ponyville :party: And Dash and Fluts were old friends, regardless of how close they were at the time (RD's kind of a jerk to her in season 1, but that's just the show finding its footing). AJ and Rarity, however, hated each other's guts. And I never got the impression that the 5 of them had much to do with each other before Twilight happened.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:08 am

I have nothing to explain why the Mane 5 were shown on-screen as hanging out together, but the fate/predestination thread is definitely something the show has used plenty of times before. And then there's the ongoing Starswirl/time travel stuff:

"Journal of the Two Sisters" dedicates an entire page to pointing out that he (Starswirl) knows what the star on the Tree of Harmony represents (and that he has knowledge of the future in general) but that he isn't telling. Who knows what he let slip later on?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:14 am

I think they just tried to cram in too much by only doing the one flashback, so they put in that mane 5 thing as well. I still thank the episode would have been better served with more flashbacks.

For example, Celestia no doubt wanted Twilight to make friends, but she sent Twilight there to save Luna. Heck, she gave her the book with the prophecy. Also, it was just as an advance party for the Summer Sun Celebration. Celestia didn't send Twilight away, thought she probably hoped that successful saving of Luna and new friends would make her want to stay, which she did. Celestia has seen students come and go for thousands of years. I think it would have been better to see her fears manifest tin one of her earlier students.

Ultimately, it's kind of like what happened in "Princess Twilight Sparkle", the flashbacks were not seen as a priority for the episode, though they probably should have been. In the end we get these super rushed flashbacks that don't really give the flashback the weight it deserves.

I know a lot of people in here have seen the Anime, Madoka. Imagine in instead of the entire 10th episode being dedicated to a Homura origin story, we just got a 5 minute bit crammed into another episode.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:46 am

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Pony Math :squintyjack:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:55 am

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Pony Math :squintyjack:


:wingsright: That's Celestia's gifted class. That's advanced pony math.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:20 am

Octavia wrote:Image

Pony Math :squintyjack:


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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:26 am

Bremen wrote:
Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together



:starity: mind blown...
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:48 am

:vince:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:21 pm

Bremen wrote:
Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together

HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO BLIND?!

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Your MRI results have shown total infection to now be approximately one fifth of the full mass of the tissue.

"So you're saying..."

Your brain is about 20% tumor.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:04 pm

Bremen wrote:
Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together

I don't get it.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 1:15 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I don't get it.

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Your MRI results have shown total infection to now be approximately one fifth of the full mass of the tissue.

"So you're saying..."

Your brain is about 20% tumor.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:03 pm

Bremen wrote:
Sunshine, lollipops and rainbows
Everything that's wonderful is what I feel when we're together

When we're 2-gether :spike101:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:05 pm

I saw.
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Your MRI results have shown total infection to now be approximately one fifth of the full mass of the tissue.

"So you're saying..."

Your brain is about 20% tumor.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:46 pm


Those changelings do love their Lesley Gore fests. It's more fun than it sounds.
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Postby Strangepony (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:00 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Some panorama shots:

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Scoots, don't stand on the table! :unenthused:

And that is the most brazen insertion of a writer's ponysona right there.


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The exact same classmates as the last flashback to Twi's childhood. Continuity! :twiright:
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:02 pm


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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:17 pm

Strangepony wrote:The exact same classmates as the last flashback to Twi's childhood. Continuity! :twiright:

It's the old gang: Lyra, Moondancer, Minuette, Lemon Hearts, Twinkleshine ... and one hugging Lyra whom I don't recognize.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:37 pm

I noticed Twilight is missing her cutie mark in the flashback, though
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 3:37 pm

Strangepony wrote:And that is the most brazen insertion of a writer's ponysona right there.

Eh, Andy Price first got his ponysona in the show way back in Princess Spike, where both he and Katie Cook showed up. At least this way it's kind of like the show making a shoutout to the comics instead of the show's crew putting themselves directly into the show.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:26 pm

One thing pointed out elsewhere: New changelings usually have catchlights wherever they're looking, but if you can catch them at the right angle, they have actual pupils, or something.

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Before, their eyes just had shading.

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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 6:46 pm


That's actually rather creepy :starity: I think I would've preferred gradient.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Apr 17, 2017 7:41 pm

I still wanna hug him.
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Your brain is about 20% tumor.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:44 am

Finally caught the episode. I bought it for $2.99 because I like to support the show. This episode felt... homely. Like a call back to last episode of season one. No big adventure just a celebration. I liked it.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:44 am

Lil' Twi's goggles cover her entire face. :-P

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Hunka-hunka burnin love!

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Postby Ransom (?) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:27 am

Soft Snow wrote:Finally caught the episode. I bought it for $2.99 because I like to support the show. This episode felt... homely. Like a call back to last episode of season one. No big adventure just a celebration. I liked it.
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This really is the most "low key" season opener in terms of stakes isn't it? No huge villain or impending cataclysm. I like it, though I'm all up for a another Dream Valley Eldritch horror to come when the time is right.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue Apr 18, 2017 5:54 am

Ransom wrote:This really is the most "low key" season opener in terms of stakes isn't it? No huge villain or impending cataclysm.

Actually, a lot of catastrophic things happen in Twilight's imagination.

:pcstare: "Don't you think you're being a little overwrought?"
:twonk: "No! It's the season premiere! Something horrible has to happen!"
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Postby Frith (?) » Sat Apr 22, 2017 3:16 pm

I think this was a nice opening for season 7. I have never really cared about Glimmer's friendship studies and that's why I didn't find the internal conflict with Twilight particularly interesting. But it was really nice to Celestia in bigger role and she was good here.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Thu May 25, 2017 9:00 pm

This was a long hiatus worth waiting for.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 27, 2017 6:24 pm

Watched this again today on Teletoon. It reminded me of how much better Celestia has become. Image
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