S04E19: Trade Ya!

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Re: S04E19: Trade Ya!

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 6:15 am

Wow...that's a really interesting method and I see where you get your awesome analysis from. Keep on the great work, Headless!
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 12:36 pm

Headless continues to be my hero. I hope to someday be 1/10th As awesome as he is! :awesomedash:
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 5:37 pm

Headless Horse wrote: a thinly disguised toy commercial selling plastic dolls to impressionable girls.


I'll grant you that about the show, but those toys were legit, even if you weren't an impressionable girl. :grumpydash:

Otherwise, though, I love your perspective, and it's how I try to approach most things in life. Take what comes with less expectation, more openness and gratitude, and suddenly the world is a pretty damn amazing place. :-D
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:58 pm

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Maybe? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:03 am

This episode was kinda ok for me but then I realized a kid from Make a Wish guest stared on it now every time I think about it I get the warm and fuzzies.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:06 am

Oatburger delivery. :v:
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Aaaaaaaah-

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~SHLOOP!~

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:yay: Another satisfied customer!


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Kinda wish this was Derpy.

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You can't break the rules!
:deflated: Did anypony see you do it? I don't think anypony saw! ...
:sbahj: But you're not gonna say anything, are you?!

Mechanical Ape wrote: :twiright: "Now, this book isn't a valuable 1st edition, just a well-used paperback copy."
:awesomedash: "Even better! Because that means I can read it --"
:excite: "With all your friends?"
:v: "I was gonna say 'on the can', but your answer's better."


I wonder what would have happened if Rainbow actually got her book?

:awesomedash: :"I can't wait to read it on the ride home!"
:sheepish: :"Y'know, mint conditions first editions aren't exactly for reading."
:awkward: :"Why not?!"
:shock: :"AUGH! Well what you just did there brought the condition from 'mint' to 'very fine'"
:saddash: :"I just opened it!"
:twiright: :"Book collecting is a very careful and demanding hobby."
:offendash: :"What the heck is a book good for if you can't-"
:twonk: :"Rainbow! Careful!"
:v: :"Whoops!"
:-/ :"Oh kayyy, that book is now graded 'Fair' at best."
:rainbert: :"Seems fair that I should read it! You're not the princess of me!"
R-R-R-R-RIP!
:facehoof: You know what, Rainbow? Go ahead, read the book.
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:23 am

I realky liked the premise for this. I have to agree that I'm really tired of the writers forcing us to do the whole AJ & Rarity thing over and over, but I'm glad it didn't escalate too much and ended really nicely. I also liked that there was a pony with a wheelchair, and of course I like it even more now that I know it was a Make a Wish deal. I liked his desogn and his colors, too. In hindsight I see what some of you are saying about the colors being too bold or off or whatever, but I still like it.

Admittedly the story was not the most exciting thing ever, and it was all a bit predictable, etc., but I absolutely love "a day in the life" style stuff. It just makes me happy.

But you know what the absolute best thing about this was for me? Get ready for it... RAINBOW DASH! :awesomedash: It's no big secret that she's the only one of the Mane Six that I'm not super crazy about (frankly, most of the time I think she's just kind of a bad person), but in this episode I thought she was totally a-ok. It was great. I mean, sure, she kind of sold Fluttershy, but she almost immediately realized what she did and did whatever she had to to make it right. And to top it off, she got Fluttershy her bird call! I was so proud of her. :allears:
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Postby Wylie (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:01 am

ThunderBunny wrote:It's no big secret that she's the only one of the Mane Six that I'm not super crazy about (frankly, most of the time I think she's just kind of a bad person)

...

I was so proud of her. :allears:


When you have a show that can make people feel proud of characters they do not like, what you have there is a good damn show. :twiright:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:52 am

It really shows the high quality of the writing when you manage to feel these emotions about the characters.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:04 am


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Is this thing supposed to be the Pony equivalent of a Japanese Daruma doll?

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Postby Tears (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:16 am

ThunderBunny wrote: I have to agree that I'm really tired of the writers forcing us to do the whole AJ & Rarity thing over and over, but I'm glad it didn't escalate too much and ended really nicely.


On the AJ and Rarity over & over thing, that was... what, the third time ever? :rariwhat:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:18 am

Yeah, I think the whole Applejack and Rarity conflict has only been done about 3 or 4 times throughout the entire show. It's not like it happens everytime they meet.
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Postby Venusy (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:02 am

Well, it is given fairly significant prominence in the episodes where it's featured, including earlier this season. I can see some people wanting a look at the conflicts that haven't been seen before or haven't been given as much focus. :pinkieshrug:

It does make a lot of sense to set AJ and Rarity against one another though - they have a lot in common (entrepreneurs with family ties), but it's very easy to create conflicts from all the ways in which they differ.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:28 am

Scuderia Ferrarity wrote:Image
~SHLOOP!~


I loved how the oatburgers instantly turned the bags all greasy. Clearly based on Five Guys. :gotcha:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:49 am

Humans can't digest hay very well, but we can definitely eat oats. What I'm saying is that I expect someone to start selling oatburgers at Bronycon this year. :gotcha:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:07 am

I hope they're as greasy as they are in the show. :allears:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:10 am

With all that grease, I'm imagining that those patties are somewhere between hushpuppies and falafel.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:12 am

Also

Scuderia Ferrarity wrote:I wonder what would have happened if Rainbow actually got her book?

:awesomedash: :"I can't wait to read it on the ride home!"
:sheepish: :"Y'know, mint conditions first editions aren't exactly for reading."
:awkward: :"Why not?!"
:shock: :"AUGH! Well what you just did there brought the condition from 'mint' to 'very fine'"
:saddash: :"I just opened it!"
:twiright: :"Book collecting is a very careful and demanding hobby."
:offendash: :"What the heck is a book good for if you can't-"
:twonk: :"Rainbow! Careful!"
:v: :"Whoops!"
:-/ :"Oh kayyy, that book is now graded 'Fair' at best."
:rainbert: :"Seems fair that I should read it! You're not the princess of me!"
R-R-R-R-RIP!
:facehoof: You know what, Rainbow? Go ahead, read the book.


This is great, but I doubt anything will ever match Blood of the Father, Heart of Steel :awesomedash:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:15 pm

I agree with Dashie. Like a misfit toy, a book is never happy unless it's being read and enjoyed. :3:
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:04 pm

Yea I only own a couple fancy display books, and they're only of books I love and own like five different copies of.
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:22 pm

Tears wrote:
On the AJ and Rarity over & over thing, that was... what, the third time ever? :rariwhat:

True. It's just such a boring theme to me that more than once FEELS like over and over.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:42 pm

If When Applejack and Rarity do get mashed together again in the future, I'd like to see more focus on their similarities instead of their differences. Like, they're the only two of the Mane Six to be native to Ponyville. Surely the show could do something with that?
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:51 pm

^^^ I totally agree. They are also the only two business owners of the Mane Six and are extremely hard-working. Being two of my favorite ponies, I'd really like to see other dynamics of their friendship explored. I feel like they've had to learn the "we are very different, and that's ok" lesson plenty enough times for them to move on from it now.
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Postby Tears (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:36 pm

ThunderBunny wrote:True. It's just such a boring theme to me that more than once FEELS like over and over.


I get that, and you're totally entitled to your opinion, sorry :modesty:

Anyways, I wasn't feeling the episode at first, but once everyone got paired off it was super-fun and I enjoyed it a lot.

Fluts and Dashie's storyline was adorable. It felt incredibly sisterly, like when Dash tells Fluts to guard the hen stand and Fluttershy tries her best but you know. And then Dash rolls her eyes and fixes things, and then tells Fluttershy to head over at her own pace while she guards the stand, and Fluttershy nods like "yes, this is best." They just know each other really well and it's really familial and :3:

And agreed with Opposing Farce on Dash agreeing to send Flutters on a dog-training trip, she just got the "twenty seconds before the auction closes on eBay" tunnel vision, and then immediately realises what she's done after.

Twilight and Pinkie was cool too, and agreed with Ragnar on that. Pinkie doesn't really want/not want a better deal for Twilight's books, she just likes doing stuff.

Rarity and AJ was great to start with, and at the finish, but I felt like it was really treading water at the "you take it! no you take it!" bit. I guess it was partially to facilitate the visual gag of Fluttershy and Rainbow going back and forth in the background, which was pretty funny and also foregrounded the sense of these stories all taking place at the same time, but I feel like he could have written more lines for it maybe? It was a weird piece of dead space that didn't need to be if the dialogue had moved on, or had a little more spark.

All the arguments about the perceived value of antiques and the different ways AJ and Rarity fetishise antiquity were fun: like, AJ over-values the usefulness of that pie tin because it is from history, and Rarity likes old jewellery because it is older, which is exactly the same reason I browse antique cufflinks on eBay so I get you, Rares*.

And Rarity psyching out AJ in her own game when AJ was trying to prove a point by shuffling the boraches around was great.

And their end-point was a great mix of snarky and loving

:vogue: I got you the oldest most dented piece of slag metal garbage I could find, you gullible farmer

:twasnothin: Well I got you this piece of tacky costume jewellery that's exactly like all the other identical pieces you own and don't wear, you shallow pseud

:wink: :hilarious: We love each other




*also antique cufflinks are often very nice and cost way less than high street cufflinks, even though the old ones might be art deco pieces of jade and new ones might be in the shape of an iPhone and a football. Cufflink politics.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:43 pm

Tears wrote:Fluttershy tries her best but you know.
Everything you said was amazing, but especially this. Holy moley. :hug:

Also fuck cufflink politics. :ohrarity: I'm lucky to have a couple pairs that go well with everything, what with how stupidly inflated and garish they have been getting.
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Postby Tears (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:25 pm

Aramek wrote:
Also fuck cufflink politics. :ohrarity: I'm lucky to have a couple pairs that go well with everything, what with how stupidly inflated and garish they have been getting.


As far as stores seem to be concerned, the only people who buy cufflinks are wideboy stockbrokers who enjoy cars, beer or sports, and want their cufflinks to reflect that. The best you can hope for is plain, and even then there'll probably be some tacky strip of faux-amethyst running down the middle or something, it's a terrible injustice :ohrarity:
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:48 pm

This was an adorable episode and I loved a lot of it. Plus, it's really great that the Make-a-Wish people could make their bit happen.

Also, this episode was basically conventions: and vendor hall: the episode. :gotcha:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:52 pm

kefkafloyd wrote:Also, this episode was basically conventions: and vendor hall: the episode. :gotcha:

Were any of your customers messier than a two-headed dog with a drooling problem?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:52 pm

kefkafloyd wrote:This was an adorable episode and I loved a lot of it. Plus, it's really great that the Make-a-Wish people could make their bit happen.

Also, this episode was basically conventions: and vendor hall: the episode. :gotcha:


Alright, fess up, how many people have you taken in payment for your art? :-/
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:01 pm

None, although I did once accept a box of Cheez-It.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:03 pm

Opened? Un-opened? Original or special flavor? DETAILS!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:07 pm

Would you have accepted Cheese Nips in the same deal? Please say you wouldn't.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:32 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Would you have accepted Cheese Nips in the same deal? Please say you wouldn't.


If you knew me, you would know the answer to this. :gotcha:

Cheese Nips are evil and bad. If someone offered them to me I would tell them that their taste for cheese flavored crackers is bad and that they should feel bad.

Opened? Un-opened? Original or special flavor? DETAILS!


An unopened box of regular Cheez-It.
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Postby Heather Breckel (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:34 am

I would have made the person pay me if they tried to pass off Cheese Nips as Cheezits. It's not the same!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:42 am

:rariwhat: what are cheese nips?
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:45 am

Man, so many questions are so easily googlable. :-I
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:59 am

Tears wrote:
I get that, and you're totally entitled to your opinion, sorry :modesty:

*also antique cufflinks are often very nice and cost way less than high street cufflinks, even though the old ones might be art deco pieces of jade and new ones might be in the shape of an iPhone and a football. Cufflink politics.

No apology necessary. :party:

And your comments on cufflinks were quite interesting to me, for whatever reason.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:48 am

The Doctor wrote::rariwhat: what are cheese nips?


Compressed rectangles of Cheeto dust.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:01 am

I prefer cheese nips, but all snacks are like ashes in my mouth ever since they discontinued Doo Dads

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Postby Weird Autumn (?) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 3:08 am

kefkafloyd wrote:
Compressed rectangles of Cheeto dust.

Cheeto dust is gross but disconcertingly addictive, Cheese Nips are just bad.
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