S05E20: The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows

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S05E20: The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:07 pm

Pinkie Pie struggles to keep a secret that involves Princess Cadance and Shining Armor.


This thread is for discussion of this episode. The episode airs at 11:30 AM Eastern / 8:30 AM Pacific on Saturday, October 17!

Official preview clips and images are okay to post, as is speculation about the episode.

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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:10 pm

Hmm, pregnancy? :smirk:

Also, shouldn't this be episode 19?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:14 pm

Where did the idea of Cadance's pregnancy come from, anyway? Is it just based wholly on that S5 cast poster that was (partially) released midway through the season? It'd be a pretty big deal if Cadance and Shining Armor are actually to have a child, but considering how big a deal it was for the CMC to get their cutie marks last week, I'm honestly not sure what's on or off the table anymore.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:17 pm

Honestly, I have no idea where it came from. I just saw the title and the blurb and though that. :-I
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:21 pm

There's that Princess Skyla doll released years ago, and it does look like a baby carriage on the S5 poster.


Feels like they don't want to actually develop Cadance and Shining Armor's characters at all so they figure giving them a prop is enough. :-/
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Postby Discord (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:23 pm

The Doctor wrote:There's that Princess Skyla doll released years ago, and it does look like a baby carriage on the S5 poster.


Feels like they don't want to actually develop Cadance and Shining Armor's characters at all so they figure giving them a prop is enough. :-/


Maybe their development will be that they're terrible parents. :gotcha:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:41 pm

Angel Beat wrote:Hmm, pregnancy? :smirk:

Also, shouldn't this be episode 19?

Zap2it has this listed as ep 20.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:42 pm

Interesting for them to skip 19. :ponder:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 4:58 pm

Also, Meghan hinted at SDCC this year about said pregnancy. I don't see what else it could be.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:02 pm

:-P I've got a secret that nopony knows...

:bluh: Well, nopony but the Cakes, and Ah reckon Princess Cadence and Shining Armor might have some idea.

:party: I've got a secret that only four other ponies know...

:unenthused: 30 seconds down, 21 and a half minutes to go.
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:07 pm

Have they swapped them? I thought this was next week.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:15 pm

This is me about all this:
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Postby Octavia (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:27 pm

They named the episode title like a Friends episode. :fluttershock:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:41 pm

Really going to screw with established canon and AKR's book if they have an Alicorn for a baby...
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:02 pm

The Doctor wrote:Really going to screw with established canon and AKR's book if they have an Alicorn for a baby...

There's no way that'll happen. I think the Skyla toy was only an alicorn because it came out sometime around late 2011/early 2012 and Hasbro didn't yet have all that sorted out story-wise.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:47 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Where did the idea of Cadance's pregnancy come from, anyway?

Young married couple has a secret + this is television.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:57 pm

So theory I'm having, Pinkie's only asked to make sure Twilight doesn't find out the secret. So she winds up telling everyone else instead. But either because she forgot to mention that Twilight isn't supposed to know, or other ponies just aren't as good at keeping secrets, Pinkie has to keep track of everypony that Twilight interacts with in order to make sure she doesn't find out.

The Doctor wrote:Really going to screw with established canon and AKR's book if they have an Alicorn for a baby...

How does it contradict established canon and Rogers book? Rogers book actually suggests that there's natural born alicorns. And Cadence is an alicorn now, so she could conceive a child that's an alicorn as well.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:12 pm

So you're saying it's not inconceivable? :smirk:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:29 pm

To attempt to guess something other than "We're preggers!" :allright: I'm going to submit something ten times more hilarious:

Horse Divorce.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:30 pm

Imagine if Chrissy was somehow able to magically transform the unborn foal into a Changeling...now there's a plot twist. :evil:

:here: Congratulations...it's a larva!

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Postby Applepie (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:56 pm

This will be another big one, so let's see if it is Skyla. And after a while Shining and Cadence will have bigger roles again.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 8:53 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:Young married couple has a secret + this is television.

"We've devoted our lives to missionary work!"
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:19 pm

So we might finally get to see baby Princess Skyla.
And watch the category 5 shit storm unfold because of it. *Get's popcorn ready just in case* :gotcha:
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Postby Applepie (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:35 pm

Imagine if Chrissy was somehow able to magically transform the unborn foal into a Changeling...now there's a plot twist.


That makes me think of Princess Larva,

Pinkie Pie: So, you see this here? This, um, this is um, a big, round room. It's known for its roundness, and bigness, and did I mention that it's round?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:58 pm

Aramek wrote:To attempt to guess something other than "We're preggers!" :allright: I'm going to submit something ten times more hilarious:

Horse Divorce.

Cadance and Shining Armor are royal celebrities. If they got divorced, I can't imagine how nuts the Equestrian tabloids would go over that. (It'd be rather strange, too, considering that their love for each other was so strong that it got rid of Chrysalis and her army way back when.)
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:02 pm

Marimo wrote:How does it contradict established canon and Rogers book? Rogers book actually suggests that there's natural born alicorns. And Cadence is an alicorn now, so she could conceive a child that's an alicorn as well.


Well, Celestia and Luna are from an entire race of nearly immortal Alicorns. Cadance was a Pegasus and by all accounts ages normally. For me at least, the show has pretty well implied that Cadance and Twilight are not the same as Celestia and Luna.

That being said, I assume it will be an Alicorn. The Princess of Marketing has a Marketing baby. :gotcha:
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Postby Marimo (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:54 am

The Doctor wrote:
Well, Celestia and Luna are from an entire race of nearly immortal Alicorns. Cadance was a Pegasus and by all accounts ages normally. For me at least, the show has pretty well implied that Cadance and Twilight are not the same as Celestia and Luna.

That being said, I assume it will be an Alicorn. The Princess of Marketing has a Marketing baby. :gotcha:

I still don't think it would contradict canon, since we have no precedent to say whether a newborn baby alicorn from someone like Cadence would retain its mothers mortality or gained the same perks from natural born alicorns like Celestia and Luna and be near immortal.

And I don't know if marketing would be the ones who would make it an alicorn considering they only ever made one toy of Skyla, and that was several years ago. I'm pretty sure they don't even keep her toy in stock anymore.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:18 am

I think those toys were mostly just leftovers from the Newborn Cuties days. Skyla's head certainly had some of the Newborn Cuties look to it, at least:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:20 am

If I were a betting man, I'd say it's an Alicorn, but not Skyla. And it will be a male.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:30 am

Prince Leon?

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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:33 am

Chances of a "FOREVERRRR" callback are high.



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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:51 am

The secret is that the Crystal Empire is planning a military invasion of Canterlot and that Cadance plans to become the new supreme Princess.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:13 am

As soon as I saw this title I thought of this old timey Vaudeville performer:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_(magician)




MADAME PINKIE PIE
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:amazing: :"The sphere of destiny has shown me a vision of the future! ... Twilight!"

:shock: :"Buhuh?"

:amazing: :"Youuuuuu shall be referred to as 'Auntie Twilight' or more specifically - 'My Weird Auntie Princess Twilight Sparkle!"
:lol: :"I can't wait for that to happen!"

:amazing: :"And spiiiiike! You shall be called 'Unkie' Spike!"
:yikes: :"I'm too young to be someone's 'unkie'!"
:amazing: :"The spheres have spoken! I am but a channel for knowledge ... From The Beyond!"
:facehoof: :"All right, I get it!"
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:16 am

Marimo wrote:Prince Leon?

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I hear he's pretty Great.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:19 pm

Have a teaser image:

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Postby Aramek (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:26 pm

Dat lip fuzz!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:17 pm

That picture makes me think of the bit in Bridle Gossip where Pinkie Pie was confessing to how many corn cakes she ate.
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Postby Chronos30 (?) » Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:33 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:That picture makes me think of the bit in Bridle Gossip where Pinkie Pie was confessing to how many corn cakes she ate.


It is, exactly. Lip weirdness and all. (5 secs in)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MVQ4KL3Su8

They never said in the post it was from the new episode.

Also it could be, lazy asset re-use etc.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:12 am

I like how most of the fans tend to, um, I'm not even sure what to call it. Over dramatize their speculations? Over reach the show's expectations? Either way I'm sure it will turn out cute and innocent like Pinkie just has to keep the secret about a surprise party or something. She gets really excited about parties so having to restrain herself about telling others about one might be really hard on her.

Remember what happened last time someone involved Pinkie in a surprise party? Remember that day? Yeah, we don't talk about that day, do we? :-P
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Postby Baron Porkface (?) » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:54 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Where did the idea of Cadance's pregnancy come from, anyway? .



Babies are a traditional part of MLP, that's where.



It would be a baller comeback if it's named "Baby Cadance"
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