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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 6:22 pm

Not sure if anyone's wondering what Merriwether Williams is up to, but she wrote and co-executive produced a pilot on Amazon called "Toasty Tales". It's a 2d Hand Drawn show mixed with stop motion backgrounds, and is produced by the same people that does "Robot Chicken", although it's aimed at kids.

Despite the Robot Chicken connection, it's actually pretty cute, and the drawn animation is very nicely done. If you're in the 'States, you can watch the pilot for free
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 7:40 pm

Between this and that Apple & Onion pilot for CN, I wonder what inspired this recent trend of food-based cartoon characters.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:10 pm

And she made the conscience decision to leave ponies for toasties? Because... reasons?
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:19 pm

Can't really blame her since she's been on Bronies hithe list since her first episode.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:12 am

Oh right, forgot about the public backlash and all.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:16 am

Which episode(s) was hers?

Also is there a link to that show? Tried searching and I find a youtuber playing badlands, and marshmallows singing she'll be coming around the mountain
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:24 am

Sailor Yue wrote:Which episode(s) was hers?

Also is there a link to that show? Tried searching and I find a youtuber playing badlands, and marshmallows singing she'll be coming around the mountain

There's a link in my post.

The episodes Merriwether Williams wrote are:

2011:
The Mysterious Mare Do Well
Hearth's Warming Eve

2012:
Putting Your Hoof Down
Dragon Quest
Wonderbolts Academy
Spike at Your Service

2013:
Bats!
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:45 am

But those are good episodes? :bwuh:
Only one remotely terrible was Spike at your service....

I'll check it out later... didn't see it on the maude theme. :-I
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:24 am

MDW to this day is still widely considered the worst episode of the show. At the time it was one of the very few episodes with serious out of character issues. That first impression never really went away...
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:42 am

It, along with Owl's Well That Ends Well, was also one of the first episodes that revolved around a main character fucking up a whole bunch for reasons that weren't especially sympathetic. (Compare to A Bird in the Hoof; Fluttershy fucked up a bunch there, but it was because she wanted to help Philomena, whereas Rainbow Dash and Spike were being more selfish in those episodes.) I think fuckups like that tend to easily sour viewers.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:54 am

I still consider mdw a pretty OK episode. Prefer it over spike at your service , or over the barrel. I dispise over the barrel for so many reasons.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:04 am

Putting Your Hoof Down was great for sure.

But the others ranged from bad to meh, I think. HWE and Bats had redeeming qualities (worldbuilding & acting / the Bats' song) but those had nothing to do with the writing.

I got nothing against Merriwether though, but yeah can't say her episodes were great.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:22 pm

By the time Bats! came along, it seemed to me like she was finally getting a proper feel for FiM's tone and how (not) to use its characters. It's a bit of a pity that she didn't write any more episodes after that.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:02 pm

I like Bats!. The song in there felt erratic like it was trying to match music to the visual movements of bats which in my opinion is a clever way to do the it.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:10 pm

My problem with Bats is it seems kind of muddled. It starts off like it's going to have an environmentalist message, with all the ponies peer pressuring Fluttershy and the message that the bats are better off for the farm in the long term (work with nature, don't fight it). But the ponies have a valid point that they need the food in the short term and they're not trying to kill the bats, just keep them from eating the apples until a solution can be found.

It was still a fun episode, and Flutterbat was awesome. But it always felt to me like there was supposed to be more there that never quite came together.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:12 pm

I feel like that is preciously the point. In life there are hardly any universal answers that appeals to everyone equally, everyone has their own point of view and opinions in everything. We have a situation were both sides are right, and the characters have to come to a middle ground to reach a solution. I have a better understanding of these kinds of situations being a vegan and all. It resonates better with me.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:02 pm

Soft Snow wrote:I feel like that is preciously the point. In life there are hardly any universal answers that appeals to everyone equally, everyone has their own point of view and opinions in everything. We have a situation were both sides are right, and the characters have to come to a middle ground to reach a solution. I have a better understanding of these kinds of situations being a vegan and all. It resonates better with me.
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I agree that that's a good thing, but my point was more that it felt like the episode was trying to have a point and botching that (as opposed to the point being that sometimes things aren't just black and white). Like it got rewritten too much and lost its overall message.

But maybe that's just me.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 11:09 pm

Yeah. I was expecting, from the setup, to see Fluttershy and Applejack butt heads over their conflicting needs and motivations wrt nature. Flutters wants coexistence, AJ wants to make a living and feed the town. And it seemed like it might have been going that way for a bit, and it would have been interesting, but the episode a) never made it explicit that that was the conflict, and b) veered away from it into a mystery story.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:47 am

MMDW will always be cool, if for no other reason that it gave this this amazing thing:

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:24 pm

The S2 rewatch continues tonight! And relevant to this conversation, the first episode on tonight's set is Putting Your Hoof Down, another Merriwether Williams piece. Be in the Pasture at 7:30 Eastern!

I also just realized that at this pace, I'll be showing ACW on July 7, right in the middle of the usual Thursday night ponygoon party pre-Bronycon.

Edit: Tonight's show might be delayed a bit again. I'll post when it starts.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:37 pm

S2 rewatch continuing now, get in! http://octagonalpasture.com/r/sereneplural
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:31 am

Dammit I missed Hurricane Fluts didn't I

arrrrrrgh :-P
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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:09 am

I keep forgetting about this!!!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:20 am

Wayoshi wrote:Dammit I missed Hurricane Fluts didn't I

arrrrrrgh :-P

Yes, it was. I had been hoping you'd make it tonight.

In the Pasture chat during the show, I'd been saying that the back half of S2 actually reminded me a fair bit of S4's tone. Tonight's set (PYHD, It's About Time, Dragon Quest, Hurricane Fluttershy) all felt like they were the show's first major attempts at something grander, like baby steps after Lauren Faust let the show go halfway through that season. S3 didn't do much in that vein of growth and experimentation (which I blame on a combination of the short length of the season and an apparently rushed production schedule, as well as large amounts of meddling from Hasbro's toymakers), but S4 was back at it, and by S5 it seemed like Meghan and the gang had really figured out where the show should keep going. And now here we are in what I still feel is the best season yet.

Damn, this show's been on for a long time.
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Postby VGAddict (?) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 3:58 pm

Now that the hiatus is upon us, how would you rate S6 so far?

I would say it’s hit and miss. On one hand, I liked Gauntlet of Fire, Hearth’s Warming Tail, and Saddle Row Review. I think Saddle Row Review is one of the best episodes of the show. On the other hand, I didn’t like Newbie Dash, Applejack’s Day Off, or On Your Marks.

One thing I will say positive about the season are the great new characters. Sunburst, Princess Ember, and Plaid Stripes are all great.

Another positive is the characterization of Spike. He finally had an episode that the majority of fans agree is good, and he’s been excellent in supporting roles, like The Crystalling and Hearth’s Warming Tail. Best of all, he isn’t the butt monkey he was in past seasons, save for Newbie Dash. I especially liked his friendship with Starlight in the premiere.

However, I can’t believe how hard the season has dropped the ball with the "Explore Equestria" theme. So far, we’ve mostly been seeing locations we’ve already seen numerous times. The only relatively new location was the dragon lands. I felt this was also a problem with the map in S5. You have an entire map of Equestria, with lots of new locations to explore, but you don’t use it.

Another problem is the unbalanced number of episodes a character gets. There’s been too much Rarity and Starlight for my liking.

On the topic of Starlight, I don’t like how they keep bringing up Starlight’s past every time she appears. It was funny the first time, but now it’s just annoying. Say what you want about Discord’s reformation, at least they didn’t feel the need to constantly bring up his past actions.

Overall, while there have been good episodes, it’s not up to par with previous seasons. It’s pretty obvious that the show is suffering from the veteran writers leaving (Larson, McCarthy, AKR).

What do you think of S6 so far? What do you like about it, and what don’t you?
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Postby Bremen (?) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:05 pm

VGAddict wrote:Now that the hiatus is upon us, how would you rate S6 so far?


You actually just missed this a few pages back.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:01 am

Was greatly saddened today to hear of the passing of well-known community musician MelodicPony at the shockingly young age of 27. Story here.

I've posted about his work here before, which I'll link below. He'll be greatly missed.

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MelodicPony does incredible work. All four of his/her show-inspired tracks are just beautiful; they retain enough of Will's work to be a great credit to him, while also showcasing how incredibly talented Melodic is.

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Now I have to listen to all of them again.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:08 pm

The S2 rewatch is continuing tonight at 7:30 Eastern on the Pasture. This might be a bit late, of course, since I'm still at my grandfather's house and thus my plans could change. But hopefully I'll be able to start it on time!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:24 pm

Well, things did change and I'm going to have to cancel tonight. Sorry. There's always next week!
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:49 am

Oh, what a relief, I was late messing around with phone stuff. My phone wouldn't turn on, I took the battery out and put it back in twice, nothing happened. I sent to the phone store, waited for an hour, I swear they are the new DMV because there was only two people in front of me, and the guy just popped it out and put it back in and it worked fine. On a plus side, I got a new contract for more data for less pay. Then after that we went out for smoothies. I got the Blimey Limey flavor. :allears: I thought I would be able to make it back in time for the last episode at least but it was cancelled. I didn't want to disappoint senpai.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:33 am

Looking back at past episodes, it seems I was wrong about the schedule. The last episode last week was Hurricane Fluttershy, so I would have actually run the last four episodes of S2 today, not next week. Oh well, I guess we're still on track to see ACW next week, given how things turned out! :conftoot:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:52 pm

For those who don't check the Spoilers subforum, new episodes will resume on August 6.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:10 pm

That is forever in Soft Snow years!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:14 pm

It's just a month and a few days from now, really. I'm honestly surprised that Discovery Family wants to start it back so soon.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:26 pm

Soft Snow wrote:That is forever in Soft Snow years!



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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:55 pm

Time tends to fly so it's gonna be here super soon. Like people on Facebook saying a week to Connecticon is forever but for me it'll be here faster than Chitika Fastpaws.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:43 am

Maybe I can freeze myself in ice then thaw in the future in time for the show to start back up?
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:02 am

You mean an entire month?
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:58 am

I know the risks. The future I will emerge into will be completely different and alien in concept to me. But it will mean a great stride for science... and a lot less waiting time for more ponies!
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:29 am

I was expecting them to be back in September, so hooray! :pinkietoot:
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