S05E05: Tanks For The Memories

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Re: S05E05: Tanks For The Memories

Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 7:56 pm

I think what surprised me the most about that scene is that the episode spent a whole 30 seconds on what is essentially a non sequitur joke when viewed in context of the rest of the story. Doing that, especially with background ponies, is rather unusual for FiM.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:01 pm

^It was kinda random but it set up Dash potentially succeeding at stopping winter while they're goofing around

Finally the fresh page

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pony walk the pony

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Expect rest soon
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:02 pm

:whatsup: Rainbow Dash, here's a loaner pet for winter!

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Postby Wylie (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:05 pm

Wayoshi wrote:^
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How many legs is Tank hiding in that shell?

Edit: Oh, I see, the perspective is off. Those are both back legs.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:06 pm

I'm only seeing four. Maybe you're looking at his tail, too?
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:18 pm

Tank has the most epic yawn, by the way. :3:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:36 pm

A part of me wonders how the Abbott and Costello routine will be translated in other languages.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:39 pm

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:lol: This might top "Namby Pamby was a great editor" as the show's best joke.

Is it just me, or does Open Sky's voice sounds like Lou Costello's?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 8:50 pm

Bakertoons wrote:Is it just me, or does Open Sky's voice sounds like Lou Costello's?

Ponyville must've called in the Manehattan team to help out.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:03 pm

It was an ok episode. Dash was.. Well Dash.

Though at this point which of the Six haven't had a complete mental breakdown? I guess you get a free pass if you save the land a bunch...
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:06 pm

Captain Rufus wrote:Dash was.. Well Dash.
A cool pony who is awesome and good at everything, I agree.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:11 pm

Da rest

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Image <-- Let's Go
Image <-- Discovering group crying :whatsup:

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Damn you watermark for real

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:17 pm

:saddershy: Even burying him in the sand at the end. This could have been a Tank Death episode and almost nothing would change.

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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 9:29 pm

As someone who lost a pet not too long ago, the end hit me right in the feels.
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:18 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Also, everyone else uses the door.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:28 pm

Let It Go, Dash. :v:
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Postby Ransom (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:31 pm

It's cool that Spike has his own room now. :here:
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:32 pm

Biggest surprise was Dash saying it's their first winter... it's been less than a year since Find a Pet... :starity:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:43 pm

Sailor Yue wrote:Biggest surprise was Dash saying it's their first winter... it's been less than a year since Find a Pet... :starity:

While it's rather difficult to place all the episodes within a single season in a coherent timeline, I wonder if Meghan and the gang are at least now trying to clarify FiM's chronology and series of events. PaulloDEC has been trying to put together a proper timeline for everything that's happened, so it'd be interesting to see what he thinks of this.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:47 pm

Well, there are really only three options.

-Episodes are not in order. This would be supported by "May the Best Pet Win" coming before "Hearths Warming Eve"

-Very little time has passed in Equestria. Problem with this mostly comes from then having to figure that Twilight's journey to becoming a Princess was only a few months long.

-Equestria operates on the Game of Thrones logic. Seasons come whenever the hell they (the Pegasi) feel like it. Doesn't really explain Hearths Warming Ever, though one can just jokingly go with "Cloudsdale felt like screwing with everypony"
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Postby everyponytothelimit (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:48 pm

Sailor Yue wrote:Biggest surprise was Dash saying it's their first winter... it's been less than a year since Find a Pet... :starity:


A year passed: winter changed into spring, spring changed into summer, summer changed back into winter, and winter gave spring and summer a miss and went straight on into autumn... until one day...
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Postby Doctor Wheeze (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:26 pm

The Doctor wrote:-Equestria operates on the Game of Thrones logic. Seasons come whenever the hell they (the Pegasi) feel like it. Doesn't really explain Hearths Warming Ever, though one can just jokingly go with "Cloudsdale felt like screwing with everypony"

Maybe they just turned on winter for a day, for the holiday. Or maybe it was just winter in Canterlot :ponder:
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:28 pm

That sure was a lot of crying :wowzers:
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Postby ScionVyse (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:30 pm

I might assume that winter doesn't always come at the same time every year, leading to some years being longer without winter, and some being shorter, considering Cloudsdale apparently physically goes to each area to bring winter. If say, some places are in need of winter more than others, Cloudsdale might go there first, and reach others later. I dunno.
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Postby MochaBean (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:48 pm

That was the most :ponydrugs: episode of :ponydrugs: we've had in a long while, I loved it. :awesomedash: The return of mischievous Dash is always welcome.



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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:52 pm

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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:05 am

Fantastic episode, loved it from start to finish. So much great comedy, and a really solid, in-character story for Dash.

Fizzbuzz wrote:While it's rather difficult to place all the episodes within a single season in a coherent timeline, I wonder if Meghan and the gang are at least now trying to clarify FiM's chronology and series of events. PaulloDEC has been trying to put together a proper timeline for everything that's happened, so it'd be interesting to see what he thinks of this.


I think I'm sticking with my original approach, which is basically to not even attempt to order individual episodes. It says a lot that we're only just now, in Season 5, getting a fix on how much time has passed since Season 2. We might get the occasional hint but there's just too little information to go on, especially when things were more fluid (and probably in no logical order) back in the earlier seasons.

I mean, it probably would be possible to order the episodes in a way that makes some degree of sense, but the amount of combing through scripts for relevant dialogue (and then cross-checking for continuity clashes) that it'd require seems well beyond my patience.
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Postby Discord (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:49 am

That was a riot :lol:

This was definitely a " let's go crazy" kind of episode and it delivered hard on the laughs.

It was a fun ride. It didn't really engage me on the feels, but I loved it all the same.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:56 am

The Doctor wrote:-Very little time has passed in Equestria. Problem with this mostly comes from then having to figure that Twilight's journey to becoming a Princess was only a few months long.


It's not that bad, actually. For instance, we know that both the first episode and the Season 4 opener happened at the Summer Sun Celebration, and since Twilight wasn't an Alicorn during May the Best Pet Win, that gives a basic timeline:

Year 1, Summer: Friendship is Magic 1&2
Year 1, Winter: Winter Wrap Up, Hearth's Warming Eve
Year 2, Spring: May the Best Pet Win, The Crystal Empire (Assumed; there's snow in the empire in this episode, but later episodes have it bright and green)
Year 2, Summer: Magical Mystery Cure, Princess Twilight Sparkle
Year 2, Winter: Tanks for the Memories

So Twilight's journey of learning the magic of friendship and becoming a princess appears to have taken slightly less than a year. A busy year, to be sure, but it doesn't seem completely beyond the question to me. Plus I think it makes the CMC's situation more sensible, since if multiple years had passed they should be well on their way to being blank flank adults :gotcha:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 1:15 am

Bremen wrote:
It's not that bad, actually. For instance, we know that both the first episode and the Season 4 opener happened at the Summer Sun Celebration, and since Twilight wasn't an Alicorn during May the Best Pet Win, that gives a basic timeline:

Year 1, Summer: Friendship is Magic 1&2
Year 1, Winter: Winter Wrap Up, Hearth's Warming Eve
Year 2, Spring: May the Best Pet Win, The Crystal Empire (Assumed; there's snow in the empire in this episode, but later episodes have it bright and green)
Year 2, Summer: Magical Mystery Cure, Princess Twilight Sparkle
Year 2, Winter: Tanks for the Memories

So Twilight's journey of learning the magic of friendship and becoming a princess appears to have taken slightly less than a year. A busy year, to be sure, but it doesn't seem completely beyond the question to me. Plus I think it makes the CMC's situation more sensible, since if multiple years had passed they should be well on their way to being blank flank adults :gotcha:


Orrr....

Year 1 : FiM S1, including Winter 1 - Winter Wrap Up
Year 2 : HWE -> May the Best Pet
Year 3 - Tanks for the memories hits here.

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Postby everyponytothelimit (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:09 am

Year 1: Everything up to and including Winter Wrap up
Year 2: Nothing happens until Fall Weather Friends. Then nothing else.
Year 3: Everything from FWF to Hearthswarming Eve.
Year 4: Everything after that.

Gala tickets are so prized they are given out years in advance.
Rainbow never noticed Tank hibernating because whenever it came up she was on vacation in... let's say Haywaii.

This makes perfect sense.

or well technically WWU would be in spring year 2 but you get my point.

this is not a serious timeline
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Postby Weird Autumn (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:05 am

-You know, Tank's kind of barely been around ever since May the Best Pet Win. He's shown up a couple of times but up until now he mostly seems to just come out when they're doing "oh look its everybody's pets" scenes. "Tanks for the Memories" is a rather ominous title, though. (Please note I didn't actually read the synopsis so I'm not entirely sure what to expect.)
-It hasn't been a full year since May the Best Pet Win? I know the chronology of this show is super-loose and, you know, that's cool, but hasn't a whole lot of shit happened since then?
-Oh, it's a hibernation episode. Weird how that's kind of a trope unto itself. At least "you know he's not a bear, right?" is a more believable kind of ignorance than the more obvious "what does hibernation mean?" explain-the-vocab-word beat.
-Dash has as much faith in scientists as the Insane Clown Posse.
-Domestic animals often have needs that contradict what a human might expect or desire from them, and a responsible pet owner makes sure their needs are filled regardless. A Good Cartoon.
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-My extremely cursory Wiki-based research suggests a tortoise and a dragon probably would both be in the class reptilia, but they'd be in completely different orders and not even close to the same family. I'm sure somebody's already pointed this out.
-Dash you're kind of an idiot.
-I basically haven't slept in a week so going to hibernate actually sounds like a pretty sweet deal. I'm almost surprised Pinkie didn't take her up on it.
-Dash is going to steal Christmas and I am all for it.
-I appreciate the who's on first routine but man what a bizarre, unnatural scene.
-Why is she putting the clouds in the trees? Can't she just kick them out of existence?
-It is kind of cool that we're seeing the other end of Winter Wrap-Up.
-This season's been pretty heavy on songs so far.
-I know Dash is weather captain and all but I'm still surprised the other weatherpegasi fell for that ∞ ruse.
-Some of Dash's poses in the "flying with Tank" sequence are super weird.
-The voices on the background ponies in this episode are also super weird.
-Rainbow Dash in "Overdrawn at the Cloud Bank."
-They finally got to the cloud factory!
-Apparently a bunch of Ponyville pegasi commute to Cloudsdale for work.
-I like that goofy photo on the inside of the locker.
-Rainbow Dash has been more successful than she ever could have hoped for.
-It's a good thing Dash is close personal friends with a princess or else she'd be doing major jail time for this.
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-And then it's 3 A.M> and I'm lyin' in bed
And Pinkie Pie's like, "you're a party pooper!"
And I'm like, "whatever!"
-There's a bunch of stuff to like here: Tank's little Rainbow Dash booties, Fluttershy putting the hoof down, Twilight being all "Applejack you deal with this shit."
-I like how Pinkie Pie and Rarity can watch Dash cry all day but as soon as Fluttershy starts going off it all just cascades.
-"It's true." Okay, that's my favorite moment of the episode.
-Spike's got moves, yo.

I like the morals of this episode, both the one about "sometimes you just need to cry it out and that's okay" and the one about pet care, and "it's true" is one of my favorite gags in a while. Still, there's a couple of things that feel kind of weird and arbitrary and even a little bit sloppy; I realize it's just a show and I should really just relax, but there are a couple of odd things--like how nobody so much as comments on all the damage Dash caused, or the "who's on first bit"--that kind of feel like somebody took the easy way out and just put a scene or a gag or a reference in without doing the legwork to make it feel natural and grounded in the world or the story. And, you know, that's fine, you can point to tons of moments where that kind of thing happens all over the place and it usually doesn't bother me, but in this case, I dunno, it felt a little weird.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:31 am

While I'll normally try to note a Star Trek episode similar to a pony episode, this episode reminded me a lot of the Doctor Who "A Christmas Carol" special. With someone slowly accepting having to let go of a loved one.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:57 am

Yeah, for everything this episode did right, I'm surprised that it didn't re-address Rainbow Dash's destruction of the weather factory. While I certainly don't think she's going to get sent to the moon for it or anything, hopefully she'll at least be off helping to repair it later in the season.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:03 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Yeah, for everything this episode did right, I'm surprised that it didn't re-address Rainbow Dash's destruction of the weather factory. While I certainly don't think she's going to get sent to the moon for it or anything, hopefully she'll at least be off helping to repair it later in the season.

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Postby MochaBean (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:10 am

Next episode:

:wingsright: As you know, Dash won't be joining us on this adventure, what with her court-mandated community service and all.

Meanwhile...

:offendash: Counseling at risk teens? What does that even mean?
:sweet: We spray painted the old folks' home!
:scootawoo: And stole thirty pounds of hay jerky from the convenience store!
:ohboy: I like to burn things!
:awesomedash: I feel so at home...
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:14 am

It's part and parcel with this being far-and-away the cartooniest episode since Feeling Pinkie Keen.

So many scenes and gags that felt like they were lifted straight out of the show's experimental early days; the "Who's On First" thing actually feels oddly natural when you think of it in the context of scenes from S1 like Rarity grousing about why the pegasi can't get their shit together and schedule rainstorms properly, or Philomena turning into an ice cube in Fluttershy's care, or the recurring Yakety Sax/Scooby-Doo hallway gags.

And then there's that brace of scenes that are just achingly eager to be counted in the same league as those classic bits we all love from way back when—particularly the second one, the whole scene in Dash's room where they're all trying to cheer her up. It's like that "crazy cat lady" exchange from Suited For Success writ large and stretched out to fill a whole set piece. And you know what? It's great! From Pinkie bursting through the wall Kool-Aid Man style to Twilight shoving Applejack into the front lines to "It's true" :twasnothin: — this dishing repartee is the other end of the Pony spectrum from the Saturday-morning cartooniness of the Dexter's Lab-esque weather factory destruction scene, and it's what I've been dying to see more of ever since S1 showed us what the show was capable of doing when it wanted to show us these six young ladies awkwardly trying to support each other through their inevitable bouts of neurosis. I thought I was being given more than my fair share of this already just with the first six-way pick-a-little-talk-a-little scene, the whole :offendash: PINKIE PIE AND I ARE JUST HAVING A CONVERSATION bit... but then they gave us the other half of the one-two punch later, which is more than this wicked earth deserves.

That "grown-up" texture interspersed with all the crazy zaniness plus the "Winter Wrap Up 2, by Cindy Morrow" thing make this some serious old-time religion for me. It makes me feel like this show is out to catch me off guard again, to break my expectations over its knee and give me a wet willie just for thinking I knew all its moves.

First episode in a long, long time that I've wanted to rewatch right away just so I could re-experience all the guffaw moments, of which there were many. Such as:

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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:15 am

Sailor Yue wrote:Biggest surprise was Dash saying it's their first winter... it's been less than a year since Find a Pet... :starity:


This really, really makes me think that the Equestrian cycle of seasons doesn't match Earth's in length.

Of course, Equestria also isn't set on a heliocentric planetary system considering it's celestial bodies are literally moved around the planet itself, and it's ecosystem in many places is directly manipulated with magic. The pony-scholar in me gets more curious with every show season about how it'd all come together. I mean, from what limited observation we can draw from the show, Equestrian "months" are possibly 24-day cycles rather than the irregular 28-31 of Earth:

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...or if that's "One month" for two pages, they might even be 48-day months of six eight-day weeks. 48 day months would actually jive pretty decently with the immense amount of time between the winter season ending in S2 and the new one starting as of this episode.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sun Apr 26, 2015 4:16 am

Destroying the cloud factory was just cartoon hijinks. You might as well ask why the Apple family isn't broke from having to rebuild their house every other week.
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