S06E21: Every Little Thing She Does

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Re: S06E21: Every Little Thing She Does

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:01 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:But she's not even part of the show staff anymore. I wonder how she contributed.

Sabrina worked on Season 6 as a storyboard artist. She's credited on "The Crystalling, Part 2" and "A Hearth's Warming Tale".

Season 6 is her last on the show.

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:44 am

DerFurShur wrote:Welp of all the writers this season, Mike might be the best one we have to tackle this.

I've actually been mildly disappointed with Mike's work so far. This could cement him as a low-tier writer for me... but still, we barely know anything about this ep even with the preview.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:22 am

The only episodes of his I didn't like was the Rarity Pinkie one and the cart racing episode but all the others were either okay or good. Just realized he's been on like 7 episodes so far.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:01 pm

Oh Starlight.

I'm going into this one (mostly) blind. :allears:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:26 pm

Angel Beat wrote:I'm going into this one (mostly) blind. :allears:

Well, there isn't really all that much to know about it so far. 28 Pranks Later was the last episode to get anything extra in the way of preview clips beyond the usual one that DF's been tossing us.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:56 pm

I feel like Starlight is what Discord should have been more like. Reformed but still misusing his powers to benefit himself without really realizing it. But it does feel a bit off because Starlight seems more mature then the rest and would have picked up on what to do a lot sooner.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:05 pm

Maturity is relative. I mean, Starlight is obviously good at building a society and getting things done, but that's only when it's according to her terms. Similarly, by age alone Discord should be more mature than anyone else, but he also was so accustomed to always having his way that he's only now learning how to cooperate with others.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:13 am

I haven't watched the preview and I don't know if this is what is literally going to be the plot of the episode (it kinda sounds like it is based on what you guys are saying), but it seems to me like a good concept for a story would be Starlight thinking she's "helping" the Mane 6 by transforming them to take away their character flaws.

It would be a retread in some cases (we've seen FlutterNotShy plenty of times by now), but it might be funny to see Applejack being given an artificial boost in intelligence because Starlight thinks she's stupid or something :iamapony: Or Rainbow Dash with humility, or Pinkie becoming bound by logic, or Rarity genuinely enjoying getting muddy :heehaw:

The point being that those things that make different people different aren't necessarily "flaws", but essential parts of their characters.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:15 am

This looks cool
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 6:43 am

Headless Horse wrote:I haven't watched the preview and I don't know if this is what is literally going to be the plot of the episode (it kinda sounds like it is based on what you guys are saying), but it seems to me like a good concept for a story would be Starlight thinking she's "helping" the Mane 6 by transforming them to take away their character flaws.

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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 10:51 am

Headless Horse wrote:or Pinkie becoming bound by logic


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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 2:35 pm

Wacky Prediction:

Mane 6 don't forgive Starlight at the end of this episode and she leaves town. This episode is a set up for the finale.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:13 pm

Oh no, that would be awful and I'd feel feelings! :saddershy:
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:28 pm

Lol nice joke there.

As for the episode itself I just hope Twilight goes full on Celestia on Starlight.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:32 pm

*blows off horn like an utter badass*

*ACCIDENTALLY CASTS FUCKING ULTIMA*
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:37 pm

"NO ENSLAVING"
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:40 pm

Lazytown reference. Do a shot.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:40 pm

LAZYTOWN REF!
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:42 pm

Aramek wrote:"NO ENSLAVING"

Oops.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:42 pm

"Starlight Glimmer did nothing wrong." - Aramek.

Just saying this now and gonna see if I stick to it.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:48 pm

Predator reference. Do a shot.
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Postby drunkill (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:50 pm

"It needs to be at least.... 3 times bigger."
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:51 pm

Applejack has...a lot of stories
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:51 pm

So yeah, this owns. Starlight owns.

Literally owns your brain.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:51 pm

Headless Horse wrote:I haven't watched the preview and I don't know if this is what is literally going to be the plot of the episode (it kinda sounds like it is based on what you guys are saying), but it seems to me like a good concept for a story would be Starlight thinking she's "helping" the Mane 6 by transforming them to take away their character flaws.

It would be a retread in some cases (we've seen FlutterNotShy plenty of times by now), but it might be funny to see Applejack being given an artificial boost in intelligence because Starlight thinks she's stupid or something :iamapony: Or Rainbow Dash with humility, or Pinkie becoming bound by logic, or Rarity genuinely enjoying getting muddy :heehaw:

The point being that those things that make different people different aren't necessarily "flaws", but essential parts of their characters.

This would have been a much better episode than what we're getting.

Twilight being back already might save this, we'll see.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:52 pm

Okay, so this is fun: This might not be a rushed ending. I was expecting Twilight to come back, be like, "What is going on?!" everyone laugh, roll credits. Instead, Starlight's going to have to make excuses, own up for it, free everyone, etc, and they have the whole third act to do it in. This could be a really great episode about dealing with "it seemed like a good idea at the time."

Now let's see how they screw it up in exchange for cheap laughs. :gotcha:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:55 pm

Didn't she bake a cake via magic perfectly in Second Prances?
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:56 pm

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 3:59 pm

Why focus on "I'm afraid of sewing, baking cakes" instead of "I'm afraid of interacting with new ponies?" Isn't this moral entirely off-base?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:01 pm

Other than the Pony Hangovers, I didn't really care for this episode. Starlight just isn't a very good character. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:01 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Why focus on "I'm afraid of sewing, baking cakes" instead of "I'm afraid of interacting with new ponies?" Isn't this moral entirely off-base?

She didn't know she was afraid of interacting, she thought she was afraid of the activity itself, but she was afraid of failing/disappointing the pony at the activity. :allears: :allears: :allears:

Ep was amazing, Starlight rules and, I was right, did nothing wrong.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:04 pm

Congrats Starlight you're not a bargin bin Sunset, you're a bargin bin Discord.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:04 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Why focus on "I'm afraid of sewing, baking cakes" instead of "I'm afraid of interacting with new ponies?" Isn't this moral entirely off-base?


She used that as an excuse for the latter, interacting with other ponies in general and not being good at an activity and embarrass herself.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:04 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Why focus on "I'm afraid of sewing, baking cakes" instead of "I'm afraid of interacting with new ponies?" Isn't this moral entirely off-base?

People make excuses as to why they don't want to go new places or meet new people because they don't want to admit to themselves why they're not interacting with people. Starlight was so removed from normal interaction that she doesn't even consider interacting with people on a social level while performing tasks: It's the task that matters, and if she's doing an unfamiliar task with someone else she's going to assume that person is judging her based on her performance at the task and not just that they're hanging out doing the same thing together.

Regarding my previous comment: No, they didn't screw the ending up. This one had a great ending, not rushed, and actually summed up what they were working towards during the episode in a proper, organic way.

And with that said, I've seen episodes with super-rushed "where did that come from" endings that I liked better than this one. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:06 pm

Good episode, I enjoyed it.

It was certainly a change of pace to see the Mane 5 as basically pony automatons who could only do what Starlight told them. Clearly her intentions were good, and she did have doubts after casting the spell. She basically messed up - like Twilight in LZ. The episode felt a like a sequel to LZ, with Twi assuming Celestia's role.

AJ needs to write a memoir. She and Pinkie were best pony robots. :bluh:

A nice twist at the end when they told Starlight to be quiet while chillaxing.

Salty Spike is good. :here:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:07 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Didn't she bake a cake via magic perfectly in Second Prances?

That wasn't baking, that was her magicking up a cake out of various kitchen utensils and other sundries. She's good at magic. She isn't good at actual baking, or scrapbooking, or chillaxing, or so on. Because she's not, she was afraid of taking any initiative towards doing those things, and since they were things to do with others, that's why she's put off socializing so much with anyone who doesn't care about magic (Twilight, Trixie).

Anyway, I really appreciate something like that. Being afraid of things that I'm not already an expert at is a problem that defined my childhood and teenage years and is still something I'm coming out of today. I'm not some sort of magical cartoon pony who can perform weird spells on others so as to avoid that, but like Starlight I have gone through some pretty big extremes in my avoidant behavior. This episode is definitely another one that I wish I could show to 12-year-old me.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:15 pm

Adelor Lyon wrote:People make excuses as to why they don't want to go new places or meet new people because they don't want to admit to themselves why they're not interacting with people. Starlight was so removed from normal interaction that she doesn't even consider interacting with people on a social level while performing tasks: It's the task that matters, and if she's doing an unfamiliar task with someone else she's going to assume that person is judging her based on her performance at the task and not just that they're hanging out doing the same thing together.

Regarding my previous comment: No, they didn't screw the ending up. This one had a great ending, not rushed, and actually summed up what they were working towards during the episode in a proper, organic way.

And with that said, I've seen episodes with super-rushed "where did that come from" endings that I liked better than this one. :pinkieshrug:

This makes sense, thanks for the write-up

Also I'd think magic to bake a cake would require knowing how to, you know, bake a cake but YMMV
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:22 pm

Magic just transmutes.

Naturally she'd rely on it for everything because it'll never fail you and make sure no ponies ever fail you either.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:26 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Also I'd think magic to bake a cake would require knowing how to, you know, bake a cake but YMMV

When programmed with a mathematical formula, a computer can take inputs and solve for the formula's output without the operator needing to know the mathematical principles behind it. I figure magic works the same way, that Starlight does not necessarily need to know how to bake a cake if all she's doing is converting matter and energy from one form to another, if indeed that is how magic works.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:41 pm

I'd like to point out that Twilight has created LIFE by transfiguring an object to a nest of hatching chicks.
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