S04E22: Testing Testing 1, 2, 3

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Re: S04E22: Testing Testing, 1, 2, 3

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:37 pm

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Looks like this was a (minor) toy mandate.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:39 pm

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I think she might just own a set of glass slippers :allears:
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Well, either way, she was adorable.

LardLad3545 wrote:This episode would've gotten a 0/10 if they had missed the opportunity of having Big Mac saying EUP. I thought that was brilliant. :gotcha:


I would like to know if EUP was made before deciding on a Big Mac joke, or if EUP was made after wanting a Big Mac joke.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:40 pm

Oh yeah...the Pinkie copter. I'd forgotten all about it. :v:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:41 pm

The Doctor wrote:On rewatch, I notice Fluttershy drew the princess shoes on her hooves. :3:

Couldn't tell if Rarity had them though.


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Not drawn on. And yes, Rarity has them, although it's almost the same color - iTunes HD will make it clearer.
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Postby Kitsune (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:42 pm



Is this the first time they've used this balcony? As I recall, they usually use the lower one on the side of the tree.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:44 pm

Bravinim wrote:I guess if I had to criticize one thing it's that the solution was basically just Fluttershy's study method again, just with a bit more effort put into it.

This is shortsighted. The solution was that R.D. absorbs (quite a lot) when doing her flying lookouts. The best way to take advantage of this ended up being mostly kind of like a play, although there were just some images inserted also.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:45 pm

Wayoshi wrote:This is shortsighted. The solution was that R.D. absorbs (quite a lot) when doing her flying lookouts. The best way to take advantage of this ended up being mostly kind of like a play, although there were just some images inserted also.

They used a mixture of everyone's suggestions. They had Twilight's flash cards at the end, Rarity talked about fashion, Fluttershy reenacted scenes.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:46 pm

Welp Fluttershy is now tied with Cadance for best princess
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:50 pm

Octavia wrote:They used a mixture of everyone's suggestions. They had Twilight's flash cards at the end, Rarity talked about fashion, Fluttershy reenacted scenes.

That still doesn't make the answer "a mix of everybody's suggestions". The primary solution was "use R.D.'s own method of learning."
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:53 pm

:pcstare: Fluttershy...what's this I hear about you impersonating me?

:flutterdear: Well...er...I...

:unenthused: And you, Rarity...dramatic much?

:vogue: I have to be dramatic...it's all I know.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:54 pm

Wayoshi wrote:That still doesn't make the answer "a mix of everybody's suggestions". The primary solution was "use R.D.'s own method of learning."

Yes, the message was definitely for Rainbow Dash to find her own way of learning, but it was also using a mixture of her friends' suggestions to get that information to her, just while she was in flight.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 5:58 pm

By the way, I appreciated that they telegraphed Rainbow's learning method at the beginning of the episode with her spotting Twilight sneaking up on her.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:06 pm

yeah biggest thng that bugged me in this episode was that one pony screaming HORRIBLY "ADMIRAL FAIRY FLIGHT" it hurt my ears :ngh:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:06 pm

So now I wonder what's next for Dash and the Bolts. Now that she's in the reserves, there's bound to be an episode where she's called up for some reason. I can't see them just dropping the whole Bolts storyline. :awkward:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:07 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Welp Fluttershy is now tied with Cadance for best princess


Celestia > Fluttershy > Rarity > Luna > Angel > Twilight > Cadance > Opel
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:08 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:By the way, I appreciated that they telegraphed Rainbow's learning method at the beginning of the episode with her spotting Twilight sneaking up on her.

Oooh, I forgot about that. Yeah, that was a neat foreshadowing.

To be honest, I thought Rainbow's method was going to be related to breakfast cereals. :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:11 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:So now I wonder what's next for Dash and the Bolts. Now that she's in the reserves, there's bound to be an episode where she's called up for some reason. I can't see them just dropping the whole Bolts storyline. :awkward:


:awesomedash: I got a letter from the Wonderbolts!

:excite: Well, what does it say, Rainbow Dash?

:v: "Dear Rainbow Dash. Your service is required at the Pegasus relay "demonstration" at the Equestrian games. This "demonstration" will take place during the Pegasus relay competition. Sincerely, Spitfire"

:-/ ....

:offendash: This is the seventh time she's tried this...
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Postby Discord (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:17 pm

That was certainly an episode.

The first act was easily one of the best acts that pony's ever done. It definitely goes back to an S1 kind of feel that I adored- two ponies bickering in a naturalistic conflict- and it's so on the mark. Every joke hits, and it had me chuckling more than any pony episode in a whole. It's such great character too, from both Rainbow Dash and Twilight. And the flying is absolutely incredible. Just very :golfclop:

Admittedly, I thought the second act faltered. Fluttershy coming into was absolutely awesome, and the play was funny, but after that...well, I cringed in the Pinkie rap, it just kind of washed over me in a "...wut" :starity: kind of way that didn't engage me. Pinkie wasn't really obnoxious in the episode though otherwise, so that was OK.

The transition to Rarity was also a bit odd, and a lot less smooth than going into Fluttershy's play. I don't think the scene in the boutique worked well that well. The AJ bit was pretty funny, but got overplayed somewhat.

The third act definitely picked things back up, though. The flying scene and interactions between Twilight and Rainbow were awesome, once again. And I think I need to watch the full flight scene to really sink in; I was kind of thrown off by the awkward re-wind transitions that felt out of place, but I think it's a really satisfying conclusion to the story all-in-all.

And this is such great development for Alicorn Twilight. Learning how to teach others and not let her nerdy stubbornness get the best of her in doing so is an excellent way to develop her character in a new way to becoming a mentor.

All in all, a very good episode. I think it has it's issues in the second act, but it's peaks are pure pony goodness.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:20 pm

The Doctor wrote:
Celestia > Fluttershy > Rarity > Luna > Angel > Twilight > Cadance > Opel


More like Fluttershy =Cadance> Angel> Opal> Celestia> Twilight> Luna
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:21 pm

For season 1-3 I always liked Pinkie when she was a supporting character and thought her focus episodes were too much. This season it's the other way round. Pinkie episodes have been brilliant and she's been too much in supporting roles most the time.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:26 pm

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:35 pm

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Someone needs to trace that and submit it to the booru under the name "Rainbow Dash" :gotcha:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:36 pm

I do have to admire how quickly they made that joke about Twilight's height. I wonder if AKR tossed it in as a response to feedback from the fans or if she (or someone else) anticipated it even before MMC aired.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:46 pm

8/10. Pretty good episode. I remember when AKR posted the tweet with hints as to what happened in the episode. One was "Angel Celestia"), which led to the joke Tia would die.

So glad they had Rarity be Nightmare Moon for the re-enactment.

LardLad3545 wrote:This episode would've gotten a 0/10 if they had missed the opportunity of having Big Mac saying EUP. I thought that was brilliant. :gotcha:


I think they did. When they were showing which ponies did what.
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Postby acksed (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:46 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I do have to admire how quickly they made that joke about Twilight's height. I wonder if AKR tossed it in as a response to feedback from the fans or if she (or someone else) anticipated it even before MMC aired.

Tweets say this was written Sept. '13. When was MMC aired?
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:47 pm

I want Twilight to become a teacher at Celestia's School for gifted unicorns soley so we can get more moments like we got in this with her & Dash
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Postby Cthulhu Inc (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:50 pm

The Doctor wrote:
:awesomedash: I got a letter from the Wonderbolts!

:excite: Well, what does it say, Rainbow Dash?

:v: "Dear Rainbow Dash. Your service is required at the Pegasus relay "demonstration" at the Equestrian games. This "demonstration" will take place during the Pegasus relay competition. Sincerely, Spitfire"

:-/ ....

:offendash: This is the seventh time she's tried this...

I don't get it :-I
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:50 pm

Cthulhu Inc wrote:I don't get it :-I


Spitfire is trying to trick her into competing for Cloudsdale again. :gotcha:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 6:59 pm

acksed wrote:Tweets say this was written Sept. '13. When was MMC aired?

Checking out AKR's twitter, it was actually February of 2013. MMC aired on February 16th, so either right before or right after that episode aired.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:01 pm

I was going to say, if she wrote the script in September then that would've been a shockingly short production on this episode. In that case I doubt it was a reaction to us, considering that we never really noticed how long Twilight's neck was until the first PTS preview clips dropped.
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Postby Strangest Letter (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:13 pm

Wayoshi wrote:This is shortsighted. The solution was that R.D. absorbs (quite a lot) when doing her flying lookouts. The best way to take advantage of this ended up being mostly kind of like a play, although there were just some images inserted also.


It was exactly the same idea though, to show Rainbow the events through visual representation, it just didn't work the first time because the play literally fell apart. To say that Rainbow absorbed it better because she was flying is questionable when her only other experience with that method was a clearly lackluster attempt. It's nit-picky I know. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby The Falcon (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:13 pm

So, this episode was one of my favorites of the season, if not the series. SO funny, with great character moments and a good use of each of the main 6. It was really an impressive balancing act of all the different pony elements that make this show what it is, which was very impressive since they usually focus on only a couple of those elements per episode.

-Count me in with those who adored the Pinkie rap. It was hilariously terrible. :-P

-Oh and how I've missed you nerdy, study obsessed Twilight. This is why you're my favorite pony. :twiright:

-The different learning styles were so perfect. Twilight through classic study methods, Rarity through Fashion, Fluttershy through THEATRE (that one kind of threw me for a loop, but it was still very funny), Pinkie Pie through rap (Pinkie Pie is best rapper), and Applejack through..... APPLES!!!! (er, hard work actually, but apple related hard work, so it counts).

-The moral was such a good one too. People do learn differently and at different paces, and Rainbow Dash learning through hyper-awareness of her surroundings while flying was such a perfect character trait for her. It highlighted her strengths and weakness, allowing her to use her strengths (flying) to help overcome her weakness (being and egghea– err, studying).
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:24 pm

Wow, that was a pretty good episode. :starity:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:40 pm

The Falcon wrote:Fluttershy through THEATRE (that one kind of threw me for a loop, but it was still very funny)

It could be that she just learns better through visual means, much like modern people can learn through educational movies and TV shows. Using Spike and the pets to dramatically present the history of the Wonderbolts was just the easiest way for her to accomplish this.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:40 pm

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It was exactly the same idea though, to show Rainbow the events through visual representation, it just didn't work the first time because the play literally fell apart. To say that Rainbow absorbed it better because she was flying is questionable when her only other experience with that method was a clearly lackluster attempt. It's nit-picky I know. :pinkieshrug:

I don't think it's questionable at all, that's exactly what happens. She hyper-focuses when flying.

Also, Tailspin: OH MY GOD. :gotcha:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:42 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Also, Tailspin: OH MY GOD. :gotcha:


I should put a :starity: at the end of that post. Better illustrates my feelings.
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Postby The Falcon (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:44 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:It could be that she just learns better through visual means, much like modern people can learn through educational movies and TV shows. Using Spike and the pets to dramatically present the history of the Wonderbolts was just the easiest way for her to accomplish this.


Ah, Fluttershy being a visual learner makes a lot of sense with that segment.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:01 pm

Dear Princess Celestia, today I learned that watching an episode live with others is the best. :allears:

I thought the episode was awesome so that really helped as well.
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Postby Strangest Letter (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:13 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I don't think it's questionable at all, that's exactly what happens. She hyper-focuses when flying.


Maybe she didn't need the flying part is what I'm getting at, maybe a well constructed retelling of events (Which was Fluttershy's intent) would have been enough.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:14 pm

Bravinim wrote:Maybe she didn't need the flying part is what I'm getting at, maybe a well constructed retelling of events (Which was Fluttershy's intent) would have been enough.


I've found I think better when I'm walking then when I'm sitting (I can concentrate easier and less things distract me). Maybe Dash's also thinks better in the air then on the ground. :pinkieshrug:
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