S04E22: Testing Testing 1, 2, 3

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Re: S04E22: Testing Testing 1, 2, 3

Postby Big Boss (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:00 pm

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This is the entirety of their relationship, summed up in one frame.
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:05 pm

It was a good episode. Sorry about the stupid post that was originally here.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:17 pm

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This is the entirety of their relationship, summed up in one frame.


They make for the most interesting friendship in the show. That's why they're best freeing.

Twilight offers to help Rainbow Dash study. :rainbert:
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Fluttershy offers to help Rainbow Dash study. :awesomedash:
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:38 pm

Pardon me as I kick my depressed butt for a second just so I can give a better opinion than simply "I liked it..."

Being the military history type, I loved the Wonderbolts history lesson... I actually found that alone to be very fascinating and I will see if I can compile a list of the facts given later; if not just for my own personal interest. The Uniform section was an awesome thing to see too, as it was cool to watch the transition over time...

Episode wise, Fluttershy is cute, as always. :yay: If anything, it reinforces we all think and encode differently too and I found it interesting to see each ponies study habits. Though they seem to fit... I would argue if they would actually work. Then again, I am a bookworm so... :v:

Also, Fluttershy was just proven to be the best princess. Why else would she be Celestia? :twiright:

Overall, I think it was the best episode this season. Just me though...
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:52 pm

Adelor Lyon wrote:Bottom pic's got the night palette, but Pantone enthusiasts can go by the EqG pic for maximum accuracy. Her eyes are definitely the same as Rainbow's (above), even down to the lashes.


"Red! Magenta! For Pete's sake, it's all indistinguishable shades of meaningless light wavelengths!"
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Postby Snow Drift (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:55 pm

SO i just watched this a bunch of times.


This episode. This episode is the kind of episode that made me love this series so much.

Character interaction was perfect, animation great, I loved the Pinkie Rap segment (felt very PBS era to me). Also giving more history while at the same time creating even more questions. I love it! My brain is full of :ponydrugs:
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Postby SpaceHowitzer (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:58 pm

I was really impressed by the shadows being done so well on the terrain, that could have been done badly so easily.

I'm hoping we get some more explanation on what filters or how the rap sequence was done with the VHS quality, definitely a con question if I get a chance.

I have this image of Fluttershy needing to learn something so she gets her animal friends a pile of books on the topic and they just present her with a play on the topic the next day.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:12 pm

Richy33 wrote:Being the military history type, I loved the Wonderbolts history lesson... I actually found that alone to be very fascinating and I will see if I can compile a list of the facts given later; if not just for my own personal interest.


Me too. I love worldbuilding and pony lore and I was impressed by how seriously they seemed to take it, what with the Celestia/Luna conflict and the confirmation that Celestia needs armed guards. Equestria isn't just a tea-party world and I know it isn't, but I'm still surprised when they bring up shit like the military in a show called My Little Pony.

Like you, I was looking around to see if somebody compiled all the lore. I found this on reddit:

"Prior to the great Celestia-Luna rift, there was no need for the Earth Unicorn Pegasi - or E.U.P. - Guard. But after Luna's banishment, the Protective Pony Platoons were formed. On the anniversary of the first Celestial year of peace, a celebration was held. Headed by General Firefly, an elite team of aerial performers were chosen to help commemorate this auspicious occasion. The first performance was so full of energy, so highly charged, that magical lightning showered down on the crowd. Everypony was so filled with amazement and wonder that General Firefly dubbed them the Wonderbolts."
"Colonel Purple Dart, the leader of the Wonderbolts in the 4th Celestial era, was known for his—"
"After becoming the official flying squadron for Princess Celestia, she honored them with—"
Premier Wonderbolts choreographer: Commander Easy Glider
How many pegasi flew in the original squad: 7
Princess Celestia's favorite flight pattern: Icaranian Sun Salutation
General Flash: 10th leader of the Wonderbolts
Admiral Fairy Flight, from the 7th squadron
Flair de Mare streamlined the uniform design
Admiral Fairweather (unknown when they lead)
Also Rainbow Dash's answers for the pop quiz: Ernie's Undercooked Pancakes, Celestia's Cereal Celebration, and General Blazing Donut Glaze (as opposed to Twilight's Colonel Waffle).


Which reminds me that Twilight's :-/ "please don't say Colonel Waffle" was pretty funny.

EDIT: I don't often have an excuse to use this emote:
:iiaia: "Princess Celestia's favorite flight pattern: Icaranian Sun Salutation"
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:31 pm

PictishBeast wrote:
Me too. I love worldbuilding and pony lore and I was impressed by how seriously they seemed to take it, what with the Celestia/Luna conflict and the confirmation that Celestia needs armed guards. Equestria isn't just a tea-party world and I know it isn't, but I'm still surprised when they bring up shit like the military in a show called My Little Pony.

Like you, I was looking around to see if somebody compiled all the lore. I found this on reddit:



Which reminds me that Twilight's :-/ "please don't say Colonel Waffle" was pretty funny.

EDIT: I don't often have an excuse to use this emote:
:iiaia: "Princess Celestia's favorite flight pattern: Icaranian Sun Salutation"


So...the list was already compiled... Well...Celestia dammit.

I can always clean it up, add pictures and such. There is still a host of information not mentioned.

Or I an surrender... and give up...Let's go with that... :fluttersmith:
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:40 pm

Richy33 wrote:
So...the list was already compiled... Well...Celestia dammit.

I can always clean it up, add pictures and such. There is still a host of information not mentioned.

Or I an surrender... and give up...Let's go with that... :fluttersmith:


Do it with pictures, dude. I think it would add a lot. For example Pinkie at the end is apparently dressed as Firefly which is an interesting factoid for ponyhistorians like us. Work up an illustrated post and post it here. :allears:
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:46 pm

As someone who does not look forward to RD episodes, I was so pleasantly surprised by this! Great episode, through and through. I hate Rainbow's constantly bad attitude, but in this episode I actually started to really feel for her. It was such a genuine depiction of people whose brains don't work well in certain molds, and so as a defense they just don't take anything seriously except for whatever they happen to be good at.

And, best of all, this episode got some uproarious laughter from me on more than one occasion. Rainbow Dash's jokes usually make me mad because they so often revolve around her being a dismissive ass, but she cracked me up a couple times in this episode--particularly the aforementioned "idiot concert" in the library.

For my tastes the back half of this season has been consistently more fun than the first half, and I'm quite happy about it.
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:51 pm

PictishBeast wrote:
Do it with pictures, dude. I think it would add a lot. For example Pinkie at the end is apparently dressed as Firefly which is an interesting factoid for ponyhistorians like us. Work up an illustrated post and post it here. :allears:


I am already noticing things that he missed in his transcript. Colonel PurpleDart was identified earlier (or later). :P
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:56 pm

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This episode made me realize something: the show is really at its best when it's presenting a situation to which kids are the primary audience who can relate. Schoolyard drama. Grade-school performance anxiety. How to make friends. The stuff kids' whole lives revolve around. It's great if adults can enjoy it too, and apply it to their own lives; but the heart and soul of the show is still a self-help series for kids learning to be social creatures and coping with the travails of elementary and middle school.

So, in that the first few episodes of S1 dealt with well-trodden childhood socialization lessons like "two's company, three's a crowd" and "don't judge a book by its cover", the show gained its early texture by being aimed primarily at kids for whom concepts like "snacktime" and recess" are the things to look forward to in the day—and seeing them brought up here, with as much low-stakes tension as we saw in situations like "I bet I can break the ball-bouncing record", is really what makes it feel like such a throwback. It makes me realize that the intervening seasons have been full of episodes that have dealt with ever more complicated and subtle kinds of adult-level socialization, from "have integrity in your business dealings" to "find something to bond with your sister-in-law over", and that right there may be the flavor of the "simplicity" that the show lost track of somewhere along the way. It's supposed to be a kids' show, dang it, and what was so magical about it was that there were undertones to the lessons and the characterizations that adults could appreciate and apply—not that that level of complexity was the topmost thing on showcase. It was awesome when Applebuck Season presented a lesson about taking on too much responsibility (a fault that few ten-year-old kids suffer from), or when Suited For Success showed the travails of an artist in the thrall of her own dueling perfectionism and selflessness; but what made them awesome was that they weren't the predominating flavor of the show. Usually it was stuff like "don't brag" and "don't drink the bottles under the sink" and, at most, "when will I get my period?"

It's all well and good to get episodes about giant sandworms and changeling invasions and Sauron pony and time travel gone amok. It's really satisfying when they do those kinds of concepts well, and indeed well enough to utterly put to shame the quality of formerly keystone outings like the original premiere two-parter. But this is still a kids' fairy-tale show at its heart. It doesn't want to be Tolkien. It needs a little bit of the cheese of the Nightmare Moon premiere, with its ridiculous appeals to merchandisability and its effete camp river dragons and its cackling demon villain. It's a show about pink pony princesses. Its beauty is in how far above its weight class it consistently punches, against the context of "blah" kids' entertainment of decades past. But the more it tries to take itself seriously and to believe its own press—the more it tries to appeal to a more grown-up sensibility by straying away from schoolyard concerns and into the kind of life problems that only a grown-up will recognize—the more it loses of that charm that the early "how to be a kid" stories had. They weren't the best episodes of the series, to be sure. But they certainly were irresistible. And it was the thread of cognitive dissonance they carried with them, of all-too-familiar stories being told through the lens of a kid in kid world and inhabiting a world of rainbows and pink hearts, yet with genuine humor and deep characterization and respectful writing, that made them so.

In other words, this episode puts its finger squarely on what Pony has been more and more missing in latter seasons, and it shone a spotlight straight back on it. A lot of S4 has felt like this to me—like it's been consciously trying to gain back the old S1 feel—but this is the first time I think it really "got" itself, by allowing itself to deal once again with a fundamentally "kid" problem that adults can all grok just as instinctively and find just as reassuring as kids do.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:58 pm

Richy33 wrote:
I am already noticing things that he missed in his transcript. Colonel PurpleDart was identified earlier (or later).


Doooooo iiiiiiit. I'll totally eat it up, promise.

Also, is this the Icaranian Sun Salutation? :ponder:
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(I just picture Celestia sitting in her Cloudsdale box seat sipping a cocktail and thinking "well done" as Rarity plunges screaming down to earth)
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Postby Snow Drift (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:00 pm

I find it interesting that General Firefly's uniform which would be immediately post Lunar Exile, seems to be modeled after the Union Army uniform from the U.S. Civil War.

Also Admiral Fairyflight and General Flash seem to be wearing some sort of camo disco outfit. Those must have been funky days.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:02 pm

I think where this episode really shines is in the direction. There were so many visual touches that were perfectly handled. Interesting camera angles, movements, perspectives, and unique scene transitions. But most importantly, there were a lot of gags that relied on visual humor and they were all nailed perfectly :lol:
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:03 pm

Bellbottoms on the battlefield served an important purpose. How else were you supposed to tell whose funk levels were the highest and therefore who was in charge? Epaulettes? :ponder:

Also, Twilight's "how many pegasi flew in the first squadron" bit was a bullshit trick question; she never covered that in the lesson :rainbert:
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:04 pm

PictishBeast wrote:
Doooooo iiiiiiit. I'll totally eat it up, promise.


I'd like to second this sentiment. A labor of genuine fascination will be so much interesting to view than a simple slap-dash compilation!
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:12 pm

Yea after rewatching, this may be one of my favorite episodes ever, and that's saying a lot since past Rainbow episodes have been 'yea it's ok' and usually not much else for me.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:16 pm

Yea the show shines brightest when it's slice of life elements are the focus, be it problems children face or people in general.
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:20 pm

I have recruited a friend to help me get the pictures...Meanwhile, I am downloading GIMP so I can help him too... This is going to be...interesting...
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Postby acksed (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:37 pm

Rainbow Crash wrote:I think where this episode really shines is in the direction. There were so many visual touches that were perfectly handled. Interesting camera angles, movements, perspectives, and unique scene transitions. But most importantly, there were a lot of gags that relied on visual humor and they were all nailed perfectly :lol:

One thing I didn't catch before I saw a GIF: When Twi lands on a cloud, she sinks a bit before adjusting her footing. Guess she's still learning how to pegasus.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:48 pm

acksed wrote:One thing I didn't catch before I saw a GIF: When Twi lands on a cloud, she sinks a bit before adjusting her footing. Guess she's still learning how to pegasus.

A combination of not enough flying practice and too many hayburgers, I think. :smirk:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:48 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:A combination of not enough flying practice and too many hayburgers, I think. :smirk:


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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:51 pm

Are the ponies with speaking lines at the end ponies that we're supposed to know? Because the one playing Admiral Fairy Flight needs a voice coach.

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GIMP is both versatile and very user-unfriendly. I'm okay with it but a little over a year ago I was a complete noob. PM me if you get stuck.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:56 pm

PictishBeast wrote:Are the ponies with speaking lines at the end ponies that we're supposed to know? Because the one playing Admiral Fairy Flight needs a voice coach.

Admiral Fairy Flight is played by Sassaflash. This is her first speaking role, but only main character voice actresses are credited for those roles. Colonel Purple Dart is some background pony apparently voiced by Tara Strong.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:58 pm

Man I love these character heavy 'bottle' episodes where characters are actually able to have a conversation without some sort of forced misunderstanding or time sensitive theme.

Twi and Rainbow definitely have a Bart and Lisa Simpson kind of relationship. :v: :allears: :-/


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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:24 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I guess it helps that the background and storyboard artists are right there in Vancouver and have a highly talented and passionate bunch of people working there. With it being made in Flash, too, I'm sure the all-digital format makes the revision process much easier than it ever was in traditional cel animation.


I suppose it's very easy to iterate on improving timing, and this episode doesn't have anything like a whole swarm of Breezies or a Chimera in a flaming swamp, so maybe this is a scene that can be put together and tweaked to perfection in an afternoon.

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Something very silly about Twilight's rotating wall of flash cards.
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Postby Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:01 pm

Oh my god I'm in love with a Rainbow Dash episode how did this even happen

Good parts: All of it.

Bad parts: Being finite instead of encompassing all of time and space so that all life in the universe is one with a good horse cartoon episode, all energy being a singularity of Testing Testing 1, 2, 3.
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Postby Yolostar (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:09 pm

I liked this episode, it had good jokeses.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:09 pm

It's getting harder and harder to list off the titles of the best episodes in the show with a straight face. :gotcha:

It was pretty easy when it was stuff like SONIC RAINBOOM :black101: and Suited For Success :vogue: . But now--"Filli Vanilli"? "Testing Testing 1-2-3"? Seriously?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:14 pm

Eh, this one's not so bad, but Filli Vanilli is definitely up there as one of the biggest horse-pun groaners the show has done.
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Postby Rachael33 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:19 pm

The Wonderbolts! A Canon History
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Chapter 1: History and Purpose

Pre-Luna's banishment, the "military" of Equestria was the EUP Guard, which was seen as an unneeded force, implying that all was fine in Equestria. Post-banishment, the "Protective Pony Platoons" were created, implying that evil once again infiltrated the world. (For you people that believe Luna was infected by something, you may be correct.) These forces, due to their name, most likely had the job of protecting Equestria from the outside world.

As far as we know, the Wonderbolts were formed out of the Protective Pony Platoons. This implies that there Equestria did in fact possess a military that had different divisions and commands (Celestia's Royal Guard may actually be another Division, with Shining Armor as their commander). What the purpose of each group was or is remains to be seen, but one can surmise that their job was peace keeping, and this might explain their deployment when Spike was ravaging Ponyville. More research (or an imagination) are required to truly decipher their purpose in the world of Equestria. It has also been noted that Equestria is a very dangerous place, especially around the Everfree forest, so the idea of them being peacekeepers and defenders is feasible. Now, it was also mentioned that the Wonderbolt Reserve is a RECENT creation and this may mean that more "Wonderbolts" may be required for a special purpose, further adding to this idea of them being defenders.

The Wonderbolts, as an acrobatics team, have existed since the year after the banishment of Luna. To commemorate the first Celestial year of peace, a team of seven elite flyers under General Firefly was formed to perform, the results of which gave them the name "Wonderbolts." This was because of the four bolts of lighting that splashed across the sky at the end of their routine.

Other officers had effects upon the organization as well. Admiral Fairweather and Colonel Purple Dart, for example, seemed to bestow a greater degree of discipline onto the group, something that may have been lacking in the original group. Pinkie's Rap mentioned they also added "heart" to the group, which may have shown a decrease in the general morale of the "Wonderbolts," perhaps due to war or other circumstances. General Flash and Admiral Fairy Flight, meanwhile, worked together to make the "Wonderbolts" what we see them as today, an elite group of flyers. They perhaps worked with Commander Easy Glider to establish drills or to choreograph the routines as to make them spectacular. This implies that the Wonderbolts at one point weren't exactly the best performers and needed to be reminded and shown what to do. Either way, they became an organization adored by the ponies of Equestria.

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Chapter 2: Organization

This is where I scratched my head a bit... The ranks made no sense when I heard them, so I began to think.

First off, the ranks associated with the Army seem to be those which command the Wonderbolts. General and Colonel in particular. Admirals seemed to head Squadrons, while Commanders perhaps more specialized groups, such as Commander Easy Glider. There is sadly not much else that can be discerned on this subject due to the randomness of the names.

Chapter 3: People and uniforms

In looking at the famous commanders, we can get a sense for how the Wonderbolt uniform changed over time.

First off, we have General Firefly, the pony that gave the name to the group we know as the Wonderbolts. With him, we can group the traditional flying uniform of the Wonderbolts, as shown by Rarity.

Image General Firefly
Image Traditional flying uniform

I understand Flair de Mare was also shown by Rarity, but she will be mentioned later.

Next, we have Admiral Fairweather and Colonel Purple Dart. We learn, from Twilight's flashcards, that Colonel Purple Dart was the 4th leader of the Wonderbolts. In Pinkie's Rap, we learn that together, they helped add "steel" and "heart" to the organization. I interpreted those as discipline and honor, perhaps even the boosting of morale.

Image Colonel Purple Dart
Image Admiral Fairweather

Now, we come to the most picture heavy section of this... (I took 14 of them...)

We have three people to cover here. General Flash and Admiral Fairy Flight worked together to create the Wonderbolts we see today. Their uniforms seem to be that of a 1940s American, so I am grouping them together. General Flash was the 10th Leader of the Wonderbolts while Admiral Fury Flight commanded the 7th Squadron (this is where I formed my idea of the difference in ranks). The idea of separate squadrons implies this is a truly massive group in Equestria, with a fairly intricate command structure. With this, it can be implied they play a large part in Equestrian defense, again showing why they reacted to Spike in Ponyville.

Here are their uniforms.

Image Admiral Fairy Flight
Image General Flash
Image General Flash type uniform
Image Another example of that type of Uniform

We now come to Commander Easy Glider, who most likely worked with General Flash and Admiral Fairy Flight. He was responsible for coming up with flight patterns and techniques still used today.

Image Commander Easy Glider
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Now, we come to Flair de Mare. She was responsible for streamlining the flight uniform. This is why I save her for last. She gave them the final form. On top of this, I will add Spitfire. Spitfire is probably a Commander or an Admiral in the Wonderbolts, but it is hard to say without any other information. Either way, she deserves to be mentioned in a post about them. PICTURES INCOMING!

Image Spitfire and her Uniform
Image Modern Wonderbolts Uniform as shown by this scruffy guy
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:21 pm

I am so sorry for the size of the post and images... :fluttersmith:


Don't be. :)
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:21 pm

You did a great job here. I really like the big Spitfire picture. :awesomedash:
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:44 pm

I let this thread get away from me and I probably won't catch up, but this episode was pretty awesome, rap and all. All other writers should takes notes from this episode before they even try writing Rainbow Dash again. :awesomedash:
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see those OCs with their long curly manes
goodnight to the brony era
cause they don't need you anymore
little mare, colt, mare
cooooooooooooooooooooooollllllt
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:49 pm

Is this episode's title a reference or something? I have no idea where it's coming from :pinkieshrug:
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but why would you post such a thing??
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:56 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:Is this episode's title a reference or something? I have no idea where it's coming from :pinkieshrug:

It's a common procedure to say "testing, testing, one, two, three" whenever somebody tests a microphone.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:59 pm

Mr. Big wrote:It's a common procedure to say "testing, testing, one, two, three" whenever somebody tests a microphone.


Sure, but what does that have to do with this episode? :-I

This episode. About taking a test :facehoof:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:05 pm

Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote:Oh my god I'm in love with a Rainbow Dash episode how did this even happen.

It happened because Dash is an awesome horse who is full of confidence and everyone loves her. :awesomedash: She's a natural winner.
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Your MRI results have shown total infection to now be approximately one fifth of the full mass of the tissue.

"So you're saying..."

Your brain is about 20% tumor.
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