S07E12: Discordant Harmony

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S07E12: Discordant Harmony

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:47 pm

When Discord invites Fluttershy to his realm for tea, he worries she won't be comfortable there and begins to change it and himself with disastrous results.


This thread is for discussion of the episode. This episode airs on Boomerang in Australia at 1:40 AM Eastern on Tuesday, June 20! (10:40 Pacific night prior)

Official preview clips and images are okay to post, as is speculation about the episode.

Pitch-corrected link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k7jdGgfhVJYukxnzjJm
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Jun 17, 2017 8:19 pm

:excellent: I wish Slaanesh wouldn't leave his socks laying around.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:14 am

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:47 am

It is airing right now.

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:59 am

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Third Discord appearance and Star Trek Reference down.



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One of Discord's costumes was a direct reference to the very first appearance of Q on Star Trek.


:allears: That was a really sweet episode. Best Discord story the show has done since he's been reformed, and I'd say second best of the franchise after the outstanding Luna and Discord comic.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:59 am

All in all this was a very cute episode. Only thing I would maybe change is the whole "Discord will fade away if he isn't chaotic" you do the episode without having to make Discord die be your stakes. But I guess it adds urgency to the third act, but eh it's a small nitpick.

Honestly surprised but might be one of my favorite of the season.
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Postby AmericanErrorist (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:40 am

Is PAL speed-up in effect here?
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:47 pm

A great "just be yourself" episode. Fluttershy was terrific, possibly one of her best episodes of the series. :allears:

I like watching Discord and Fluttershy hanging out, and I'm always up for Discord's antics. Loved the ginseng tea and Fluttercord. Image

Definitely one of my favorites so far this season. :yay:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:03 pm

Absolutely. Fucking. Adorable.

Extremely low key, and it was genuinely heartwarming to see Fluts all giddy when she first showed up to Discord's place. Damn she's grown so much as a character. :allears:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 1:33 pm

AmericanErrorist wrote:Is PAL speed-up in effect here?

Definitely.

I felt like this episode dragged in the middle when it was just 6 Discords doing things. Still for the Fox brothers this was good.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 4:52 pm

DerFurShur wrote:All in all this was a very cute episode. Only thing I would maybe change is the whole "Discord will fade away if he isn't chaotic" you do the episode without having to make Discord die be your stakes. But I guess it adds urgency to the third act, but eh it's a small nitpick.

Honestly surprised but might be one of my favorite of the season.


I would agree with that. With how quick the final act is, it doesn't hurt the episode much, but having lower stakes probably would have been better.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:22 pm

I put a link in the OP to a good version that has both the highest quality Boomerang airs, 576p, as well as reversing the "PAL effect".

Still Boomerang does cut out the credits... so we don't have names or VAs for the tea ponies yet.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:31 am

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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:21 pm

This one was great, and for the first time an actual Discord episode that actually shows he has grown as a character, which is what has made his previous episodes always weak because he was the same asshat he was in Season 3.

Whereas here we finally see how his time has changed him and it's just, like, YAY. Because this Discord was an interesting and good character. More of him please, less of S7E1 Discord, thanks!
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Postby Applepie (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:30 pm

OK, worth waiting.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 7:48 am

That was a wonderful episode. Discord was characterized well here, and Fluttershy truly has grown (finally) since the beginning. I'm guessing that's Andrea Libman as the pinata. It sounds like Pinkie Pie, pretty much.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:46 am

What? Now Australia is responsible for screwing up the schedule? Why I never! We just had this conversation with you big brother, Canada! I'm disappointed in you, Australia. Now go down stairs to your room and think about what you did, mister!
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What nice take away I got from this episode is that Discord actually paid for all the stuff he took from the stores. Discord is ballin'. He didn't even ask for the price or his change back, just gave them a pie of gold coins and walked out. If there is one thing Discord is good for, it's causing chaos in the local economy.
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And Fluttershy is super adorable in this episode. 10 out of 10 squees.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:28 am

Huh, that was pretty wild. Fluttershy was higher-energy here than she's ever been. I definitely want to re-watch it in proper quality, though.

One thing was bugging me... were the ponies shorter than normal? Maybe we just don't see Discord standing up straight for this long normally. I checked some old episodes, but his height isn't particularly consistent, either.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:26 am

Fluttershy was adorable. :allears:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 3:53 am

The Doctor wrote:Third Discord appearance and Star Trek Reference down.

Wait, third? As far as I know, he was only in this and "Celestial Advice" so far.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:10 am

Mr. Big wrote:Wait, third? As far as I know, he was only in this and "Celestial Advice" so far.


split second dream bubble appearance in Royal Problem.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 5:53 am

Ahhh. A bit of a stretch, but I guess it counts. If you want to be technical, Twilight appeared in "The Perfect Pear", too :v:

This made me look up the list of episodes Discord was in. The season where he appeared the most is Season 4, with five episodes (Princess Twilight Sparkle Parts 1 & 2, Three's a Crowd, Twilight's Kingdom Parts 1 & 2).
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 6:45 am

I actually got Bingo with The Perfect Pear.

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:gotcha: Just need flurry heart to save the day in the finale and I'll get double bingo.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:50 pm

The Doctor wrote:I actually got Bingo with The Perfect Pear.

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:gotcha: Just need flurry heart to save the day in the finale and I'll get double bingo.


Uhm, no you didnt, there was definitely a Celestia episode so your free space is invalid :smirk:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:50 pm

On the other hoof, you can check off Luna episode and get Bingo that way, so!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:00 pm

i made the call since it wasn't a focused Celestia episode, just one she costars in. My expectation was something like Luna Eclipsed or Magic Sheep where the story focus was entirely on the character of Luna.

And likewise I didn't count Royal Problem as a Luna episode either.

Not bad though for making the card right after S6 ended. :wingsright:
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:05 am

Calling Magic Sheep a Luna episode though when like, I mean, the Mane 6 have as much or more screentime, etc, etc...I dunno if that quite works! But whatevs! Technically you have bingo whichever interpretation you take.
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Postby Lhet (?) » Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:33 am

This was a fun episode!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 6:04 pm

I watched it early. I'm weak. :saddershy:

Beneath Discord's antics (something I always enjoy, even this episode's second act which was packed with those) there's actually an important lesson here, that someone who truly likes you will like you because of who you are and what you do, not just because that person is extremely nice. That's something I find myself worrying about now and then, that maybe people who reply to my posts or look at my art or want to hang out with me in the few times I have a chance to meet other ponygoons IRL are doing it only because it's polite to do so, not because they genuinely care about me. And maybe I could change myself in order to appeal to others more, but then I'd be throwing away who I am just for the sake of fitting a misguided perception involving others, just like Discord did here.

I'm not entirely convinced that thing with Discord fading away was a literal case of his behavior causing him to be removed from existence. We know very well how much he likes attention and will even try to be pathetic for the sake of it (see What About Discord?), so as I saw this, maybe he knew deep down that he was being self-destructive and he was doing that as a sort of cry for help. At least, that's what I'd expect of someone who is perhaps still not so great at socializing, who overly relies on himself for advice in situations like this.
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Postby marshmallow (?) » Thu Jun 29, 2017 8:02 pm

Fluttershy must want some excitement in her life. That's why she lives right next to the Everfree Forest.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:41 am

Apparently this airs on August 5th, for those of us who didn't watch it early? :ponydrugs:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:35 am

Yes, both this and The Perfect Pear are airing on DF on Saturday.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:22 pm

I forgot episodes are still airing. It feels like a forced hiatus.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:17 pm

Another hiatus is over. Cya next saturday at a brandnew episode
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Aug 05, 2017 7:17 pm

For those of us who didn't watch early, today is :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: and it feels so good.

• "Discordant Harmony" sounds like the name of someone's alt you'd meet in City of Heroes.
• Dem pillows. :allears:
• And yet Discord is still cackling evilly in the opening credits.
• Incidentally, this is the first time I've ever noticed that Pinkie just drapes herself over Rarity in the group photo. After 7 years I imagine Rarity's used to it. :ohrarity:
• I love that Ponyville residents are not even fazed by the reality-bending draconequus going about his business. These are the ponies who used to fear the local zebra.
• I've been saying from the beginning we need a lot more Pinkie/Discord scenes. Those two really get each other.
• Well at LEAST cover the portal to Hell in the floor, Discord. Get a throw rug or something.
• Piñatas hate bats! This show still has so much to teach us.
• Pegasuses are less into gravity than other ponies, Discord's probably okay there.
• Aw, poor Fluttershy just wanted some insanity in her life. :fluttersmith:
• I was wondering what the third act twist was going to be, and "Discord negates his own existence" is a darn fine one.
• Ha, and now Fluts has to be chaotic. :allears:
• Adorable parallelism!

SUMMARY: I give this 7 out of 10 sandwich butterflies. As usual, Discord antics are reliably entertaining in a low-level way but he's best when interacting with other ponies, so things pick up once the tea party happens. The fading Discord development gives some much-needed motivation beyond "Fluttershy attends a disappointing tea party" and gives fuel to the third act. I think more episodes, especially lately, could do with a little more third-act escalation like this -- just a tiny extra twist to add urgency and motivate a resolution. (Edit: Ha, this is the opposite of what some people in this thread have said; but that's okay, I love you guys because we aren't the same :dreamworks:)
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:29 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:• Piñatas hate bats! This show still has so much to teach us.

:-I

...I only now got this joke. :facehoof:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:19 am

Finger food! :rimshot:
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Flossing, the old-fashioned way.
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It's ssssshowtime!
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My favorite visual gag this episode
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Babs' Tea, Babs' Tea, whatcha gonna brew?

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whoa whoa whoa
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WHOA WHOA WHOA
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It's hard to judge, since it's Discord, but ponies look really small next to him in some scenes.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:25 am

Welcome home!
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The piñata coughs up some candy as soon as the bats appear.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Aug 07, 2017 5:29 am

"What does it do, what does it do?"
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Milk toast.
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How wacky!
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Safety first.
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Postby Frith (?) » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:42 pm

That was a rather good episode. Fluttershy, Discord and their interactions were written really well here. The lesson was also good. There were a bit too much Discord antics in the episode for my liking but that was a minor problem.
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