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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:23 pm

Remind me who the studio is who is working on the film?
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:27 pm

Same as the show, animated by DHX Media Vancouver
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 4:25 pm

The ears look pretty much the same to me, save for a bit of extra shading is also present on other parts of the ponies there.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:37 am

I would prefer not to have a different art style from the show because it will feel to alien to the main series to fit in canonically. Besides, most TV-to-movie cartoons don't change the art style often, maybe an improvement, but hardly a change in style because they want it to be recognizable to the actual show it represents.
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:50 am

Well, prepare to be disappointed then, because by virtue of being animated with a completely different setup from the usual Flash animation of the show, everything is going to be rebuilt from the ground up for the movie and very likely with an altered art style.


And frankly that's the way it should be, because the Flash puppetry of this show and the very simplified art style would stick out really badly on the big screen
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:03 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:The ears look pretty much the same to me, save for a bit of extra shading is also present on other parts of the ponies there.


In the show there's just a line in the ears, whereas here there's more of a defined gap with a shaded interior. It's a small thing, and we're only really talking about it because it's the only really obvious change.

Ruflux wrote:Well, prepare to be disappointed then, because by virtue of being animated with a completely different setup from the usual Flash animation of the show, everything is going to be rebuilt from the ground up for the movie and very likely with an altered art style.

And frankly that's the way it should be, because the Flash puppetry of this show and the very simplified art style would stick out really badly on the big screen


Eh, I'm not expecting a wild departure from the signature FiM look to be honest. Based on what few sources we have (the Russian convention slides, the Spanish official website icon, Tara Strong's photo) it all looks like small tweaks rather than big changes. I expect dramatically improved lighting/shadowing and a lot more unique poses/animations will do plenty to jazz them up.
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:26 pm

Yeah, but the point is that the art is absolutely not going to be a 100% match for the show, which is pretty obvious from the concept art and such we've seen and I believe this is what Soft Snow was referring to.


I especially expect the BG art to heavily change since the backgrounds in this show are generally very simplistic and like I said, I don't think that style works in a proper movie because it looks too cheap and simple for it. Since they're not bound by the realities of TV animation production deadlines, I'm pretty certain they'll spend a fair amount of effort on the BG art for this thing
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:37 pm

Ruflux wrote:Yeah, but the point is that the art is absolutely not going to be a 100% match for the show, which is pretty obvious from the concept art and such we've seen and I believe this is what Soft Snow was referring to.


Oh sure, totally. The ears are a small example of something the animators probably would've liked to do on the show but lacked the time and budget for, so we might see other things like that popping up.

Ruflux wrote:I especially expect the BG art to heavily change since the backgrounds in this show are generally very simplistic and like I said, I don't think that style works in a proper movie because it looks too cheap and simple for it. Since they're not bound by the realities of TV animation production deadlines, I'm pretty certain they'll spend a fair amount of effort on the BG art for this thing


I think you're the right. I expect we're going to see a huge upgrade in all the background stuff we don't usually pay much attention to; more detailed backgrounds and props, loads more layers of parallaxing (if not actual 3D sets), ambient effects like leaves and grass blowing in the breeze, etc. Even on a pretty modest budget (which is what I expect the MLP film has) I think there'll be plenty of room for that sort of thing.
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:35 pm

I mean, we already have shit like those teaser stills from the new EqG thing that has completely revamped BG art since it doesn't take place at the school and some of those honestly look hella good compared to stuff in the previous EqG movies. If they can improve that much for a really low budget Flash production like Legends of Everfree, I'm pretty certain the movie will have some pretty damn impressive backgrounds going on
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:15 am

If they are not using flash, what are they using for the movie then?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:28 am

Soft Snow wrote:If they are not using flash, what are they using for the movie then?
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DHX wrote:DHX Media (Vancouver) Ltd. is hiring Storyboard Artists for a new animated feature film - an epic, character-driven fantasy that will be animated in Toon Boom! It has comedy, action, and a huge existing fan base.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:37 am

Not Toon Boom! This is the worst possible thing!
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Is that a bad thing? How is it better then what they have been using?
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:54 am

Soft Snow wrote:Not Toon Boom! This is the worst possible thing!
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Is that a bad thing? How is it better then what they have been using?


I'm not an animator but from what I've read and heard, Toon Boom makes it easier to draw fluid character movements and has a better work flow. I asked Craig McCracken (Powerpuff Girls, Foster's Home, Wander Over Yonder) if WOY could have been animated in flash and he said technically it is possible but the character animation may not look as stretchy/fluid and it would take longer to animate in Flash to achieve the quality they want.

Not to say that all Toon Boom animated shows will look great (i.e. Family Guy). Like Flash, it really depends on the style they're going for and how much effort is needed.

The only other movie to be animated in Toon Boom was Princess and the Frog.


Could the MLP Movie be animated in Flash and look as good as the TB version? Probably. But supposedly it would take more time.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Fri Jul 22, 2016 7:17 am

Soft Snow wrote:Not Toon Boom! This is the worst possible thing!
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Is that a bad thing? How is it better then what they have been using?


The main difference is that Toon Boom is a dedicated, professional-grade animation package, whereas Flash is a piece of software originally designed to do all sorts of things (mostly interactive web content) that was later adapted for use in TV animation. Toon Boom will offer the animators far more features to work with, better tools and overall more flexibility in how they can achieve their goals.

In the case of this film, the budget is going to define the quality-ceiling far more than the software is.
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Postby ixnay (?) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 1:36 am

More guest star news

http://www.avclub.com/article/sia-play- ... -sh-240003

Australian singer-songwriter Sia has lined up another gig that won’t require her to show her strategically obscured face: voice actress for a magical singing horse. Hasbro announced today at one of its Comic-Con panels that the This Is Acting performer will be appearing in the upcoming My Little Pony movie, where she’ll play a hoofed chanteuse by the name of Songbird Serenade.

Sia will also provide two original songs for the soundtrack of the animated film
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:03 am

Hey if MLP is gonna take a page out of another animated movie's book, might as well go with Zootopia. Sia was even one of the writers for Try Everything.
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Postby Concerned Reader (?) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 3:19 pm

So Michel Gagne is apparently onboard to do FX animation for the movie.

If he doesn't sound familiar, he's a really great FX animator who's done work on The Iron Giant, Osmosis Jones, Brave, Ratatouille, and most recently the in game effects of Battleborn.

http://youtu.be/5Fa8K0nxo9k


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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:22 pm

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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:43 am

It's still weird to realize that a My Little Pony movie of all things is going to make a return to more 2D looking animation as far as wide release theatrical animated movies in the US go.

I mean between Laika's puppets and Pixar, DreamWorks, Disney-arguably-being-more-Pixar-than-Pixar-right-now, and the guys making Minions and Pets movies all doing the 3D cg animation, I honestly didn't think 2D looking animation would make a return. The last SpongeBob movie wasn't even animated like the show.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:33 am

DerFurShur wrote:It's still weird to realize that a My Little Pony movie of all things is going to make a return to more 2D looking animation as far as wide release theatrical animated movies in the US go.

I mean between Laika's puppets and Pixar, DreamWorks, Disney-arguably-being-more-Pixar-than-Pixar-right-now, and the guys making Minions and Pets movies all doing the 3D cg animation, I honestly didn't think 2D looking animation would make a return. The last SpongeBob movie wasn't even animated like the show.


I thought the latest Spongebob movie had 2D animation

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(I believe this too was Toon Boom animated)
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:56 am

I never saw it and the marketing for the movie focused on the "out of water" part which were all 3D in the real world
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:50 pm

DerFurShur wrote:I never saw it and the marketing for the movie focused on the "out of water" part which were all 3D in the real world

That CGI part only took up a small portion of the film, near the end. Majority of the animation was all 2-D.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:59 pm

Mr. Big wrote:That CGI part only took up a small portion of the film, near the end. Majority of the animation was all 2-D.

Really? From all the trailers I saw of it, I had gotten the impression that most of the movie was like that.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:07 pm

Yeah they really advertised the 3D in the real world part heavily.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 12:37 am

Concerned Reader wrote:So Michel Gagne is apparently onboard to do FX animation for the movie.

If he doesn't sound familiar, he's a really great FX animator who's done work on The Iron Giant, Osmosis Jones, Brave, Ratatouille, and most recently the in game effects of Battleborn.

http://youtu.be/5Fa8K0nxo9k


http://youtu.be/vN_BTQQBvqQ


http://youtu.be/rKy4BfE2Rhk


Haha, this guy?

http://www.gagneint.com/Final%20site/bo ... abbits.htm

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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:04 am

My only concern is that he is working on two movies at once. With his focus divided will he be able to give enough attention to ponies?
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Postby Aramek (?) » Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:00 pm

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Postby Pocket (?) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 5:06 am

Mr. Big wrote:That CGI part only took up a small portion of the film, near the end. Majority of the animation was all 2-D.

That's hilarious. I've now seen the first movie, and it too had only a small portion that took place on the surface near the end. I wonder if anyone has clocked it to see which one spent less time there.
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Postby Concerned Reader (?) » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:54 pm

Concerned Reader wrote:So Michel Gagne is apparently onboard to do FX animation for the movie.

If he doesn't sound familiar, he's a really great FX animator who's done work on The Iron Giant, Osmosis Jones, Brave, Ratatouille, and most recently the in game effects of Battleborn.

http://youtu.be/5Fa8K0nxo9k


http://youtu.be/vN_BTQQBvqQ


http://youtu.be/rKy4BfE2Rhk


So full circle on this, I just learned from the bluray commentary that Lauren Faust was an animator on The Iron Giant. One of her scenes was at the end where Dean hands the package from the military to Hogarth.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:35 am

Little interview with Daniel Ingram about his recent work. On the MLP movie:

Ingram has already composed all of the songs (“I had to challenge myself to push beyond what had been done in the TV show; to write bigger, more epic”) and is currently hard at work on the score, which will ultimately be performed by a live studio orchestra.

“It’s the be-all and end-all for a film composer,” says Ingram. “It’s what you always dream about: to work with a live orchestra, and write on a feature film that’s going to have a big distribution.”


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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:11 am

Considering how good the songs are in the EqG movies, if Daniel Ingram can top that then this movie is going to be glorious.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 1:21 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Considering how good the songs are in the EqG movies, if Daniel Ingram can top that then this movie is going to be glorious.


Totally. Ingram's stuff is already so good, and the extra time and money he'll have on the film can only make things better.

I hadn't considered it earlier, but having him write the score is pretty exciting too. I wonder how different that'll sound when compared with William Anderson's work?
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:14 am

But what if he can't do any better because he has been working so hard on the show that he reached his limit and the songs in the movie come out bad and he gets so shamed he quits the show forever and we get a much worse song guy because who can actually top Ingram's stuff?!
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 3:49 am

Soft Snow wrote:But what if he can't do any better because he has been working so hard on the show that he reached his limit and the songs in the movie come out bad and he gets so shamed he quits the show forever and we get a much worse song guy because who can actually top Ingram's stuff?!
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Yea, I don't think we have to worry about that
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 4:13 am

Soft Snow wrote:But what if he can't do any better because he has been working so hard on the show that he reached his limit and the songs in the movie come out bad and he gets so shamed he quits the show forever and we get a much worse song guy because who can actually top Ingram's stuff?!
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Yeah, this doesn't rank highly on my list of concerns re: the MLP movie. None of the individual parts of this even rank highly.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 7:52 am

PaulloDEC wrote:Ingram has already composed all of the songs (“I had to challenge myself to push beyond what had been done in the TV show; to write bigger, more epic”) and is currently hard at work on the score, which will ultimately be performed by a live studio orchestra.

I hope we get a good orchestra in my theater! :excite:

PaulloDEC wrote:I hadn't considered it earlier, but having him write the score is pretty exciting too. I wonder how different that'll sound when compared with William Anderson's work?

Didn't he do the background score for Magical Mystery Cure?
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 8:35 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:Didn't he do the background score for Magical Mystery Cure?


Oh, I don't think I knew that! Is that the only time Anderson hasn't scored the show?

Might have to pull up Rainshadow's episode playlist and have a listen tonight.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Sep 11, 2016 10:51 am

PaulloDEC wrote:Oh, I don't think I knew that! Is that the only time Anderson hasn't scored the show?


I just noticed on his Facebook that he said there have been four musical episodes: MMC, Pinkie Pride, Hearth's Warming Tale, and Crusaders of the Lost Mark.

"Crusaders of the Lost Mark" credits William Anderson for all of the music.
"Magical Mystery Cure" and "Pinkie Pride" credit Daniel Ingram and Steffan Andrews (his usual assistant).
"Hearth's Warming Tale" credits Daniel Ingram and Caleb Chan (apparently the new orchestrator from season 5 onward).
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:06 am

PaulloDEC wrote:
Yeah, this doesn't rank highly on my list of concerns re: the MLP movie. None of the individual parts of this even rank highly.

You don't even feel a teensy bit worried? Not even tinge of panic gnawing away at the back of your mind that at any moment everything could go horribly wrong?!
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:18 am

Soft Snow wrote:You don't even feel a teensy bit worried? Not even tinge of panic gnawing away at the back of your mind that at any moment everything could go horribly wrong?!
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Absolutely. That has nothing to do with MLP though! :v:
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