S04E14: Filli Vanilli

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Re: S04E14: Filli Vanilli

Postby ilcane87 (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:05 pm

Tailspin wrote:@Headless

About the only difference between Rarity losing her voice and Fluttershy replacing her and Big Mac losing his voice and Fluttershy replacing him is she had a male voice. I don't see how this is "original" or so "pony" then what any other cartoon would've done, other then being another cheap call back (albeit not as poorly handled as the party cannon). Hence why I think this episode could've done without Flutterguy and nothing would be lost, the lesson would be the same, everything would be the same. Flutterguy didn't add anything at all funny or interesting. Personally, I think the episode would've been better if it was Fluttershy's actual voice.

I doubt Fluttershy would've agreed to perform with her real voice in the first place, for fear of being recognized.

Using Flutterguy was a mean to get around that hurdle in the story, as well as a very funny callback (imho, obviously).

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:10 pm

Tailspin wrote:@Headless

About the only difference between Rarity losing her voice and Fluttershy replacing her and Big Mac losing his voice and Fluttershy replacing him is she had a male voice. I don't see how this is "original" or so "pony" then what any other cartoon would've done, other then being another cheap call back (albeit not as poorly handled as the party cannon). Hence why I think this episode could've done without Flutterguy and nothing would be lost, the lesson would be the same, everything would be the same. Flutterguy didn't add anything at all funny or interesting. Personally, I think the episode would've been better if it was Fluttershy's actual voice.

Are you sure? I mean, it is very unusual for a female character to be speaking and singing in such a deep voice (as Pinkie Pie helpfully pointed out later on). The situation did also provide additional awkwardness and social tension after the end of the first performance when Pinkie Pie tried to start chatting up Fluttershy and Rarity had to rush to fill in for her. Sure, it was already strange that Fluttershy was absent from the audience, but by having her unable to speak normally, there's that extra bit of drama.
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Postby The Falcon (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:14 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Nor was it annoyingly belabored, like a million throwaway Simpsons gags that turned into ludicrously overdetailed foreground elements, like Bumblebee Man or Apu and his family—


I HOPE this is just a dis aimed at later season Simpsons, because one of the VERY BEST things about the Simpsons was how it would mine background elements and jokes for future story elements. I may be misunderstanding you, but the exploration of background characters and gags is what gave us many, MANY great Simpsons episodes, such as the one where Apu is fired from the Quickie Mart and the "22 Short Films About Springfield" episode which focused specifically on the background characters (which I still maintain is a plot-line that would make a great Ponies episode, regardless of the general negativity a lot of people seem to have of the writers using background characters as anything but background characters).

Seriously, the rich background characters is kind of one the many things that made Simpsons so great; I don't understand how leaving all of those characters as nothing but one-off gags would have been beneficial to the show. Which I guess is why I'm much less bothered than some when Ponies decides to use background characters more prominently, because I don't think that is a bad thing in of itself and if done properly can really elevate the show (like the Simpsons). As I said, if you are talking about later era Simpsons, where they've run pretty much EVERYTHING into the ground, then I actually agree, but otherwise..... thems fightin' words!
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EDIT: To make this post just a SMIDGEON more on topic, I pretty much loved this episode of Ponies. It was really sweet and the "baby steps" message at the end was just so perfect and true.
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Postby Mordja (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:16 pm

Tailspin wrote:@Headless

About the only difference between Rarity losing her voice and Fluttershy replacing her and Big Mac losing his voice and Fluttershy replacing him is she had a male voice. I don't see how this is "original" or so "pony" then what any other cartoon would've done, other then being another cheap call back (albeit not as poorly handled as the party cannon). Hence why I think this episode could've done without Flutterguy and nothing would be lost, the lesson would be the same, everything would be the same. Flutterguy didn't add anything at all funny or interesting. Personally, I think the episode would've been better if it was Fluttershy's actual voice.

But then everyone, or at the very, very least, all of her friends would have recognized her voice instantly. Like I said, Flutterguy was just another way to disassociate herself from the act of public performance.

E: Whoa, weren't this many replies when I originally typed this. :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:19 pm

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:pcstare: Sun season.

:speakest: Moon season

:pcstare: Sun season.

:speakest: Moon season

:pcstare: Sun season.

:speakest: Moon season

:pcstare: Sun season.

:speakest: Moon season

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:24 pm

Ha, I honestly want to see a scene like that happen in the show. A silly argument by Celestia and Luna over what planetary object is better... :gotcha:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:27 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Ha, I honestly want to see a scene like that happen in the show. A silly argument by Celestia and Luna over what planetary object is better... :gotcha:


:pcstare: When one's planetary object can vaporize yours by being bigger, grander, and more glorious, I'd say it would be a short argument.

:gotcha: Not to mention people can only see the Moon because my Sun shines on it.

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:29 pm

That would be epic. Especially if Celestia could pull a Bugs and make Luna insist it's sun season. :gotcha:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:40 pm

Venusy wrote:Too cruel? Yes. But extremely accurate to the socially anxious thought process?
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Pinkie is just saying it from that perspective - discounting all the positives about it, creating an unhelpful post-mortem of the distorted view of the situation rather than the situation everyone else saw.

I guess ultimately, I can't rectify this role with her being in-character. Perhaps I am caring too much at this stage of the show about consistent characterization...
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 4:42 pm

Well if you look at episodes like "Friend in Deed" Pinkie does have a totally tactless and jerk streak sometimes. She just gets too into it. I do think it went a bit too far, making Fluttershy cry twice, but it's not really out of character behavior for Pinkie.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 5:22 pm

@flutterguy

Yeah, i could see the mask thing, makes sense.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:19 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I guess ultimately, I can't rectify this role with her being in-character. Perhaps I am caring too much at this stage of the show about consistent characterization...


See I thought Pinkie was in character, if admittedly pushed to 11.

Because Pinkie does so much for other people we assume she has a better understanding of people, but I've long thought she's a far worse judge of character than, say, Applejack or Rarity. She just doesn't get social cues. This goes all the way back to the surprise party in the pilot, or her oblivious stalking of Dash in Griffon the Brush-Off. She thinks everybody wants a "six-year old's birthday party" because it's what she wants. Luckily most people are willing to give her the benefit of the doubt because her heart is clearly in the right place.

In-universe I'm not sure what would cause her to be so pissy this episode, but I could see her being genuinely ignorant of how her words might be perceived by someone who isn't her ("does anypony have a toupee?") or even working out some passive-aggressive irritation toward Fluttershy's introversion in her own way ("don't worry, your Auntie Pinkie has it all under control" "I'm a year older than you.")

tl;dr When a pony is pissy toward another pony it's solid gold. When a bunch of ponies are pissy in lockstep (e.g. MMDW) it's icky.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:58 pm

If Pinkie had realized in the middle of her spiel that she was stressing Fluttershy and apologized, it wouldn't have bothered me. As it is, she comes off as being really dumb. I've never thought of Pinkie as being dumb -- ignorant sometimes, but not dumb.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:05 pm

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I HOPE this is just a dis aimed at later season Simpsons, because one of the VERY BEST things about the Simpsons was how it would mine background elements and jokes for future story elements. I may be misunderstanding you, but the exploration of background characters and gags is what gave us many, MANY great Simpsons episodes, such as the one where Apu is fired from the Quickie Mart and the "22 Short Films About Springfield" episode which focused specifically on the background characters (which I still maintain is a plot-line that would make a great Ponies episode, regardless of the general negativity a lot of people seem to have of the writers using background characters as anything but background characters).


Yeah, it was mostly a Zombie Simpsons criticism. I tend to think the thing with Apu's octuplets was about the point when I said to myself "Um, okay, what are we doing here exactly? I wonder if maybe the show wasn't better back before I knew anything about Apu outside of him being that guy with the funny accent who threatens people in his store with a shotgun."

Agreed that the Simpsons writers—in the early years—were the best in the business when it came to using callbacks effectively. But somewhere along the line, some generation of them just lost the plot somehow, lost track of what elements of the universe deserved to be brought forward into the limelight and which ones were only funny when they remained enigmatic. I never wanted to know Karl and Lenny's last names, for example.
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Postby Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:29 pm

God the fucking pun in the fucking title jesus christ. I give this episode a -1/5, 4 for the ep itself and -5 for that fucking pun.

The flashback to Bridle Gossip was awkwardly handled but then again we got Flutterguy saying things in a needlessly deep voice so I can forgive it as necessity. It was seventy fucking episodes ago after all.

I can't forgive the pun though. It's unforgivable.
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Postby The Falcon (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:44 pm

Headless Horse wrote:
Yeah, it was mostly a Zombie Simpsons criticism. I tend to think the thing with Apu's octuplets was about the point when I said to myself "Um, okay, what are we doing here exactly? I wonder if maybe the show wasn't better back before I knew anything about Apu outside of him being that guy with the funny accent who threatens people in his store with a shotgun."

Agreed that the Simpsons writers—in the early years—were the best in the business when it came to using callbacks effectively. But somewhere along the line, some generation of them just lost the plot somehow, lost track of what elements of the universe deserved to be brought forward into the limelight and which ones were only funny when they remained enigmatic. I never wanted to know Karl and Lenny's last names, for example.


This I definitely agree with, and I don't know if it was just because the show had been stretched so far past its sell-date, or if it was just the new generation of writers, or a combination of the two, but they really did run allot of the good background gags/characters into the ground. Same thing happened with season 4 of Community (though with Dan Harmon back, thankfully it seems things are back on track).

I don't think Pony has gotten to that point yet, as they really use their background characters/joke callbacks relatively sparingly. And when they do use them, it mostly feels organic (to me at least, I know there are plenty who would disagree with me on this point).
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:44 pm

I was just thinking on the earlier discussion of how refreshing it is that, when presented with the opportunity to do an episode featuring a musical group, they went with doo-wop/barbershop and not something more contemporary and obvious like pop-rock which would probably test better with girls age 6-10 and allow Hasbro to sell playsets and accessories like microphones and electric guitars and thank god the people associated with this show aren't being influenced by all the profit-margin shit like that.

And then I remembered Equestria Girls 2: Rainbow Rocks, so :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:50 pm

Wayoshi wrote:You know what's really unique about this episode?

We have a straight-up lip synch semi-scandal, true to the episode title. Big Mac kinda struggles but no one is any wiser. So of course eventually, Big Mac will finally tire out, or desynch, and Pinkie / someone will still hear the voice and it's suspiciously coming from backstage... etc. etc. etc.

NO. It's Fluttershy enjoying herself more and more that eventually her groovy moves expose herself.


^^ And this. There's a ton of unique plot here.

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Postby Tears (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:18 pm

PictishBeast wrote:I was just thinking on the earlier discussion of how refreshing it is that, when presented with the opportunity to do an episode featuring a musical group, they went with doo-wop/barbershop and not something more contemporary and obvious like pop-rock which would probably test better with girls age 6-10 and allow Hasbro to sell playsets and accessories like microphones and electric guitars and thank god the people associated with this show aren't being influenced by all the profit-margin shit like that.

And then I remembered Equestria Girls 2: Rainbow Rocks, so :pinkieshrug:


It's cool if they keep it hived off like that though. I'm down with EQG2 as a delivery vehicle for outrageous camp, but if it helps keep a little of the shoe-horning out of MLP proper then all the better. Its success is probably a driving factor behind the continuance of the show too, as creating two revenue streams for it probably helps to justify the continued outlay for animation.

No idea if EQG is definitely helping FiM to continue to exist, but the fact that they got top doll by sales in December (fucking... how? is another question. I'm figuring some really creative reading of metrics, but who knows?) can't have hurt Hasbro's perception of the original magical horse anime concept.

But either way, I agree, the barbershop quartet angle was the right one. I'd really hoped it would turn out that way, since Ponytones is such a lame glee club name, but MLP is such a lame glee club show that Ponytones could have been the name of Equestria's version of Impaled Nazarene or whatever.

But the song was great, and Danny Ingram deserves a ticker tape parade, and Rarity proudly rocking a music club dork jumper and bowtie warmed my heart in ways and dimensions I can't even articulate :allears:

That's the real character development in this episode, ladies and gentlemen :spoiler:

Another thing that I really dug was the fact that the second female vocalist in the Ponytones had a cutie mark with a hat with a card stuck in the ribbon, which I guess means she's a journalist. These people aren't professional musicians, they're just hobbyists who meet up after work sometimes because they like singing.

That's way better than Fluttershy having to stand in for The Hottest Pop Band in Equestria, or whatever, it keeps the stakes nice and low.

I've come round to your perspective on Mr OC Pony Dude though, because first time I watched it, he appeared and he was so immediately significant that I figured he might be a snarky local critic, kind of Ponyville's version of Jim DeRogatis, who'd be the antagonist who ended up unmasking Fluttershy. And that's a lot of immediate assumption to make based on the fact that the character is so obviously someone who's going to appear in a sec.

I don't think it's that big a deal - people actually saying "Flutterguy" was much more immersion-breaking for me - but I agree that it's maybe best to not. Or if animators are livening things up for themselves by adding versions of people they know, to do it more so the scene backgrounds are less "two Lyras, three Carrot Tops, and THAT ONE DUDE WITH A BLACK SWEATER AND THICK-RIMMED GLASSES AND A SIDE-PARTING".

I loved Zipporwhill though, she was cute as the dickens and can come back on the show whenever she feels like it, goddammit :rainbert:

But anyways, I feel like this was the most direct Fluttershy and Rarity episode since Green Isn't Your Colour, and Rarity was so amazing playing back-up. She was immediately understanding when Flutters said no, was hugely supportive when Fluttershy came on board, and agreed to all those shows when she realised how much Fluttershy loved performing, without ever making her feel embarrassed by bringing it up. Their friendship is my favourite thing in the show, and it drove the whole episode.

(incidentally, my For Your Consideration ballot for the Rarity noises showreel this ep: "Isn't it wonderful when a plan comes together without any draaaaaah-maaa" and then the little noise she makes when they nuzzle each other. Tabitha was pretty restrained this ep (in a good way), but the phrasing on that line was pure Mae West :vogue: )
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:41 pm

Tears wrote:But anyways, I feel like this was the most direct Fluttershy and Rarity episode since Green Isn't Your Colour, and Rarity was so amazing playing back-up. She was immediately understanding when Flutters said no, was hugely supportive when Fluttershy came on board, and agreed to all those shows when she realised how much Fluttershy loved performing, without ever making her feel embarrassed by bringing it up. Their friendship is my favourite thing in the show, and it drove the whole episode.


That look she gives her, like right after the second time Fluttershy volunteers to be part of the next performance—that "Ohhh, I see what you did there" narrow-eyed smile. :allears:
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Postby Tears (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:43 pm

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That look she gives her, like right after the second time Fluttershy volunteers to be part of the next performance—that "Ohhh, I see what you did there" narrow-eyed smile. :allears:


That look, all mixed affection and indulgence and happiness for her friend, like she's just realising what this means to Fluttershy and how great it is that it would mean this much to Fluttershy.


I want to build a small tree fort in the sky for this episode.

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Before the draaaaah-maa

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After Fluttershy's debut

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The moment when Rarity realises what's going on with Fluttershy

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"Well, I suppose"

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And because it's rad to see Rarity so unselfconsciously enjoying something.

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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:13 pm

Tears wrote:Ponytones is such a lame glee club name, but MLP is such a lame glee club show


Yes. YES. This should be enshrined in the MLP mission statement or something. At its best, the show is an old-school slice-of-life comedy about cute talking animals. And it wins you over even if you're a bitter cynic who's seen all this shit before because it's so sincere.

Whenever the show adds too many winky pop-culture parodies I want to yell "You're not cool, pony show! You will never be cool! Just be yourself." :flutterunsmith:
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:18 pm

Tears wrote:I've come round to your perspective on Mr OC Pony Dude though, because first time I watched it, he appeared and he was so immediately significant that I figured he might be a snarky local critic, kind of Ponyville's version of Jim DeRogatis, who'd be the antagonist who ended up unmasking Fluttershy. And that's a lot of immediate assumption to make based on the fact that the character is so obviously someone who's going to appear in a sec.

I don't think it's that big a deal - people actually saying "Flutterguy" was much more immersion-breaking for me - but I agree that it's maybe best to not. Or if animators are livening things up for themselves by adding versions of people they know, to do it more so the scene backgrounds are less "two Lyras, three Carrot Tops, and THAT ONE DUDE WITH A BLACK SWEATER AND THICK-RIMMED GLASSES AND A SIDE-PARTING".


It's not just his design that's the problem. The weirdest thing about Pegasus Dad is the big musical flourish they played when he first arrives at the concert. His too-unique design, the long scene where he sits down and the camera holds on him, and the musical flourish all point to him being someone important. But then he's just some guy with a few lines then disappears. It's a really strange misuse of direction that's supposed to nudge the audience into noticing an Important Plot Pony, but he just turns out to be a nobody. I hope the director/animators/whoever it was isn't so indulgent in the future with OCs.
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:29 pm

My god, my head is still swimming over this episode! I need to rewatch it ASAP, but this is my new favorite of the season! So fucking great, what else can I even say? :ponydrugs:
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Postby Tears (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:32 pm

@RainbowCrash: That's a really good point, it was everything, wasn't it? They stopped short of putting THIS GUY RIGHT HERE in huge letters on the screen.

It's so blatant I wonder if it was intentional misdirection. Like "Here this guy and he got a musical sting, and he's got a new design, and so's his daughter, and he looks pretty serious, and he just sat down right in front of Spike like a jerk and he's got a music cutie mark and and an- oh, he wants them to play his daughter's party. Huh."

@London: ditto. I can't talk about it without blathering like an idiot. I don't think I'l be able to say anything coherent about it as an episode for days yet. I am basically never questioning an episode concept ahead of time ever again.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:36 pm

OC Donut Steel. :gotcha:
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Postby AlliterativeAxolotl (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 9:53 pm

This episode just made me smile all the way through, just like the last few episodes did :allears:

It was just so great to see them taking a by-the-book story and somehow turning it into something that felt alive and real; the pragmatism in using the poison joke to give Fluttershy a deeper voice, Fluttershy more and more enjoying herself, the reveal NOT being a big thing like it would have been in any other show - with booing and accusations of fraud, but people actually cheering on Fluttershy just because it was such a good show - and the ending, which showed us that baby steps, just in real life, are actually a pretty huge thing for someone who wants to overcome something like stage fright or anxiety.

Also, Pinkie Pie being tactless and accidentally cruel was funny, but only - or especially so - because she was called out on it. Yes, it was over the top cruelty, but she didn't mean it that way - she wanted to help, and, let's be honest, it did help, didn't it? She put Fluttershy's internal thoughts and fears into words, and thus made them easier to grasp and manage for Fluttershy and everyone else.


Finally, whoever said that all Fluttershy episodes have been near-perfect so far? Spot on :allears:
Her character arc is the most believable and relatable, I think. It spans the entire show, and while it's true that "Fluttershy overcomes her shyness" may become a bit boring after a while as a story summary, it's never just that, as we've just seen again.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:01 pm

PictishBeast wrote:I was just thinking on the earlier discussion of how refreshing it is that, when presented with the opportunity to do an episode featuring a musical group, they went with doo-wop/barbershop and not something more contemporary and obvious like pop-rock which would probably test better with girls age 6-10 and allow Hasbro to sell playsets and accessories like microphones and electric guitars and thank god the people associated with this show aren't being influenced by all the profit-margin shit like that.

And then I remembered Equestria Girls 2: Rainbow Rocks, so :pinkieshrug:

If EqG is to be the sacrificial lamb at Hasbro's altar of consumerism, well, I will be happy with that. The less they meddle with FiM, the better.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:56 pm

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It's not just his design that's the problem. The weirdest thing about Pegasus Dad is the big musical flourish they played when he first arrives at the concert. His too-unique design, the long scene where he sits down and the camera holds on him, and the musical flourish all point to him being someone important. But then he's just some guy with a few lines then disappears. It's a really strange misuse of direction that's supposed to nudge the audience into noticing an Important Plot Pony, but he just turns out to be a nobody. I hope the director/animators/whoever it was isn't so indulgent in the future with OCs.



Well what would you say about Hurricane Fluttershy which had a ton of very unique looking new ponies, some full on BG ponies, some with one or two lines.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:00 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:If EqG is to be the sacrificial lamb at Hasbro's altar of consumerism, well, I will be happy with that. The less they meddle with FiM, the better.



Yeah it's a nice medium. EQG gets the bulk of Hasbro mandates, then FIM only has to deal with it for the most parts in the season ops & ends. * Ala naming the op princess Twilight & doing Rainbow power/kingdom for the finale*.

So I agree let EQG be the cooperate slave if it gives FIM more freedom!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:12 pm

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Well what would you say about Hurricane Fluttershy which had a ton of very unique looking new ponies, some full on BG ponies, some with one or two lines.

It helped that Hurricane Fluttershy was introducing a ton of new ponies at once, so even though many of them had distinctive names and appearances, none of them especially stood out from the rest of the episode. Pegasus Dad just got plopped down in a crowd of otherwise normal ponies, though. If he were just being used as a "ha ha, a big dude just totally blocked Spike's view" joke then that would've been fine, and if you're introducing a character like Zipporwhill then it makes sense to have a new pony for her father, but things like his glasses, his neckbeard, and his sweater felt like a bit too much for someone so unimportant.
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Postby MochaBean (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:17 pm

Plus, all the new ponies in HF were consistent with the show's design language, so they looked like they belonged there.

Zipporwhill's dad, on the other hand, was like the opposite of a horsie moment.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:18 pm

Well the dad did have a guitar cutie mark, maybe he has an important job in the Equstrian music industry. Thus his appearance, Maybe he'll give the pony tones a record deal in season 5. XD
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:18 pm

See, that's the thing- to us, he's unimportant. But to Zipporwhill, that's her daddy! He's the best daddy ever, because he got the Ponytones to sing at her party! Also more exclamation points!

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He's a dad that's spoiling the peanuts out of his little girl, that's who he is. I can guarantee you there's a non-zero number of dads out there watching this show with their daughters who are more than a little freaked out that they appear to have been inserted wholesale into the very show they're watching.

:gotcha: Well played, pony show.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:40 pm

The Doctor wrote:Well what would you say about Hurricane Fluttershy which had a ton of very unique looking new ponies, some full on BG ponies, some with one or two lines.

There wasn't a moment in HF where the show stopped and had a big fanfare when Cloudchaser or Bulk Biceps sat down at the tornado briefing. That's the difference. I like new designs for background ponies, but I'm more puzzled with the direction here than anything.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:18 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:If EqG is to be the sacrificial lamb at Hasbro's altar of consumerism, well, I will be happy with that. The less they meddle with FiM, the better.


I agree. If Pony ain't broke, don't fix it. :bluh:
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Postby Discord (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:40 am

We are effectively giving up pony movies in that deal though. :fluttersmith:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:44 am

Discord wrote:We are effectively giving up pony movies in that deal though. :fluttersmith:

Which is why I will always say Fuck EqGirls, for the moment.

Anyways, back on-topic... I could totally go for a "Fluts is hesitant on doing something, super creepy look into her head scene or two, moderate progress in the most cute way" episode every season. Would never get old at all. :allears:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:46 am

Discord wrote:We are effectively giving up pony movies in that deal though. :fluttersmith:



Think of it this way, Pony is just too good for a movie! :party:


And yeah I know that doesn't make sense, but hey, where's the fun in making sense!? :excellent:
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Postby Veradox (?) » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:54 am

I don't know where to begin with this episode, it succeeded in every way possible. I have social anxiety myself, so this was a very relatable episode, and by the end, I was bawling my eyes out. I can't clarify how much I absolutely loved this episode. It may take the prize as my favorite episode of the show so far. 10/10. :yay:
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