S04E18: Maud Pie

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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:24 pm

This episode led me to have a look at MTV's Daria.

They're definitely not the same character. Daria is cynical, jaded, and sardonic, while Maud is genuine* and while she does find common ground with the other ponies, she does not actively dislike them.


* sure you could read her as a giant put-on over the silly world of pink and purple ponies obsessed with making friends.
I.e. Wearing a dishrag and stone facedly watching Rarity bend herself out of shape while Pinkie beams.


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:cheese: That's my Maud!
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Postby ComradeCosmobot (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:57 pm

doodlesplat wrote:This episode is about Maud Pie. The title of this episode is Maud Pie. Image


Now you've got me thinking that Maud Pie is the pony form of Perd Hapley. (But she's not quite as exuberant as Perd)
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:59 pm

Can I get in on this weeks round table, please?
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Postby Wylie (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 3:38 pm

I would love to participate in this weeks' Round Table, as well.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:46 pm

The line "It doesn't speak. It's a dress." really does come off as a deadpan version of something Pinkie would say. Remember when Twilight said she had to "hit the books"?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:02 pm

Pocket wrote:Remember when Twilight said she had to "hit the books"?

Pinkie does!

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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:39 pm

Pocket wrote:The line "It doesn't speak. It's a dress." really does come off as a deadpan version of something Pinkie would say. Remember when Twilight said she had to "hit the books"?


I seriously love the little head turn she does when she says that. Can't tell if she's serious, joking or making a sick burn :v:
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Postby ReallyLikeHerMane (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:36 pm

I really liked this episode. The only part that breaks the immersion for me is the final line, which I think could have been clipped and left to the viewer to pick up the implication.

"I don't really like candy -(Clip it here.)- But I do love pinkie pie."
The smile she gives after the first part is good enough in my opinion. Maud is awkward and such, so it's believable that she'd say the full line, I just think it would have been more impactful if it was left unsaid.

But that aside, it's a great episode. Lots of humor, and done in a way that makes it so that we're laughing at the interaction between Maud and the Mane 6 rather than Maud specifically.

I've reached a point in my fandom of the show where I love it enough that basically all my comments on episodes are negatives, because they are the only noteworthy thing... Ofcourse it's great. It's pone. Why would I state the obvious? :smug:
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Postby Kitsune (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:38 pm

ReallyLikeHerMane wrote:"I don't really like candy -(Clip it here.)- But I do love pinkie pie."
The smile she gives after the first part is good enough in my opinion. Maud is awkward and such, so it's believable that she'd say the full line, I just think it would have been more impactful if it was left unsaid.


I dunno, leaving it at 'I don't really like candy' kinda implies she's messing with Pinkie. It makes it seem like the punchline is that Maud never cared about the necklaces because she never bothered to eat them, when the punchline is really that she isn't like Pinkie and doesn't share her sweet tooth but still genuinely loves her sister.

I mean, like, the line could have worked, but it would've been easy to come to the wrong conclusion, and I think it was a little bit necessary to make it less ambiguous.
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Postby BartonFink (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:45 pm

I actually had a similar thought about the line being too expository - I think it would've been fully implied, I got it without the second part and kinda liked it more without that there.

But yeah, kid's show, probably better to spell it out.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:39 pm

Let's combine them.

She goes "You know..."

And then glances at Pinkie on the train.

Maud slightly smiles.

"...I don't even like candy."
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:50 pm

I don't really like candy.

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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:38 am

My personal ranking for this episode is in my sig.

Has the autism spectrum come up in this thread yet? Because I would be surprised if the autism spectrum didn't come up in this thread.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:46 am

Passport Clean wrote:Has the autism spectrum come up in this thread yet? Because I would be surprised if the autism spectrum didn't come up in this thread.

Are you saying that you think Maud is autistic? Because no, it hasn't come up in this thread.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:49 am

Passport Clean wrote:My personal ranking for this episode is in my sig.


I can't figure out half of those abbreviations.
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:51 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Are you saying that you think Maud is autistic?


No, I didn't state my opinion of Maud, but I've seen how characters like this are usually discussed. I'm legit surprised that the topic hasn't come up at all.

I can't figure out half of those abbreviations.


Unfortunately the sigs have a character limit. For me personally, Maud Pie was solid upper-mid tier, on the same level as Rarity Takes manehattan, Filli Vanilli, and It Ain't Easy Being Breezies.
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Postby Quanta (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:58 am

So Maud is a Steven Wright pony, right? :v:

My name is Maud, not Steven. Image

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Postby Amethyst_Gem (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:35 am

In retrospect, I feel silly for going out of my way for heralding Image as G4's 'version' of G1 Wind Whistler,
when two weeks later, Pony puts forth Image , who is clearly far more similar to W.W.'s usual emotional output and mannerisms... I mean, just look at the smilies and there's a world of difference.:gotcha:
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Postby acksed (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:56 am

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It's not even the little touches - it's realizing that they take said little touches and often go that extra step. It's not just Maud feeding Boulder a sandwich - it's him devouring it when you're not looking. Or the frames you KNOW they slip in there because fans are going to freezeframe it and laugh/WAT their heads off, like Slenderpony. The animators aren't just making the show, they're having little shows inside the show, that 110% where the 10% is subtle but says "Hey, we <3 this stuff.".

It's part of what keeps me watching.

Hell yes. That Winter Wrap-up pic upthread showed me something I'd never spotted before - Twi, bless her OCPD heart, categorised and sorted the straws and ribbons by length, type and colour. :lol:

We need a thread of Nice Touches.
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:57 am

Passport Clean wrote:Has the autism spectrum come up in this thread yet? Because I would be surprised if the autism spectrum didn't come up in this thread.


No, but I may or may not have brought it up with my partner while we were watching the episode. :spoiler:
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Postby Zuzie (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:52 am

Passport Clean wrote:Has the autism spectrum come up in this thread yet? Because I would be surprised if the autism spectrum didn't come up in this thread.


Before the episode aired I sorta mentioned that I wasn't going to be surprised that people were probably going to internet diagnose her with something since they already do that with half the mane 6 already.

Considering her mannerisms, she does raise a few alarms both in-universe and out that her behavior lies somewhere outside the norm. At the same time though, her behavior could also be a result of her and her sister's rather strange upbringing. Or maybe she just didn't want to make friends with Pinkie's friends in the first place.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:19 am

Passport Clean wrote:My personal ranking for this episode is in my sig.

Has the autism spectrum come up in this thread yet? Because I would be surprised if the autism spectrum didn't come up in this thread.


Please stop posting stupid posts like this. You are on notice. I'm tired of reading your "but the fandom thinks" posts. They're white noise, they add nothing, and they are making things lousy. Have some original thoughts for a change.
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:19 am

Pro post right here by WanderingPony



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Postby MochaBean (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:26 am

Man, even Gummy is bummed out. That's pretty harsh. :starity:

Notice the missing rabbit; Angel is too good to hang out with the common pets. :nuhuh:
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Postby Zuzie (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:30 am

MochaBean wrote:Notice the missing rabbit; Angel is too good to hang out with the common pets. :nuhuh:


He was with Fluttershy. He's the one who pointed out that the other pets were bored out of their minds.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:21 am

Made a Maud-themed mix for our music guessing game over in Foreign Lands (also we need more participants in said games):

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:06 am

Seeing Gummy being annoyed like that was one of my favourite jokes of the entire episode.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:44 am

Zuzie wrote:Considering her mannerisms, she does raise a few alarms both in-universe and out that her behavior lies somewhere outside the norm. At the same time though, her behavior could also be a result of her and her sister's rather strange upbringing. Or maybe she just didn't want to make friends with Pinkie's friends in the first place.

Maud's behavior didn't worry me. Is it a problem that she should be rather quiet and unexpressive? Yes, it's abnormal for both human and pony, but it still felt real.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:28 am

I'm willing to say she did seen a bit poorly socialized. Not debilitatingly so—after all, she's not a recluse, she's studying at a university somewhere—but as a conscious choice. Some of her behaviors toward the Mane 6 seemed more like she was deliberately trying not to be likable, than that she didn't know how to be.

When they gathered at Pinkie's door, I got the feeling that what really made their message awkward was not that "we haven't broken through Maud's shell yet", but rather "We just don't like her very much".
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:09 pm

That's how I saw her, too. Maud wanted to visit her little sister before going off for grad school, but Pinkie (being Pinkie) assumed Maud just had to share this same experience she'd had in Ponyville. Thing is, what's wonderful for Pinkie is awkward to the point of annoyingness for Maud, and while she wasn't mean about it, she also made no effort to humor Pinkie either. The other five caught onto this quickly, but in her immaturity Pinkie took it as a great tragedy when the others told her as such.
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:05 pm

Dr. Jamming wrote:I'd have to disagree a bit. The whole "He was hiding in my pocket..." bit was clearly the kind of thing that an older sister would do to let a hyperactive and oblivious Pinky burn off a bit of energy and wear herself out. Doing it with the others was having a bit of fun at their expense. It's the same with smashing apples to paste with a rock. Either she has no idea what the hell she's doing(unlikely), or she's trolling a bit(yep). It goes the same with Rarity's dishtowel. She's fundamentally good, and quite pony, but she's definitely amusing herself by screwing with people.


I think the only time she might have been trolling was with the hide & seek. And that was as you said, a big sister letting the hyper younger sister burn off some energy but the others got sucked into it. I actually think she was being genuine in how she acted with the others. It simply would of broken the feel of the episode if she was being snarky and trolling.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:15 pm

Yeah, I have to think that Maud was genuine in the episode. It was simply that she and the rest of the Main Six didn't have anything in common or at least didn't get to what they did have.
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:52 pm

She's getting her PhD in geology and that tells me all I need to know about her behavior. If this show was allowed to also show a vat full of beer constantly at her side you'd have a complete picture.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:25 am

Frosthawk wrote:She's getting her PhD in geology and that tells me all I need to know about her behavior. If this show was allowed to also show a vat full of beer constantly at her side you'd have a complete picture.


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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:41 am

Image I just traded the Rolling Rock for an IPA. Care for a pint?
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:cheese: Aww, what's the matter? Too hoppy?


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Postby Big Boss (?) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:29 pm

Due to several factors, the RT is ready now. I can send it to Doc and Wylie of course, but if anyone else wants to gush discuss things, please say so.
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Postby acksed (?) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:59 pm

kefkafloyd wrote:Due to several factors, the RT is ready now. I can send it to Doc and Wylie of course, but if anyone else wants to gush discuss things, please say so.

I'll stick my oar in and say that I thought Maud was a rather good way of getting across the difference between introverts and extroverts. I mean, when she was introduced, I thought, "No wonder Pinkie left, if they're all that boring." By the end of it, I was thinking, "She's a good big sister, regardless." She might not emote much, but she does demonstrate her love for Pinkie. :allears:
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:07 pm

I just love how they came off as equally weird but in totally different ways. You can tell that while they may have different ideologies, they still come from the same family. :allears:
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:43 am

This episode was rooted in character personalities and how they interact, and all characters came off as genuine. This is what poni does best.

An excellent episode. </chef excellence>
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