S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

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Re: S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 5:53 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Image <-- note the semi-alicorn mane

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The show's designs win over the toys', again. :v:


Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash are really the only ones rocking that look...
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 5:58 pm

The colors are kinda bad, but not the worst. The extra cutie marks just for the stickers part of the toy puts it into toyetic category.

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gg Twi, gg.

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 5:59 pm

Owlicious should live in the Friendship Castle. Then he could drive Spike crazy by going "Who? WHOO?" and having it echo through the halls. :whyme:

And dopey me...I just realized the characters in the rainbow scene are there because they're the ones who were affected by the Mane 6 getting thier keys.

:-/ As I mentioned earlier in the show.

:bluh: Aw, don't pick on him...he's just a little slow on the uptake. Like Granny Smith.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 5:59 pm

I wish the big action sequence had come after the box got opened, so that the other 5 could have joined in the awesome. Would have made it seem more like a team effort rather than them just being there. Especially with the ending them emphasizing the role all of them have in this. It comes off less...

:excite: Only together than we stop this evil!

and more...

:-I OK, you 5 are basically the fuses on the machine, stand there and I'll charge the laser.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:00 pm

Honestly Discord's turn made sense. As was said earlier, he not only didn't give up Twilight right away, but he treated Tirec like a friend. And after it was all gone, he was just as hurt by Tirec as Fluttershy was by him, as indicated by the repetition of the "should have seen it coming" line. And in the end, I really felt he learned his lesson.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:00 pm

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Postby acksed (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:10 pm

This was a good episode - Discord was handled well, they actually addressed almost all the concerns regarding Twi's princess status, had a call-back to an incidental detail that turned out to be important, brought back a credible Tirek and minimised the toyeticity. But that's not why I like this.

I know it's not mature, but I have been waiting for some epic magic battles ever since the show started (I blame /co/ and /tg/). Twi is the wizardest wizard who ever wizzed, ergo fireballs and lightning should have been the order of the day.

A Canterlot Wedding had some (Gatling Twi :-P ), but it was disappointing to see Celestia taken out at the start.

Magic Duel was a tease.

Princess Twilight's Luna/Celestia duel flashback was pretty damn tense, but I wanted Twilight to zap more.

Twilight's Kingdom finally, finally delivers a full-on, objectively epic clash that I can point to and say, "See? My Little Pony is badass." :wingsright:

Eeee that was so coool :ponydrugs:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:14 pm

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I don't know if there was an obligatory Fluts :allears: moment this week. I'll have to settle for kinda cute SadShy. :fluttersmith:

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:starity: :starity:

But while we're here, let's see some of what Discord conjured up this time...

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:lol: Everyone probably missed this since it was 2 frames at most

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Toucord, Discord's finest feat apparently. :excellent:

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:excellent: : Friendship is magiccccccc :amazing:

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Postby !saak (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:16 pm

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :flail: :awesomedash: :allears: :-D

Can't stop gushing

also I noticed an animation error

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:16 pm

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Discord has a Madoka Witch labyrinth inside him. :starity:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:26 pm

Wayoshi wrote:The show's designs win over the toys', again. :v:


They're probably hard to reproduce in toy form, anyway.
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:modesty: Oh this is much more manageable.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:33 pm

This was awesome. Concerns were addressed decently, and holy shit that dbz fight. Now it's party time!
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Postby Eshe (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 6:41 pm

AHHH, I'm trying really hard to keep my eyes closed in this thread. :yay:

Has anyone seen/found the finale online yet? I haven't seen it yet! Ahhh, the only time I don't like Canada... T_T
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Postby acksed (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 7:01 pm

Eshe wrote:AHHH, I'm trying really hard to keep my eyes closed in this thread. :yay:

Has anyone seen/found the finale online yet? I haven't seen it yet! Ahhh, the only time I don't like Canada... T_T

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTgIRBG01j0
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 7:10 pm

I don't think I've ever been this bored during a pony episode. Geez, "trying too hard" is what I'd call this, everything, from the forced LOOK HOW SERIOUS EVERYTHING IS to the whole thing with Discord (who continues to be an insufferable ass and of course all is forgiven), it's McCarthy trying to make this all "epic". The pointless fight between Twilight and Tirek looks like it's out of some other cartoon.

It suffers from the same "everything is soooo epic and serious guys" problems that PTS did, but unlike PTS this didn't have anything good to bring it out of it's "epic" gutter. Generic, boring and trying too hard. I would put this episode down there with KCAFO as one of the worst episodes the show has produced.

Oh yeah, they referanced G1, that was nice i guess (Bronies will just continue to shit on it as usual) and the rainbow designs aren't completly terrible.
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Postby Minty (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 7:25 pm

I'm glad Scorpan was mentioned in this episode. Obviously he couldn't be associated with Spike like in G1, but it was a nice touch.

Now I want to see an episode with Scorpan.
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Postby Lapis Infinitas (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 7:43 pm

I really thought Discord was gonna pull off a double cross. Nope, he's just a jerk. :fluttersmith:
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Postby Mordja (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 7:49 pm

So if Discord hadn't turned traitor, you think the Princesses' plan would have worked out? :ponder:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 7:52 pm

Mordja wrote:So if Discord hadn't turned traitor, you think the Princesses' plan would have worked out? :ponder:


Well if Discord had been planing a double cross, Celestia's plan to hide Twilight would have made sense. Celestia wanting to hide Twilight right after talking about how Discord betrayed them, made that whole side-plot really stupid. It wasn't even essential to the story, and I really wonder why it was in there at all.
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Postby Strangest Letter (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:03 pm

The Doctor wrote:
Well if Discord had been planing a double cross, Celestia's plan to hide Twilight would have made sense. Celestia wanting to hide Twilight right after talking about how Discord betrayed them, made that whole side-plot really stupid. It wasn't even essential to the story, and I really wonder why it was in there at all.


I choose to believe in my ridiculous theory.

Bravinim wrote:I'm just going to assume that giving Twilight all the alicorn magic was just so she would have a greater chance of making an "Important decision about magic" and that "Tirek won't know about a forth princess" was just an excuse.

It certainly wouldn't be the silliest gambit Celestia has ever made. :dwi:
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Postby Crow (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:06 pm

Amazing episode. :whatsup:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:11 pm

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I choose to believe in my ridiculous theory.



Well, Celestia did show no surprise at Twilight's new digs, and even in the opener, she only said she didn't know where the keys were.
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Postby Eshe (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:13 pm

:fluttercite: BEST EPISODE EVER. :fluttercite:

Omigosh, omigosh, omigosh! :awesomedash: :gotcha: :twonk: :crack: :flail:

I just... :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you everyone who linked/sent me a link to the show. Clearly I'm internet dumb, because I couldn't find them myself. :v:

I loved this episode. Tryhard is my favourite character and to see her reach this level of awesomeness? Especially once she was really allowed to let go of her magic and go ballistic on Tirek. :awesomedash: Most. Epic. Fight. Ever. I loved her insecurities at the beginning, her being crushed that Discord was chosen over her, trying to hide the excess Alicorn magic, her horror of the library being demolished an just everything. Oh, and of course she gets another tree as a castle, haha. Are you sure you're a pony, Twilight? You have wings and sure like hanging out in trees.

And of course, Applejack. xD "Jumping junebugs!" Oh AJ, you always say the best things. <3 Plus, she's the best cynic toward Discord.
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Postby Dragongem (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:21 pm

Fun episode. Was with the Gala crew in Chicago so we had a blast reacting to it. I think I liked the S3 finale more but I really enjoyed this one so it's more like "This cake was better than this cake".
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:22 pm

:v: So can we assume the friendship beam that flew across Equestria at the end blasted all the asshole out of Spitfire and Fleetfoot?
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:32 pm

Anyone else Notice Discord totally stole Blyth's Scooter. :v:

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Postby Minty (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:35 pm

I didn't. That's awesome.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:35 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Anyone else Notice Discord totally stole Blyth's Scooter. :v:

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More proof that Celestia is Zoe. She brought the moped back with her and gave to Discord.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:45 pm

Does this mean all Hub shows exist in the same universe? :gotcha:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:47 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Does this mean all Hub shows exist in the same universe? :gotcha:


Same multiverse anyway. :-P I eagerly await Twy to find the magic mirror that takes them to Cybertron! :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:47 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Does this mean all Hub shows exist in the same universe? :gotcha:


:twiright: I've been arguing a link between MLP and LPS for months. LPS is where Celestia and Luna go to relax.


:speakest: tell me again why we come to this world?

:pcstare: To relax. Isn't it nice not to have all our royal responsibilities for a few hours? You even get to practice your comedy for next Nightmare Night.

:unenthused: but why am I a skunk and why are you a dog that looks like Twilight Sparkle?

:pcstare: I suspect that the girl who takes care of us might be Rainbow Dash, and I want to see if she says anything.

:gotcha: and you're a skunk because your comedy stinks.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:48 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:I do have to admit, I'm also left with the same unease as last season's ending. I'm not going to go moaning about the how everything's ruined forever, but it's the same sort of "Something huge has changed! See you in nine months!" development. I'm glad we already know season 5's been approved, but we're right back where we were at the start of the season, asking, "How is being a princess going to affect Twilight and the others?"

I have a vague bit of that feeling, but overall I feel much better about what this episode has set up than what MMC had. Back then I was worried that Twilight would be ruined, and while much of this season was not good for her, today's episode did a lot to redeem her in my eyes. Now I am concerned about how the new castle will affect things, and I am sad that the library got destroyed, but for me the locations of this show have never been anywhere near as important as the characters.
Wayoshi wrote:Image <-- note the semi-alicorn mane

I honestly thought that, even if the Rainbow Power did wear off, at the end of this Twilight would have a wavy mane like this forever.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 8:53 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:
I do have to admit, I'm also left with the same unease as last season's ending. I'm not going to go moaning about the how everything's ruined forever, but it's the same sort of "Something huge has changed! See you in nine months!" development. I'm glad we already know season 5's been approved, but we're right back where we were at the start of the season, asking, "How is being a princess going to affect Twilight and the others?"


I had issues with this episode, but this wasn't one of them for me. I don't think much has changes except for Twilight's residence. She's still not ruling anything, she's still a bit of a dork, she's just had her princesshood defined by ambiguous "friendship", which while it's good for her mental state, it doesn't really change anything.

Rainbow Power is just Elements of Harmony 2.0.
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Postby Ransom (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:30 pm

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Well if Discord had been planing a double cross, Celestia's plan to hide Twilight would have made sense. Celestia wanting to hide Twilight right after talking about how Discord betrayed them, made that whole side-plot really stupid. It wasn't even essential to the story, and I really wonder why it was in there at all.


Strategically thinking this through:

Celestia apparently (correctly) guessed Discord would hide that fact from Tirek even if he was teaming up with him. I'm basically putting my own spin on things but I tend to look at it as a strategic move to buy time for Twilight to find the key, or at least practice with her new power, while also increasing the chance for a victory in a one on one fight when Tirek inevitably betrayed Discord. The 4 of them had no shot dealing with Discord's chaos magic and Tirek's energy absorbing abilities, but once he absorbed Discord's magic, he simply became ultra powerful. Note he didn't seem to gain any reality altering powers, or he simply didn't know how to use them. His attacks were all brute force. Spread out over 4 alicorns the magic wouldn't have been enough but Twilight all by herself fought Tirek to a stalemate, to the point that he apparently felt the need to pull the hostage card.

Could Celestia with all the power have fought better than Twilight? I don't know, though there's the unstated point that Twilight still needs to unlock the box.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:49 pm

:awesomedash: :awesomedash: :awesomedash: :awesomedash:

By the gods, what a joy to watch.

I was on the edge of my seat, holy crap :twonk:

Went in completely blind and it was incredibly rewarding.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 9:59 pm

:excellent: Where's my throne?

:pcstare: You're not ready yet, Discord.

:excellent: Well, if you think I'm waiting a whole season, you're crazy. I'll pick a chair up at Wal-Mare...and I'm charging it to your account.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:45 pm

What did everyone think of the songs this episode? I can't even hum a few bars off the top of my head. I didn't think they were bad, but apparently they weren't too memorable for me.

I do remember some of the neat animations during the Princess's song though.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:46 pm

The songs were kinda...there. Like they were just to fulfill the Hasbro mandate and nothing more.
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Postby Thaddeus (?) » Sat May 10, 2014 10:48 pm

I thought the Princess song was pretty good. Remember the Rainbow wasn't that great though. Harmless enough either way.
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