S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

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Re: S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:19 am

I think Celestia and the other princesses will be okay.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:25 am

Much as I agree with the failure to explore some of the most interesting characters, I think the point has been made in sufficient threads by now that Celestia is underutilized, and it can be left to rest until at least Saturday
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:03 am

Dexanth wrote:I can deal with things because Not-Tirek who is totally going to be actually Tirek is going to make it all worth it.


He's already one-upped most bad guys.

He torches Twilight's library with a dark-magic fueled fireball, you can see it trailing green sparks as it whooshes in to incinerate Twilight's treehouse.

I would be very, very happy it it turned out to be a Tirek Returns scenario. At that point, the generational circle would become complete.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:13 am

If only FIM not-Tirek could have been voiced by that Transformers narrator again, like in G1...

I'd have settled for Steve Blum though. :v:

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Postby Dexanth (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:32 am

ShieldedDiamond wrote:If only FIM not-Tirek could have been voiced by that Transformers narrator again, like in G1...

I'd have settled for Steve Blum though. :v:



Funny story : He actually does a voice in Bravest Warriors, and I was watching on Pasture with Perry & co when he came on. I did a double take and was like 'Wait, was that...?'

And it was. It was like his third role since finishing Transformers in 1987. :v:
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:38 am

:crack: Oh right, I remember seeing that! He was the horse, right? He has such an awesome voice.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 3:23 am

The S4 train has entered the yard limits of it's destination, and will soon be stopping at the depot. :fluttersmith:
I still have Midwest Brony Fest to look forward to towards the end of the month (anybody else here going?), but after that nothing. :gonkity:

DerFurShur wrote:And then they all become alicorns, form a new empire and soon take over Equestria.

:twiright: :allears: :shenanigans: :twasnothin: :vogue: :3: "As nature intended"


I want to see that happen too much. Just for the reactions. :smirk: :scheming:

I hope the princess's power loss is only a temp thing. I think that would drag the show down too much.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 3:46 am

I hope they don't lose sight of the basic formula that makes this show great...seven close friends, who happen to be ponies and a dragon, living life and occasionally saving the world. :excite: :twasnothin: :dreamworks: :vogue: :awkward: :-) :dearcelestia:
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Postby Corpy (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 5:25 am

PonyHag714 wrote:Don't let us down DHX. You've delivered all season, now it's the bottom of the 9th, tie game, bases loaded in Game 7 of the World Series. Time to hit a grand slam. :awesomedash:

In the scenario you describe, a grand slam is not necessary. Any play which advances the runner at third base to home wins the game. Could be a single, a walk, even a passed ball, or if there are fewer than two outs, a sacrifice fly.
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Postby Momo (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 5:32 am

So what's the count on the number of times there's been a huge meltdown speculating about a season finale that turned out pretty good and had a great followup season? Complete with people saying the shark has been jumped and they'll never watch the show again?

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Corpy wrote:In the scenario you describe, a grand slam is not necessary. Any play which advances the runner at third base to home wins the game. Could be a single, a walk, even a passed ball, or if there are fewer than two outs, a sacrifice fly.

I sure hope they don't try to bunt.
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Postby drunkill (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 8:23 am

Twilight's Kingdom Princessipality.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 9:10 am

drunkill wrote:Twilight's Kingdom Princessipality.

:excite: Just remember this rule of thumb: The princessipal is your pal!
:smirk: But you're just a princess, not a principal.
:pcstare: Oh, she'll have to serve her time eventually.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:22 pm

Ed just posted a 1min clip....
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:33 pm

Tabitha Singing? Or is that Kazumi Evans...
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:46 pm

Cadance singing again..........all the princesses singing............
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Warning: Incoming Mass Influx of FEELS


........So yeah that was a really short, but definitely cute scene :allears: :awesomedash:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:52 pm

Oh no, no way I'm watching a song preview for the finale :twiright:

The finale...

:flail: SEASON'S ALMOST OVER :flail:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:54 pm

That was awesome. :-I
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:02 pm

Noooo don't start singing about fate n' stuff, Celly :flail:

Well, if Twi was going to grow a second head or something we'd have known about it in toy form months in advance.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:07 pm

Welp singing about destiny, that's a death flag.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:46 pm

Here's the YouTube upload.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:52 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Welp singing about destiny, that's a death flag.

Current Death Flag Count:
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MLP doesn't kill characters. But I could see the other princesses permanently depowered. Yes in S5 they will all be ordinary Unicorns &/or Pegausi. :gotcha:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:54 pm

I really don't want that to happen. :sweetiefrown:

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 3:03 pm

Scuderia Ferrarity wrote:I really don't want that to happen. :sweetiefrown:

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Agreed. I would cry soo much if something happened to Cadence!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 3:11 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:
MLP doesn't kill characters. But I could see the other princesses permanently depowered. Yes in S5 they will all be ordinary Unicorns &/or Pegausi. :gotcha:


I would go on such a rant that I'd probably get banned for a week... :-/
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 3:13 pm

They made me think of the Supremes in that shot.

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 4:13 pm

The lyrics look pretty solid to me.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 4:17 pm

Does it really count as singing about fate when you're sining about the uncertainty of fate and how your choices can change it? :v:
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 4:31 pm

Well that's it, we need one more alicorn to round out the Princess Barbershop Quartet.

:gotcha: :speakest: Big Macintosh your time has come

:eeyup: My first royal decree is to ban the word eeyup....they'll never silence me again
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Postby InsertAuthorHere (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 7:12 pm

So...can we assume this hiatus will go better than the last one? Because I doubt I'll survive another six to nine months of "The show's ruined and it's your fault for liking the finale!" everywhere I go.

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I would go on such a rant that I'd probably get banned for a week... :-/


And I shall be right behind you. :applejargh:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 7:17 pm

Well, no matter what happens, this hiatus will definitely be shorter than the last one was. And there will always be people for whom the show is RUINED FOREVER!!! by any little thing, so it is best to just ignore or avoid them if you do not wish to listen to them. With that said, I have a better feeling now about this episode than I did at this time just before MMC.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 7:49 pm

Guys. Stop getting all knicker-twisted about the Princesses disappearing or being nerfed or whatever. The whole point of that song is that Twilight has, and deserves, a place with and among the other 3 princesses. Having them literally not exist anymore doesn't serve that end at all.

We believed in M. A. Larson, let's believe in Meghan now too.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 8:05 pm

I haven't read any spoilers or even looked at the Part 2 synopsis, so I don't know what happens, but last night I dreamt about an episode where Celestia had died and it was Twilight's job to plan the memorial, so THANKS THREAD FOR HAUNTING MY SUBCONSCIOUS, you are all a bad influence :applejargh:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 9:23 pm

Wylie wrote:Guys. Stop getting all knicker-twisted about the Princesses disappearing or being nerfed or whatever. The whole point of that song is that Twilight has, and deserves, a place with and among the other 3 princesses. Having them literally not exist anymore doesn't serve that end at all.

We believed in M. A. Larson, let's believe in Meghan now too.

I'd like to. I want to like all episodes of the show. But with her track record on previous two parters, I just can't get excited for Meghan episodes. Especially when, just like the S4 premiere its "Princesses get kidnapped, Twilight has to save them" again. It's certainly not a "never watching it again" thing, because I can ignore the season bookends for the sweet goodness between them.

I'd love to be proven wrong. If Celestia, Luna and Cadance break free in time for the big finale at the end and help out, I will happily eat some crow.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 9:39 pm

I dunno, at the moment the boilerplate plot looks the same, but I think it's going to be a lot different. The princesses (if really captured, I guess that's a legit villain at this point though) are helping finish off Twi's arc of settling into her new role.

I'm determined to enjoy this no matter what, even if it ends up feeling done already by a better 2-parter, I'm already blown away by the exploding of the library, although I'm going to be iffy on replacing it..., and the season overall has rebounded from S3's woes in a way that suggests the series can still go on for at least a couple more years.*

And I think it's this simple: the show is still focused on morals with its main characters (Mane 6, Spike, CMC), and despite some grumpiness from me and others sometimes about this, that is where the focus should be. All the other characters are secondary in trying to get good focus on them. It's ended up being Big Mac and Granny Smith with AJ's family motif that get the opportunities for such focus, and more recently due to the uniqueness and irresistibility (word check says this isn't a word... fuck it, it should be one) of his character, Discord. Celestia has narratively always been kind of a figurehead, same for Luna with the sole exception of Luna Eclipsed, which was a great offering of what could be done with them.

EqGames? Not too important to them, the focus was put on delivering a good Spike moral instead. The other princesses? Not much opportunity to feature them, they did try at least. The next step is to feature Celestia with a Mane 6 for an episode, and I hope that's a nice fresh idea that's in the S5 development pipeline right now.

*Without AKR's eps, I'm not sure I could have confidently stated this rough assessment of S4, so yeah, a bit of an asterisk here.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 10:04 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:I haven't read any spoilers or even looked at the Part 2 synopsis, so I don't know what happens, but last night I dreamt about an episode where Celestia had died and it was Twilight's job to plan the memorial, so THANKS THREAD FOR HAUNTING MY SUBCONSCIOUS, you are all a bad influence :applejargh:


I once had a dream there was an episode where Chrysalis & Cadencs spent 22 minutes arguing over which kind a cheese was better to put on hay burgers, the whole thing ended with Twilight proving them both wrong....the sad thing is... I really wanna see that be a real thing now. :gotcha:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 10:06 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:
I once had a dream there was an episode where Chrysalis & Cadencs spent 22 minutes arguing over which kind a cheese was better to put on hay burgers, the whole thing ended with Twilight proving them both wrong....the sad thing is... I really wanna see that be a real thing now. :gotcha:


:smirk: I need to take a side on this issue. Which cheese was each campaigning for?
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 10:21 pm

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:smirk: I need to take a side on this issue. Which cheese was each campaigning for?


Chrysalis went with Swiss of course. :evil:
:allright: Cadence went with cheeder.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 10:27 pm

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Chrysalis went with Swiss of course. :evil:
:allright: Cadence went with cheeder.


Well, neither of those are good answers, so hopefully Twilight picked something good.
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Postby Dal (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 10:43 pm

Wylie wrote:Guys. Stop getting all knicker-twisted about the Princesses disappearing or being nerfed or whatever. The whole point of that song is that Twilight has, and deserves, a place with and among the other 3 princesses. Having them literally not exist anymore doesn't serve that end at all.

We believed in M. A. Larson, let's believe in Meghan now too.


I find it funny that Twilight has been a princess for like a year, and is wanting a place among the elder princesses. Cadance had to wait like 15 years? I suppose Twilight has a few more instances of saving Equestria under her belt, but it's still funny.

I guess that's what this episode is going to be about--Twilight defining what being a princess is to her. Thus the seven thrones in that one shot.
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Postby Eshe (?) » Tue May 06, 2014 11:07 pm

Personally, I'm STOKED for this episode. :gotcha: I love epic two-parters and I feel this one is going to knock it out of the park for me. I mean, all three princess singing together? The only thing that would make it more epic is if Twilight joined in the song!

One thing I would love to see addressed is the few comments that Twilight has gotten from Rainbow Dash and Spike. I don't think we will, but it would still be nice. :allears:
RD: Since when does Twilight Sparkle ever fail?
RD: After all, you're good at everything.
Spike: You never let anypony down, so you have no idea what that's like.

Twilight hasn't seemed too pleased by the last two, judging by her sour look and "of course I've let other ponies down!" I feel that her friends and us (the viewers) see her as fairly perfect (good at studying and magic, able to make friends and spread peace, friends with royalty, Celestia's pet student, now with stardom status, doesn't indulge in her temper/freak outs anymore), but I think she is harder on herself than we see. After all, she is a perfectionist and perfectionists tend to hate ANY sort of misstep.

At least, that's my two cents. Purple Smart is my favourite character, so I'm super thrilled for yet another episode where she has to prove herself - both to Equestria and to herself.
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