S05E07: Make New Friends But Keep Discord

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Re: S05E07: Make New Friends But Keep Discord

Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:14 am

And hurrah for Applejack-grabbing-Rainbow-Dash's-tail callbacks too. :allears:

I want to know how that card game works. :ponder:
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Postby Davyinatoga (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:30 am

Perpetual Lurker wrote:I found Tree Hugger's hippy schtick to be a lot more believable here than I would in most media because Equestria is a land full of magic and stuff. It's quite probable that a waterfall does have an aura detectible by those particularly gifted. Her being to gauge The Smooze's mood and come up with an appropriate relaxation technique just by looking at it is evidence enough of that.

It's better than most "burnt-out hippie" tropes in media because she's surprisingly articulate. Even though she pauses every other thought with the word "like" and hardly responds at all to Discord's ugly demeanor, it's not because she's drugged herself that way, it's because she is legitimately fine with everything acting to its natural predilections, even if it means Discord being a snothead because naturally is a snothead. She's certainly not one to push self-improvement on anybody, even if they need it.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:34 am

Yeah Applejack is just stoic. She's not the type to burst into tears at the drop of a hat (Rarity, Pinkie) but that doesn't mean she can't ever cry ever.

It was a funny line based on how she usually presents herself to others, not a rule that needs to be written into her character sheet.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:38 am

Davyinatoga wrote: it's not because she's drugged herself that way, it's because she is legitimately fine with everything acting to its natural predilections


To be fair one reason why Tree Hugger might be legitimately fine with everything acting to its natural predilections is because she's high af :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Bremen (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:39 am

Davyinatoga wrote:It's better than most "burnt-out hippie" tropes in media because she's surprisingly articulate. Even though she pauses every other thought with the word "like" and hardly responds at all to Discord's ugly demeanor, it's not because she's drugged herself that way, it's because she is legitimately fine with everything acting to its natural predilections, even if it means Discord being a snothead because naturally is a snothead. She's certainly not one to push self-improvement on anybody, even if they need it.


Given that apparently she didn't remember meeting Discord, I'm not sure I'd discounted the possibility that she really is just that high.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:07 am

PictishBeast wrote:She's not the type to burst into tears at the drop of a hat (Rarity, Pinkie)


Fluttershy is immediately the one that comes to mind when I think of bursting into tears at the drop of a hat.
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:27 am

I actually think Rarity has the bigger cry count. Maybe even Pinkie too. It's just that both are played off more comedically typically so you don't notice it as hard.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:26 am

Frosthawk wrote:I actually think Rarity has the bigger cry count. Maybe even Pinkie too. It's just that both are played off more comedically typically so you don't notice it as hard.

Rarity is probably close, but I'm not sure if you can count her crying in Dog & Pony Show, since she was doing it intentionally to manipulate the dogs. Pinkie's cried a lot in recent episodes, but she barely did at all in the earlier seasons, other than Baby Cakes.

Off the top of my head, I can remember Fluttershy crying in Griffon the Brush-Off, A Bird in the Hoof, Return of Harmony 2, Hurricane Fluttershy, Ponyville Confidential, Putting Your Hoof Down, Magic Duel, Castle Mane-ia, Filli Vanilli, Twilight's Kingdom 2, Tanks for the Memories, and I'm sure there are a lot more I'm missing.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:56 am

Headless Horse wrote:I want to know how that card game works. :ponder:

I lost my shit when I realized Rainbow Dash was still playing the game after Applejack put her cards down. She went through Applejack's cards in the background just to find out whether or not she would've beaten Applejack had their game continued, and then celebrated her win without any context for the viewer if they weren't paying attention to what she was doing in the background. I don't think that kind of joke would've worked with anyone else because that's exactly the kind of thing Rainbow Dash would do.

Now that's the clever :ponydrugs: we've come to expect from the show's staff.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 3:28 am

I just rechecked and I don't ever see her going through AJ's cards. While the intention is fairly clear, something went missing in the storyboarding
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 3:36 am

I thought it was cute that Pinkie's first thought on who to invite to the Grand Galloping Gala was her mom:

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Who not surprisingly turned her down, but Pinkie says "she didn't want to go" so cheerfully and offhandedly that it clearly doesn't phase her.

It was still nice that she invited her mom though. :allears:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 4:28 am

Somebody in another site pointed this out.

This is episode 98. Once the next episode airs, FiM will officially become the longest running show based on a Hasbro property, beating the first Transformers show, which had 98 episodes.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 4:55 am

That's a lot of horsing around. :fluttershock:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 5:41 am

We will also have 99 problems but competition ain't one.

(Namely, keeping track of all the episodes in time for delicious #100!)
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 6:13 am

Surprised that Discovery isn't doing a marathon leading up to the 100th episode.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 6:15 am

Japanese fansub of this episode went up on Nico Douga. Viewers were amused by Tree Hugger's "Could you lower your voice just a skosh?" because, in Japanese, "sukoshi" means "a little." Amusing little coincidence.

Actually, I'm not sure where that came from. Let's see...

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Turns out American servicemen picked it up during the Korean War. You learn something every day.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 10:32 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:Surprised that Discovery isn't doing a marathon leading up to the 100th episode.

They might or might not. The 100th episode's airing seems to be another few weeks away, so scheduling details for Discovery Family have yet to be released.
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 10:46 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:Japanese fansub of this episode went up on Nico Douga. Viewers were amused by Tree Hugger's "Could you lower your voice just a skosh?" because, in Japanese, "sukoshi" means "a little." Amusing little coincidence.

Actually, I'm not sure where that came from. Let's see...

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Turns out American servicemen picked it up during the Korean War. You learn something every day.


Ooooh. Now that's neat. I was wondering about that word.
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 11:08 am

I'd never heard of it before either.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 11:37 am

I never heard of that word before as well. Interesting origins.

Fizzbuzz wrote:They might or might not. The 100th episode's airing seems to be another few weeks away, so scheduling details for Discovery Family have yet to be released.


Personally, I think the best time to do that is the two upcoming weekends where there are no new episodes.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:05 pm

MurdER_weapOn '78 wrote:I'd never heard of it before either.


I hear/use it plenty, but it never occurred to me to dig into its etymology. That is out of character for me. :-P
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Postby Throbulator (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 12:37 pm

I thought it was one of those hippie words.
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Postby The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 1:15 pm

I honestly thought it had a dutch or german origin
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 2:29 pm

I've heard and used the word "skosh" plenty, but Japanese is pretty much the last language I expected it to be from, considering how the word is pronounced in English. :starity:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue May 19, 2015 5:01 pm

I always thought it was just some random slang term that was popular amongst people who grew up in the '80s. Count me in as another who never knew, and is surprised by, its origin.
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Wed May 20, 2015 1:00 pm

I'm guessing it's probably a word that's pretty much exclusive to North America, or my vocabulary isn't what I thought it was :gotcha:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Wed May 20, 2015 9:56 pm

Adelor Lyon wrote:I lost my shit when I realized Rainbow Dash was still playing the game after Applejack put her cards down. She went through Applejack's cards in the background just to find out whether or not she would've beaten Applejack had their game continued, and then celebrated her win without any context for the viewer if they weren't paying attention to what she was doing in the background. I don't think that kind of joke would've worked with anyone else because that's exactly the kind of thing Rainbow Dash would do.

Now that's the clever :ponydrugs: we've come to expect from the show's staff.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 20, 2015 10:25 pm

Niels Olof wrote:It was only upon my rewatch of this wonderful episode that I realised that the (allegedly) hyper-vigilant and always aware of her surroundings Rainbow Dash did not notice Discord at all. At least she did notice AJ blowing her nose. :lol:

She's subconsciously hyper-vigilant and always aware... if she's flying. Otherwise she's kind of a dope. :v:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu May 21, 2015 1:13 pm

Huh, that's Ashleigh Ball voicing the mail pony that delivered Discord's invitation.

I should've realized. He did sound like a squeaky version of Rainbow Dash.
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Postby Aurora (?) » Thu May 21, 2015 6:46 pm

Octavia wrote:I've heard and used the word "skosh" plenty, but Japanese is pretty much the last language I expected it to be from, considering how the word is pronounced in English. :starity:


Many Japanese pronunciations of words can sound like they're missing the vowel after the consonant!
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Postby LunarRainbow92 (?) » Fri May 22, 2015 11:57 pm

My reasons for loving this episode!

1. Loved Tree Hugger XD never thought there would be a hippie pony in the series! and I liked "The Smooze" too
2. I really lost it at the part where Discord shows the puppet dimension (Man this show is getting weirder and weirder)
3. Never thought Celestia had a fun side to her (She's been hanging around Luna too much!)
4. This episode taught us the moral of being jealous of someone's other friend, believe me I've been there Oh Brother...
5. And I mean holy crap at the all references!!!!!, (Metal Gear Solid, The Shining, Dumb and Dumber *squeals*!)
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Postby Illuminations (?) » Mon May 25, 2015 11:08 pm

Bakertoons wrote:Huh, that's Ashleigh Ball voicing the mail pony that delivered Discord's invitation.

I should've realized. He did sound like a squeaky version of Rainbow Dash.


Its funny how they can't seem to stick with just one voice for the mail pony. How many tones have we heard now from this same pony? 2? 3? At any rate, I like this episode's rendition of mail-pony's voice. If it is a male voice, than I say that he is Twist's dad. Boo ya!
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon May 25, 2015 11:27 pm

I don't think I saw this mentioned, but I enjoyed the CMCs yelling the best night ever! :allears:
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Postby The Ghost Of Ember (?) » Mon May 25, 2015 11:42 pm

Headless Horse wrote:I don't think I saw this mentioned, but I enjoyed the CMCs yelling the best night ever! :allears:


Scootaloo wanted to hang out with the Wonderbolts, but they were too busy hanging out with an earth pony in a wheelchair who was their guest of honor.

Applebloom was certain she was going to get her cutie mark in gala dancing, but ended up stuck at a kids table with a bunch of cutie marked kids who did nothing but whine and moan about how their parents dragged them to this dumb gala where they couldn't do any of their special talents.

Sweetie Belle wanted to spend the evening with her big sister Rarity, but Rarity spent the whole time shooing her off so she could chat up handsome colts.

Later, Spike took them to Pony Joes for Donuts.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue May 26, 2015 12:34 am

In cases like this, where all ten of the show's main characters are doing a thing, I think we need more episodes like JFS and GPP where in one episode we get to see what the CMC and Spike are doing while one or more of the adults are dealing with stuff in the other episode. :rainbert:
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Tue May 26, 2015 2:10 am

LunarRainbow92 wrote:3. Never thought Celestia had a fun side to her

I don't really understand this. S1 was all about her eschewing the royal formalities and just having fun. If anything, this was a nice return to form.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue May 26, 2015 2:13 am

Yeah, S1 and S2 played up that fun-loving aspect of her. Wishing for ponies to relax around her.

It's why I hated her portrayal in S3 and S4. Beyond the damsel in distress thing being overused, she became just the ruler, and deliverer of exposition. There wasn't really a character there, just a job (same with Luna).
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Wed May 27, 2015 11:30 am

I've warmed more to Celestia as a character following this episode than at any time since I started watching the show about 7-8 months ago. This is the most fun-loving she's been portrayed to date.

Party Animal Celestia > Exposition Celestia

Luna could do with some of the same treatment I think.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed May 27, 2015 11:50 am

Wouldn't at all mind seeing more of the hilariously awkward Luna from Luna Eclipsed. It was so inspired, I'm not sure why they more or less dropped it.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 27, 2015 3:50 pm

Most of Luna's appearances since then have been in Sleepless in Ponyville and those other two episodes. In them, she's deliberately being serious in front of each of the CMC, whereas she might drop the pretense around someone whom she considers more equal (Celestia, Twilight, etc.). She just has not had much of the latter past Luna Eclipsed.
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