S05E07: Make New Friends But Keep Discord

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Re: S05E07: Make New Friends But Keep Discord

Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:12 pm

Anyone noticed that, when Pinkie was excited about Discord buying all the cake, she literally shook the camera?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:15 pm

:prettywings: It's true, Twilight. You kind of suck at flying.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:20 pm

The Doctor wrote::prettywings: It's true, Twilight. You kind of suck at flying.

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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:20 pm

How was Fluttershy in this episode?
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:22 pm

I'm still processing what happened in this episode. :I

Sick burns all around. :lol:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:23 pm

Frosthawk wrote:How was Fluttershy in this episode?

Really great. :allears: She was no dummy.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:26 pm

I wish this episode had spent just a little more time on having Discord realize that he fucked up. He's most certainly made progress on that front; after all, he didn't need to have it severely beaten into him like what Fluttershy did to him back in KCaFO. Still, it'd be nice if he were less of a dick, but I think he's actually figuring that out now.

Other than that minor quibble, this was really fantastic. I know I'll have to watch it again another time or two just to catch more of the jokes. Gags like Solid Snake's box, the chaos symbol on Discord's staff, "naked" Rarity ( :wat:), all the stand-up comedy tropes that he parodied, the Puppet Dimension where he wanted to send Tree Hugger... I'm sure there were even more such jokes that I missed watching it the first time.

Tree Hugger was great, too. While Flax Seed and Wheat Grass (two of the hippies from the comics) are still towards the top of my list of comic-only ponies whom I want to see in the show, Tree Hugger's name is just too perfect for a friend of Fluttershy. I hope we see her again, as Fluttershy has never really had any friends who particularly care about animals and nature until now.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:27 pm

Also I just want to quote this face again because it's hilarious.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:31 pm

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We need :happylestia: emote.
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:35 pm

This was superfunny, and a real winner in my book mostly because Discord spends almost the whole episode being a butt and he's actually treated like it. All his attempts at making Fluttershy jealous or stealing the spotlight fail in increasingly more embarassing ways, and he doesn't get away with any of it. From start to finish, it's clear that he wants to be in control but isn't, and when he's getting all out violent Fluttershy gives him a run for his money and tells him off. That's exactly how I was hoping it would be handled, and that's how it went. Awesome. :allears: Discord is a jerk who's just slowly learning not to be one, and the episode was handling it that way.

Also, I love that Discord lives in a Psychonauts level.

Also also, bringing back the Smooze was a genius move. If Discord keeps his thing for G1 villains up, he'll have to meet Katrina or Grogar next.

Also also also, Fontra totally lost his shit at the Metal Gear Solid joke. First the Game of Thrones thing in the Tank episode, now this. Watching him flip out is amazing. :gotcha:

There were so many gags to love. I really adored the Rodney Dangerfield part, for example.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:48 pm

Aramek wrote:Really great. :allears: She was no dummy.


She's really getting good at laying the common sense on everyone when the wheels start coming off the wagon, as at the end with Discord. Seeing the disaster incoming, not so much.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:48 pm

I kinda saw Rarity traumatized by losing her dress and not "haha naked joke". Maybe the fact that it could be read as either was the joke? :pinkieshrug:

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How would Pinkie fare in Metal Gear Discord as an enemy? I bet Maud would also do well.

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:50 pm

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Definitely agree with you there, though I don't know how it would look shrunk down.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:50 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I kinda saw Rarity traumatized by losing her dress and not "haha naked joke". Maybe the fact that it could be read as either was the joke? :pinkieshrug:

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How would Pinkie fare in Metal Gear Discord as an enemy? I bet Maud would also do well.

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I see an Orion cutie mark. :3:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:53 pm

Celly, ever the chessmaster. :gotcha:

So much to like in this one. Discord episodes never disappoint. Some highlights for me are seeing Maud again, the live puppet scene and Tree Hugger. I could imagine her and Maud hanging out.

I liked Celly's hoof pump at the end, and how laid back in general she was. I think some of Discord's style is rubbing off on her.

I guess we've established a record for CMC appearances by now. Foreshadowing, perhaps? :ohboy:

Maud is best heckling pony. :maud:
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 6:58 pm

Just before Pinkie floats off into the ooze using Maud as a boat, poor Applebloom is up to the stuff so far it's covering her nose- and she ends up snorting out little slime bubbles.

Also, managing a Shining reference in a kid's show. A+, would redru- I mean rerun again. :)
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 7:01 pm

Shining reference? Must have missed that one.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 7:09 pm

I got a little verklempt when AJ did and I'm awfully embarrassed.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 7:11 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I kinda saw Rarity traumatized by losing her dress and not "haha naked joke". Maybe the fact that it could be read as either was the joke? :pinkieshrug:

It was the way she covered herself.
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Perrydotto wrote:Shining reference? Must have missed that one.

It was when the Smooze was about to burst out of the closet and flood the place. It paralleled the scene where the elevator opened and out came a flood of blood. A pony was even made to look like Danny.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 7:28 pm

Another Rarity-gala-horror moment: When Discord locks up the Smooze the first time, Rarity ends up coming out of the room afterwards utterly traumatized and covered in slime. Again.

Note that the Smooze loves gems and eats them to grow. Mistakes were made.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 7:35 pm

Oh my god, they even copied Danny's sweater...wow. Hopefully there's no pony version of Jack Torrance.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:01 pm

Octavia wrote:I'm worried that this episode is going to be a clone of Keep Calm and Flutter On, where Discord is a jerk and Fluttershy keeps making excuses for him, until finally at the end of the episode she's done with putting up with his bullshit and tells him to his face. Then Discord realizes the error of his ways and everything is happy again until the next Discord episode where he does the exact same thing.


Welp this is pretty much exactly what happened, with the exception of Fluttershy making excuses for his behavior. Instead she ignored or wasn't aware of it. :unenthused:

But I love Treehugger so much. She's SO GODDAMNED HIGH. :snoop:

I'm glad Maud came back, I enjoyed the Metal Gear reference, and I loved it when Fluttershy made this face: :-I
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:02 pm

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Postby theGECK (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:09 pm

The costuming! :awesomedash: Twilight has another new hairstyle! :yay:

But it just didn't click for me...not sure why exactly. It could be that because I completely missed out on my generation's pop-culture so then I don't get Discord's references. I don't really like when they use Discord to do pop culture references, especially because it takes the "timeless" aspect of the show that I like. At least they include references from multiple decades!

Celestia's face really didn't seem to work right when it was displaying something other than stoic-ness though, did anybody else notice that, or is it just me? Maybe her model isn't up to what they're trying to do with it now? And is this the first time we've actually seen both of her eyes? I can't remember it happening in the show before.

And Discord's chaos magic can take care of the Smooze when pony magic can't get through it at all, including pulling completely dissolved treasure out of the Smooze? Now we know of 4 types of magic in the world: pony, alicorn, chaos, & dark. How many others are there? Is Cutie Mark magic or Rainbow Power their own type of magic? I think I might like the world aspects of this episode more than the episode itself!

EDIT: Rainbow Dash is self absorbed as always too. "Yeah sis, you look good, that's nice Discord, I WIN THE GAME!"
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Postby MochaBean (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:31 pm

Discord Gets Owned: The Episode. :gotcha:

I liked Tree Hugger. Yeah, the whole hippy-dippy schtick is played out by this point, but it worked perfectly here because it made her the perfect foil to Discord. She's completely immune to his usual BS and it drove him nuts.

The return of Maude, now with real Sick Burn Action™.

I actually kind of felt bad for the Smooze when he got shoved outside. He looked so sad. :fluttersmith:

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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:33 pm

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Aww, a Smooze smooch. :3:
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Postby Bremen (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:37 pm

theGECK wrote:Celestia's face really didn't seem to work right when it was displaying something other than stoic-ness though, did anybody else notice that, or is it just me? Maybe her model isn't up to what they're trying to do with it now? And is this the first time we've actually seen both of her eyes? I can't remember it happening in the show before.


I just assumed she'd been hitting the open bar hard.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:40 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I kinda saw Rarity traumatized by losing her dress and not "haha naked joke". Maybe the fact that it could be read as either was the joke? :pinkieshrug:

To me it felt like the latter since she made a similar joke back in The Best Night Ever (where the punchline was that ponies don't normally wear clothes). I don't think it was a specific callback, but I was reminded of that. The way she covered herself and shuffled offscreen (as Marimo pointed out) is a classic cartoon trope as well, though perhaps it doesn't work quite as well for ponies as it does for human characters in other shows.
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Oh, that's what that was. I couldn't tell if the thing that kid's sweater was supposed to be a rocket or a squid or what, but then again I've never seen The Shining. :v:
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Postby Pocket (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:57 pm

The look on Rarity's face as she awkwardly shuffled out probably also deserves to become an emote. Somebody's bound to vectorize one of those frames, so we should have some nice source material to work off of.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 8:59 pm

Also, if Discord appears again in the future, I really hope Meghan and the gang can find something new to do with him. About all he's done in his various appearances is that he's been an asshole and subsequently been told to not be an asshole, with Twilight's Kingdom being perhaps the only exception. He doesn't have the same depth as any of the main characters, nor the mysteriousness of Celestia and Luna, yet he commands a huge amount of attention whenever he's in an episode. If the show keeps running him like this then I worry episodes featuring him will slip into predictability, in much the same way that episodes featuring Fluttershy were terribly predictable in most of seasons 1-3.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:18 pm

I'm not sure how else Discord's reformation can progress other than this characterization of "very rough around the edges" when it comes to friendship. I think it's worked out pretty well, given bringing him back at all (although Three's a Crowd is still a convoluted mess in this respect).

It makes sense he's still a nascent jerk about friendship, he never cared to learn before KCaFO. He's made a home in some Q Zone where his chaos reigns, with upside down stairs and his house cleaning involves adding dust bunnies and dirtying dishes in the sink. He still values his unique brand of magic and that's naturally going to create an initial divide when trying to befriend other ponies (as Fluts points out, he could use a friend that shares this trait). As someone said, maybe he was offput even more by the fact that Tree Hugger was totally fine with him from the start.

You can say only really expanded his "friendship scope", so to speak (ok not the best term but whatever) beyond Fluts in this episode. In TK, yes he apologizes to Twi & Mane 6, but his progression in that two-parter was more about the values of a friend - he gets disillusioned by Tirek offering him friendship AND his full prior chaos, best of both worlds without sacrifices. He realizes how Fluts really is his best friend and you can't "trade up" friends, but there's nothing really addressing having, juggling, dealing with multiple friends / friends of friends in TK - this is exactly what this episode covers as the next step. Discord is not likely to ever get too chummy with Tree Hugger, but he can live with that as he doesn't need to feel insecure about losing Fluts.

As Discord apologizes to Tree Hugger, "I'm just so new at this whole friendship thing, it's so much more complicated than it looks." Another small step, somewhat similar to Fluts' progression with her weaknesses with Hurricane Fluttershy and Filli Vanilli.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:24 pm

I quite enjoyed this episode and it helps make up for G Reconguista on YouTube getting region locked so I can't enjoy crazy space robot stuff. So lots of fun and LORD SMOOZE finally arriving so Friendship can indeed be Witchcraft... :allears:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:29 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:To me it felt like the latter since she made a similar joke back in The Best Night Ever (where the punchline was that ponies don't normally wear clothes). I don't think it was a specific callback, but I was reminded of that. The way she covered herself and shuffled offscreen (as Marimo pointed out) is a classic cartoon trope as well, though perhaps it doesn't work quite as well for ponies as it does for human characters in other shows.


It is not the first time we have seen apparently naked ponies:
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:31 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Also, if Discord appears again in the future, I really hope Meghan and the gang can find something new to do with him. About all he's done in his various appearances is that he's been an asshole and subsequently been told to not be an asshole, with Twilight's Kingdom being perhaps the only exception. He doesn't have the same depth as any of the main characters, nor the mysteriousness of Celestia and Luna, yet he commands a huge amount of attention whenever he's in an episode. If the show keeps running him like this then I worry episodes featuring him will slip into predictability, in much the same way that episodes featuring Fluttershy were terribly predictable in most of seasons 1-3.

I completely agree. They either need to come up with something completely new for Discord or cut down on his appearances. Maybe have him show up once every other season instead of 1-2 times per season. I felt like today's episode was good depsite Discord instead of it being good because of him.
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Postby Caldera (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:32 pm

rudecyrus wrote:I'll be honest, I'll need to think on this episode a bit, because some of it didn't click with me. I loved Tree Hugger, I loved Maud, I loved the CMC and everyone's cute outfits (especially Rainbow Dash), it had some good gags and it was great that Celestia showed some emotion other than "stoic." I should enjoy it much more than I did...and yet I didn't. I'm not sure why.

Yeah, this pretty much. I liked some parts of it but generally it just felt kinda...how do I describe it. Awkward? Like having secondhand embarrassment or something. :pinkieshrug: I get that you're supposed to feel repulsed at Discord's behaviour but it just didn't click with me. I guess I'm just one of the people who doesn't really like reformed discord's dynamics.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:34 pm

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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:36 pm

Ponies in pretty dresses: 9/10

(minus one point for Applejack's hat, seriously c'mon girl)
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:37 pm

Octavia wrote:I completely agree. They either need to come up with something completely new for Discord or cut down on his appearances. Maybe have him show up once every other season instead of 1-2 times per season.


I agree with this, even though I enjoyed the episode today a lot. I don't want him to be exclusively the pop culture dispenser, there's much more you can do with him.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:39 pm

Personally, I thought that the episode brought something new to the table in terms of his character. Yes, Discord was acting like a typical jerk but he realised his behaviour for real this time and Fluttershy calling him out was a excellent scene. I think we might see something different out of him next time he appears.

Also, I think a once a season appearance could work. It doesn't really oversaturate the character.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat May 16, 2015 9:39 pm

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That's a reference to Rodney Dangerfield's shtick. He always did that.
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