S05E01-02: The Cutie Map

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Re: S05E01-02: The Cutie Map

Postby The Outlander (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:43 am

Ransom wrote:I have a hunch that they will at least show up in episode 100. My guess is that it will center around how the mane 6 have helped various ponies over time.


You know, that helps put the "Episode 100 will feature mostly background characters" thing into perspective. Of course it'll be about all the pseudo-mane six groups that they create in their coming adventures. That actually helps me rest a lot easier.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:40 am

Those four in this episode were so well characterized, for one-off run-of-the-mill supporting characters, that I sort of feel like this season will be deliberately setting out to expand the secondary cast a bunch with a world full of critters the Mane 6 have helped.

The big Season 5 cast poster will be the best one yet.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:27 am

Headless Horse wrote:The big Season 5 cast poster will be the best one yet.


I may have missed them, but were there even cast posters for seasons 3 and 4?
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:02 am

Late to this.

Omg. Feels so good to have new episodes. :awesomedash:
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Male ponies seemed to have more variation and speaking roles, so a more 50:50 gender split compared to the more 80:20 split in S1.

Oh my oh me. The sky little callbacks to prior seasons. :awesomedash:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:23 am

[quote="Rainbow Crash"

I may have missed them, but were there even cast posters for seasons 3 and 4?[/quote]

Pretty sure that there was one for Season 3.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:06 am

Scuderia Ferrarity wrote:Male ponies seemed to have more variation and speaking roles, so a more 50:50 gender split compared to the more 80:20 split in S1.

The show has felt this way since at least S2, though it wasn't really noticeable until S3, which is when we really started getting lots of episodes that took place in places not established in S1 (all the episodes in the Crystal Empire, for example).
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Postby Factory Factory (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:14 am

This does serious damage to my pet theory that ponies are bugs.
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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:37 pm

Does it... Bug you? :smirk:
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Postby Factory Factory (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:29 pm

It's probably for the best, since the creepy rule bans insects.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:30 pm

Factory Factory wrote:It's probably for the best, since the creepy rule bans insects.

Guess we'd better ban everyone who posted in the episode thread for A Canterlot Wedding or who has ever posted about Chrysalis, then. :smirk:
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:35 pm

Rainbow Crash wrote:
I may have missed them, but were there even cast posters for seasons 3 and 4?


Season 3 did not get an official cast poster, no (much to my dismay). Here is the one for season 4.
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 1:50 pm

Perrydotto wrote:[ Here is the one for season 4.


Do I need to start wearing glasses, or is the chimera missing?


On topic: I think for sure we'll Starlight Glimmer again, there must be a reasonable chance of seeing her again in S5 even.
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Postby Ransom (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:09 pm

I actually would love multiple appearances of Starlight, if they could manage it. Jokes about Sunset Shimmer aside (or the fact that the fandom had already dubbed Trixie the Twilight counterpart), she's actually more of a dark foil for her.

Starlight is an extremely advanced unicorn magician, having developed magic capable of stealing cutie marks, and getting the drop on Twilight, even if Sparkle proved superior in the end. And she was able to manipulate a whole town to her way. She seems to have Twilight's same drive to study, and have a twisted view of creating harmony. She's even prone to being self assured, then freaking out when things don't go her way.

Side note about her character: I actually think she might be up there with the more genuinely evil characters we've had, just because she is so conceited. She is 'sincere' in that she believes her way will actually work, but is totally egotistical about her own rightness, that she won't listen to any opposing view, and is willing to do almost anything to accomplish it, no matter the morality or who gets hurt. And when her plans are foiled, she resorts to petty revenge, attempting to keep the Mane 6's marks for herself forever, just to spite them (unless she had some ulterior motive with how to use the marks for herself).

Anyway, enough morning rambling. I don't think I'd seen the season 4 cast picture, thanks!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:13 pm

Reposting this here since it's cool and doesn't really need to rot in PPPP:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:20 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Guess we'd better ban everyone who posted in the episode thread for A Canterlot Wedding or who has ever posted about Chrysalis, then. :smirk:

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:23 pm

Huh, I could have sworn I saw a S3 version. They were outside the Crystal Empire and there was a giant Sombra...maybe it was fanmade. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Factory Factory (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 2:50 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Guess we'd better ban everyone who posted in the episode thread for A Canterlot Wedding or who has ever posted about Chrysalis, then. :smirk:


:spoiler: There was a second layer to my post that made it a stealth joke.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:29 pm

Perrydotto wrote:
Season 3 did not get an official cast poster, no (much to my dismay). Here is the one for season 4.


Somehow I missed that one, thanks for linking it.

Lotsa 2-second background characters in there.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:35 pm

Silver Shill's giant-ass lower jaw will never not look funny.
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:55 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Huh, I could have sworn I saw a S3 version. They were outside the Crystal Empire and there was a giant Sombra...maybe it was fanmade. :pinkieshrug:


They were fanmade ones, yes.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:09 pm

Guys... Guys...

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:16 pm

George Marewell would be proud.

That is a pretty cool picture. :golfclop:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:54 pm

Wow...wonder if Hasbro will start selling prints of that poster? :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:00 pm

The cheery pink-and-purple FiM logo really detracts from the effect, I think.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:09 pm

I imagine that was for trademark reasons.
Someone did make a version without it: https://puu.sh/h5DCH/1fbf2c3004.png
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:24 pm

Johnnies come lately, I say. :v:
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Postby Pocket (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:45 am

Being in black-and-white really drives home how much she just looks like Twilight.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:59 am

I think that they used the exact same character model, it's uncanny how close they look.
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Postby iSO (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:59 pm

Just wondering, is there going to be a TRS roundtable on the main page? I liked reading your thoughts and comments here and there.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:21 pm

I don't know if we're doing them for Season 5...I did like the S4 ones though and it'd be nice for them to come back.
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Postby acksed (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:21 pm

I miss them too.

:spoiler: ...It'd be easy to cobble together a pseudo-RT just from the more in-depth comments in each episode thread. Just saying.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:27 pm

That's how they did the Comedy Goldmines on SA. Who needs VIPs and all that effort? :amazing:

(it also hinted at a vibrant discussion community and lots of funny stuff that people who just read the front page were missing out on)
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:03 pm

Master_Twig wrote:Unfortunately, we're not likely to see the other villagers. I rather liked those ponies.


I hope we get a spinoff in which, after leaving the cult, a mare named Kimmy Schmidt moves to Manehattan to chase her dreams.




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Postby Ransom (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:10 pm

You know, the episode did a good job of portraying how Starlight's society just wouldn't work in that nobody could do anything well. Clothes were horrible, food was awful, houses lacked design. Nobody could feel satisfied in their work. But beyond that is the more frightening prospect the more practical problems. Without talent, crop failure seems inevitable. If an outside threat came, monsters, changlings, another empire, they'd be helpless. If an illness swept through, who could help them?

The only way I could see the equalist society even functioning is if Starlight expanded her 'exceptions' list beyond herself. "For the good of the community" allow certain essential ponies to have their marks. Essentially, create a select class of citizens for various vital functions.

Which actually makes the prospect of Starlight's society even more totalitarian of course. :starity:
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:14 pm

That's why I get the idea that Starlight hadn't been around in that town for too long. Maybe only half a year or so.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:52 pm

Ransom wrote:You know, the episode did a good job of portraying how Starlight's society just wouldn't work in that nobody could do anything well. Clothes were horrible, food was awful, houses lacked design. Nobody could feel satisfied in their work. But beyond that is the more frightening prospect the more practical problems. Without talent, crop failure seems inevitable. If an outside threat came, monsters, changlings, another empire, they'd be helpless. If an illness swept through, who could help them?

The only way I could see the equalist society even functioning is if Starlight expanded her 'exceptions' list beyond herself. "For the good of the community" allow certain essential ponies to have their marks. Essentially, create a select class of citizens for various vital functions.

Which actually makes the prospect of Starlight's society even more totalitarian of course. :starity:

That's why lowest common denominator equality doesn't work. A society doomed to mediocrity would have no means of advancement and hardly any means of survival. A better solution is one which recognizes the skill and value inherent to each individual, then ensures that each of these individuals is able to participate and contribute what he or she does best without imbalancing and devaluing others. In a way, I suppose Starlight's philosophy is an incredibly scorched-earth solution to bring this about, but such a massive devaluation of the individual effectively knocks society back to the stone age, back before they ever had the means to specialize and advance in the first place.

Master_Twig wrote:That's why I get the idea that Starlight hadn't been around in that town for too long. Maybe only half a year or so.

Between that and the size of the town, this seems most likely.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:03 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:I think that they used the exact same character model, it's uncanny how close they look.


This made me go back and look. Of course, all ponies share a basic body shape, what makes them different are manes, tails, and eyes. Starlight's mane has two sets of stripes in her bangs, and it falls around her horn more symmetrically. She also has Rainbow Dash's eye shape. In fact, ALL the mares in Equalityville have that same eye shape, reinforcing the uniformity of the place all the more.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 6:21 pm

To be fair, most adult female background ponies have the same eyes as Rainbow Dash. Compared to ponies at large, the Mane Six are outliers in that they all have different eye shapes and eyelash patterns.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:00 pm

Master_Twig wrote:That's why I get the idea that Starlight hadn't been around in that town for too long. Maybe only half a year or so.


I'd like to think most ponies just aren't stupid enough to fall for her shtick.

Or she used force on everyone. Why would Double Diamond give up skiing? Why would Party Favor give up balloons?
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 8:05 pm

I dunno. Look back at the show as a whole. I think most ponies are kind of dumb.
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