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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:11 pm

So that should be a few million tickets sold in the U.S. alone, right?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:12 pm

Yeah, I can't imagine this movie will be very successful (or that Hasbro expects it to be). It will probably be a little more successful than the EQG movie.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:14 pm

Soft Snow wrote:So that should be a few million tickets sold in the U.S. alone, right?
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Uhh no, unless people are buying multiple tickets.

Doesn't the movie have a ridiculously low budget compared to other animated movies, and unless they spend Minions level on the marketing it's gonna be a pretty small film and so it'll be easier to make a quick profit
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:30 pm

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Uhh no, unless people are buying multiple tickets.

Doesn't the movie have a ridiculously low budget compared to other animated movies, and unless they spend Minions level on the marketing it's gonna be a pretty small film and so it'll be easier to make a quick profit


I don't think a budget has been announced, or even hinted at. I think most assume it's small.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:46 pm

That's the key thing to remember. Even if a film doesn't have a particularly big take at the box office, if it was cheap to produce and market then it can still turn quite a profit. Hasbro could easily go whole hog on making this movie for the fans first and foremost, then toss a few trailers and previews to both us and kids who grew up with the show and let us all hype ourselves into seeing it. Whether they'll go this route or use a big marketing campaign to try to rope in a more general audience remains to be seen.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:01 am

Kid friendly movies are easy successes. The first Equestria Girls movie made over $3 million in DVD sales alone. If they keep the budget low and tell an entertaining story, they can easily make a tidy profit. I can't imagine it will be a block buster, though I have been wrong before, it should do descent for what it is aiming for.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:07 am

The Doctor wrote:Yeah, I can't imagine this movie will be very successful (or that Hasbro expects it to be). It will probably be a little more successful than the EQG movie.


I think the buzz will be important. Jem was a mega-bomb because nobody cares about Jem anymore, and especially not about a Jem that's trying to be a mopey tween movie about becoming a YouTube star. But MLP has (had) a huge fan audience, and if the movie is good enough for them to be excited, it won't matter much whether random reviewers like it -- especially if, as many of us are wondering, it's a series finale.

We can probably safely say, though, that it's not going to be a hit the way Transformers is a hit. I'm not convinced that's what they want out of these Allspark films, so the question is: Can they keep enough of a profile to get other films wide release in theaters instead of playing on maybe 100 screens for a week like Equestria Girls?
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 4:08 am

I can figure out a rough guess of the worst possible scenario of this movie can have.

We'll combine Jem and EG and pretend that is how successful the movie will be since those are the lowest movie figures to go by. Jem had a budget with no real advertising for $5 million. It made $2.3 million in the box office. I couldn't find the budget for EG, but it made $3.2 million in DVD sales. I also found out EQ made $100,000 in Turkey and $300,000 in Peru box offices.

Worst Case Scenario...

Budget: $5 million
Box Office Sales: $2.3 million
DVD Sales: $3.2 million
Net Profit: $0.5 million

Conclusion: The movie will be considered the second failure of the pony movie series. It will barely make it's money back. Any possible future squeals will either be straight-to-DVD or made-for-TV.

But if it does any better then I speculate, it will be all sunshine rainbows and might even get another theatrical release.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:37 am

Equestria Girls is explicitly a cheap thing meant to push toy sales, and it was successful enough at that to encourage them to make two more movies. They were very happy about it in their quarterly investor report.

The question is what they want to do with the MLP movie. If it's just meant to keep the brand selling toys for another few years until the next big thing, then it probably can't fail as long as it doesn't cost too much. Jem was trying to re-launch a weird brand, and it failed at that.

But I do think it's going to be hard to dodge the press's reaction when it fails to make $200 million... assuming they even go for lots of screens this time around.

Possible saving grace: There aren't really any other kids' movies coming out in October right now. The only competition is Emojimovie in August, Ninjago in September, and Pixar's new movie Coco, a Dia de los Muertos film coming out at the end of November. And also a Sony animation project with no name that's launching alongside Ninjago.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 3:38 pm

That actually presents a golden opportunity for the pony movie. Firstly, most movies don't last longer then a month in theaters. Meaning if they are the only kids' movie release in October they will have next to no competition to worry about. Secondly, it is normally rare to find a kids' friendly movie playing during October. Since it is considered Halloween time most of the movie are normally to scary for kids to watch. This gives parents an option to show something not scary if they want too.

The only draw back is that it will be playing during the school year.
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Postby ixnay (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:32 pm

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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:38 pm

"The Horsie" is better.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:54 pm



At least it's not Equestria Girls :v:
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:55 pm

Anxiously awaiting the 20% Cooler Director's Cut.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 4:56 pm

I like the logo, but it still leaves me with so many questions!
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'The Movie' is a rather queer tact on to the title. I don't think such a distinction is necessary. It would be like saying 'The Avengers: The Movie.' Besides, that is what the first movie is called and will only lead to public mass confusion.

I would prefer something more thought provoking like "My Little Pony: Stars of Friendship" or something. It is good to finally get official releases of things.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 5:06 pm

Subtitling it "The Movie" is not uncommon when it's an adaptation from TV. We had "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" after all. Or "The Muppet Movie"!

Hmm.

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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:00 pm

My first exposure to "The Movie" title was "Tom and Jerry: The Movie", when I came across it at a video store as a kid (remember those?).

I thought it'd be like the old cartoons. Boy, was I wrong :-I
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:33 pm

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:36 pm

But even if they're reusing a title, it's not as bad as the next article below it on that page:

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(This is the publisher Hasbro tried to sign a deal with.)
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:14 pm

Honestly, I think My Little Pony: The Movie is great. Simple, clean, not horribly cluttered (imagine "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic: The Movie") or an awful attempt at being witty.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:32 pm

A plain "My Little Pony" would be better though.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:29 pm

My Little Pony: BUCKETS OF BLOOD
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:30 am

It's a predictable and not very interesting title, but it gets the job done (especially from a marketing point-of-view).

Us fans will end up creating a variety of more colourful alternate titles anyway.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:56 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:My Little Pony: BUCKETS OF BLOOD

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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:28 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:My Little Pony: BUCKETS OF BLOOD


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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:31 pm

Curious tweet from de Lancie - Discord will not appear in the film
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:57 pm

Well that's one less ball to juggle.

That or Discord will be silent the whole movie like Pinkie was in Magic Duel.

Either choice is acceptable.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:18 pm

DerFurShur wrote:That or Discord will be silent the whole movie like Pinkie was in Magic Duel.

That'd mean he would still be in it. JDL apparently said that "Discord will not appear in the film," according to Wayoshi, but who knows if JDL was basing that on something he'd actually been told or merely on that he'd not needed to record anything for it.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:24 pm

I'd be surprised if there wasn't a a glimpse of him somewhere in a background shot as a hidden easter egg but yeah no the character won't "appear" in the movie as a character
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:39 am

Fun thing : He commented at Trotcon he was recording lines for Discord a couple weeks ago. And if he is not in the movie, well there you go, Season 7 confirmed (As if there's any real doubt at this point)
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 8:57 am

Wayoshi wrote:Curious tweet from de Lancie - Discord will not appear in the film


Finally, good news! :v:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:23 am

An itty bitty image of the MLP film cast surfaced today. Thanks to Sigmasonic for bringing it to my attention!

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Scaled up a bunch:

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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 12:47 pm

So I guess this confirms that stand-in in that tweet from Tara Strong is the new artstyle for the movie.
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:07 pm

Ehhh... something about the art style seems too... rounded. Especially Applejack :hilarious:

But who knows, maybe it's like those clip arts Hasbro marketing uses which isn't 100% identical to the show :v: I wouldnt be surprised if the art style in the movie is different from these promo art.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:13 pm

It's scaled up. The "rounding" is because it's too blurry.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:23 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:It's scaled up. The "rounding" is because it's too blurry.


Yeah, it's hard to get a sense of the fine details. The upscaler I used tends to be pretty smart, but it's still very few pixels being turned into many.

DerFurShur wrote:So I guess this confirms that stand-in in that tweet from Tara Strong is the new artstyle for the movie.


Based on Fluttershy's ear here, I'd say that's a fair bet. Of course Tara's standee was shot from a wonky angle, and we don't even know for sure if the art used is an accurate reflection of how the film is looking.

Also, I've just realised that this art kinda resembles one of the concept art pieces we saw in the Russian Hasbro presentation earlier this year.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 1:50 pm

To me it doesn't look like the movie is going for an exceptionally new style, but more that they're just making the lighting and shading look highly detailed, like promotional images for the later EqG movies have had. As SlateSlabrock said, the upscaled version isn't necessarily going to be representative of the actual look of the movie.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:02 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:To me it doesn't look like the movie is going for an exceptionally new style, but more that they're just making the lighting and shading look highly detailed, like promotional images for the later EqG movies have had. As SlateSlabrock said, the upscaled version isn't necessarily going to be representative of the actual look of the movie.


As you say, it's definitely more of a tweaked style than a new one. If Tara's standee is anything to go by, the ears have changed a bit, as has the thickness of the linework. Beyond those, it'll be impossible to tell until we get a proper, undistorted image to compare against.

And then yeah, who's to say this early promo stuff will even match the final product? They've still got, what, over a year of production ahead of them?
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Postby Ruflux (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:08 pm

Considering how animation started last year, the style is most definitely locked down at this point and so any promos you see should reflect the final look more or less (barring ofc Hasbro fucking with the art to make them more appealing in the promo art or sth)


On the note of art, one change we'll very likely see will be more varied line weights for the characters since they're not restricted by their easy to animate in Flash artstyle anymore in that regard
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Jul 19, 2016 2:23 pm

Ruflux wrote:Considering how animation started last year, the style is most definitely locked down at this point and so any promos you see should reflect the final look more or less (barring ofc Hasbro fucking with the art to make them more appealing in the promo art or sth)


I'm guessing the latter. The movie may very well have an updated art style, but promo art doesn't always reflect what's on screen.
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