S04E18: Maud Pie

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Re: S04E18: Maud Pie

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:17 pm

Sorry for my post earlier, I was just frustrated and confused because I couldn't think of anything good to say about the characterisation conversation. :fluttersmith:
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:19 pm

Okay, so a single appearance by two of Pinkie's sisters way back in Season 1 is enough to make the appearance of a third sister a massive retcon? They weren't even referred to directly by Pinkie's narration, IIRC. :pinkieshrug:

Man, people are really determined to get upset about things before the episodes happen this season.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:22 pm

Adding a third sister when you have two to use is just odd. :pinkieshrug: Perhaps Noelle had a specific character design in mind that didn't match the other two that well, although the only thing really different in that pic is Maud's eyes.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:24 pm

Perpetual Lurker wrote:Okay, so a single appearance by two of Pinkie's sisters way back in Season 1 is enough to make the appearance of a third sister a massive retcon? They weren't even referred to directly by Pinkie's narration, IIRC. :pinkieshrug:

Man, people are really determined to get upset about things before the episodes happen this season.



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Then again, :ponydrugs: are serious business man! :v:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:24 pm

rudecyrus wrote:This season has been full of "(Blank) Pie" episode titles and it's irritating me a bit.
Can't trust a person who doesn't like pie... :eyebrow:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:25 pm

Yeah, on extremely rare occasions I wonder on whether or not we will eventually destroy our own forum with our squabbling.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:48 pm

rudecyrus wrote:This season has been full of "(Blank) Pie" episode titles and it's irritating me a bit.

This is only the second episode this season with "Pie" in the title (the other being "Pinkie Apple Pie").

So, is Noelle Benvenuti a pseudonym for a veteran animation writer? There's literally nothing available about Noelle online.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:05 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Adding a third sister when you have two to use is just odd. :pinkieshrug: Perhaps Noelle had a specific character design in mind that didn't match the other two that well, although the only thing really different in that pic is Maud's eyes.


Do remember that the one writer doesn't have unlimited control over the script. It still goes through peer review and is edited by Meghan. If this hole was a huge problem, it wouldn't have gone through.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:19 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:Yeah, on extremely rare occasions I wonder on whether or not we will eventually destroy our own forum with our squabbling.



Eventually all of mankind will destroy itself with its squabbling. But, it'll be a pretty fun ride up to that point! :gotcha:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:26 pm

Mr. Big wrote:So, is Noelle Benvenuti a pseudonym for a veteran animation writer? There's literally nothing available about Noelle online.

Perhaps she's a ghostwriter! :iiam:
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Postby Kronos (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:26 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:

Eventually all of mankind will destroy itself with its squabbling. But, it'll be a pretty fun ride up to that point! :gotcha:


Because that's when Rise of the Planet of the Ponies happens. :crack:
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:35 pm

Pretty sure it won't happen but I'd love it if they used G3 Pinkie's voice actress for Maud.
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 10:53 pm

Wayoshi wrote:Adding a third sister when you have two to use is just odd. :pinkieshrug: Perhaps Noelle had a specific character design in mind that didn't match the other two that well, although the only thing really different in that pic is Maud's eyes.


I assume the writer knew about Pinkie's sisters/home life, wrote an episode where she named one of them Maud Pie, and then later they found out a book was coming out with two different names for Pinkie's sisters and went "oops." It's probably nothing more than a minor miscommunication. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:10 pm

londonarbuckle wrote:
I assume the writer knew about Pinkie's sisters/home life, wrote an episode where she named one of them Maud Pie, and then later they found out a book was coming out with two different names for Pinkie's sisters and went "oops." It's probably nothing more than a minor miscommunication. :pinkieshrug:

Incidentally, that book did also mention a third sister of Pinkie's, so Maud's existence isn't the fault of the new writer majorly fucking up or anything.
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Postby Zuzie (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:12 pm

From what I remember, the book actually mentioned that Pinkie did have a third sister who stayed behind to take care of the farm while the rest of the family visited Pinkie.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:55 pm

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The Hub just tweeted this picture. I wonder why Winona, Angel, and Tank would show up for this?
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:58 pm

I approve of some pet action... Tank :allears:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:00 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Image

The Hub just tweeted this picture. I wonder why Winona, Angel, and Tank would show up for this?


Because Applejack, Rainbow Dash, and Fluttershy are there. It's night, so Owloicious is asleep and Pinkie is an asshole who left Gummy at home. :gotcha:

:ponder: And I do believe I spot a fabulous Rarity hat on the right, so I assume Opel said "screw that" and went to sleep.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:00 am

I find it Funny AJ can introduce as many family members as she wants & its fine but when Twy gets A Brother & sister in law or Pinkie A third sister the fanbase freaks out.

Other ponies are allowed to have family as well.

Im kinda hopin its eventually revealed Fluttershy has a big brother even more shy then she is. XD

Also, yay the pets still exist!!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:01 am

:flirt: Well howdy there Maud, Pinkie was just telling me and my kin a few weeks ago how we're so much better a family than yours.
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Postby ZamuelNow (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:04 am

The Doctor wrote:Because Applejack, Rainbow Dash, and Fluttershy are there. It's night, so Owloicious is asleep and Pinkie is an asshole who left Gummy at home. :gotcha:


Considering it's Season 4, it's possible Gummy is hiding in her hair.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:06 am

The Doctor wrote::flirt: Well howdy there Maud, Pinkie was just telling me and my kin a few weeks ago how we're so much better a family than yours.



Oh sweet Celestia yes! I hope Pinkie brings up the Apple-Pie connection only to have Maud bash it. I wanna see Maud make AJ & the rest snap.

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Postby Applepie (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:12 am

Yay, it's the return of the pets again.

Now stay tuned for another sneak.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:19 am

Applepie wrote:Yay, it's the return of the pets again.

Now stay tuned for a clip.

It won't be a clip, it will be a full image of her.

Fizzbuzz wrote:Incidentally, that book did also mention a third sister of Pinkie's, so Maud's existence isn't the fault of the new writer majorly fucking up or anything.
The books clearly had S4 knowledge. Noelle still could be at fault here.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:20 am

Wayoshi wrote:It won't be a clip, it will be a full image of her.

The books clearly had S4 knowledge. Noelle still could be at fault here.


How is anyone at fault for anything.

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:26 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:Image

The Hub just tweeted this picture. I wonder why Winona, Angel, and Tank would show up for this?

I think I know who the mysterious Maud is.... :starity:

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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:28 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:I think I know who the mysterious Maud is.... :starity:

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Now you ruined the surpise. :amazing:
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Postby Princess Thunderburger (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:34 am

Oh my God. Guys. Oh my God. I just. Guys. I just realized the pun behind this name. :v: I'm going to bed now.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:36 am

Djeinus wrote:Oh my God. Guys. Oh my God. I just. Guys. I just realized the pun behind this name. :v: I'm going to bed now.


No you don't! Tell the rest of us first, then go to bed.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:40 am

And here are Maud Pie revealed at last.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:40 am

Wayoshi wrote:The books clearly had S4 knowledge. Noelle still could be at fault here.

Still, what's more likely? A new writer writes a character into a script by mistake and, instead of Meghan McCarthy editing it to refer to one of Pinkie's existing sisters, the entire gang (down to the animators and even G.M. Berrow) rolls with it? Or the mysterious existence of Pinkie's third sister was planned from the start, possibly as a Hasbro mandate?
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:41 am

So, what's her shtick going to be? Stuck up and serious? :ponder:
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:49 am

She's Daria.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:49 am

My guess is they just didn't care about what was in the past episode, or simply forgot about it, so when they realized that they added one more sister, they just said "fuck it" and just went with it.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:55 am

Definatly see her as being the Rarity of the Pies :rariwhat:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:58 am

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I think Pinkie might be adopted :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:01 am

Mr. Big wrote:My guess is they just didn't care about what was in the past episode, or simply forgot about it, so when they realized that they added one more sister, they just said "fuck it" and just went with it.

I don't think they'd outright forget, especially considering how S4 has been bringing up and developing a fair number of other old character details from S1. Right now I'm thinking Maud will be written as being so grumpy and dour that she even barely showed any enthusiasm for the party that Pinkie Pie threw for the rest of her family.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:05 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I don't think they'd outright forget


They managed to forget about introducing Pee Wee and unlike Pinkie's sister's he was named and everything, so it's entierly plausable they just forgot.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:13 am

Maud just dont give a buck. :v:


Also, these in depth disscussions about new family members are endlessly entertaining.


I Just wonder what fans will do when we find out Discord has 12 older brothers. And Fluttershy has an evil twin sister.

Edit: They didnt forget PeeWee, they made Spike give him back to his parents.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 1:15 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:Edit: They didnt forget PeeWee, they made Spike give him back to his parents.


That was added later on, it wasn't in the script.
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