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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:06 pm

The S4 rewatch is continuing tonight at 7:30 Eastern, about an hour and a half from now.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:27 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:The S4 rewatch is continuing tonight at 7:30 Eastern, about an hour and a half from now.


Which episodes? I might join in :ponder:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:34 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:
Which episodes? I might join in :ponder:

Simple Ways, Filli Vanilli, Twilight Time, and It Ain't Easy Being Breezies. Since the show started back up, I've also been airing the most recent episode after that week's set of old episodes.

Also it just started a couple minutes ago :-I
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:07 pm

Soft Snow wrote:Just because you can never die of old age doesn't mean you shouldn't reproduce. Unless you are legit immortal and can't die. Otherwise, given enough time you will eventually die from something other then old age. A predator, disease or even an accident. If you can die, mathematically at someone point you will eventually die. Even if you live for a billion years.

Actually, did you know lobster don't die from old age? The older they yet the more bigger and stronger they become. They even found some 400 years old. But despite being immortal, they don't have long life expectancy. Even sponges have been known to live longer then 15,000 years. Some things on earth don't die from old age just still have to reproduce.


Who? Why do these things happen to ponies?
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Realistically, it was never going to win due to how it got nominated.

But it finished above No Award, which given the issues that happened with the Puppies is a win in my book
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:58 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Simple Ways, Filli Vanilli, Twilight Time, and It Ain't Easy Being Breezies. Since the show started back up, I've also been airing the most recent episode after that week's set of old episodes.

Also it just started a couple minutes ago :-I


Yeah I forgot :-I Good episodes though :v:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:16 pm

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Realistically, it was never going to win due to how it got nominated.

But it finished above No Award, which given the issues that happened with the Puppies is a win in my book


Actually, it came in dead last. Both it and Supernatural came in below "No Award".

http://www.thehugoawards.org/content/pd ... istics.pdf

They rank the choices, not just pick a winner. Which weighs the votes as they go down and distribute the placings.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:43 pm

I just read that Confalone isn't returning for S7? And maybe S7 hasn't even started production?

Rumors I guess, but could there really be no S7 before the movie?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Aug 27, 2016 11:54 pm

Do you have a source on any of those rumors?
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:01 am

I've always thought there wouldn't be a season 7 before the movie so I'm not surprised about these rumors.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:46 am

there was some tweet on Thursday saying today was Confalone's last.

vague 4chan on no S7. I thought it was confirmed but I guess an employee's twitter account was fake.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:05 am

I have to imagine if S7 wasn't happening before the movie then S6 would not have started as soon as it did.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:09 am

Wayoshi wrote:there was some tweet on Thursday saying today was Confalone's last.

I looked through his tweets a bit and it looks to me like he just hasn't written any more episodes, if there even is going to be a seventh season. He did write some episodes for a new Disney show called Future-Worm!, but it doesn't seem like he got outright poached like AKR was.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:12 am

Unless the break between seasons is as short as the one between 5 and 6, then I don't see a full season managing to get aired between the end of season 6 (presumably late October) and the release of the movie (early next October).

Of course it doesn't help we don't know who all is working on the show and who is working exclusively on the movie besides like Theissen or McCarthy and Ingram. If a season 7 isn't soon announced after season 6 ends I don't think they'd try to squeeze one out before the movie.
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:14 am

DerFurShur wrote:Unless the break between seasons is as short as the one between 5 and 6, then I don't see a full season managing to get aired between the end of season 6 (presumably late October) and the release of the movie (early next October).

Of course it doesn't help we don't know who all is working on the show and who is working exclusively on the movie besides like Theissen or McCarthy and Ingram. If a season 7 isn't soon announced after season 6 ends I don't think they'd try to squeeze one out before the movie.


I don't think Season 7 is going to happen before the movie, but I doubt the show will end after the first theatrical release. If the movie is a huge hit, it only seem viable for Hasbro to want to make, at least, one sequel. From a business perspective, I presume the show will end with a second movie.

Or I could just be optimistic. :-P
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 3:54 am

Oh I don't think the show is necessarily over after the movie since DHX was looking to hire more people to work on their FiM/EqG team. Though that position could be for the movie too.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:59 am

DerFurShur wrote:Of course it doesn't help we don't know who all is working on the show and who is working exclusively on the movie besides like Theissen or McCarthy and Ingram. If a season 7 isn't soon announced after season 6 ends I don't think they'd try to squeeze one out before the movie.

Maybe. They did kinda drop this season on us on short notice and earlier than expected.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 6:31 am

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Actually, it came in dead last. Both it and Supernatural came in below "No Award".

http://www.thehugoawards.org/content/pd ... istics.pdf

They rank the choices, not just pick a winner. Which weighs the votes as they go down and distribute the placings.


Eh, I'm not to upset then since it seems most of the No Award there is Puppy Backlash. And most of it seems to be more voter apathy given you lose some 600 voters there.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:16 pm

Hey, there's a MLP reference in today's "Sally Forth"

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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 2:58 am

I'm sad over the corrupt award system. I feel that ponies deserves more award especially after objectively worse shows got more awards then they did.
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Do you really think they will air no new seasons for a year until after the movie comes out? What is wrong with airing the show and having the movie out at the same time? I like lots of pony.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:45 am

Well presumably the movie is going to have its own seperate line of toys and other merchandise, and you probably don't want to split time, energy, and money with another line of pony toys from that season.

Another thing we don't know is how much of the staff is going to be working on the film besides the big names like Theissen, so unless they've hired on a lot more people it'd make sense a lot of the people who normally work on the show are currently making the movie.

Like I don't think it's impossible there won't be a seventh season come out before the movie it just seems unlikely.
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Postby dragoonanime (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:28 pm

I feel that going a full year without anything pony would be a big mistake.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:30 pm

They did it once already. Except this time they're going to be hyping an actual movie the time.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:13 pm

dragoonanime wrote:I feel that going a full year without anything pony would be a big mistake.


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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:48 pm

I wouldn't want another ponyless year, either. I doubt Hasbro would be able to market the movie too well if the movie's main audience (children) weren't still getting a steady-ish stream of new material from the show.
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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:17 pm

Yeah, skipping out on a seventh season right before the movie is a terrible idea. Kid's lives are going to change drastically in a year and if they aren't kept on the wagon with constant new things I'm sure the movie will flop.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:51 pm

Maybe Hasbro will release a big series of shorts on YouTube, animated in the movie's style, next year. YouTube shorts seemed to work well for marketing the later EqG movies.
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:18 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Maybe Hasbro will release a big series of shorts on YouTube, animated in the movie's style, next year. YouTube shorts seemed to work well for marketing the later EqG movies.


Plus we'll probably get a couple awesome trailers for it! :awesomedash:

Personally, I'd like to see another MLP book (that builds upon the lore), but with Rogers no longer on the team, chances are unlikely. :fluttersmith:
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:24 pm

Been catching up on all the comics I've neglected reading, and my favorite by far has to be the Rarity/Pinkie Pie one where they recreate the Emperor's New Clothes using different media and art styles. For sheer creativity alone it's a winner.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:37 pm

No show this week?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:43 am

As I previously said, I canceled this week because my parents are coming to visit right now.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:57 am

You said "might" which leaves me with a sense of hope. Is it my fault I'm overly optimistic?
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Anyway, in other news, it seems like the rating for the show went up. The last three episodes were over 200,000 views and the last two episodes were over 250,000 views. Things are looking bright. Yay.
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Postby Yolostar (?) » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:56 am

rudecyrus wrote:Been catching up on all the comics I've neglected reading, and my favorite by far has to be the Rarity/Pinkie Pie one where they recreate the Emperor's New Clothes using different media and art styles. For sheer creativity alone it's a winner.
A bunch of the show's VAs did a reading of that issue at bronycon this year. It was a pretty good panel.
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:00 am

Soft Snow wrote:You said "might" which leaves me with a sense of hope. Is it my fault I'm overly optimistic?
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Anyway, in other news, it seems like the rating for the show went up. The last three episodes were over 200,000 views and the last two episodes were over 250,000 views. Things are looking bright. Yay.
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The season openers/finales also typically spike in views. :party:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:16 am

Apparently now I spend my precious Sunday hours making spreadsheets.

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Little chart of the MLP writers, which seasons they worked on and which season was their first. Actual spreadsheet HERE. Obviously doesn't reflect any S6 writers who've yet to be announced.

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Postby Zebran (?) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:00 am

Been wondering what will become of Starlight Glimmer's character by the time this season is over. She started out as a suppressed version of herself which does make some sense and at every possible turn, she has to deal with her past actions. For real. S6 premiere? Confessing it to Sunburst. No Second Prances? It's how she and Trixie relate to one another. The Times They Are A Changeling? Realizing she can't judge Thorax.
A bit funny even if a little far fetched. Is this a running gag now or what? :snicker:

Hey, Starlight. Remember how you nearly doomed all of Equestria because things didn't go your way? Those were the days, huh? :whatsup:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:36 am

Yeah, I like what we've seen of her so far but she needs to interact with other characters besides Twilight and find her own place. That Trixie episode was a good start but she needs like, a map episode. Or better yet, a slice of life one, since to be honest map episodes aren't usually good :v:

So what I'm saying is we need a Starlight & Rarity episode.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:17 am

PaulloDEC wrote:Apparently now I spend my precious Sunday hours making spreadsheets.

Twilight approvals of your new hobby.
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Postby Zebran (?) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:07 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:So what I'm saying is we need a Starlight & Rarity episode.

Something like this?

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So yeah, there are another 6 episodes before the two-parter season finale.
I don't know, I just thought with Starlight being a new addition to the cast, she'd have a lot of room for character development or something. :pinkieshrug:
Or it could be that the writers don't really know what to do with her. On the flipside to that, maybe it's for the best that they take their time and properly flesh her out first. Nobody wants to see her character come out as half-assed as her backstory, after all.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:25 am

I'm happy with the amount of Starlight that we've gotten thus far. The thing with introducing a new supporting character like this is that you can't go too hard on featuring them right away, lest it seem like you're trying to force the character upon the viewers. Like with Cadance and Shining Armor, after they were introduced at the end of S2 and seen again at the beginning of S3, we got little more of them until Games Ponies Play, then not again until Three's A Crowd; eventually we started getting more familiar with them, and we saw them more, but they're not going to be seen too terribly often seeing as they're not the main characters of this show. Starlight Glimmer's circumstances are obviously different, given that she's living with Twilight and all, and to that end we have gotten a bit more of her, but not to the point where I think she's trying to be pushed as an eleventh main character.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 2:53 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I'm happy with the amount of Starlight that we've gotten thus far. The thing with introducing a new supporting character like this is that you can't go too hard on featuring them right away, lest it seem like you're trying to force the character upon the viewers. Like with Cadance and Shining Armor, after they were introduced at the end of S2 and seen again at the beginning of S3, we got little more of them until Games Ponies Play, then not again until Three's A Crowd; eventually we started getting more familiar with them, and we saw them more, but they're not going to be seen too terribly often seeing as they're not the main characters of this show. Starlight Glimmer's circumstances are obviously different, given that she's living with Twilight and all, and to that end we have gotten a bit more of her, but not to the point where I think she's trying to be pushed as an eleventh main character.


Ehhh, I think Cadance and Shining Armor are another example of treading too lightly around new major characters. They still haven't done much character development for the two of them, and now they're being trundled off to parenthood. Yet major story arcs still revolve very heavily around the Crystal Empire, so we keep seeing them.

Starlight has the same issue Twilight did in season 4: They made her redemption a big event, but then it felt like they started writing the next season before deciding what to do with her. Season 4 Twilight was a princess in name only, with exactly one episode (outside of premiere/finale) touching on her new authority. In this season, Starlight has had three episodes that focus on her (the premiere, Trixie, and the Christmas episode), and then she's completely absent from everything else. Her cameo in the Changeling episode was her first for the second half of this season.

I don't think they need to force Starlight into every episode, but it feels sometimes like big story developments are kept sealed away from the day-to-day episodes when they could just be quietly acknowledged -- show some ponies greeting Princess Twilight, or have Starlight present in ensemble episodes (the cookie episode, the Parks&Rec episode). For example, she was there in the beginning of "Spice Up Your Life" when they rebooted the map. Small details go a long way.
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