S04E24: Equestria Games

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Re: S04E24: Equestria Games

Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:21 pm

Star Platinum wrote:- no lines from Celestia and Luna, is Celestia's last line seriously from 402? :unenthused:

Technically, Celestia did speak as part of the opening narration in Castle Mane-ia. :-I
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:21 pm

I won't lie, the ending of this episode got to me because I've been there. More times than I care to count.

It'll get better, Spike. :flutterunsmith:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:32 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I won't lie, the ending of this episode got to me because I've been there. More times than I care to count.

It'll get better, Spike. :flutterunsmith:

Once the moratorium is over, someone should cut out the ending and put it in its own sticky thread in the Cottage.
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Postby Chaos Sonic (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:38 pm

The pony TSA is clearly racist. :ohrarity:
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Postby Venusy (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:39 pm

Stuff wrote:This was hilarious with a terrific ending. Cloudsdale should write a formal letter of their displeasure.

The only thing that should have been changed was the whole "Ponyville wins the medal count!". The game's doping committee should look in to that...

It makes some degree of sense - some of the events can only be competed in with pegasi. To medal in some events, it's likely that Ponyville only needed to show up to beat Canterlot and Manehattan. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:42 pm

Chaos Sonic wrote:The pony TSA is clearly racist. :ohrarity:

Notice that they only put out the anti-magic thing after Twilight abused magic in the opening ceremony. :spike101:
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 3:44 pm

I'm sure that the princesses were exempt from having their magic disabled. Twilight was just about to spring into action when Spike went ahead of her and melted the ice cloud.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:25 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Seriously? What was wrong with that? Spike has made up dumb shit like that before.

Actually believing that shit was pretty dumb. It was kinda unnecessary. :pinkieshrug:

Some parts of this episode felt like filling out for time when they could have done it better with more EqGames events. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:25 pm

Image Next thing you know, you'll want a rock concert.

:yikes: But...

:maud: It's all right, Spike. I've got this.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:27 pm

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Sure there's the saddle Arabians on the left, but where does the pony on the right come from?

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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:31 pm

The pony on the far right looks to be Bridleonian. :spike101:
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Postby Thaddeus (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:31 pm

Aw, man. I really relate to that moral, Hell, I still have issues with it really. Episode was good, and I like it. :allears:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:42 pm

I have to say that was perhaps one of the most ambitious morals they've done and it was pulled off perfectly.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:45 pm

That was definitely one of the best Spike episodes of the series, maybe a close second behind Just for Sidekicks.

I felt like I was watching Season 1 of The Office when he was singing the anthem. I was cringing so hard the whole time. :nngh:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:50 pm

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MesopotHAYamia :hiiiii:

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Postby ScionVyse (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:51 pm

So this was a great episode. Probably gonna put it as one of the best this season, easily, maybe even one of the best in the series. :crack: :party: :awesomedash:

At 10 minutes in or so, I didn't know it was going to be a Spike episode, and I was kinda upset that he was yet again just going to be that colossal fuckup that gets the plot moving for everyone else. Then the rest of the episode happened, and it all made sense, and worked perfectly. Spike's singing was sorta cringeworthy, but everything else was fantastic. The drama worked well, the humor was great (Dash being totally inconspicuous and casual, Pinkie's "Nailed it!" after the anthem. :v: ) and it was all paced fantastically. How Spike acted throughout the episode was incredibly believable and relatable, and really resonated.

I know what it's like to feel like a constant disappointment to everyone, despite no one else feeling like you are one. I know what it's like to have a mistake from your past to constantly be a weight pressing against you, crippling any chance of growth. I know what it's like to be self deprecating, playing down every accomplishment because it doesn't feel like an accomplishment to you.
Spike in this episode was the best he's ever been; sure he messes up, but it's not ever directly a joke here, it's serious, because how he feels about himself is serious.

Even at the end of the episode after the plot has resolved, Spike isn't all happy-go-lucky, but he's at least realized what's happening and is dealing with it. Honestly, this doesn't exactly make up for Spike being the butt of all the jokes and slapstick for the past 4 seasons with no respect given to him, but this episode wouldn't have been as believable had Spike not had any of these failures in the past. I kinda felt like this wasn't just an episode that could have worked in S1 or S2, it was one that had been a long time coming that just happened to occur at the Equestria Games, and the fact that it took the forefront really showed how much respect for the issue Dave Polsky has. If it had been a subplot and the moral of the episode was something like Dash saying "It's cool we only got silver because we're still super celebrities yo," I'd have been incredibly pissed off.
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Postby reidransom (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 5:56 pm

Need casual Dash smiley.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:03 pm

This episode was a lot of Fun.

:party: THE GOOD!
-Pretty much every second Spike was on screen.
-Rainbow Dash losing, and being totally OK with that. Just a tiny detail that I absolutely loved. Showed how much she's grown.
-CMC going to cheer Spike up. Simply adorable.
-The Song
-Mr. The Dragon
-Pony TSA
-Nice conclusion


:rant: THE NOT-SO GODD
-There was no need to have Ponyville win the medal count. Coming from what is supposed to be a small backwoods town, I felt this was a totally pointless inclusion.
- "I can set fires with my mind". While I loved Spike otherwise this ep, this came off as too stupid.
- Celestia and Luna don't get a single line. :rainbert:
- Wish we had seen more sporting events. While the archery at least showed that this was not a Pegasus only thing, I would have at least liked to catch a glimpse of Unicorn sports.
- Only one part. While this Spike story would not have supported two parts, the games themselves should have been. All that build up and the games are just a background thing in a Spike episode seems a poor way to conclude this fun arc.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:10 pm

Ponyville is not that small anymore. Besides, given Ponyville's apparently significant racial diversity, perhaps they were able to field more of the best kinds of pony for each event than other cities with worse racial balance.
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Postby Dragoness (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:14 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Seriously? What was wrong with that? Spike has made up dumb shit like that before. You missed a really great episode over one joke.

I'm sick of Spike being treated like an idiot? Also, the rest of the episode preceding it hadn't interested me at all. It was sort of a final straw. And from what I heard about the "song" I'm glad I didn't stick around. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:15 pm

You should really try to watch the rest of the episode...it does give him some excellent moments.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:16 pm

:allright: "Last time you were here"
:shepspike: "Uh yeah... haven't been here since..."
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Dubbing Spike's awkward singing with various music is going to be a thing... Space Jam, please :allears:

Episode itself was so-so... that ending, though...

Pinkie was annoying... and Ponyville wins stuff again.
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Postby Dragoness (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:18 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:You should really try to watch the rest of the episode...it does give him some excellent moments.


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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:20 pm

Corpy wrote:Pinkie was annoying

I thought Pinkie was alright, although she was hardly in it. I did laugh at her saying "NAILED IT!", an otherwise bright spot to a very cringeworthy scene.

Actually, did Fluttershy have any lines in this episode?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:20 pm

ShinyNautili wrote:I'm sick of Spike being treated like an idiot? Also, the rest of the episode preceding it hadn't interested me at all. It was sort of a final straw. And from what I heard about the "song" I'm glad I didn't stick around. :pinkieshrug:

While it was dumb, it felt natural to me. He is still a kid and isn't going to be thinking quite the same way as the grown-ups (aside from Pinkie Pie, perhaps). If you're bothered by how he's been treated, you really should watch the entire episode, as it's easily his best one yet.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:21 pm

I thought Fluttershy had a few lines on the train in the beginning.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:22 pm

Mr. Big wrote:Actually, did Fluttershy have any lines in this episode?

We got a " :yay: yay" out of her when she and the rest of the Ponyville team took the field in the opening ceremony.
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Postby Dragoness (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:22 pm

Again, :effort:

Especially knowing there's a horrid, "cringeworthy" song scene, since what's "cringeworthy" to other people tends to be downright unwatchable for me.
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Postby Lorce (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:27 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I thought Pinkie was alright, although she was hardly in it. I did laugh at her saying "NAILED IT!", an otherwise bright spot to a very cringeworthy scene.

Actually, did Fluttershy have any lines in this episode?

It was kinda odd she was missing in the scene with Rainbow's casual acting. Thought it would feel natural for her to provide some input when Twilight told them what happened to Spike too, so this might be severely reaching but i wonder if the fact she had no lines in that scene played a part in her not being included in the animation for it. :ponder:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:34 pm

When you think about it, Applejack didn't really have that many lines either. Funny.
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Postby Foalish Gambino (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:35 pm

ShinyNautili wrote:Again, :effort:

Especially knowing there's a horrid, "cringeworthy" song scene, since what's "cringeworthy" to other people tends to be downright unwatchable for me.


Anytime anyone can go all Enrico Palazzo on an anthem in a comedy is fine by me.

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Postby Minty (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:39 pm

I think the moral was really good, and I think it's extra good they chose a child character for it. And more Spike/CMC interactions are always great (and adorable).

Speaking of adorable, I want a Fluttershy and Bulk Biceps sitcom spinoff. They're hilarious when they're onscreen together.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:40 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Ponyville is not that small anymore.

...Since when has it ever been even medium? It should always be small

ShinyNatuli: Emptyposting with the effort smiley when you refuse to fully watch the episode is offensive. :gumout: .
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:41 pm

I always thought it became that way in Season 3. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:46 pm

I loved the episode but I'm gonna love 'insert crazy music over Spike's singing the anthem' youtubes way more I think.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 6:56 pm

If you ask me to picture a small Equestrian town, I think of a place like Appleloosa or Dodge Junction. We've seen that the buildings and streets in the middle of Ponyville can actually get fairly dense, even as early in the series as MMDW, or most recently seen in Inspiration Manifestation where Rarity is sneaking through town and fabulous-ifying everything while using the urban cover to remain just out of sight (thinking of the scene with Applejack's cart, mainly).
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Postby HuffyTheMagicDragon (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 7:00 pm

^Ho boy, don't bring up MMDW. It didn't exactly blow over very well in terms of world-building. But I do agree with your general point that Ponyville isn't the smallest town in Equestria. Personally I was okay with them winning the most medals and balancing it out by having Dash & Fluts win silver.

ShinyNautili wrote:Again, :effort:

Especially knowing there's a horrid, "cringeworthy" song scene, since what's "cringeworthy" to other people tends to be downright unwatchable for me.

Dude, it's honestly possibly the best Spike episode of the whole show so far. The cringeworthy song (it was only cringeworthy because he didn't know the words) was hilarious, but even if you decide to skip that part, the rest of the ep is great, and Spike gets to be a badass fire-master in the end. And learn a good moral. But if you can't take 20 minutes to watch it, then whatever I guess. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Foalish Gambino (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 7:14 pm

shotgunbadger wrote:I loved the episode but I'm gonna love 'insert crazy music over Spike's singing the anthem' youtubes way more I think.


That clip from the Naked Gun I posted above? If that clip's audio is not mashed up with the video of Spike singing by the day's end, I will be shocked.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 7:25 pm

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 03, 2014 8:01 pm

I still think JFS is way better... I understand the moral can be related to easily, but what else spectacular is there here? :pinkieshrug:

I'm chalking this up to "OMG new episode" overreaction. :twiright:
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