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<p class="author"><img src="./styles/shine/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" />by <strong>PaulloDEC</strong> <a href="search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=PaulloDEC&sd=a&t=5120&sf=msgonly">(?)</a> » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:40 pm</p>
<div class="content"><span style="font-size: 200%; line-height: 116%;"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="color: #FF0000">CAUTION: This project is updated as and when new information becomes available. That means SPOILERS, sometimes even for episodes that are yet to air.</span></span></span><br /><br />Hi everyone!<br /><br />We talked about this briefly in the Newbie thread, and it was suggested I make a new thread. So here I am!<br /><br />Over the past few weeks I've been attempting to create a definitive timeline of key events in the FiM universe. Currently I'm working with information from the show and the comics, as well as select spin-off materials (specifically anything written by the show staff). You can check out my progress here: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/165HiA4rvdFF9KgCLnikqv-hSnSiU_uHZRJwD3-vba8s/edit?usp=sharing" class="postlink" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/165HiA4rvdFF9KgCLnikqv-hSnSiU_uHZRJwD3-vba8s/edit?usp=sharing</a>.<br /><br />My main focus here was order, as opposed to assigning actual years to stuff. I've tried to estimate years where there's information to support it (specifically the few years before 0 BF) but most of the time I'm lucky to hit the right century.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm always looking to make it more accurate and/or complete, so if you see any errors or inconsistencies (or any spots where you think something ought to go) please let me know!</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote class="uncited"><div> [url=<span style="font-weight: bold">"</span>https://docs.google.com/document/d/165HiA4rvdFF9KgCLnikqv-hSnSiU_uHZRJwD3-vba8s/edit?usp=sharing<span style="font-weight: bold">"</span>]HERE[/url]</div></blockquote><br /><br />You dont need " ". Just:<br /><br /> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/165HiA4rvdFF9KgCLnikqv-hSnSiU_uHZRJwD3-vba8s/edit?usp=sharing" class="postlink" target="_blank">HERE</a>.<br /><br />But yes.... Welcome <img src="./images/smilies/emot-pinkie-heeerespinkie.png" alt=":amazing:" title="Heeeeere's Pinkie!" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /></div>
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<div class="content">What do you think of the ages of Spike and the CMC? We obviously know that Spike was born at the exact same time the Mane Six all got their cutie marks, but were the CMC already alive? The few pieces of evidence we have in that regard say that the CMC are very slightly older than Spike. However, they're comic book covers, such as this one for MLP:FiM #17:<br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/nVuqbVF.jpg" alt="Image" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /><br /><br />Naturally that makes their credibility incredibly shaky at best.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664771#p664771" class="postlink" target="_blank">Fizzbuzz</a> wrote:</cite>What do you think of the ages of Spike and the CMC? We obviously know that Spike was born at the exact same time the Mane Six all got their cutie marks, but were the CMC already alive? The few pieces of evidence we have in that regard say that the CMC are very slightly older than Spike. However, they're comic book covers, such as this one for MLP:FiM #17:<br /><img src="http://i.imgur.com/nVuqbVF.jpg" alt="Image" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /><br /><br />Naturally that makes their credibility incredibly shaky at best.</div></blockquote><br /><br />This one sorta leads into the "how are old the Mane 6 anyway" debate.<br /><br />So, I've always put them at around 20 years old (give or take, Fluttershy a year older than Pinkie, blah blah). They live independently of their parents, all work, one runs a small business, etc.<br /><br />Likewise, I've always put the CMCs at around half that, so 10 years old. They're still in primary school, but they're old enough to knock about on their own, have a clubhouse, etc. Spike was hatched at around the same time Twilight became Celestia's student, and I've already plugged that one in at 10 BF (where Twilight is 10 years old).<br /><br />That's a very long way of saying that I'd agree with the suggestion that Spike and the CMCs are roughly the same ages. For the sake of my sanity, I'll pretend that cover doesn't exist! <img src="./images/smilies/twonk.png" alt=":twonk:" title="LET ME SING FOR YOU THE SONG OF MY BROTHER" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /></div>
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<div class="content">Apparently the Maleficent parody by Hasbro with <img src="./images/smilies/ponydrugs.gif" alt=":ponydrugs:" title="gb2tcc" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> has Discord mentioning that Twilight Sparkle was 16 years old... <img src="./images/smilies/pcwavy.gif" alt=":pcstare:" title="My faithful student, go get me lunch." class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /><br /><br />Granted, maybe that was just a direct quote from the movie <img src="./images/smilies/cheese.png" alt=":cheese:" title="dah whats up doc" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> and they didn't adjust the age for the parody but I wouldn't be surprised if she was 16 thanks to cartoon logic... and Equestria Girls <img src="./images/smilies/ohrarity.png" alt=":ohrarity:" title="Okay, seriously. This dress is ridiculous." class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> (high school)</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664788#p664788" class="postlink" target="_blank">AppleCobbler44</a> wrote:</cite>Apparently the Maleficent parody by Hasbro with <img src="./images/smilies/ponydrugs.gif" alt=":ponydrugs:" title="gb2tcc" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> has Discord mentioning that Twilight Sparkle was 16 years old... <img src="./images/smilies/pcwavy.gif" alt=":pcstare:" title="My faithful student, go get me lunch." class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /><br /><br />Granted, maybe that was just a direct quote from the movie <img src="./images/smilies/cheese.png" alt=":cheese:" title="dah whats up doc" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> and they didn't adjust the age for the parody but I wouldn't be surprised if she was 16 thanks to cartoon logic... and Equestria Girls <img src="./images/smilies/ohrarity.png" alt=":ohrarity:" title="Okay, seriously. This dress is ridiculous." class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> (high school)</div></blockquote><br /><br />You had me worried there for a moment, but thankfully it's a direct quote from the real Maleficent trailer. Wasn't keen on the idea of having to change all the age-related entries just yet!</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664786#p664786" class="postlink" target="_blank">PaulloDEC</a> wrote:</cite>That's a very long way of saying that I'd agree with the suggestion that Spike and the CMCs are roughly the same ages. For the sake of my sanity, I'll pretend that cover doesn't exist! <img src="./images/smilies/twonk.png" alt=":twonk:" title="LET ME SING FOR YOU THE SONG OF MY BROTHER" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /></div></blockquote><br />That's about what I always thought of them, too, and I doubt they're more than a year apart. In all three covers (that one, and Sibsy's covers for Rarity's and Applejack's micro-series issues) where they've shown up, the CMC don't look any older than newborn babies, so I'm sure none of them are significantly older than Spike is. But like I said, the canonicity of three alternate covers for the comic books is highly questionable.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664791#p664791" class="postlink" target="_blank">PaulloDEC</a> wrote:</cite><br />You had me worried there for a moment, but thankfully it's a direct quote from the real Maleficent trailer. Wasn't keen on the idea of having to change all the age-related entries just yet!</div></blockquote><br /><br />The Journal of the Two Sisters claims that Pinkie Pride was Rainbow Dash's 10th Birthaversary. Assuming this means ten years in Ponyville, it would seem to indicate she's probably in her mid 20s. Maybe early 20s if she moved down soon after the events in CMC.<br /><br />Edit: I'd definitely consider that cover non-canonical, though, since they shouldn't have known each other at that age and certainly shouldn't have Spike's egg before getting their cutie marks.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664839#p664839" class="postlink" target="_blank">ShieldedDiamond</a> wrote:</cite>When did Sunset Shimmer go into the portal to Dougworld? Because we know that, according to that time, she was there for 4 years, and was at the end of Highschool at the end of that. Perhaps Equestria Girls does mirror the numerical age of the character, but the reason, say, Rarity owns a business is because she's "older in pony years" so to say?</div></blockquote><blockquote class="uncited"><div>The Sunset Shimmer thing is a tricky one. We’re told she’s a past student of Celestia’s, but we’re not sure how far in the past that was. She doesn’t seem that much older than Twilight and the gang, and the age she manifests as in the Equestria Girls world strongly supports that theory. So going by that logic, she belongs somewhere between Cadance and Twilight in the “Celestia’s Students” list. This suggests that Celestia was working with Twilight, Sunset and probably Cadance during the same period.</div></blockquote><br />My crazy headcanon for this is that time is stopped in Equestria Girls Land, Once Upon A Time-style. That way, Sunset Shimmer could have been Celestia's student ages ago, and she and Twilight could be around the same age, <span style="font-style: italic">and</span> Twilight could have never heard of her before. Also, it resolves the weirdness with having apparently ordinary counterparts for two immortals (ie, are they immortal too, or did Twilight just happen to come at the right time to meet them?).<br /><br />Where do you think Tirek fits in? Do we have anything to go on besides sometime after Celestia and Luna show up, but before Starswirl the Bearded leaves?</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664820#p664820" class="postlink" target="_blank">Fizzbuzz</a> wrote:</cite>That's about what I always thought of them, too, and I doubt they're more than a year apart. In all three covers (that one, and Sibsy's covers for Rarity's and Applejack's micro-series issues) where they've shown up, the CMC don't look any older than newborn babies, so I'm sure none of them are significantly older than Spike is. But like I said, the canonicity of three alternate covers for the comic books is highly questionable.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Very much so.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664822#p664822" class="postlink" target="_blank">Bremen</a> wrote:</cite><br />The Journal of the Two Sisters claims that Pinkie Pride was Rainbow Dash's 10th Birthaversary. Assuming this means ten years in Ponyville, it would seem to indicate she's probably in her mid 20s. Maybe early 20s if she moved down soon after the events in CMC.</div></blockquote><br /><br />I could happily roll with early to mid 20s for Rainbow Dash. So long as we don't stray too far from ~10 = CMC age, ~20 = Mane 6 age, I shouldn't have any issues with the timeline.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Edit: I'd definitely consider that cover non-canonical, though, since they shouldn't have known each other at that age and certainly shouldn't have Spike's egg before getting their cutie marks.</div></blockquote><br /><br />I think it's probably best to consider all the comic covers as non-canon. Too many crazy things happen on those covers!</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664839#p664839" class="postlink" target="_blank">ShieldedDiamond</a> wrote:</cite>16, if that's true, seems a bit odd to me. Giving a 16 year old a position of a Princess seems a bit odd. <img src="./images/smilies/rainbowV.png" alt=":v:" title="derpy dash is such a jerk" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> <br /><br />When did Sunset Shimmer go into the portal to Dougworld? Because we know that, according to that time, she was there for 4 years, and was at the end of Highschool at the end of that. Perhaps Equestria Girls does mirror the numerical age of the character, but the reason, say, Rarity owns a business is because she's "older in pony years" so to say?</div></blockquote><br /><br />Sunset Shimmer was a real pain-in-the-ass to work out. I think I ultimately decided that the ages in Equestria Girls were too inconsistent to work with, and figured they could be written-off as magical nonsense. I mean, the Mane 6 are all back in high-school right off the bat.<br /><br />I've put Shimmer being booted by Celestia (and then entering the mirror) at around 10.5 BF. I won't copy/paste it here, but you can see my reasoning in the timeline for that entry.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div>My crazy headcanon for this is that time is stopped in Equestria Girls Land, Once Upon A Time-style. That way, Sunset Shimmer could have been Celestia's student ages ago, and she and Twilight could be around the same age, <span style="font-style: italic">and</span> Twilight could have never heard of her before. Also, it resolves the weirdness with having apparently ordinary counterparts for two immortals (ie, are they immortal too, or did Twilight just happen to come at the right time to meet them?).<br /><br />Where do you think Tirek fits in? Do we have anything to go on besides sometime after Celestia and Luna show up, but before Starswirl the Bearded leaves?</div></blockquote><br /><br />I don't think we've got any information about Tirek before his escape from Tartarus in S2. There's a whole lot of time between then and the formation of Equestria though, so who knows!</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664857#p664857" class="postlink" target="_blank">PaulloDEC</a> wrote:</cite>I don't think we've got any information about Tirek before his escape from Tartarus in S2. There's a whole lot of time between then and the formation of Equestria though, so who knows!</div></blockquote><br />According to Celestia's explanation in the first part of Twilight's Kingdom, he and Scorpan came from "a distant land" back in the days when Star Swirl the Bearded was alive. That, and Scorpan's betrayal of Tirek, is about all we know.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664906#p664906" class="postlink" target="_blank">Fizzbuzz</a> wrote:</cite>According to Celestia's explanation in the first part of Twilight's Kingdom, he and Scorpan came from "a distant land" back in the days when Star Swirl the Bearded was alive. That, and Scorpan's betrayal of Tirek, is about all we know.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Gotcha. The storybook scene from that episode notes that Scorpan befriended "a young unicorn wizard" in reference to Star Swirl; for Star Swirl to have been anything approaching "young" at that point places this event way back near the founding of Equestria. Given that Celestia also notes that he "soon came to appreciate the ways of Equestria", we can assume it took place after founding of the nation. <br /><br />Both events seem to take place within a fairly short period of time, so I'll place them shortly after the first modern Hearths Warming, and before the Reign of Discord.<br /><br />That's another event plugged in - thanks for bringing it up!</div>
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<div class="content">It might also be worth noting that Starswirl the Bearded was a notable figure at least as far back as the three tribes period - Clover the Clever namedrops him as her mentor. It's probably fair to assume he was some sort of court wizard for the Unicorn King. He was probably relatively old already by that point.<br /><br />In Luna Eclipsed, Twilight also calls him "the most important conjurer of the pre-classical era." Perhaps she means before the founding of Equestria? Or perhaps between then and the start of the Two Sisters era?<br /><br />Here's another event you don't have: the founding of Ponyville. We know that it took place when Granny Smith was around Applejack's age. And if you assume that ponies age like humans for the most part, I'd say she's around 80 maybe. ~60 years seems a little young, but it has always been depicted as a sort of a small town. There is the confounding factor of Twilight claiming that Ponyville's wrapped up winter without magic for hundreds of years, but you can handwave that away. I doubt the writers intended to imply that Granny Smith was hundreds of years old (unless she's secretly a powerful wizard like Starswirl and Sombra and Celestia).</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664950#p664950" class="postlink" target="_blank">Doctor Wheeze</a> wrote:</cite>It might also be worth noting that Starswirl the Bearded was a notable figure at least as far back as the three tribes period - Clover the Clever namedrops him as her mentor. It's probably fair to assume he was some sort of court wizard for the Unicorn King. He was probably relatively old already by that point.<br /><br />In Luna Eclipsed, Twilight also calls him "the most important conjurer of the pre-classical era." Perhaps she means before the founding of Equestria? Or perhaps between then and the start of the Two Sisters era?<br /><br />Here's another event you don't have: the founding of Ponyville. We know that it took place when Granny Smith was around Applejack's age. And if you assume that ponies age like humans for the most part, I'd say she's around 80 maybe. ~60 years seems a little young, but it has always been depicted as a sort of a small town. There is the confounding factor of Twilight claiming that Ponyville's wrapped up winter without magic for hundreds of years, but you can handwave that away. I doubt the writers intended to imply that Granny Smith was hundreds of years old (unless she's secretly a powerful wizard like Starswirl and Sombra and Celestia).</div></blockquote><br /><br />Good thinking re: Star Swirl, I'll definitely keep that in mind for future entries. It's interesting the way certain characters are treated in terms of extreme old-age; so far we've got Celestia and Luna as virtually eternal, and Star Swirl and Sombra as potentially thousands of years old. As for Discord, he mentions "eons" at one point, so who the hell knows.<br /><br />The Founding of Ponyville is another good one, I'll definitely add that in. With the exception of our super-old characters and other magical creatures (I'm looking at you again, Discord) our other characters seem to follow real world aging, so your guess for Granny Smith at around 80 seems on-point. I'm with you in regards to Twilight's earlier mention during the Winter Wrap Up. Assuming the weather is controlled by ponies in places other than just Ponyville, we can easily assume she just meant that the Winter Wrap-Up tradition itself has been going on for hundreds of years.<br /><br />EDIT: Can anyone get a fix on how old Granny Smith is in the "Family Appreciation Day" flashback? I'd initially assumed she was using the CMC body shape, but all the extra clothing is throwing me off a bit.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664956#p664956" class="postlink" target="_blank">PaulloDEC</a> wrote:</cite><br />Good thinking re: Star Swirl, I'll definitely keep that in mind for future entries. It's interesting the way certain characters are treated in terms of extreme old-age; so far we've got Celestia and Luna as virtually eternal, and Star Swirl and Sombra as potentially thousands of years old. As for Discord, he mentions "eons" at one point, so who the hell knows.<br /><br />The Founding of Ponyville is another good one, I'll definitely add that in. With the exception of our super-old characters and other magical creatures (I'm looking at you again, Discord) our other characters seem to follow real world aging, so your guess for Granny Smith at around 80 seems on-point. I'm with you in regards to Twilight's earlier mention during the Winter Wrap Up. Assuming the weather is controlled by ponies in places other than just Ponyville, we can easily assume she just meant that the Winter Wrap-Up tradition itself has been going on for hundreds of years.<br /><br />EDIT: Can anyone get a fix on how old Granny Smith is in the "Family Appreciation Day" flashback? I'd initially assumed she was using the CMC body shape, but all the extra clothing is throwing me off a bit.</div></blockquote><br /><br />If it helps, in the Journal Granny Smith claims the Apples came to Ponyville "Four core [sic] and seven seeds ago." Whether this actually means 87 years or is Granny Smith going senile I have no idea, though.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664969#p664969" class="postlink" target="_blank">Bremen</a> wrote:</cite><br />If it helps, in the Journal Granny Smith claims the Apples came to Ponyville "Four core [sic] and seven seeds ago." Whether this actually means 87 years or is Granny Smith going senile I have no idea, though.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yikes! Is that from the Journal of the Two Sisters?<br /><br />In any case, I wouldn't see any reason to doubt her given that she has no trouble relaying the rest of the story in "Family Appreciation Day". That would put her age in the present day somewhere in the region of 100 years old (which I might scoff at, if it weren't for the fact that my own grandmother turned 99 this year and is still pretty sharp). I'm happy to roll with that.</div>
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<div class="content">Ponyville as such a young town was one of those continuity things that never made much sense to me. Not only is the town in close proximity to the former Equestrian capitol, but it's also in close proximity to the current Equestrian capitol. The journal offers no clues as to how long the former capitol was there, as it offers no mention of Discord, Sombra, or any hint of discontent with Luna, so it could have been there for a thousand years itself. With his time travel affecting his age, who knows how long Starswirl survived. <br /><br />Just seems like a town that would have been around for a long time, even if it stayed small. Celestia and Luna chose their castle location not only for the Tree of Harmony, but for the solitude. While ponies made the journey, seeming regularly to see them, I can't imagine there wasn't a small town in close proximity to the castle. Also, with Luna able to understand Manticores (and I would assume, like Fluttershy, an affinity to other animals as well), the Everfree Forest was not as dangerous as it is in modern pony times.<br /><br />Another minor continuity issue is how long the three pony races ruled Equestria before seeking out the Alicorns. If Starswirl was around at both the founding, and to seek out the Alicorns, it could not have been all that long. Spike says "long before the rule of Celestia" during the HWE play, but I guess that can easily be brushed aside as artistic license for a play. I mentioned above Starswirls age being affected by time travel, but the journal indicates it is something he did after Celestia and Luna took the throne, so it would not have given him long life prior to that.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664973#p664973" class="postlink" target="_blank">PaulloDEC</a> wrote:</cite><br />Yikes! Is that from the Journal of the Two Sisters?<br /><br />In any case, I wouldn't see any reason to doubt her given that she has no trouble relaying the rest of the story in "Family Appreciation Day". That would put her age in the present day somewhere in the region of 100 years old (which I might scoff at, if it weren't for the fact that my own grandmother turned 99 this year and is still pretty sharp). I'm happy to roll with that.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yeah, it's from the Journal of the Two Sisters, Granny Smith writes an entry about the Pinkie Apple Pie episode.<br /><br />I could easily see her being 97 or so in the show, though. Some people just last.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664980#p664980" class="postlink" target="_blank">The Doctor</a> wrote:</cite><br />Another minor continuity issue is how long the three pony races ruled Equestria before seeking out the Alicorns. If Starswirl was around at both the founding, and to seek out the Alicorns, it could not have been all that long. Spike says "long before the rule of Celestia" during the HWE play, but I guess that can easily be brushed aside as artistic license for a play.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Given that there were almost immediately some issues with the likes of Princess Platinum and the Griffins over the creation of Equestria, it sounds to me like Celestia and Luna were approached almost immediately after the nation was founded. Otherwise these types of problems would have been dealt with before the princesses were crowned.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664977#p664977" class="postlink" target="_blank">ShieldedDiamond</a> wrote:</cite>I'm not sure if I would trust what Granny Smith says, regarding age. My guess would just be she's senile, I would rather find some more solid evidence for that. (Considering she said "core" and "seed" rather than score and year <img src="./images/smilies/rainbowV.png" alt=":v:" title="derpy dash is such a jerk" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> )</div></blockquote><br /><br />I'm willing to take her on her word, for now at least. The difference only ends up being around 30 years, which in the big scheme isn't that long of a stretch.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664980#p664980" class="postlink" target="_blank">The Doctor</a> wrote:</cite>Ponyville as such a young town was one of those continuity things that never made much sense to me. Not only is the town in close proximity to the former Equestrian capitol, but it's also in close proximity to the current Equestrian capitol. The journal offers no clues as to how long the former capitol was there, as it offers no mention of Discord, Sombra, or any hint of discontent with Luna, so it could have been there for a thousand years itself. Just seems like a town that would have been around for a long time, even if it stayed small. Celestia and Luna chose their castle location not only for the Tree of Harmony, but for the solitude. While ponies made the journey, seeming regularly to see them, I can't imagine there wasn't a small town in close proximity to the castle. Also, with Luna able to understand Manticores (and I would assume, like Fluttershy, an affinity to other animals as well), the Everfree Forest was not as dangerous as it is in modern pony times.</div></blockquote><br /><br />It's funny, one of the biggest things I've noticed while making the timeline is that the world of FiM is actually shrinking. Events that I initially assumed took place thousands of years apart are being revealed to have been only hundreds, or less. The distance between the founding of Equestria and Luna's banishment, for example. The latest comics shrunk that period <span style="font-style: italic">drastically</span>.<br /><br /><blockquote class="uncited"><div>Another minor continuity issue is how long the three pony races ruled Equestria before seeking out the Alicorns. If Starswirl was around at both the founding, and to seek out the Alicorns, it could not have been all that long. Spike says "long before the rule of Celestia" during the HWE play, but I guess that can easily be brushed aside as artistic license for a play.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Star Swirl's unconventional lifespan makes this pretty difficult to nail down. I'm assuming for now that he grew up as part of Unicorn society, and then later (as part of his magical experimentation/exploration) came into contact with Celestia/Luna/The Alicorns. Perhaps they're the reason for his longer lifespan?<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664981#p664981" class="postlink" target="_blank">Bremen</a> wrote:</cite><br />Yeah, it's from the Journal of the Two Sisters, Granny Smith writes an entry about the Pinkie Apple Pie episode.<br /><br />I could easily see her being 97 or so in the show, though. Some people just last.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yup, I'm totally cool with that.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664986#p664986" class="postlink" target="_blank">Perpetual Lurker</a> wrote:</cite><br />Given that there were almost immediately some issues with the likes of Princess Platinum and the Griffins over the creation of Equestria, it sounds to me like Celestia and Luna were approached almost immediately after the nation was founded. Otherwise these types of problems would have been dealt with before the princesses were crowned.</div></blockquote><br /><br />I've not got my Journal yet, so I'll be interested to read about that in a bit more detail!</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664988#p664988" class="postlink" target="_blank">PaulloDEC</a> wrote:</cite>It's funny, one of the biggest things I've noticed while making the timeline is that the world of FiM is actually shrinking. Events that I initially assumed took place thousands of years apart are being revealed to have been only hundreds, or less. The distance between the founding of Equestria and Luna's banishment, for example. The latest comics shrunk that period <span style="font-style: italic">drastically</span>.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Put together with the Journal, the current comic arc give no indication how long there was between the founding and the banishment, as we learn that shortly after Celestia and Luna took the throne, Starwirl started messing with Time Spells, which made him younger. If anything, it would not surprise me to learn AKR did this intentionally so there is no way to know how long it was between the two. It could be a few years, or a few thousand for all we know.</div>
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<div class="content">That fits with what Celestia and Luna say in the Journal, that they were there less to rule Equestira, but more to be it's protectors.</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664993#p664993" class="postlink" target="_blank">The Doctor</a> wrote:</cite><br />Put together with the Journal, the current comic arc give no indication how long there was between the founding and the banishment, as we learn that shortly after Celestia and Luna took the throne, Starwirl started messing with Time Spells, which made him younger. If anything, it would not surprise me to learn AKR did this intentionally so there is no way to know how long it was between the two. It could be a few years, or a few thousand for all we know.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Well, we know the flashback in the latest comic arc took place shortly before Luna's banishment, and Celestia refers to her "blossoming" kingdom in said flashback. That suggests to me that Equestria wasn't all that old at that point; certainly not 1000 years old.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=664999#p664999" class="postlink" target="_blank">Doctor Wheeze</a> wrote:</cite>There's another bit of history that we've gotten a pretty detailed account of on the show: the history of the Wonderbolts! Twilight's lecture from the beginning of that episode is probably the most important part:<br /><br />1. After Luna was banished, they formed the EUP. This is just speculation, but it kind of implies to me that the military prior to this existed but was still split between the three tribes.<br />2. They called it "the first Celestial year of peace".<br />3. The Wonderbolts were formed by General Firefly one year after Luna was banished.<br />4. Presumably, this celebration would go on to become the Summer Sun Celebration.<br /><br />There's a bunch of other details in the episode, depending on how granular you want to get with this.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Ooh, this is all good stuff! I'll definitely add in the formation of the E.U.P Guard and the Wonderbolts.</div>
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<div class="content">Just wanted to say that I love this kind of thing. This type of fannish overthinking is my greatest weakness. <br /><br />I'd suggest adding more historical figures to the timeline, even if you end up having to put ??? in the years box. Figures like Commander Easy Glider and their accomplishments should help fill out the 1000-0 BF timeframe. <br /><br />Things you could add:<br /><ul><li>Figures and events from <a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4159" class="postlink" target="_blank">the history of the Wonderbolts</a></li><li>Something about the ancient ruler mentioned in Hearts and Hooves day </li><li>A mention of cutie pox and the Paleo-Pony Period </li><li>A mention of the "hundreds of years" reference in regard to Ponyville, even if it's just a footnote, to put your "four core and seven seeds ago" placement into context </li><li>A collective acknowledgment from everybody in this thread that this project is is simultaneously completely silly and completely awesome <img src="./images/smilies/twiI.png" alt=":-I" title=":-I" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> </li></ul></div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=665005#p665005" class="postlink" target="_blank">PaulloDEC</a> wrote:</cite><br />Well, we know the flashback in the latest comic arc took place shortly before Luna's banishment, and Celestia refers to her "blossoming" kingdom in said flashback. That suggests to me that Equestria wasn't all that old at that point; certainly not 1000 years old.<br /><br />I still think there is no way to know how long they were in power prior to Discord showing up.<br /></div></blockquote><br /><br />I think she was referring to the new Kingdom after the defeat of Discord. Return of Harmony would indicate that Discord wasn't just a villain who showed up, he took over. He was able to, for a time, depose Celestia and Luna. They had to retake their kingdom.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=665177#p665177" class="postlink" target="_blank">drunkill</a> wrote:</cite>I would just like to point out that Before Friendship and After Friendship are amazing terms for dating a civilization. Far better than BBY (<a href="http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/0_BBY" class="postlink" target="_blank">Before Battle of Yavin IV</a>) for the Starwars universe.<br /><br /> <img src="./images/smilies/celmmmmf.png" alt=":gotcha:" title="teehee" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> 1 AF <br /> <img src="./images/smilies/dingdingding.png" alt=":-/" title="welp" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /></div></blockquote><br /><br />Why is it after the Battle of Yavin, and not the Battle of Endor?</div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=665240#p665240" class="postlink" target="_blank">PictishBeast</a> wrote:</cite><ul><li>A collective acknowledgment from everybody in this thread that this project is is simultaneously completely silly and completely awesome <img src="./images/smilies/twiI.png" alt=":-I" title=":-I" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> </li></ul></div></blockquote><br /><br />Hear hear.<br /><br />I think there's one thing we can say for sure: nobody on the writing staff has put anything together with anything like the consistency or attention to detail as in this; they're studiously making everything as vague as they can possibly get away with. And hilariously, it's actually more or less working—no major irreconcilable problems yet! <img src="./images/smilies/awesomecheer.png" alt=":iamapony:" title="The 80s were awesome." class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /></div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=665240#p665240" class="postlink" target="_blank">PictishBeast</a> wrote:</cite>Just wanted to say that I love this kind of thing. This type of fannish overthinking is my greatest weakness. <br /><br />I'd suggest adding more historical figures to the timeline, even if you end up having to put ??? in the years box. Figures like Commander Easy Glider and their accomplishments should help fill out the 1000-0 BF timeframe. <br /><br />Things you could add:<br /><ul><li>Figures and events from <a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4159" class="postlink" target="_blank">the history of the Wonderbolts</a></li><li>Something about the ancient ruler mentioned in Hearts and Hooves day </li><li>A mention of cutie pox and the Paleo-Pony Period </li><li>A mention of the "hundreds of years" reference in regard to Ponyville, even if it's just a footnote, to put your "four core and seven seeds ago" placement into context </li><li>A collective acknowledgment from everybody in this thread that this project is is simultaneously completely silly and completely awesome <img src="./images/smilies/twiI.png" alt=":-I" title=":-I" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /> </li></ul></div></blockquote><br /><br />Agree on it being silly, but I think the funnest discussion on FiM I ever had was a debate on what kind of economy would result from the caste and cutie mark systems, so I'm hardly one to talk.<br /><br />That said seeing as it's a timeline I think it should be limited to stuff that can be somewhat pinned down by info from official material.<br /><br />Edit: Minor point, but maybe it would be best to move the formation of the E.U.P. to below Luna's banishment?<br /><br />Edit2: The "four core and seven seeds" quote was penned in Season 4, so that would probably make it 83-85 years before the start of the show, depending on if you think Princess Twilight Sparkle was exactly one year after the show start.</div>
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<div class="content">I feel one of the biggest issues in this timeline project to face, is the differences between writers, and if there is any writer whose lines would hold more "canon" than the other, should a contradiction arise.<br /><br /><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=665253#p665253" class="postlink" target="_blank">The Doctor</a> wrote:</cite>Why is it after the Battle of Yavin, and not the Battle of Endor?</div></blockquote><br /><br />Perhaps because that was the first major rebel victory against the Empire? My question is why didn't they just blow up the planet between them and the rebel base, so they didn't have to wait. <img src="./images/smilies/twiI.png" alt=":-I" title=":-I" class="reimg" onload="reimg(this);" onerror="reimg(this);" /></div>
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<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=665611#p665611" class="postlink" target="_blank">ShieldedDiamond</a> wrote:</cite>I feel one of the biggest issues in this timeline project to face, is the differences between writers, and if there is any writer whose lines would hold more "canon" than the other, should a contradiction arise.</div></blockquote><br />I doubt there'll ever be contradictions in the show. Given the review process each episode goes through, as well as FiM's normal way of never revealing anything unless necessary, I think the show will always be consistent to itself. One rogue writer getting past Meghan McCarthy and the Hasbro Studios folks seems highly unlikely.</div>
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<p class="author"><img src="./styles/shine/imageset/icon_post_target.gif" width="11" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" />by <strong>ShieldedDiamond</strong> <a href="search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=ShieldedDiamond&sd=a&t=5120&sf=msgonly">(?)</a> » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:17 pm</p>
<div class="content"><blockquote><div><cite><a href="http://www.roundstable.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=665631#p665631" class="postlink" target="_blank">Doctor Wheeze</a> wrote:</cite>I would say that the Granny Smith/Winter Wrap-Up issue is a bit of a contradiction, but as I said you can handwave that away by assuming Twilight was talking about earth ponies in general.</div></blockquote><br /><br />Yeah, I'm talking about stuff like this. Really minor stuff that would be forgettable, but would be important in a timeline.</div>
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