S04E22: Testing Testing 1, 2, 3

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Re: S04E22: Testing Testing 1, 2, 3

Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:04 am

One of the best moments of this episode is about 1/2 second long. It's in the perfectly executed timing when Rainbow rocks her stool for the 3rd time, and then the camera zips up to... to this... good lord, this face:
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Look at that face. :lol: This is the exact same face that says "We've found it, the lost city of El Dorado! A city made of pure gold!". It's priceless.


Also I gotta admit I was almost tearing up at the end watching the whole town pitch in to help Rainbow with her test. The entire montage with the slowly building music and increasingly elaborate displays is just so warm and fuzzy and hhhhnnnggggggg

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:05 am

Highbrow Dash wrote:Notice Twilight seems surprised after teleporting herself and Dash into the library. I like to think it was an unintentional teleport like back in season 1, she had to get started right away and she just couldn't help it :v:

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Nice try, but nope, no surprise.

EDIT: While we're on faces, I'm partial to this face when Twi gets horned:

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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:11 am

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Nice try, but nope, no surprise.


Aw, that's what I get for watching at a shitty quality :-I
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:22 am

When Big Mac says his "Eeyup" after Filthy Rich shows him the case, you can hear Rainbow saying it in her voice (imitating Big Mac) as well. That's a nice touch.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:12 am

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:-I : Hitting your butt that hard... what a beating. :ponder:

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Opal is appropriately tired of this shit.

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Obligatory cute Fluts :allears: of the week
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:24 am

That was so great! :awesomedash: :-/ I really had no idea what to expect coming into the episode, but a Rainbow/Twilight study buddy episode? Oh god yes

Also, I'm pretty sure I saw Pinkie do this Image during her rap
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:40 am

I just realized that this episode finally gives an explanation as to why RD dropped out of flight school. I know that feeling of seeming to be stupider than everyone else. Makes me want to quit things, too. :fluttersmith:
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:44 am

The 4:3 aspect ratio of the music video is the one little detail that really puts me over the edge for some reason. :lol:

I'm now imagining animators hard at work, watching "Don't Copy that Floppy" and "2 Legit 2 Quit" hundreds, if not thousands of times over, painstakingly recreating each dance move in pony form. It's wonderful.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:51 am

Tailspin wrote:Wow, that was a pretty good episode. :starity:

still my birthday... can I be a temporary mod and edit all of Tailspin's posts in previous season 4 episode threads to read exactly like that one? :v:
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Postby Juniper Phoenix (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:07 am

I like how Rarity was playing Luna near the end of the episode. :squintyjack:
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Postby Mir (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:15 am

Ha! I just noticed that the cold opening foreshadows Rainbow's flying observation skills. look at all those ways she mentions she knew Twilight was coming.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:00 am

Mir wrote:Ha! I just noticed that the cold opening foreshadows Rainbow's flying observation skills. look at all those ways she mentions she knew Twilight was coming.


That's another cutesy, Season one-ish thing about this episode. It thematically spells everything out prior to explaining the plot in words. It seems super brain-dead obvious next time you watch it and notice the foreshadowing, and some people even catch it the first time, but it also helps you subconsciously understand the theme of the episode your first time around.
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Postby reidransom (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:04 am

Durandal wrote:The 4:3 aspect ratio of the music video is the one little detail that really puts me over the edge for some reason. :lol:


Ya, that was a great little touch. Really added to the late 80s early 90s sort of feel it had.

A good episode overall.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:05 am

Aha, Rainbow Dash drew Twilight as the center fold... I'm not that tall...

Pinkie's rap...

G1 name drops which probably said their names more then G1 ever did...

World building...

Finally disproves the theory that the Wonder Bolts are nothing more then an aerial sports performance team...

Applejack had a learning method that was not applicable for the situation. Her method was hooves-on training with years of experience...

Also, interesting note, Twilight said this was the newly formed Wonder Bolts reverses... I wonder why they waited until recently to make this back-up section? Are they expecting trouble in the near future?
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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:11 am

OK, I was down on the concept of this episode at first but this was pretty legit hilarious and I enjoyed it a lot. I even liked Pinkie's rapping sequence. I still felt this episode had awkward moments that probably keep it from being an absolute top tier episode for me, but still, say, one of the better ones of this season.
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Postby Chaos Sonic (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:37 am

kefkafloyd wrote:Twilight has archive copies and editing copies, just like any professor. :twiright:

I'm more wondering why her history book has a centerfold. :-I

Most of my points have been brought up already, but damn, those rewind sections were perfect. Not just the vwipvwipvwip sounds, but the visual noise, the slight warping between the noise lines, the slight hitch and momentary slo-mo when switching the "tape feeding direction"; all added together to be just right. :allears:
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Postby Star Platinum (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:10 am

:flutterunsmith: I, Princess Celestia, hereby banish you, Princess Luna, to the moon.
:whine: Nooooo!

This was the best and most adorable episode in a while, and one of those episodes that make you go :starity: "that was never 22 minutes just now!" by the sheer amount of content they manage to cram in while still maintaining a perfect pacing. I really liked the way they started with just Twilight and Rainbow, and then gradually started bringing in everypony else. It felt like natural progression and not like they had the full cast in just for the sake of having them like in some episodes this season. The different teaching methods were executed flawlessly, especially Fluttershy's play was adorable. I didn't love Pinkie's rap but it wasn't too terrible, and otherwise Pinks was well in character. Applejack's unabashed "I got nothin'" :twasnothin: attitude had me rolling.

Rainbow Dash admitting defeat was really heartbreaking. Thinking she's too dumb to learn anything, twisting everything Twilight says to berate herself... it hit a bit too close to home, because that was basically me back in middle school. :fluttersmith: The resolution felt the slightest bit shaky because I'm not sure learning quite works the same way as observation, but I can forgive that because ponies are so darn cute in all those costumes and because of the way they got the ENTIRE TOWN to help Rainbow, not just her closest friends. :flutterunsmith:
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Postby Gnot Syndrome (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:48 am

Goddamn, I can't even say anything about this episode that hasn't already been said. Even more so than usual. I just keep scrolling through posts going "eep, that!.... and that!... aaaah that! :amazing:" I don't know if I can call it my favorite just yet, but it's waaaay up there already. It's just... the smooth callbacks, the jokes, the dialogue, the moral, the animation, the faces...

On top of all that, I'm just really really glad they managed to bring Twilight back. :excite:

Also, I was setting myself up to be horrified by the rap scene, but I honestly don't know why I do that with this show anymore.

e: And also, I'm glad there's no new episode next weekend, 'cause it means I can just rewatch this one over and over instead!
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Postby MLPMan (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:04 am

I'll be honest, I wasn't feeling the past few episodes. However, this amazing little episode more than made up for that. Which is good too because I pretty much had the same initial reaction as everyone else here when I read the synopsis, but I'm glad to be proven wrong.

Anyway few things I enjoyed:

1) Happy to see Twilight use her wings.
2) Twilight and Rainbow Dash getting some airtime together (Something I've been wanting to see).
3) I have to agree with everyone, that ending was pretty cool with all the townspeople coming together to help Rainbow Dash. (Although, I can't help but wonder if a few only did it because Princess Twilight requested it =P)
4) I enjoyed Pinkie's rap? I wasn't lurking/missed out on previews this week so thankfully I was able to be presently surprised for this one.
(Hey, I enjoyed the in your face gag :pinkieshrug:)


Great episode 10/10 from me =)

Edit: Switched 3 with 4 because Pinkie smilie ruined my list format :-/
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:48 am

MLPMan wrote:Edit: Switched 3 with 4 because Pinkie smilie ruined my list format :-/


Twilight would be proud :gotcha:



Oh hey, you know what else this episode did for me? It made me interested in the Wonderbolts again. :-I
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:56 am

I have to say, I was never actually upset or bored with the Wonderbolts overall. Sure, I thought Spitfire was being fairly nasty back in Rainbow Falls, but that was her problem.


The same goes for Rainbow Dash's progress in joining the Wonderbolts. The way it's been spread out over the entire series (from her idolization of them at the beginning, to getting to meet them in Sonic Rainboom and The Best Night Ever, actually starting the process of joining in Wonderbolts Academy, then today's episode) feels like it's been set up far better than, say, the way Twilight suddenly became a princess last season. Now all the show has to do is follow through on this sometime in seasons 5 or 6.
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Postby PictishBeast (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:34 pm

Gnot Syndrome wrote:On top of all that, I'm just really really glad they managed to bring Twilight back.


Yeah, I really enjoy watching this nerdy pony who geeks out about studying and is kind of oblivious to others when she's in the zone. Where have they been hiding her? :-I

Agree with Star Platinum that Dash turning all of Twilight's compliments around to become insults was great. I also liked how quickly she went "yeah, I always knew I was brilliant" at the end. It's very in-character for Dash to whipsaw from insecurity to overconfidence.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:21 pm

reidransom wrote:
Ya, that was a great little touch. Really added to the late 80s early 90s sort of feel it had.

A good episode overall.

The one thing I noticed (I might be full of shit) as a sound dude was, suddenly, horrible VHS sound bitrate on the rap. Utterly amazing.

"Pinkie! Stop rapping!" :-/
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:02 pm

I wonder how they did that scene. I'd like to think that, instead of putting it through a bunch of audio and video filters, they just rendered it in 4:3, hooked it up to a junky old VCR and recorded it to tape, then played it back through a digital converter connected to one of their computers.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:13 pm

I think they just put it through a filter on the software.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:53 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I think they just put it through a filter on the software.

Well, that's not the fun way to do it. :rainbert:
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:57 pm

Oh my god, Fizzbuzz's avatar :awesomedash:

Fluttershy has had so many outfits these season :v:
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Postby MasterOfKnees (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:09 pm

Just going to chime in shortly on this one: This was a pretty brilliant episode. First off, it reminded me a lot of a season 1 episode, it just cut straight to the chase with a rather simple plot, and it had everypony involved in a way that really distinguishes each character from each other, it's kind of like if we got to know them all over again. Second, I admire the subject and moral they bring up with this. I myself identify with Rainbow A TON in this episode, I've never been good at learning the traditional way. It's such a great lesson to show everybody learns differently, and it's something I've found that few people realize. It's also why I think the way things are being taught in elementary school is totally bullocks, but that's another subject.

A great, fun, simple and sweet episode, the way I like my pony best.
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Postby Durandal (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:20 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I think they just put it through a filter on the software.


You underestimate the power of Jayson Thiessen's Basement :excellent:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:21 pm

I love that shot of Twi in the air, right hand side, looking down. :-I

And magenta eyes for Vinyl are confirmed. Red eyes, as had been speculated, would have been cool too. :awesomedash:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:23 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:And magenta eyes for Vinyl are confirmed. Red eyes, as had been speculated, would have been cool too. :awesomedash:

Didn't we see her with magenta eyes for a single frame in ACW? I know they somehow got confirmed as magenta around that time, though much of the fandom still continues to give her red eyes to this day.
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:26 pm

PonyHag714 wrote:I love that shot of Twi in the air, right hand side, looking down. :-I

And magenta eyes for Vinyl are confirmed. Red eyes, as had been speculated, would have been cool too. :awesomedash:


Wasn't this confirmed way back at the the Season 2 finale?

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I also seem to remember one of the show staff replying to a comment asking what color her eyes were, and they said "Like Rainbow Dash's."
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Postby Wonkadoo (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:30 pm

I suppose I should say something about this episode. :-/

I got nothing. Here's Fluttershy jumping up and down: :fluttercite:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:33 pm

We did have the shot in ACW2, but it was from a distance and left some room for doubt. The shot we had yesterday was good and clear, and no question about her eye color.

Thanks for mentioning the staff member comment, I wasn't aware of that. :ponder:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:53 pm

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:gotcha: It's the butterfly migration all over again!
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:55 pm

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Bottom pic's got the night palette, but Pantone enthusiasts can go by the EqG pic for maximum accuracy. Her eyes are definitely the same as Rainbow's (above), even down to the lashes.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:58 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Didn't we see her with magenta eyes for a single frame in ACW? I know they somehow got confirmed as magenta around that time, though much of the fandom still continues to give her red eyes to this day.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! It-- it says I have blue eyes, but I decided I want gray eyes!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:59 pm

To be fair, EqG is not the most reliable source from which to sample colors. A lot of colors, mainly skin tones, changed between FiM and EqG.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:59 pm

Also, nothing Rarity wore looked silly.

They looked awesome.

Rarity is awesome at everything.

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