S07E14: Fame and Misfortune

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S07E14: Fame and Misfortune

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:55 pm

Twilight Sparkle's publishing of the friendship journal has unintended consequences when ponies start to argue over who wrote the best lessons.


This thread is for discussion of the episode. This episode airs at 11:30 Eastern / 8:30 Pacific on Saturday, August 12!

Official preview clips and images are okay to post, as is speculation about the episode.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:09 pm

:v: "Oh cool beans, we're finally doing a clip show."
:twonk: "It's not a clip show!!!"
:effort: "Well I'm treating it as one, I don't feel like learning any lines this week."
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:09 pm

Only one episode? There's no way we'll go through the remaining 13 before the movie comes out :ohdear:

This one sounds like fun though!
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but why would you post such a thing??
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:37 am

I'll be disappointed if there's not a reference to Lesson Zero. :twonk: Image
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:48 am

Lesson Zero was from before they started keeping the Friendship Journal.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:08 am

Oopsie :gotcha:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:57 pm

Gonna be good. I hope Starlight saves the day.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:45 am

I am going to miss this due to BronyCon (it'll literally be airing right while I'm running one of the panel rooms), so it's gonna be interesting listening to reactions and chatter in passing from other folks here.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:54 pm

Yaaaaaas, more ponies
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Postby Applepie (?) » Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:47 pm

One day to go. Good to be back. :yay:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 2:38 am

So, this is the episode written by M.A. Larson that he doesn't sound too thrilled about.

https://www.equestriadaily.com/2017/07/ ... oming.html

Sounds like it might have been some old script of his that's been retooled and changed to work now.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:22 am

I looked at the time and thought I was a day behind on the new episode. Then I realized it's not Saturday afternoon, it midnight after Friday.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:21 am

Saving the world multiple times - be famous for a publication of private information.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 1:22 pm

Most people want to know the secret life of their heroes.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:42 pm

how well do you remember Season 4, the episode

also nice little early mention of the Day Camp. that will be the focus of a future S7 ep.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:48 pm

Oh my God "why does Fluttershy keep learning the same lesson over and over?" :lol:

Also gonna need that Rarity face as a smiley.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:49 pm

that Rarity face (you know the one) was the most pony face of this season so far.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:51 pm

Applejack being the popular one is really breaking my suspension of disbelief here.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:56 pm

I REALLY hope it was intentional that they aired this during Bronycon.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:01 pm

VERY META/10

Also the fact Spike wasn't even mentioned has to be a joke in and of itself, doesn't it?
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:01 pm

If had had to summarize the episode in a few words it would be: fandom critique the episode :-I
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:04 pm

Well, this was different. It certainly took a big poke at the fandom.

I liked seeing Fluttershy being assertive once more, but I wish Spike had been in it. A fourth wall scene with him at the end would have been gold. :here:
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Postby drunkill (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:06 pm

Very interesting they bring back toola roola for this role. Also, kid pony with a friend, part of a new main cast of a spinoff?

No clue, but an interesting thought.

Octavia wrote:I REALLY hope it was intentional that they aired this during Bronycon.



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So... how big is the Q&A panel going to be today after this has come out?
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:06 pm

Spike sure did get a realistic looking Starlight costume for this episode.

Also them leaving everyone outside to just continue arguing with no conclusion might be the most accurate thing in this episode
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:11 pm

Also we now know the plot of Daring Done.

AK Yearling sues Rainbow Dash for outing her as Daring Do
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:13 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Also we now know the plot of Daring Done.

Am Yearling sues Rainbow Dash for outing her as Daring Do

was thinking this might actually connect now. would be cool if it did.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:15 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Spike sure did get a realistic looking Starlight costume for this episode.

Also them leaving everyone outside to just continue arguing with no conclusion might be the most accurate thing in this episode



....wow.


They probably did just replace Spike with Starlight.....
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:16 pm

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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:17 pm

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This episode is gonna be a fucking goldmine
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Postby VGAddict (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:23 pm

Is Spike irrelevant?
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:24 pm

I didn't mind the overt poking fun at that low, low rung of the fandom (viz. the Youtube critics), but I find that episodes with a lot of ponies behaving like jerks throughout are not really all that enjoyable to me.

Also, poor Rarity. :cry:
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:27 pm

One of the highlights was Toola Roola.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:33 pm

Not really feeling this episode. They already made a real fun and positive episode picking at aspects of the fandom with "Slice of Life". Did they really need to make another episode focusing only on the negative?
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:38 pm

for those unaware, Larson was on an interview with some fan pony podcast a couple months ago and mentioned he was on one more S7 episode, this one. He distanced himself from the episode right away:

(42:30 in)

I was surprised thus to see a full written by credit.... and now these tweets:

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Interesting to have the credited writer for the episode come out against said episode's tone and demeanor.
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:41 pm

How ironic that my favorite Larson episode is the one he hates.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:02 pm

VGAddict wrote:Is Spike irrelevant?



:yay: We're not perfect ... we're a work in progress! :excite:

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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:49 pm

Ha. Okay, not the best episode, but I loved the meta aspect of it. I can understand how the ep can feel mean-spirited, but I think it's more a "fans can be overzealous" lesson they're going with.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:27 pm

On one hand, meta episodes are inevitably going to be middling quality, since you're not pushing the show forward in any way.

On the other hand, it seems like people elsewhere getting really mad at the show making fun of them were already looking for reasons to hate every episode anyway.

Fortunately, last episode was really good, and next one has potential to be good as well, so we can probably just let this one rest on its own, unlike "Slice of Life" being followed by "Princess Spike."
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Postby adiwan (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:34 pm

After seeing the episode a second time I realized that it's not only a commentary about the fans.
This can also be seen as a jab towards authors who react to fans. They take the fan reaction as serious as the fans do towards the authors. Twilight has problems that her book isn't understood. Fluttershy can't handle the negative comments. Rarity can't take the unpopularity. Applejack can't handle the popularity. Rainbow Dash can't handle the attention. Pinkie Pie can't handle being seen as a one-trick-pony.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:41 pm

^^ That's a fair point.
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