S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

Episode, movie, and comic book discussion threads are kept here once they have been released.

Moderators: Perrydotto, Dexanth, Venusy, Wayoshi

Re: S04E25-26: Twilight's Kingdom

Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:12 pm

VoidChicken wrote:Tirek found out about Cadance from a toy store in Manehatten. They were sold out of Princess Twilight.

If he learned about ponies from toy stores then I wonder if he knew who Rarity or Applejack were at all.
Image
Fizzbuzz
User avatar
Stare Masters
Joined: Mar 02, 2013
Location: TN
Gender: Male

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:13 pm

A part of me is scared where the show will go from here...I don't know why, but big changes in tv shows like this has always made me feel uncomfortable and sad.
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Ransom (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:15 pm

He learned about the Mane 6 from Discord. Honestly probably didn't know or care about them beyond being tools and food for consumption.

Part of me likes to imagine Celestia had a final contingency plan, either to bargain with all the other beings in Tartarus or somehow signal Scorpan.
Ransom
User avatar
Joined: Mar 24, 2012
Gender: Male

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:15 pm

@Robot: Humans naturally fear change, after all change is uncertain & scary. But remember, it's also one of life's constants. Don't fear change. Embrace it! :evil:
Image
Sunset Shimmer is BEST Hu-Mane!!
SoundMonkey44
User avatar
Ain't Got No Sense, No Sense At All.
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: The South West
Gender: Male

Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:17 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:A part of me is scared where the show will go from here...I don't know why, but big changes in tv shows like this has always made me feel uncomfortable and sad.

That is how I felt last year after MMC. This change isn't so big (Twilight was already a princess, this episode is just where everyone other than Ponyville's kids started to seriously acknowledge it), though, as it's mostly just the destruction of the library and the creation of that new castle.
Image
Fizzbuzz
User avatar
Stare Masters
Joined: Mar 02, 2013
Location: TN
Gender: Male

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 5:19 pm

Yeah, I'm sure that I'll have nothing to fear...I think these writers can handle just about any story.
:plonk: Image :)
ROBOT B9
User avatar
Round and round and round she goes, where she'll stop, nobody knows :pinkietoot:
Semper Pie
Joined: Mar 27, 2012
Location: Albir, Spain
Gender: Male

Postby Frith (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 6:04 pm

Ok now that more important things are out of the way I'll try to get back my interest in MLP.

I just watched the season finale and my first impressions are that it was the perfect season finale; the episode was really epic like season finales always should be. I couldn't concentrate much in the themes of the episode so I need to watch the episode again before I can write more about it.
Frith
User avatar
Princesses of Soul
Joined: Jun 21, 2012
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Gender: Male

Postby Jill (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 6:37 pm

Just watched.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


That is all. :ponydrugs:
Image

a discord for close-knit game streamers, developers, and friends: https://discord.gg/EybpuPG
Jill
User avatar
Special Flowers
Joined: Oct 05, 2011
Gender: Female

Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 6:54 pm

Upon my first rewatch, I'm struck by the pathos of the de-magicked princesses. A strong scene with princesses looking vulnerable and weary.

Noteworthy is the significance of meeting foreign dignitaries in the Crystal Empire. Perhaps the Crystal Empire is a more neutral ground to meet rather than at the center of Equestrian power, Canterlot? Especially if the negotiations are sensitive?
In omnibus requiem quaesivi, et nusquam inveni nisi in angulo cum libro
Niels Olof
User avatar
Wide-ruled paper is for foals.
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Nov 20, 2013
Location: Denmark
Gender: Male

Postby Femto (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:01 pm

Grim wrote:Just watched.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!


That is all. :ponydrugs:


Fabulous super saiyan ponies pretty much made my day, to be honest. That and sneaking Flash "Brad" Sentry a cameo. :gotcha:

E: the season 5 season finale will be against the toy manufacturers for attempting to destroy in order to sell new toys.
:applejargh: "This is for Optimus Prime you sons of bitches!"
Last edited by Femto on Sun May 11, 2014 7:12 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Femto
User avatar
The friendship of birds is an insult to me. I would have them all in high schools.
Stare Masters
Joined: May 02, 2011
Location: Some say Toronto. Others, Canada.
Gender: Male

Postby Dragongem (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:04 pm

Venusy wrote:Every S5 episode features a previously beloved location being permanently destroyed. Hasbro still refuses to sell playsets of the replacements.


RIP Sofa and Quill Store :saddershy:
Dragongem
User avatar
Ah, yes, another exquisite post by Dragongem. I can just taste the oaky flavor.
Semper Pie
Joined: Jul 02, 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Gender: Male

Postby Dragongem (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:06 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:A part of me is scared where the show will go from here...I don't know why, but big changes in tv shows like this has always made me feel uncomfortable and sad.


Yeah, I think it's a fair feeling to have. I was pretty happy with what they did in season 4 with Twilight so I've kinda given the show an implicit trust that it'll turn out well.

Edit: Oops Doublepost
Dragongem
User avatar
Ah, yes, another exquisite post by Dragongem. I can just taste the oaky flavor.
Semper Pie
Joined: Jul 02, 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Gender: Male

Postby Kronos (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:25 pm

Wow.

Is this what it felt like to Mass Effect fans when they learned the only thing different about the original three endings was the color of the explosion?

Because I am so utterly disappointed at that ending. After what was looking like the best plot the show's ever done, they do that!?

Ironic that a discussion topic at dinner last night for my family was shows that had terrible/odd endings, because this feels like it could have been included.
ImageImageImageImageImageImage
Kronos
User avatar
Part-time Sunset Shimmer supporter
Scootaloo's Pro Scooters
Joined: Mar 03, 2012
Gender: Male

Postby Ransom (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:27 pm

Niels Olof wrote:Upon my first rewatch, I'm struck by the pathos of the de-magicked princesses. A strong scene with princesses looking vulnerable and weary.

Noteworthy is the significance of meeting foreign dignitaries in the Crystal Empire. Perhaps the Crystal Empire is a more neutral ground to meet rather than at the center of Equestrian power, Canterlot? Especially if the negotiations are sensitive?


It's also surrounded by mountains and snow, pretty isolated, albeit out of the way for being that far north.
Ransom
User avatar
Joined: Mar 24, 2012
Gender: Male

Postby Mordja (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:51 pm

I don't understand why everyone keeps comparing the fight scene to DBZ.

I mean, the whole battle wrapped up over the course of a couple of minutes, not a couple of months.
Image
Mordja
User avatar
reality: a man falls through the earth and into parisian catacombs. taking a torch from the wall he spies row upon row of skeletons. grasping the nearest by the shoulders, he shakes it madly, yelling "my nigga have u tried mlp"
Rainbow Racers
Joined: Apr 09, 2011
Location: Toronto

Postby Orange Fluffy Sheep (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:55 pm

This episode did nothing wrong except needlessly blowing up the library and if it didn't just replace it with little more than a shocked gasp as reaction to its loss I wouldn't be so mad at this episode.

I used a Star Trek analogy in PPPP and I'll use one here: It's like if the Enterprise got blown up and all Picard did was stare shocked for a few seconds and the crew got a fancy new ship at the end of the episode like it's all okay. The Excelsior Blue or whatever has better shields and probes that actually scan shit more than once every two seasons so apparently it's totally fine the hub for every previous adventure is gone forever with barely any comment!

The stakes didn't need to make Twilight homeless for them to matter. Every pony ever but her was rendered powerless and the enemy was one step away from complete domination.

I mean, couldn't Castle Playset Deluxe have grown from the library? Or give the characters some time to lament its loss meaningfully? Did the library have to be exploded completely for Castle Playset Deluxe to come into play? Did the castle have to be so vast and formal - and cold? It doesn't feel like living quarters, where friends gather to hang out. Library had a lot of little touches - the horse head statue on the table, that 2nd floor loft without a wall separating it from the main lobby, Spike always coming from offscreen with refreshments - that made it feel like an actual place where people live and hang out. It had character to it. Fuck giant halls and six thrones, show me the place where Twilight lazily reads a book on an afternoon, or where Pinkie holds an impromptu party. I don't doubt Castle Playset Deluxe has spots for this that we'll see in S5, but from what we've seen it's more Versailles than a home. It looks fancy as hell, but you're shitting in the stairwells because it's little more than a ceremonial hall not meant to be lived in. Sure, Twilight got a place that's fancy and befitting a princess, but there wasn't a need to get rid of home for it.

tl;dr We better get that weird horse-head statue back or Hasbro is going to get so many strongly-worded letters. :twonk:
Orange Fluffy Sheep
User avatar
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Feb 17, 2011
Gender: Male

Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:56 pm

Niels Olof wrote:Upon my first rewatch, I'm struck by the pathos of the de-magicked princesses. A strong scene with princesses looking vulnerable and weary.

Noteworthy is the significance of meeting foreign dignitaries in the Crystal Empire. Perhaps the Crystal Empire is a more neutral ground to meet rather than at the center of Equestrian power, Canterlot? Especially if the negotiations are sensitive?


Lets keep in mind that these are the same dignitaries from the Equestria games in the episode right before this. They were already in town.
The Doctor
User avatar
Turner of all things timey wimey
Celestia's Champions
Joined: May 05, 2011
Location: Time & Space
Gender: Male

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 7:59 pm

So Kronos, uh, what were you expecting? :rariwhat:
Wayoshi
User avatar
Paper Fluttershy
Stare Masters
Joined: Oct 26, 2011
Location: Boston, MA
Gender: Male

Postby Dragongem (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 8:20 pm

Mordja wrote:I don't understand why everyone keeps comparing the fight scene to DBZ.

I mean, the whole battle wrapped up over the course of a couple of minutes, not a couple of months.


:twismug: Tirek, I have been holding back this whole time! Prepare to witness my true power!

:twonk: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

(Announcer): What amazing power will Twilight reveal to Tirek? Stay tuned for Season 5: This time we're on Namek in Canterlot!
Dragongem
User avatar
Ah, yes, another exquisite post by Dragongem. I can just taste the oaky flavor.
Semper Pie
Joined: Jul 02, 2011
Location: Chicago, IL
Gender: Male

Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 8:46 pm

Twilight's collection of books has to be addressed somehow in the upcoming season, I think. :twiright:

We do have the old castle and its library. I expect she'll transfer books from there, and there must be at least a few volumes in the old castle that she had copies of in Golden Oaks as well. :sheepish:
Last edited by PonyHag714 on Sun May 11, 2014 8:59 pm, edited 1 time in total.
:party: A pony, a plan, a canal...Panamare!
PonyHag714
User avatar
You know my name.
Joined: Mar 18, 2013
Location: Oromareocto, Canterda
Gender: Male

Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 8:55 pm

Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote:This episode did nothing wrong except needlessly blowing up the library and if it didn't just replace it with little more than a shocked gasp as reaction to its loss I wouldn't be so mad at this episode.

I used a Star Trek analogy in PPPP and I'll use one here: It's like if the Enterprise got blown up and all Picard did was stare shocked for a few seconds and the crew got a fancy new ship at the end of the episode like it's all okay. The Excelsior Blue or whatever has better shields and probes that actually scan shit more than once every two seasons so apparently it's totally fine the hub for every previous adventure is gone forever with barely any comment!

The stakes didn't need to make Twilight homeless for them to matter. Every pony ever but her was rendered powerless and the enemy was one step away from complete domination.

I mean, couldn't Castle Playset Deluxe have grown from the library? Or give the characters some time to lament its loss meaningfully? Did the library have to be exploded completely for Castle Playset Deluxe to come into play? Did the castle have to be so vast and formal - and cold? It doesn't feel like living quarters, where friends gather to hang out. Library had a lot of little touches - the horse head statue on the table, that 2nd floor loft without a wall separating it from the main lobby, Spike always coming from offscreen with refreshments - that made it feel like an actual place where people live and hang out. It had character to it. Fuck giant halls and six thrones, show me the place where Twilight lazily reads a book on an afternoon, or where Pinkie holds an impromptu party. I don't doubt Castle Playset Deluxe has spots for this that we'll see in S5, but from what we've seen it's more Versailles than a home. It looks fancy as hell, but you're shitting in the stairwells because it's little more than a ceremonial hall not meant to be lived in. Sure, Twilight got a place that's fancy and befitting a princess, but there wasn't a need to get rid of home for it.

tl;dr We better get that weird horse-head statue back or Hasbro is going to get so many strongly-worded letters. :twonk:


This says it much better than I could have :-P It's the only Hasbro mandate that I feel has hurt the show, they got rid of the show's most iconic location because she's a pretty princess and a pretty princess' got to have a pretty crystal castle.
Image
Highbrow Dash
User avatar
but why would you post such a thing??
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Oct 15, 2011
Location: Spain
Gender: Male

Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 8:59 pm

Orange Fluffy Sheep wrote:
I used a Star Trek analogy in PPPP and I'll use one here: It's like if the Enterprise got blown up and all Picard did was stare shocked for a few seconds and the crew got a fancy new ship at the end of the episode like it's all okay. The Excelsior Blue or whatever has better shields and probes that actually scan shit more than once every two seasons so apparently it's totally fine the hub for every previous adventure is gone forever with barely any comment!



Ummm....

Image

Image

Image

Image

:gotcha:
The Doctor
User avatar
Turner of all things timey wimey
Celestia's Champions
Joined: May 05, 2011
Location: Time & Space
Gender: Male

Postby Big Boss (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 9:01 pm

Something tells me OFSheep didn't like it when they did that either. :smirk:
Big Boss
User avatar
:twonk:
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Feb 14, 2011
Location: Mother Base
Gender: Male

Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 9:13 pm

Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

http://dreamofserenity626.tumblr.com/po ... y-all-land

The storyboarding and animation team keep on killing it with more than their fair share of the storytelling.
Headless Horse
User avatar
The yoke is strictly ornamental
Faithful Students
Joined: May 23, 2011

Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 9:19 pm

Image


:twonk: STEAL THIS, HASBRO!
The Doctor
User avatar
Turner of all things timey wimey
Celestia's Champions
Joined: May 05, 2011
Location: Time & Space
Gender: Male

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 9:19 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Image
Image
Image
Image
Image

http://dreamofserenity626.tumblr.com/po ... y-all-land

The storyboarding and animation team keep on killing it with more than their fair share of the storytelling.



My emotions, why must this show keep reminding me I have them!? :gonkity:
Image
Sunset Shimmer is BEST Hu-Mane!!
SoundMonkey44
User avatar
Ain't Got No Sense, No Sense At All.
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: The South West
Gender: Male

Postby Discord (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 9:38 pm

Discord proudly presents...:excellent:

WORDS about PRINCESSES


This is a casual version of another university essay I wrote (because complete formality is :effort:), dealing with pony princesses around the time of the S4 premiere. I decided not to post it at the time because I wanted to see what the rest of the season would actually do with the princess thing first.

:spoiler: (Which turned out to be a good idea).

I'm fascinated by what Friendship is Magic has done with the whole princess motif. Disney's princess line stands as a dominant figure in young girls media with a lot of different opinions, which makes exploring FiM in relation to it a fairly interesting exercise. I am admittedly informed by only one view of it, but I think that just leaves more room for exploration of the show in relation to the princess motif.

(This view can be found at- http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/magaz ... wanted=all - though I also borrow from the book that expands on this article).

Without further ado- :party:

Part 1- Disney Princess Culture, MMC, and Princess Twilight Sparkle:

Season 4 of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic stands as a brilliant deconstruction and reconstruction of Disney's Princess culture, which has dominated young girls media for over a decade. Through the arc of the show's principle character, Twilight Sparkle, and drawing upon the show's mythos and a season-long downplaying of Twilight's role, the season on a whole is able to dig into a distinct commentary on the nature of princess in modern media, and tries to shift the meaning in a direction that serves the show’s themes, which encourages young girls to express themselves more freely than within the previously narrow and vague confines of trying to be a princess.

Firstly, it is key to understand the full extent of what princess culture. Starting from the late 1990s, Disney decided to tie together the heroines from some of its most popular films in a marketing and merchandising effort, and it was a smash success. The Disney Princess Line became the most dominant force across the landscape of young girls’ media, and other companies adapted to this.
Over time, the centralizing power of the Disney Princess Line embedded certain ideas and themes across into a generation of young girls. Girls everywhere dream of being princesses like their favorite Disney heroines, following in their footsteps. Criticism arose, however, at how the dominance of this brand limited the options of young girls and the media oriented for them.

In Orenstein's book How Cinderella Ate my Daughter: Dispatches from the Frontline of the New Girlie-Girl Culture, she discusses the potentially negative impact that the dominance of the Disney princess line has, and the problematic messages it sends. Three elements that Orenstein discusses in Disney's construction of princesses are heteronormative romance, the obsession with physical appearance and materialism, and the distinct separation of the princesses within marketing:

Among other things, princesses tend to be rather isolated in their singularity. Navigating the new world of friendships is what preschool is all about, yet the Disney Princesses, you will recall, won't even LOOK at one another." (Orenstein, 23) (Referring to how the princesses are all looking in different directions across the Disney princess line)


Princesses may confide in a sympathetic mouse or teacup, but, at least among the best-known stories, they do not have girlfriends. (Orenstein, 23)


Princesses avoid female bonding. Their girls are to be saved by a prince, get married...and be taken care of for the rest of their lives. Their value derives largely from their appearance. They are rabid materialists." (Orenstein, 23)


Orenstein's account rings fairly true, in my book, a few examples notwithstanding. Though many of the princesses themselves are fairly strong characters within their films, they are more simplified in marketing, and many are locked within similar, problematic narratives. Female bonding is also notably absent from a lot of Disney princess films, with mothers frequently being deceased and the films spending most of their time developing romance, villains, and side characters. The Disney princess line has also largely focused on title, materialism and appearance over other aspects of their characters Disney itself seems to have grown cognizant of their own tropes within their films Brave and Frozen, and although these two films counter a number of these trends, the impact of the original Disney princess line can still be felt.

Friendship is Magic is a show that felt the ripples of that from the very beginning. As Faust constructed the show, the legacy of the Disney Princess line influenced a key decision. As Lauren Faust wrote:

"I know "princess" sounds cuter and helps sell more toys, and because of that you were probably forced to keep her as a princess by the powers that be..."

That's what happened. I was told that because of Disney movies, girls assume that Queens are evil (although I only remember 1 evil queen) and Princesses are good. I was also told that the perceived youth of a Princess is preferable to consumers.

She does not have parents that outrank her. I brought the weirdness of that situation to my bosses, but it did not seem to be a continuity concern to them, so I'm letting it alone. I always wanted her to be the highest authority, and so she remains so. And I certainly don't want marriage to be what would escalate her. (Bad messages to girls and what not.)

Sorry I couldn't give you a more satisfying answer. Maybe as the series goes on we can thread something together. I put up a bit of a fight when her title changed, but you win some, you loose some.

http://comments.deviantart.com/4/1603670/1791456540

Not entirely by choice, Friendship is Magic was forced to play a part in princess culture. Subtly, however, Friendship is Magic rebelled traditional molds for the standard princess. Celestia and Luna were the highest power in the land as princesses and distinct as leaders, as opposed to most Disney films, where kings were the highest authority and "princess" and "leader" are frequently divorced concepts. This was to be only the start to FiM's shaping of the princess, however.

In Season 3, Twilight Sparkle earned the title of princess (another subversion of the standard princess narrative), and the show irrevocably changed. In this mandate, FiM would have to engage with themes of the princess more directly if it were to continue to resist the culture and stay true to its feminist core. Megan McCarthy seemed cognizant of this:

Those challenges will include living up to that lofty new title. In MLP‘s Equestria, “princess” is a designation that’s earned, not freely given — and though princesses have specific leadership roles in pony society, being one really means “being a good pony who shares the gifts that they have been given with others,” according to McCarthy. “We’re building a very unique mythology around being a princess,” she continues. “Every little girl wants to be a princess, and not everybody can get to be a princess — but you can live up to the ideals that should come along with being a princess.”
http://family-room.ew.com/2013/01/29/my ... -princess/


Originally there were interpretations of this quote as McCarthy re-enforcing the mandate that every little girl has to want to be a princess. But after Season 4, there's no doubt in my mind that McCarthy was commenting on the power of princess culture, and hinting on the kind of subversive direction they would take with Princess Twilight.

For example, there was this little piece of dialogue from “Princess Twilight Sparkle”:

Rarity: Oh, don't be so modest. It's everypony's dream to someday wear a crown and have their coronation ceremony preserved in stained glass for all to see. [sighs]
Rainbow Dash: I don't know if it's everypony's dream.
Pinkie Pie: Most of my dreams are about frosting! [slurp] Ohohohoho...


This little piece establishes the show's awareness of the ground it is treading, and it's willingness to counteract the dominance of princess culture. Establishing that being a princess is not a thing that every girl really would desire is a powerful little subversion within the premiere.

The rest of the premiere continues on with FiM's previous playing with the concept of princess in a more up-front way. Twilight needs to grow into more of a leader, which she demonstrates in ordering around the guard in part one.

Part two, however, plays with the ideas of the relative importance of the role of princess. Applejack and the other main cast overblow Twilight's position as more important than they, or even Twilight herself, is, dismissing Twilight because Equestria needs its princess. But they come to the realization that their friendship is more important than Twilight's title, which ultimately leads to their successful mission. The narrative works to stress their strength in working together as equals, effectively diminishing the importance of the princess title and highlighting that it is not in and of itself something that gives power or happiness, nor something that is more important than friendship.

All of which works in fairly stark contrast to the vague representations of the role of princess in film, and the isolation that is present across the Disney princess line. The most interesting subversion against princess culture, however, would not appear until the season finale, which draws forward from this point in the premiere into a powerful narrative and meta-commentary on the meaning of princess, and works the concept directly into the show’s central themes.


Part 2: Season 4 and Twilight's Kingdom

Season 4 largely keeps Twilight's princess role a background detail. She receives some extra attention for it, has to do a few royal duties, and has to learn to be a better mentor in "Testing, Testing, 1, 2, 3", but with no focus episodes, Twilight's princess role largely flies under the radar.

What can only be realized in hindsight, however, is how well this ties the premiere with the finale, and how it ultimately serves the show's commentary on princess role. The premiere diminishes the role of princess to an extent, stressing that it is not a title that eclipses the person of Twilight Sparkle, nor her friends and friendships. This diminishing is extended through most of the rest of season 4, a nagging question in many viewers’ minds until we finally see it addressed with the season 4 finale.

Twilight Sparkle herself is unsure about what her role as princess is actually supposed to mean. She hasn't done anything particularly noteworthy with her new title, and all she seems to do is "smile and wave". I particularly like how on-the-nose this bit of dialogue is:

Rarity: Yes, but you get to smile and wave like a princess.
Applejack: How exactly is that different than smilin' and wavin' like not a princess?
Twilight Sparkle: It isn't.


Which extends how not-different princess Twilight really is. All of this leads into the show's major point about a big problem with the role of princess in Disney's princess culture. As Orenstein explains:

It is also worth noting that not all of the ladies (of the Disney princess line) are of royal extraction. Part of the genius of “Princess” is that its meaning is so broadly constructed that it actually has no meaning. Even Tinker Bell was originally a Princess, though her reign didn’t last.


Broadly, the princess has significance as meaning "special", "beautiful," and "good," to young girls and across the cultural landscape, but what a princess does is more ambiguous. Disney's characters may take action, but fairly rarely do they do so using the title of princess itself within the films.

I think that's exactly what the season finale is drawing upon in Twilight's arc; working with the ambiguities of princess role, and how young girls might struggle with its significance and meaning growing up. Twilight accepts the role of princess, but she wants it to mean something significant; she is not merely content with having the role on its own, nor with ignoring and/or rejecting it outright.

The song "You'll Play your Part" lays this all out in a really powerful way that is one of the most significant songs in the show for its target audience. The song speaks to some of the challenges of growing up and trying to find one's purpose, with a particular centre around the whole princess motif:

Twilight Sparkle: But I wonder where I'm going now
What my role is meant to be
I don't know how to travel
To a future that I can't see


The other princesses re-assure Twilight (and the audience) that they will find their own path, that they do matter, and they will find new meaning to the princess title and themselves. It's a really interesting way to grow the princess concept as its target audience is growing, working it as a method for self-discovery as opposed to casting it completely aside, as girls are eventually wont to do.

The finale works its way through, Twilight again displaying how far she's come in a more grand way than in MMC and discovering exactly what it is she wants to do with her life. This bit of dialogue illuminates this arc's ultimate message:

Twilight Sparkle: As princess, I believe I have the power to spread the magic of friendship across Equestria. That is the role I am meant to have in our world! The role I choose to have! But I didn't defeat Tirek on my own – it took all of us to unlock the chest!


Twilight stresses her own choice for her destiny, as a princess and as a person, which resonates with the core of the show in a powerful way. That you yourself ultimately define what the role of princess means for you (if you choose to hang onto that; let us not forget the other characters who's paths are not to be princesses), and your own destiny and purpose in general. It also does all this while keeping in mind the triumph of friendship, encouraging female bonding in a way beyond most Disney media.

Twilight's Kingdom is an excellent conclusion toward the show's themes of self-discovery and choosing your own path that it set out with from the very beginning. It successfully works in the title of princess to its advantage in exploring these themes to more mature levels and growing them up, along with the princess role, with its audience. Through this, FiM expands the power of its subversion, not only toward other girls’ media on a whole, but the monolith of the Disney princess that FiM manipulates toward a clear, positive message for any girl who may be struggling with what a princess is.


With all this said, I have to say :golfclop: to Meghan McCarthy and the entire staff for pulling off Princess Twilight in such an excellent way. It wasn't clear in the middle of the season, but taken as a whole, it was a fantastic exploration of the concept of princess in my mind.
Discord
User avatar
Agents of Chaos
Joined: Dec 11, 2011
Gender: Male

Postby WandereringPony (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 9:55 pm

First off, good ending for S4.


Second off, Discord. Let's really look at this here.

He made painfully sure that despite anything else, Twilight would have the clues she needed and they would NOT forget about the box.

At least at one point, he has a "that didn't go according to plans"...I mean, literally, while Tirek is sucking some poor pony's soul.

If things hadn't worked out to Twilight vs. Tirek, she never has the moment of truth in which she gets her key and becomes an honest-to-goodness Princess that does more than smile and wave- a level of such ceremonial un-importance that Tirek doesn't notice until she's had all the time Discord's little "oopsie" could buy her to get it together that she's actually worth something and the holder of the alicorn powers he seeks.

The moment of truth also means she gives up that alicorn power and beats Tirek with her own powers, thereby making it an unassisted (in terms of the other Princesses carrying her) win and nobody can say "Buuuuut Twilight only was a real princess cause the others gave her their mojo!"

Discord knew that if push came to shove, Fluttershy would make sure his bacon was saved and that the real Tirek-buster was already set to be opened up and #rekt would occur. All he had to do is be the "bad guy" and guide Tirek into doing what needed to be done for Twilight's destiny with a minimal amount of collateral damage- the only mass destruction happens with Tirek vs. Twilight, and that's out in an unpopulated area. And who else would Tirek trust to do it without brute force? In the end, nobody is permanently harmed, Twilight finally gains the power and confidence she needs, and no pony is the wiser for all of Discord's meddling.

Plus, dat apology bouquet for Celestia.
WandereringPony
Joined: Mar 23, 2013
Gender: Male

Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:13 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:[*]The destruction of Twilight's house is a shock because main characters' homes in Ponyville have been inviolate until now. Aside from the (also shocking) decay in MMC, Twilight and the others can always go home, sleep in their own beds, and know that no villain will ever blow down their door to attack them. Obliterating Twilight's home also destroys that feeling of safety and security.

There have been times when Ponyville is broken in a silly way -- Ursa Minor steps on some houses and moustaches are handed out, parasprites eat everything and Pinkie plays us out with a trombone -- but this is just a blatant, violent act that (probably?) won't get waved away in the next episode.[/*]



Pinkie's apartment got destroyed in Secret of My Excess. And the Apple house/barn has been destroyed too, hasn't it?

(Not that I don't think this will be a more permanent change than either of those, it's just hard for me to take the library getting destroyed too seriously, I guess.)
Last edited by londonarbuckle on Sun May 11, 2014 10:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Image: The Return of Me Having a Signature
londonarbuckle
User avatar
see those OCs with their long curly manes
goodnight to the brony era
cause they don't need you anymore
little mare, colt, mare
cooooooooooooooooooooooollllllt
Princesses of Soul
Joined: Oct 17, 2011
Location: HTX
Gender: Male

Postby Venusy (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:18 pm

While I did think Discord's betrayal being real was silly initially, it being planned all along cheapens the emotional impact of the later scenes involving him, makes Fluttershy look like a complete idiot, and arguably wouldn't fulfil the key requirements if he genuinely didn't learn a lesson. :pinkieshrug:

EDIT: As well as nullifying Wayoshi's great post!
Venusy
User avatar
feel boss
Stare Masters
Joined: Apr 23, 2011
Location: South Yorkshire, UK
Gender: Genderqueer
Pronoun: They

Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:21 pm

Wayoshi wrote:I also thought Discord was done surprisingly well, despite me bringing up my general complaint about him again this morning. Tirek tempts him with basically free chaos, but Discord still wants to be friends with Tirek, and that's how Discord is so easily betrayed. Discord even reminiscences a thing about Rarity at some point too. The message of friendship got through to him [weakly], and now that he's gone through this trial, he's come out much farther along the path. Just not even worth a throne yet. :-P

But yeah, secondarily this was a Discord 2-parter that helped his character a good chunk while also serving the plot as the last inspired creature for the 6th key. Pretty solid writing.


I really appreciate this analysis. It seems so obvious in retrospect that this is what's going on, but it wasn't super clear to me at the time.

Friendship is an insidious thing. You can scoff at it; you can deny it; you can belittle it. But once you've tasted it, it'll hold you in thrall, to the point where it will sap you of your preexisting sociopathic and selfish instincts. It'll cause you to let down your guard. It'll make you less cynical and more vulnerable. It'll take your cultivated disaffection and transform it into sincerity, the kind that gripped a generation of internet nerds who clicked on a forum thread or a youtube link.

This episode's moral, then: friendship is a hell of a drug. :ponydrugs:
Headless Horse
User avatar
The yoke is strictly ornamental
Faithful Students
Joined: May 23, 2011

Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:26 pm

Yeah one thing I love about Discord is despite being eons old, in many ways, despite his intelligence he still has the mental maturityof a child, but given most of his existence was him doing whatever he wanted whenever he wanted it's not suprising. It's nice to see even characters like Discord can learn and grow as the series goes on.
Image
Sunset Shimmer is BEST Hu-Mane!!
SoundMonkey44
User avatar
Ain't Got No Sense, No Sense At All.
Joined: Feb 04, 2013
Location: The South West
Gender: Male

Postby Big Boss (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:33 pm

Up until this episode, Discord was using friendship for completely self-serving reasons. Being friends was good _for him_, as long as he benefited he would do whatever with Fluttershy. The rest of the mane six barely tolerated him at best, but they had to, because PC said so (presumably because of having him to use against Tirek).

I'm pretty sure Discord would not have tried befriending Tirek back in the Bad Old Days™ pre-Celestia, and Tirek remembers that Discord was a right bastard back then, hence the bit about taking Equestria for himself. But because Discord thinks of friendship from his point of view, from what he gains, it's easy to simply "trade up" to a friend who has more to offer him. Why have tea parties and cucumber sandwiches when you can have a friend who won't harsh your chaotic buzz? A friend who promises that you can do whatever you want? For a god of chaos, that sounds like a much better deal. Even though he wasn't 100% on board with everything (the bit with Shining Armor, his look of sorrow when Tirek took the Mane Six's magic) he could rationalize away as moving on to bigger and better friendships.

Of course, Discord had never been betrayed before, so he didn't think anyone could actually do it to him. The only thing that could put him away was the Elements of Harmony, and he never had a friend before Flutters either. How would he know what being stabbed in the back is like? He also (wrongly) assumed that everyone was on the level like Fluttershy was. It's a tough lesson to learn but if it turns him from "kinda douchebag friend of your friend" to something like Egophiliac's Discord in Slice of Life, then it'll probably work out in the end.
Big Boss
User avatar
:twonk:
Rarity's Roughnecks
Joined: Feb 14, 2011
Location: Mother Base
Gender: Male

Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:49 pm

Niels Olof wrote:Noteworthy is the significance of meeting foreign dignitaries in the Crystal Empire. Perhaps the Crystal Empire is a more neutral ground to meet rather than at the center of Equestrian power, Canterlot? Especially if the negotiations are sensitive?

I keep wondering about that scene. Not only do they seem like grumps, they're having seeecret negotiations with Equestria. What's going on in there?! :flail:

Mordja wrote:I don't understand why everyone keeps comparing the fight scene to DBZ.

I mean, the whole battle wrapped up over the course of a couple of minutes, not a couple of months.

Yes, clearly this was an episode of Nanoha instead. :smirk:

londonarbuckle wrote:Pinkie's apartment got destroyed in Secret of My Excess. And the Apple house/barn has been destroyed too, hasn't it?

Sugarcube Corner clearly got rebuilt between episodes, and the Apple Family's barn gets razed/raised (1 2 3 4) multiple times an episode. It's harder to rebuild a tree.

ScionVyse wrote:Sure, Tirek not knowing about Twilight's existence is a plothole the size of Jupiter, but if you can ignore that, it was freaking brilliant.

Ransom wrote:He learned about the Mane 6 from Discord. Honestly probably didn't know or care about them beyond being tools and food for consumption.

I think that's the correct interpretation. Tirek was so weakened he couldn't devour ponies' souls, so he may have simply spent two seasons convalescing. Then he met Discord, who could have told him about the princesses and anything else he wanted to know, but Discord held back about Twilight.

In fact, Discord might not even have had to tell him about the princesses at all -- Tirek could've heard about the Crystal Empire and extrapolated, or he could've figured it out on his own when he tromped into the throne room and saw three alicorns instead of two.

What I'm getting at is that Tirek's secret weakness is illiteracy. This is how Twilight will redeem him in season 7.
SlateSlabrock
User avatar
The information's unavailable to the mortal man.
Celestia's Champions
Joined: Feb 14, 2011

Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:51 pm

The quick forgiving still rubs me the wrong way. It came off as way too easy a thing for him. I love that tumbler post about Fluttershy looking for him, and I wish they had added in a quick bit where she has to make a plea for him. That alone would have made the forgiveness less cut and dry.
The Doctor
User avatar
Turner of all things timey wimey
Celestia's Champions
Joined: May 05, 2011
Location: Time & Space
Gender: Male

Postby Minty (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:53 pm

I expected Discord to have the flowers that have a water squirter in them for Celestia. I was pleasantly surprised.

I kind of wish Celestia gave him a prank flower with a water squirter in it though. :gotcha:
Minty
User avatar
Joined: Jul 20, 2013
Gender: Genderless

Postby Dal (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:55 pm

I wonder if they will end up renaming Ponyville now?
Undecided wrote:Every time you write a story I can't help but sigh, because I know I'm gong to lose another man card.
Image
Dal
User avatar
Praise the Sun
Celestia's Champions
Joined: Aug 08, 2011
Gender: Male

Postby Kronos (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:58 pm

Wayoshi wrote:So Kronos, uh, what were you expecting? :rariwhat:


Well, for the most important part of the episode to not have amounted to replacing the Tree Library with what clearly looks like something belonging in the Crystal Empire and NOT Ponyville.

The plot begins strong by presenting a clearly self-referential problem Twilight has about not knowing what she's actually supposed to do as a Princess. However, this is never actually addressed in any meaningful way. Okay, so she's 'The Princess of Friendship', except her duties are same things she's been doing since the season started. To look back at HH's post about how the destruction of the library is a status quo changer, I must strongy argue that it's anything but. Seriously, what on EARTH is different beyond Twilight's home becoming totally out of place in Ponyville and also losing the fact it no longer actually represents HER as does the homes of her friends onto them, as was originally planned by Faust? Every single thing of importance that happened in S4 doesn't matter in the end. Aside from the lockbox, freakin' CERBERUS has more importance than the following which the show beat into the audience as 'important':
-Shadow pony from Castle-Mania
-Fluttershy's fang at the end of BATS!
-Every single thing to do with the 'Castle of the Two Sisters' still retaining dark secrets ala the IM book
-The Equestrian Games (which originally looked like it would be a GGG-style event in the season finale, but wasn't)
-The Keys to the Lockbox being anything more than just one-shot substitues for the EoH before never being mentioned again.
-and finally; Twilight's insecurities as being a princess, because nothing ever actually happens beyond her gaining wings. Ever.

The last item is, above all else, why this episode is such a disappointment in the end. Because at the end of this, her ultimate question of what she's meant to do and why she's important was nothing more than what she'd been doing all season. All the ending is ultimately is a song and more or less the restoration of the status quo with one minor change, relatively speaking.

Which is really a bummer because Discord is excellent all the way through and it's just WASTED ultimately as, despite really mirroring Celestia in the 'wise elder' position at this point, we're not going to see anything major in terms of worldbuilding or the like as he's restricted to secondary character status. Partially because he has a very expensive guest VA, but also because this show painfully refuses to do more than just tease at a possible larger scope of its reality if it doesn't involve more Princess Twilight related stuff.
ImageImageImageImageImageImage
Kronos
User avatar
Part-time Sunset Shimmer supporter
Scootaloo's Pro Scooters
Joined: Mar 03, 2012
Gender: Male

Postby Chaos Sonic (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 10:58 pm

Headless Horse wrote:Image

http://dreamofserenity626.tumblr.com/po ... y-all-land

The storyboarding and animation team keep on killing it with more than their fair share of the storytelling.

You can also see RD looking at Fluts and looking up to see what she's looking at.
Image :flattered: Image
3DS FC: 4570-7176-3195 NNID: Chaosonic
Kitty Kate wrote:As long as you believe in yourself, darling, every pizza is a personal pizza
Chaos Sonic
User avatar
[Screaming. Just Endless Screaming]
Faithful Students
Joined: Sep 15, 2011
Location: Bit west of Ann Arbor, Michigan
Gender: Male

Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun May 11, 2014 11:02 pm

Dal wrote:I wonder if they will end up renaming Ponyville now?


I hope not. There's been enough changes. :starity:
:party: A pony, a plan, a canal...Panamare!
PonyHag714
User avatar
You know my name.
Joined: Mar 18, 2013
Location: Oromareocto, Canterda
Gender: Male

Previous Next

Return to Pony Media Release Threads

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 1 guest