S07E07: Parental Glideance

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Re: S07E07: Parental Glideance

Postby LingEarth (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 7:47 pm

This one was really good. :allears: RD and Scoots together is always good, and Rainbow's parents were great. :scootawoo:

I do wonder about the implications regarding Scootaloo's parents. Which interpretation is worse, that she's an orphan, or that her parents are neglectful? :ngh:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 8:02 pm

They're Ketamine junkies.

They heard "Ket is for horses", and that's all she wrote.

Tragic.
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Postby marshmallow (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 3:09 am

The Doctor wrote:Adorable as she is, Dash's mom should have been Firefly.


I thought in the Testing, Testing episode it was revealed Firefly was one of the first Wonderbolts. From this I inferred that all the G1 ponies lived 1,000 years ago.

If they're going to bring back any older gen ponies, I want Minty!
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 5:06 am

marshmallow wrote:I thought in the Testing, Testing episode it was revealed Firefly was one of the first Wonderbolts. From this I inferred that all the G1 ponies lived 1,000 years ago.


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Postby SpaceHowitzer (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 1:48 am

Did anyone else think Scoots wings looked normal sized? Might have been an animation error or a change for the sesson.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 3:45 am

SpaceHowitzer wrote:Did anyone else think Scoots wings looked normal sized? Might have been an animation error or a change for the sesson.

Her wings are about the same size as young Rainbow Dash's, but they've always been like that.

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People were speculating in one of the earlier episodes that Sweetie Belle had grown up since season 1, but I think it's just models being sized incorrectly in some episodes/scenes in season 1.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 10:55 am

It wasn't quite what I was thinking of, but I'll take this bingo square.

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 1:55 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:It wasn't quite what I was thinking of, but I'll take this bingo square.

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I think you can knock off Horsie noises. And "All Bottled Up" was close enough to "ends with song" that I think you can write that one off too.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 4:07 pm

This was such a good episode. Definitely my favorite of the season so far. :awesomedash:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 4:15 pm

Wow, I seriously was not expecting this to be an episode that got so emotionally heavy. Rainbow Dash basically completely cut her parents out of her life for at least the past six or seven years plus however much longer she was living in Ponyville before the show began, and when they finally get back together she winds up exploding at them before starting to make amends. I figured from the synopsis that there'd be some sort of conflict between her and them, but I didn't think it would get that big.

I wonder if this episode being the first to air (at least, on DF's schedule) after Mother's Day was intentional. Viewers who are be estranged from their parents might possibly think about contacting them again after this.
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Postby Gloomy Rube (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 5:37 pm

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HNNNGGGGG! :ponydrugs:


ARGH CUTE
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 5:46 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Wow, I seriously was not expecting this to be an episode that got so emotionally heavy. Rainbow Dash basically completely cut her parents out of her life for at least the past six or seven years plus however much longer she was living in Ponyville before the show began, and when they finally get back together she winds up exploding at them before starting to make amends. I figured from the synopsis that there'd be some sort of conflict between her and them, but I didn't think it would get that big.

I wonder if this episode being the first to air (at least, on DF's schedule) after Mother's Day was intentional. Viewers who are be estranged from their parents might possibly think about contacting them again after this.

6 or 7 years? I don't think the show is 1:1 with real time in its timeline. :pinkieshrug:

Scootaloo as an orphan fanfics will continue forever, but now the door is open for neglectful parents instead. The show keeps pushing on what it's doing, so I'd love to see a Scoots parents episode (or lack thereof a focus) in a future season. Why not?
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Postby Nicotico (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 6:02 pm

Wayoshi wrote:6 or 7 years? I don't think the show is 1:1 with real time in its timeline. :pinkieshrug:

Scootaloo as an orphan fanfics will continue forever, but now the door is open for neglectful parents instead. The show keeps pushing on what it's doing, so I'd love to see a Scoots parents episode (or lack thereof a focus) in a future season. Why not?

At minimum only thrriee or so years have passed since the start of the series. We've got two galas, two sun festivals, three heartswarming episodes
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 7:25 pm

:offendash: "Why'd it take so long to air my episode? Is this The Rainbow Dash Show or isn't it?"

• Sweetie Belle's a little out of shape after all that ice cream.
• The fillies' schemes are now just as dumb as the adult ponies'. They grow up so fast. :flutterunsmith:
Oh my god everything about this cold open was the best ever
• I didn't catch Rainbow Dad's name but I'm sure it'll be repeated.
• Princess Celestia commemorative plates! Somehow I feel like I already know everything I need to know about this couple. I bet they are best friends with Fluttershy's parents and they all go knick-knack shopping in the recently gentrified "Olde Town" shopping district on Sunday mornings.
• SCOOTALOO WAGGING HER TAIL
• Windy Whistles
• Oh my god, even Pinkie Pie would balk at that many carbs :vomitpony:
• Sandwich scrapbooking, cloud ceiling, RD baby pictures, I could not love this more. :awesomedash:
• Ha, baby Dash had to be tethered to her high chair.
• All the same, I'm starting to see where Dash might get weirded out during home visits.
• The tortoise affinity goes way back, I see.
• A narwhal poster! Why not! But again, this is clearly a room that adult Dash does not sleep in during visits. At least, not gladly. I can see where she came to appreciate the simplicity of a tree branch.
• Oh god, they bronzed everything AND THE RUG IS A GIANT RAINBOW DASH FACE and it's really creepy now but also kind of awesome.
• "dashmentoes"
• Amazing first act. Everyone and everything is so well characterized.
• Ha, cheer turbulence.
• I like that Scootaloo should have checked with Twilight first. She knows alllll the dirt.
• All the wing gestures today are just wonderful.
• This history exposition is fun because Scootaloo and parents are so into it.
• Aaahhh, it's Hug Pegasus and her friend!!! :awesomedash:
• Oh god, these Dash faces.
• And Dash immediately goes to talk to Scootaloo instead of everypony moping for a few scenes. Yay!
Filly Flitter & Cloudchaser! Oh, and some other ponies I guess.
• Man, I wish when I tick off my parents it took me only 0.5 seconds to come up with a solution.
:iamapony: "This isn't a rock and roll concert!"
Bow Hothoof. That's halfway to Viola Bowhoof.
• Mom and Dad were great! Let's see ... Sarah Edmondson and Jason Deline have done a lot, but not a single thing I recognize. Well, they did great.

Review: I am the Rainbow Parents to this episode. #1 of the season so far, maybe one of my all-time favorites. :fluttercite:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 8:14 pm

Wayoshi wrote:6 or 7 years? I don't think the show is 1:1 with real time in its timeline. :pinkieshrug:

Close enough, at least. A non-insignificant amount of time has definitely passed between then and now.
Mechanical Ape wrote:• Sweetie Belle's a little out of shape after all that ice cream.

This was hilarious since she wasn't physically drawing the giant slingshot at all, so there wasn't any need for her to walk along with it other than that it made for better animation. I wonder if unicorns her age have to get used to not needing to physically move objects anymore.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 1:14 am

Mechanical Ape wrote:Review: I am the Rainbow Parents to this episode. #1 of the season so far, maybe one of my all-time favorites. :fluttercite:

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 11:08 am

*beep... beep... beep... beep...*
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Mistakes were made.
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You need a really good graphics card to go to Cloudsdale.
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I'm Bow Hothoof. Remember my name!
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Windy Whistles.
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Celestia commemorative plates.
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All of Scootaloo's book illustrations are the best.
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This looks like a job for Rainbow Dad Man!
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Pegasus architecture
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Scoots having this parent/kid moment is adorable. Also, cloud asbestos.
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Cloud ceilings are a neat detail.
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Rainbow Dash had headgear?!
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"When the going gets tough, the tough don't notice because they have hard shells."
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Gasp! It's...!
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 11:19 am

Rainbow's room.
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Giant Rainbow Dash rug. Everything is bronzed.
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Turbulence!
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woOOoOoOOo
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Murderface murderface murderface.
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Fleetfoot, you liddle shit
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Wing-waves.
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CRAZY PONIES.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 11:32 am

Time for an exhibition! Everypony's there -- I think even non-pegasi.
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In fact, is that Cheerilee? I'll check the close-ups.
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More of Scootaloo's illustrations.
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This guy DIED. Or became a flight instructor, but hey, if you ain't a Wonderbolt, you're of no concern to Rainbow Dash.
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HEY REF, ARE YOU BLIND?
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Let's get ready to rummmbleeeeee
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Whizzzz zoooom
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*poof*
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When your parents are about to be ejected by security.
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Oh yeah, what about Cheeri--
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MORTAR
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I'm pretty sure this is a felony, Mom.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 11:42 am

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Green-tailed guy must be the official royal photographer. Also, fillies of all races.
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Hey, it's Vapor Trail and Sky Stinger! And also Cloud Chaser, Sunshower Raindrops, and Sprinkle Medley. I think they're still cadets?
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And... is that Thunderlane? Was he a Wonderbolt?
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Fleetfoot can smell razzing material from miles away.
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ANGRY WING FINGERS.
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Rainbow Dash feels terrible about yelling at her parents. Or losing Scootaloo's faith. One other the other.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 11:47 am

Story time!
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Rainbow Dash (and every other notable pegasus) through the years.
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The rivalry starts early.
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Best bath taker ever.
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Best carrot eater under three.
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Greatest napper of all time.
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Oh, there's Cheerilee.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 12:07 pm


Is it just me or do these two have a damn fine kitchen?
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 12:54 pm

100% move that breadbox to the other side of the sink. You want a clear space between sink and stovetop for all of your prep.
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Postby Gloomy Rube (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 5:51 pm

This episode was great, dash's parents are great, I love especially that the moral was "the parents are good" and not "the parents are overbearing"
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 21, 2017 6:04 pm

Gloomy Rube wrote:This episode was great, dash's parents are great, I love especially that the moral was "the parents are good" and not "the parents are overbearing"



Yup. Lots of grey in this episode, which I find to make for a more compelling story than a simple black and white issue.
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Postby Lhet (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 12:01 am

Liked this episode a bit. Nifty to see a story behind RD's personality.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 12:07 am

I guess this confirms that Rainbow Dash is an only child, then, doesn't it? If she'd had any siblings then her parents perhaps wouldn't have heaped quite so much praise and attention on her alone.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:18 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I guess this confirms that Rainbow Dash is an only child, then, doesn't it? If she'd had any siblings then her parents perhaps wouldn't have heaped quite so much praise and attention on her alone.

There is still the possibility that she has an identical twin sister.
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Also the writers don't shy away from inventing new siblings like Maud Pie. :maud:
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 9:13 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:I guess this confirms that Rainbow Dash is an only child, then, doesn't it? If she'd had any siblings then her parents perhaps wouldn't have heaped quite so much praise and attention on her alone.


That "We are Family" picture book they released just a bit ago says she is, and I figure that's the kind of thing Hasbro would want to okay. So I'd say so.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:07 pm

2nd best episode of the season behind A Royal Problem.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:15 pm

adiwan wrote:Also the writers don't shy away from inventing new siblings like Maud Pie. :maud:

Sure, but at least Maud could be easily squeezed in, since Pinkie Pie had two sisters already and her relationship with any of her siblings wasn't terribly defining of who she was. Whereas with Rainbow Dash, now that we know the big thing with her family relationship is that her parents doted on her far more than she likes, suddenly giving her another sibling out of nowhere would kind of spoil that since only children so often tend to get smothered by their parents.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 3:44 pm

The Doctor wrote:Yup. Lots of grey in this episode, which I find to make for a more compelling story than a simple black and white issue.

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Postby Doctor Wheeze (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:00 pm

In the Cheese Sandwich episode, we learned that Rainbow Dash's birthday is the same day as the anniversary of her moving to Ponyville. My half-serious headcanon was always that her parents threw her out (because she was a slacker) the day she turned 18, but I guess the opposite is true! She actually left herself as soon as she could because her parents were annoying. That's a neat little bit of subtle continuity.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 5:18 pm

Great job blowing up the weather factory, sweetheart! Nopony commits industrial sabotage like our Dashie. :snicker:



E: For all the early hints of pegasus society being Spartan-influenced, I love that when we actually meet RD and Fluttershy's folks they are as middle-class domestic as can be. :flutterunsmith: Would Commander Hurricane own commemorative plates?
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Postby pony person thing (?) » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:57 am

Best episode of the season far. Even though I didn't like Rainbow Dash being vilified for doing nothing wrong, it was still adorable and had some great Scootalove in it.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:35 pm

Another great RD and scoot ep
Pinkie Pie: So, you see this here? This, um, this is um, a big, round room. It's known for its roundness, and bigness, and did I mention that it's round?
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:35 am

Wow. This one really threw me for a loop. (lol flying pun or something)

The "helicopter parents" schtick seemed like it was going to be the episode's main thing, and it very nearly was, for almost its entire length. In fact I fully expected the moral of the story, right up until Rainbow suddenly disavowed it, to be "parents shouldn't butt into their kids' lives too much, you should be ashamed of yourself, parents in the audience who act like this". I thought the mention of "participation stickers" had clinched it: another episode about how bad parenting is to blame for the failures of millennials, like Fluttershy's man-bun-wearing brother.

But then that sudden left turn at the end, where Rainbow decides—possibly helped by the fact (that others have noted already) that the other Wonderbolts were not at all put out by the parents' presence and were just rather bemused, while Rainbow was the only one who was really mortified—that this is really her problem and not her parents'. That caught me completely off guard. Honestly I don't think I entirely buy it, even; let's be frank, parents who fire mortars into a Wonderbolts performance and who stomp and cheer so loud the other spectators have to physically retreat are not exactly role models. But the episode isn't telling us that they're blameless; it's telling us that they're well-meaningly obnoxious, yes, but there are better ways to deal with obnoxious parents than telling them off.

This is one of those episodes whose best aspects have to do with its density—gags, worldbuilding, characterization, little background details. Posters have already noted how much is going on throughout the episode, and they're absolutely right; every scene is a feast for the eyes, and full of gags and details that flesh out the world in ways that have hardly been exercised this much since the show's early seasons. Rainbow Dad mowing the clouds, for instance. Rainbow Mom's collection of commemorative Celestia plates (how perfectly in-character that she would channel her preexisting predilection for collectibles into cataloging every moment of Rainbow Dash's life). And god damn I love that round egg-shaped chair with the cloud cushion. I can just see her curling up in there :ponydrugs:

And I was certainly amused to see them throw such a deftly neutral Scootaloo bomb. "Ya know, some ponies would dream of having parents like that." "Oh yeah? Name one!" "...Me!" It's soooo easy to read that as an I don't have parents... if you're so inclined. So easy in fact that it was clearly written specifically to be that ambiguous. The writer so badly wanted to give us that confirmation, but couldn't go quite that far... so it's left as close to a confirmation as physically possible, while still being perfectly easy to read simply as "My parents neglect me" (which isn't exactly better, Hasbro). Ha.

Solid, solid episode. I have to say that once we had that sharp turn at the end, all my anxiety about the one-noteness of the Rainbow Parents evaporated, and the final flight show (where they were admirably restrained in their cheering) was a top tier emotional pony moment. Nice job, new writer.


BTW I hope those star-patterned flight stunts were a Star Trek reference
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:23 am

BTW I love all this talk of bronzing.



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