S07E13: The Perfect Pear

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S07E13: The Perfect Pear

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Jun 17, 2017 7:54 pm

The Apple siblings learn about their parent's love story and find out that they're half Pear.


This thread is for discussion of the episode. This episode airs on Boomerang in Australia at 1:40 AM Eastern on Wednesday, June 21! (10:40 Pacific night prior)

Official preview clips and images are okay to post, as is speculation about the episode.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5rh5nz
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Postby Juju&Lulu (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 11:16 am

Well Discordant Harmony played out exactly as it's long-form synopsis said it would. So now we pretty much know how this episode will go.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:44 pm

Spoiler alert: Applejack's parents had snu-snu at least three times, unless Applejack, Big Mac and Applebloom were all adopted. <dramatic soap opera music>
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:51 am

:seethe: Sam Elliot pony is not voiced by Sam Elliot.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:03 am

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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:11 am

I'm kind of mixed on this episode.


:allears: The parent's backstory was fantastic. Yeah, it's standard Romeo and Juliet stuff, but it was very cute and sweet. Apple Mom is adorable and that song was lovely. Them talking and flirting as babies was weird though. Why not have them as young kids like CMC age?


:rariwhat: The story framing device didn't work for me. The apple kids know nothing about their parents? AJ and Mac never asked them? They were alive when they were, and they never asked? What happened for the parent's funeral? Did Grand Pear never show up? Did Granny never tell him?

I think this episode would have worked a lot better with just Apple Bloom seeing info about her parents since she never knew them. She's getting older and wants to know about them. Having AJ and Mac also know nothing about them just came off as odd.



Still a lovely episode overall, but that framing device brought it down a little for me.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:17 am

Before this gets buried, I have to give out some serious credit for getting the continuity on Mayor Mare's mane correct. That's something that only came up in one S2 episode, yet here we are in a generation ago flashback when she was young, so there she is with no dye. Just fantastic continuity.

I was a bit weirded out by baby-esque ponies talking, and I'm sure I wasn't the only one. Gotta love the inconsistency of how baby ponies are drawn as well as just how young they are... :v:

Things definitely got rushed towards the end, as usual, but not terribly so. But you barely see Granny accepting Pear Butter, that's how little time we had. And obviously they tiptoed the line as much as they could, and a few lines here and there hinted they died. Let's get to those fanfictions now on how that occurred...

The Doctor wrote:I think this episode would have worked a lot better with just Apple Bloom seeing info about her parents since she never knew them. She's getting older and wants to know about them. Having AJ and Mac also know nothing about them just came off as odd.

You do have a point. I kinda just assumed Granny shut down conversation about them for the most part. If we assume they died when AB was a baby, Big Mac & AJ were still fairly young at this time (refer back to Cutie Mark Chronicles), and my assumption becomes more plausible. I mean, it's pretty believable to me that they didn't know Buttercup was actually Pear Butter. I assume Granny didn't talk about Pears because she resented Grand Pear for removing himself from Pear Butter's life, and not being there when they died.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:22 am

Wayoshi wrote:I was a bit weirded out by baby-esque ponies talking, and I'm sure I wasn't the only one. Gotta love the inconsistency of how baby ponies are drawn as well as just how young they are... :v:


I added that to my reaction before I saw you did too. That was a weird scene.



You do have a point. I kinda just assumed Granny shut down conversation about them for the most part. If we assume they died when AB was a baby, Big Mac & AJ were still fairly young at this time (refer back to Cutie Mark Chronicles), and my assumption becomes more plausible. I mean, it's pretty believable to me that they didn't know Buttercup was actually Pear Butter. I assume Granny didn't talk about Pears because she resented Grand Pear for removing himself from Pear Butter's life, and not being there when they died.


Still just seems odd that these two would never have known about that to me. Like I said, I think the episode is still pretty darn good, it's just something that didn't sit right for me.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:55 pm

AUUUUUUUUUUGGGGHHH! :allears: :allears: :-D :-D :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :pride: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :saddershy: :saddershy: :saddershy: :saddershy: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: AAAAAAAAAAAAAA :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :saddershy: :saddershy: :saddershy: :saddershy: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:
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Postby drunkill (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:57 pm

That was a great episode, sadly it wasn't a minute or two longer just to give the wrapup and ending a little bit more focus.

Very cute and well done given the fans have wanted something like this for literally 5+ years. All the new characters had amazing voices too.
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The only issue with this episode, it would have been fantastic. At least they had Lebowskipony walking away from him in the establishing shot.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:16 pm

This was a really sweet episode. Finally we know the rest of the story. Image

I liked the song, and I'm glad they placed it over the credits.

Nightmare Moon in the moon reference :unenthused:

Big Mac was pretty good here. I appreciate them doing more with his character and giving him more of a personality in recent seasons. :eeyup:

It was nice to see Mrs. Cake and Mayor Mare have an important role in the episode. I thought Pinkie might appear, since she's (probably) related to the Apples, but I suppose her usual antics would be out of place here, and having her be more serious wouldn't look right either.

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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:24 pm

This episode was heartwarming and wonderful and just a bit sad since we all know what eventually happens but I don't care because Apple Parents were adorable and now the full Mane 6 parents are out in the open.

Nightmare Moon in the moon reference :unenthused:


It's not really a reference, I mean, she kind of was in the moon then so if you're going to show it she'd better be there for continuity reasons!

This ep was double great because it showed clear care for continuity with stuff like the Mayor Mare's hair and bringing back Goldie Delicious in a way that makes perfect sense. A+ top tier pony.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:00 pm

:-D :-D :-D I'M STILL SUPER VERKLEMPT! :allears: :allears: :allears:

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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:45 pm

Time to watch the Burnt Oak part again.
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Postby adiwan (?) » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:12 pm

I don't know if the family feud was overplayed by the respective narrators or Grand Pear and Granny Smith were in fact ruthless family leaders.
The narration part would explain the terrible talking babies.
The factual part would explain the extreme freak-out by Applejack and Big Mac.
I'm conflicted.
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I guess the truth is somewhere in the middle.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:32 am

Wow... wow :allears:

That was so incredibly sweet I can't stand it. The lovely romance story, the kids enraptured with learning about their parents, the song :allears: :allears:
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Postby Kronos (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:44 am

Holy shit I actually shed a tear over cartoon ponies.
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:35 am

It was good horsie. And on my Bday no less. (Though I didn't see it till 1am and thus post bday. Was playing new edition of Warhammer 40K and then coming home to write more army lists. New volume of Empowered came out too. And I found the Hera and Chopper Imperial Assault minis pack so I have SPACE MOM and her orange metal furbaby! A decent day all things considered.)
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:22 pm

Kronos wrote:Holy shit I actually shed a tear over cartoon ponies.


Yep same here. Just the one tear. That was all :liarjack:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:52 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:
Yep same here. Just the one tear. That was all :liarjack:

Not emptyquote.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 4:51 pm

This episode is the embodiment of :cry: and it was worth every second.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Thu Jun 22, 2017 9:47 pm

This was just wow, indeed.

Great job, Pony staff! :allears:

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Postby Dexanth (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:28 am

That part of the world building was super cool
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 4:46 am

This hit my heart with a sledge hammer of feels! I wasn't expecting a pony episode to be this touching...
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On a lighter note, Bright Mac got distracted when he saw that booty and swiggity swooty right into the water silo.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:43 am

Dexanth wrote:This episode was heartwarming and wonderful and just a bit sad since we all know what eventually happens

Or do we? :flail:
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:07 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:Or do we? :flail:

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Postby Aramek (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:08 pm

"Yes, yes it does."
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:16 pm

I would really hope they don't pull a stupid Hey Arnold with her parents.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:25 pm

I like to think he's messing with us. Or that just means we'll find out more (which seems unnecessary but could be fine if done right).

Just please don't do anything that would retroactively ruin this episode, cause it's amazing :allears:
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:37 pm

I guess they are not dead, they must of spent half their life working on the apple farm and decided to spend the second half on the pear farm?
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Postby adiwan (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 5:54 pm

What's then the explanation why they didn't visit their children? Why didn't the children visit them?
Heck... Equestria has a mail delivery system.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:18 pm

Soft Snow wrote:I guess they are not dead, they must of spent half their life working on the apple farm and decided to spend the second half on the pear farm?
:pinkieshrug:

Are you reacting to Big Jim's tweet? That was two years ago when the Crusaders of Lost Mark mention occurred.

They're dead.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Jun 24, 2017 4:06 am

Man, this season has been really good so far.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 pm

RudeCyrus wrote:Man, this season has been really good so far.

A positive comment about the show!?
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Mon Jun 26, 2017 11:30 pm

When have I been negative about the show
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:44 pm

So happy that this episode not only turned out well, but that the fandom reaction matched mine. It seems like there's been relatively little backlash against this episode, with a lot of people actually praising it as one of the best episodes of the whole show. I can only imagine the amount of care the writers put into this episode to make sure it would deliver; hence why I give a lot of props to Songco and Lewis (Season 7's story editors and the writers of this episode).

I hope the episode sways people who had became disinterested in MLP back into the show. :flutterunsmith:

And maybe wins some awards too come awards season? :allears:
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Postby Ransom (?) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:43 am

Stupid pony show making me cry...

The fact that they don't mention how they died seems to bug a few people, but it's not really needed. Do you really want a throw away line about them getting caught in the apple juicer or something?

My suspicion is that the Apples vanished without a trace on...something like the pony equivalent of the Titanic. Leading eventually to the fandom exploding moment when they are revealed to have been trapped on a deserted island with amnesia all these years or something.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 5:51 am

RudeCyrus wrote:When have I been negative about the show

I might have confused you for someone else then. I took a gamble to try assume who you are to establish a better friendship.

I regret nothing.
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Postby LingEarth (?) » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:56 pm

That episode was amazing. :hilarious: The Apple Parents are such a cute couple.
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