S04E16: It Ain't Easy Being Breezies

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Re: S04E16: It Ain't Easy Being Breezies

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:13 pm

Yeah, I've read some stories about anime fandoms but I think this kind of thing is normal for all of them.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:18 pm

Yeah, until your fandom emotionally decimates a teenage actor, your fandom is not top tier... :roll:

Then one of the guys idols trashes him too.

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Postby Discord (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:35 pm

It doesn't matter what fandom is the worst or if bronies are better or worse than other fandoms. Shitty behaviour is shitty behaviour.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:39 pm

No, I definitely agree with you there. It's a horrible thing to do no matter what the reason. There's no reason for people to be harassed and threatened about media.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:42 pm

Discord wrote:It doesn't matter what fandom is the worst or if bronies are better or worse than other fandoms. Shitty behaviour is shitty behaviour.



Agreed. And it's also far too common online. Propel treat the net like the Wild West, which is just sad. :fluttersmith:
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Postby J. Jonah Jameson (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:44 pm

Discord wrote:It doesn't matter what fandom is the worse or if bronies are better or worse than other fandoms. Shitty behaviour is shitty behaviour.


this. There is a lot of horrible shit in the brony fandom that is completely inexcusable for a fandom for a show meant to be about empowering and teaching little girls, so can we stop with the whole "well this fandom is just as bad / worse!" blame-passing? I don't want to have to bring up examples because they're horrible and it's off-topic. Please can we just talk about adorable bug poney

On the subject of which, I wonder if Sea Breeze's toy is going to have the colours changed to match the show, or if they'll keep it as is.

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Or maybe Sea Breezie is his cousin :pinkieshrug:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:00 pm

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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:03 pm

We need that Lyra smiley as well as that Bon-Bon one. They look so good.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:14 pm

J. Jonah Jameson wrote:
this. There is a lot of horrible shit in the brony fandom that is completely inexcusable for a fandom for a show meant to be about empowering and teaching little girls, so can we stop with the whole "well this fandom is just as bad / worse!" blame-passing? I don't want to have to bring up examples because they're horrible and it's off-topic. Please can we just talk about adorable bug poney


I agree. Don't excuse bad people because "others are just as bad." Bad behavior is bad regardless.

Discuss the bug pones and how adorable they are. :pcstare:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:18 pm

But they weren't that adorable. They weren't baby pony horrifying, but I found the design to be pretty meh.
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Postby Perpetual Lurker (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:21 pm

I found them to be super adorable. :allears:
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:22 pm

The Doctor wrote:But they weren't that adorable. They weren't baby pony horrifying, but I found the design to be pretty meh.



I thought they were adorable. :allears:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:24 pm

I also think they were absolutely adorable...probably the cutest things in the show for a long time.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:25 pm

kefkafloyd wrote:Discuss the bug pones and how adorable they are. :pcstare:

But there weren't any changelings in this episode!
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Postby Kitsune (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:29 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:But there weren't any changelings in this episode!


...Or maybe they were all changelings :twonk:
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Postby Mordja (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:31 pm

They worked a lot better in action than in the preview stills. :3:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:32 pm

The Doctor wrote:But they weren't that adorable. They weren't baby pony horrifying, but I found the design to be pretty meh.

Two terrible opinions. :-/
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Postby Ransom (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:45 pm

I want to know the origin of this pollen migration. Why do they need to go to another world, one that is dangerous to them, just for pollen? Did their ancestors recklessly kill all the pollen producing flowers? Is it some Breezie rite of passage?
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Postby Wylie (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:56 pm

Ransom wrote:I want to know the origin of this pollen migration. Why do they need to go to another world, one that is dangerous to them, just for pollen? Did their ancestors recklessly kill all the pollen producing flowers? Is it some Breezie rite of passage?


Celestia has a really good marketing department.

:gotcha: Equestrian pollen: It's got what plants crave!

Also Breezies are super adorable.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:57 pm

Aramek wrote:Two terrible opinions. :-/

:snobtavia: I am a connoisseur of cute and adorable, and this wasn't either.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:59 pm

Ransom wrote:I want to know the origin of this pollen migration. Why do they need to go to another world, one that is dangerous to them, just for pollen? Did their ancestors recklessly kill all the pollen producing flowers? Is it some Breezie rite of passage?

Maybe they're like the aliens in E.T., going around to other worlds and collecting specimens of their plant life.

"Sea... Breeze... phone home..."
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:16 pm

Anyone else a bit sad we didn't get Breezie Spike?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:19 pm

The Doctor wrote:Anyone else a bit sad we didn't get Breezie Spike?

If they were to do anything like that to him, I'd rather see a proper ponified Spike, as mentioned earlier in the thread.
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Postby Passport Clean (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:39 pm

@ Aramek's long post:

Did you ever know that you're my heeroooo, 'cause you are the breeze beneath my wings... :)

The Doctor wrote: I am a connoisseur of cute and adorable, and this wasn't either.


:beggarshy: You poor thing, your d'awww receptors are all burned out from years of abuse...

Anyway, going briefly back to the subject of video reviewers, I must say that if they were all more like Dr.Wolf001 here I wouldn't mind so much. Even when you disagree with the guy it's hard to find him disagreeable:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHet6hUD ... jYdOl9q2og

Man, that guy's smooth and gentle as a silk bathrobe. :chillin:

I must confess though, I have a weak point when it comes to pony reviewers, in the form of the only one I really trust: MysteriousMrEnter. Although I disagree with many of his reviews and personal peeves he just comes across as... balanced. His reviews of other cartoons indicate he comes at pony from a much more "outside" perspective. I'm in high suspense waiting for his verdict on this episode. :heehaw:

If he gives it a passing grade of any sort I'll (pathetically) feel vindicated. If he hates it I'll be deeply saddened but it won't change my own opinion because Passport likes what Passport likes yo. :grumpydash:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:44 pm

After a rewatch my opinion of the episode is different. Average to good. Still don't like some bits, but they're tolerable.
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Postby Mir (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:49 pm

That's interesting.
What was different for you?
like the Matrix, but with raccoons instead of computers...
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:53 pm

My stirring speech. :ain'tnoemotesmugenough:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:04 pm

Mir wrote:That's interesting.
What was different for you?


Seen it once already, so I knew what to expect and I got used to the breezie desings. I could focus on the episode instead of how much the breezies and the transformation bug me.

Overall, it's a solid episode, but it needed a second watch.

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There was some of that yeah.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:21 pm

Do you feel my crazed ramblings had merit? Did you see any resentment he had for himself? It might be just me, but I really saw that he did.
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:25 pm

Aramek wrote:Do you feel my crazed ramblings had merit? Did you see any resentment he had for himself? It might be just me, but I really saw that he did.

FWIW, I think that's a pretty reasonable reading of the character. I don't know if that's what they were intentionally going for, but I do think it's a supportable interpretation.
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:31 pm

Aramek wrote:Do you feel my crazed ramblings had merit? Did you see any resentment he had for himself? It might be just me, but I really saw that he did.


I don't know if that's what they intended, but I could see the interpretation making sense.
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Postby J. Jonah Jameson (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:39 pm

The Doctor wrote: :snobtavia: I am a connoisseur of cute and adorable, and this wasn't either.

Now now, a true Cuteness connoisseur knows that cuteness is as subjective as humour and horror :twiright: It is very much based on one's own experiences and tastes.

It would have been very easy for the animators to create a generically cute design - just take the regular ponies, make them tiny and stick butterfly wings on. Technically cute, but dreadfully bland. Look at the Parasprites - they're just a circle with a face. I always found them boring-looking, but there are probably people out there who find them cute. There are a lot of genericute shortcuts they could have taken to assure that the breezies were as marketably bland as possible - give them :3 faces, give them big eyes, make them all look like sweetie belle - and I'm grateful that they didn't.
The design they went with is daring in the sense that it uses insect motifs like long, skinny legs and antennae, and insects are generally regarded by society as "not cute". Personally I think it paid off - I found them adorable. But, I do also think that regular insects are adorable. I'd like to hear the thoughts on their design from someone who dislikes insects.
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Postby ThunderBunny (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:46 pm

I didn't have terribly strong feelings either way on the designs of their bodies, but I loved their big floaty wings. :allears:
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Postby Discord (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:48 pm

:ponder: I didn't find their designs particularly adorable. But I did find Sea Breeze reuniting with his family to be extremely adorable.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:52 pm

Discord wrote::ponder: I didn't find their designs particularly adorable. But I did find Sea Breeze reuniting with his family to be extremely adorable.


I was more amused by that part (not that it wasn't adorable) because of the neck breaking change from "Man, Sea Breeze is kind of a jerk" to "Wow, the other Breezies were total assholes".
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Postby Sind (?) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:02 am

The Doctor wrote:But they weren't that adorable. They weren't baby pony horrifying, but I found the design to be pretty meh.

I for one actually like the baby pony designs :v:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:30 am

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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:34 am

Something about that picture is just really 'd'awwwww'. :unsmith:
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Postby Space Ghost (?) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:43 am

It's Dash's happy face. :3:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:51 am

Rainbow Dash is always adorable. :awesomedash:

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