S05E18: Crusaders of the Lost Mark

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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:59 pm

AJ JUST FUCKIN' SAID "IF MOM AND DAD WERE HERE! AUUUUUGH!
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:00 pm

Welp, that was an episode. :-I
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:00 pm

...they did it.

They fucking did it.

They got their cutie mark.

...THEY DID IT! :party:
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:01 pm

Okay, calling this one of the best episodes of the series.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:02 pm

Well they're still the cmc only now they help others find a cm.

That was a total surprise of an episose. Like. At first I doubted that Diamond wouldn't stay changed, but now I think she will
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:03 pm

I WAS WRONG :flail:
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Postby drunkill (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:03 pm

:3

They could have ended the show with that (and a similar ending episode before for mane 6 of course)

That was great. 5 years of pone, knocking it out of the park.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:03 pm

I didn't expect both DT redemption AND cutie marks. Fuckin great episode. Genuinely good songs, fun story, best filly got proper Good Horse status so now she can be in more things, and the CMC actually advanced as characters. Good all around.
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:04 pm

I wonder if they timed this episode so that it comes out today, the fifth anniversary of the show. Because THIS is a good anniversary episode.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:05 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:I WAS WRONG :flail:

THE BEST TIME TO BE WRONG!
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Postby JaneCV (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:05 pm

Sailor Yue wrote:That was a total surprise of an episose. Like. At first I doubted that Diamond wouldn't stay changed, but now I think she will

I heard that. Diamond Tiara turning nice was not something I expected and I was really excited to see that happen. Then cutie marks out of fucking nowhere. Most emotional rollercoastery 5 minutes of ponies ever.
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Postby Wildfire (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:05 pm

It happened.
It finally happened.

No more blank flanks. :anticipation: :insomnia: :ohboy:

And DT was reformed. I think Satan just put a coat on. :shock:

1000/10 episode. The episode was a 50 megaton feels bomb.
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Postby Adelor Lyon (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:06 pm

Episodes I've cried during when watching the first time:

1) A Friend in Deed (Smile song)
2) Magical Mystery Cure (Celestia singing)
3) Crusaders of the Lost Mark (Cutie mark GET)

My initial impression: Holy fucking shit, best episode of season 5 for so many reasons. I've always loved Diamond Tiara's singing voice since she had those couple of lines in Pinkie Pride (the same singer as Pinkie Pie, I believe?) and this whole episode was just great. I can't wait to rewatch it!
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:07 pm

Applejack actually mentioned dead parents too. Holy shit.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:08 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I wonder if they timed this episode so that it comes out today, the fifth anniversary of the show. Because THIS is a good anniversary episode.


It had to be, right? Too much shit happened to not be a 'special episode'.

Also hey this is how you do a 'what fans want' episode by the way. Like I liked the 100th episode and all but this was a genuine 'people who liked the show, both target demographic kids and older fans have said they'd like shit like this to happen' kinda thing for a special occasion, and that was way better.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:09 pm

So the CMC arc is now done, but as poignantly said, will live on. This episode is about the CMC realizing they're pretty good at helping others with their own plight, via their worst enemy in Diamond Tiara, and thus leading to their own marks. Admittedly while the Troubleshoes ep wasn't that good, it did set this episode up with extending the CMC's mission beyond blank flanks to "misunderstood marks", which Diamond Tiara has to come to terms with (or more "suppressed by her parents" in this case).

While it looks like the CMC will have a career in setting up some type of cutie mark support program or whatnot, there's still the "inner marks" of an apple, singing, etc. I hope Sweetie discovers her beautiful voice as at least a side hobby.
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Postby LardLad3545 (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:10 pm

Their cutie marks are so much better than anything I had been imagining. I've always been a little wary of this progression because it seemed like it'd really screw with the CMC formula that's worked well up to now. This solution... this solution that keeps a good (and now wonderfully clarified) status quo... it's perfection. I love it. I love that what they've been doing all this time has been their purpose, and they only got their marks when they stopped caring about them. This right here is why I legit consider Ponies one of the better shows out there. This kind of shit is brilliant, regardless of the type of show or who it's aimed at.

Guys... I'm feeling really :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs: :ponydrugs:

I also died from cuteness overload. Bury me with my stuff.
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Postby UnintelGen (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:11 pm

MUSICAL!

JERK HORSE!

DEAD PARENTS CANONIZED!

This episode had it all. Surprisingly energetic, without feeling rushed. Not the biggest fan of some of the songs (Which is weird for me. I think it's because they're secondary character focused, if anything.) but what a wonderful way to round out five years of horsie things. That intro callback, wait, ... I just realized why it was Luna looking the photo! It's cause she was helping them each season! That's... Surprisingly thorough, if possibly unintentional at first.

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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:11 pm

Yea they did the CMC arc perfectly. The whole point is the cutie mark is what you're good at and all, so of course it's not the end of the story just a part of it.

Cutie Mark Consultants!

Also I love the smell of burning fanfics in the morning
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Postby JaneCV (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:12 pm

Countdown until the map summons them to solve a cutie mark problem? :amazing:
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:12 pm

Incredible. Almost every episode, barring the previous episode and Castle Sweet Castle, has been jaw-droppingly amazing either with how funny it was or how in-depth and serious it was.

This is one of the best possible outcomes for the Crusaders too. They get to do something a bit different, but also stay relatively the same as they've always been, and while there might have been some interesting stories to tell with them getting mad at one another for getting cutie marks at different times or somesuch, I think ultimately it's nice to have them together and happy about what they are and where they're going.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:13 pm

I didn't like that at all.

I didn't really care for a Diamond Tiara redemption. I mean, I kind of like how they showed how her family life is what lead to her being a jerk, but I think they went way over the top with her mother. Having her be a bit stuck up and classist could have worked, but it was just too much and became really unbelievable. But the big problem with redeeming Diamond Tiara is that it's pretty much the end of her character. What do you do with her now?

I found all of the songs to be pretty bland and forgettable at best, and kind of annoying at worst, which is too bad because they made up the vast majority of the episode.

But I really didn't like the crusaders getting their marks the way they did. All three getting the same mark at the same time for the same thing really rubbed me the wrong way. I think it really took away their individuality. A cutie mark is supposed to be about a special talent and showing ones special and unique talent. By giving them all the same mark, it really takes that away, especially when we've seen them developing real talents and skills.

I dunno, I guess I just think it was a bad episode. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:13 pm

I've said for a while now that I thought the CMC needed to get their marks separately, particularly Apple Bloom getting hers last.

Well I was wrong. Tying their marks together made this work. And AKR knocked it out of the park.
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Postby Rainbow Crash (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:15 pm

I didn't even know it was the five year anniversary until 10 minutes before the episode started. It was everything I could have hoped for :awesomedash:
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Postby The Outlander (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:16 pm

I thought, and hoped, for just a second that Diamond Tiara's cutie mark was going to change into something else that had a more positive connotation. I think it'd have been an awesome shift in the show's texture to say that people can change who they are, symbolically reflected by a shifting cutie mark with a change of heart, but it still turned out great in the end and I suppose I can't really complain.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:17 pm

LardLad3545 wrote:Their cutie marks are so much better than anything I had been imagining.
Yeah, this. They're beautiful. :-D
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:18 pm

It's once again time for an edition of "Amy tweeting up a storm".

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 41m41 minutes ago

Originally the opening scene had rhyming dialogue recapping what the CMCs tried to get their Cutie Marks. It was cut for time. #MLP5

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 38m38 minutes ago

When I wrote the original lyrics for “Voting,” I had “What is This Feeling?” (aka “Loathing”) from Wicked in my head. #MLP5

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 36m36 minutes ago

I love that camera shot with Pip on the teeter totter. Well done! #MLP5

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 32m32 minutes ago

Diamond Tiara’s mom Spoiled Rich went through many names. First she was “Married Rich” and then “Stuck Up Rich.” #MLP5

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 32m32 minutes ago

Writing the lyrics for Diamond Tiara’s song, I had “When Somebody Loved Me” in my head. Wanted it to be a tear-jerker. And it is. #MLP5

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 20m20 minutes ago

They tune in my head while writing the lyrics for “Make Our Mark” I had “You Can’t Stop the Beat” from Hairspray in my head. #MLP5

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 16m16 minutes ago

Holy Crapballs! Congrats to all the folks at DHX! That episode was kicked flank! Thank you for giving my script AMAZING life! #MLP5

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 8m8 minutes ago

We knew the CMCs would get their CMs in #MLP5. An "original" writer needed to write it. When Cindy wasn't available, I HAPPILY stepped up!

Amy Keating Rogers ‏@KeatingRogers 8m8 minutes ago

I thought this was going to be my final episode of #MLP5, but then I got the @LenaRockerHall episode! Yay!
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:20 pm

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Here's to five years of getting shit from these two.

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It's kinda symmetrical how the first time we see Diamond Tiara she's having her Cutescenaria (agh) and it's also the episode when the three of the CMC meet each other.

And now the episode where they finally get their marks is also an episode where DT figures heavily.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:21 pm

Here are the song credits, another half-dozen in this musical.

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DT's VA handled her mother also.
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:22 pm

AKR draws song ideas from the best places.

Also I love how "Spoiled Rich" was actually the LEAST subtle name she workshopped for the mother, fantastic.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:23 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:Not happening until the last season or movie or whatever.

Eat a fruit hat now. :-I
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:24 pm

It's fitting that the CMCs figured out their special talent by helping out their (former) worst enemy, Diamond Tiara. When they succeeded, their talents were now obvious.
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:24 pm

wonder if we're going to get a new opening next episode with that new picture being sent to the princessessess


(with recycled animation, none the less :gonkity: )


And in another unintentional throwback to S1 they'll forget Scoot's wings :lol: :nngh:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:25 pm

:lol: Very first shot of the CMC after getting their cutie marks, they forgot the cutie marks.

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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:27 pm

shotgunbadger wrote:AKR draws song ideas from the best places.

Also I love how "Spoiled Rich" was actually the LEAST subtle name she workshopped for the mother, fantastic.

I like how Filthy is actually pretty cool, and Spoiled is the one who is all mean. As opposed to both of them, like Jet Set and Upper Crust.
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Your MRI results have shown total infection to now be approximately one fifth of the full mass of the tissue.

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Your brain is about 20% tumor.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:35 pm

Master_Twig wrote:But the big problem with redeeming Diamond Tiara is that it's pretty much the end of her character. What do you do with her now?

She's a secondary character, so I don't see this as a huge issue. Hell, I think we will see her working with the new CMC in S6.
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Postby UnintelGen (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:36 pm

The Doctor wrote::lol: Very first shot of the CMC after getting their cutie marks, they forgot the cutie marks.

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I don't think they forgot them... It was for dramatic effect.

It is funny that it looks that way though.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:40 pm

This episode reminded me how bad of a teacher Cheerilee is. :-I
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Postby Youtwo (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:43 pm

I absolutely loved this episode, I loved the songs, the story, the fact that the CMC finally did what they've been trying to do for all of this time, and the best of all was that I had no idea that this was going to happen today. Happy 5 years guys, it's been a blast even though I haven't been in this fandom for even a year now. With all of this I feel like I have been a fan for five years lol. :awesomedash:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Oct 10, 2015 4:44 pm

Wayoshi wrote:This episode reminded me how bad of a teacher Cheerilee is. :-I

She had the extra line under her eye post vote count. Like Soarin'.

"I'm sick of your shit, DT" face.
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