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Postby Stone Cold Jane Austen (?) » Sat May 21, 2016 8:10 am

Quick elaboration: I wondered what all the fuss was about for a few months after the Mass Ponytar Eruption and TVIV thread gassing on SA. I watched "Sonic Rainboom" first on YouTube, and then went back to "Dragonshy" and "Swarm of the Century," which is what made me want to watch more of the show. The first "new" episode I caught was "Best Night Ever." After that, I went back to the beginning and rewatched everything in order over the summer. So it just feels strange to reflect that this happened 5 years ago, as it still seems recent in my (admittedly very dodgy) memory.
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Postby VGAddict (?) » Sat May 21, 2016 12:25 pm

I have to say, I'm disappointed with how the "Explore Equestria" theme is being handled. I was hoping for more adventure episodes, more worldbuilding, and going to locations we haven't seen. Instead, we've gone to the Crystal Empire and Manehattan. So far, the only place that's really been explored is the dragon lands.

What do you think? Would you like more of what I just talked about? Or is it fine the way it is?
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 21, 2016 12:38 pm

I'd love to see some different places, such as Las Pegasus and Saddle Arabia. They could also have places like Mount Rushmare with the heads of the four Princesses carved on it. :pcstare:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 21, 2016 1:12 pm

VGAddict wrote:I have to say, I'm disappointed with how the "Explore Equestria" theme is being handled. I was hoping for more adventure episodes, more worldbuilding, and going to locations we haven't seen. Instead, we've gone to the Crystal Empire and Manehattan. So far, the only place that's really been explored is the dragon lands.

What do you think? Would you like more of what I just talked about? Or is it fine the way it is?

Well, we've only seen eight episodes of the season so far, and two of them were the premiere. I think it's a bit early to be grumbling about there not being many episodes outside of Ponyville yet.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sun May 22, 2016 5:25 am

Read a handful of the comics I was behind on... not all, just ones that seemed interesting enough. .. I kinda liked seige of the crystal empire... interesting conclusion and tye in of Cadance... also nice way to balance the scale that got thrown off in the conclusion reverse mirror world.... and sombra's... "not exactly " reveal was hilarious
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sun May 22, 2016 8:15 pm

I started in Jan-Feb 2011. The SA thread and a ton of bad weather made for horsie watch time.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun May 22, 2016 11:38 pm

I was always a fan of ponies growing up. All the way back to G1. But I didn't even realize they came out with G4 until I seen a ton of art for it start to pop up. Lol, I didn't need much convincing to watch it but I didn't start watching it until mid way through season one.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 25, 2016 2:37 pm

I'm in the middle of trying to get an iPad on eBay. While I was thinking about the process of winning an auction, it occurred to me that if eBay existed in Equestria, Rainbow Dash would likely get hooked pretty quickly. I mean, she always felt like the type to buy flashy stuff that she doesn't really need but would look good in her house, so if she could do that while also getting the thrill of beating others at something, I doubt she'd be able to stay away.
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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Wed May 25, 2016 2:43 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:I'm in the middle of trying to get an iPad on eBay. While I was thinking about the process of winning an auction, it occurred to me that if eBay existed in Equestria, Rainbow Dash would likely get hooked pretty quickly. I mean, she always felt like the type to buy flashy stuff that she doesn't really need but would look good in her house, so if she could do that while also getting the thrill of beating others at something, I doubt she'd be able to stay away.

This is me, except not competitive :( I am well known in other circles for my ability to buy something on Amazon and then weeks or months later (pre-orders), be completely and utterly surprised when a thing shows up that I have no recollection of buying.

I was so confused when a giant elf statue from Dragon's Crown showed up at my apartment.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed May 25, 2016 2:55 pm

This was mentioned in the episode thread, worth putting here now that it's confirmed:

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 25, 2016 2:58 pm

Welp, I better go add an alias on the booru.


But seriously though, I'm surprised that a name that Hasbro's lawyers thought was A-OK in S4 suddenly turns out to be problematic. Could whoever holds the rights to Coco Chanel's name really have taken that much offense?
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed May 25, 2016 3:02 pm

All it takes is someone in Coco Chanel's office to threaten action and Hasbro is not going to care enough to keep the name.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Wed May 25, 2016 4:21 pm

Huh, I thought that was just Rarity calling her that and there was nothing more to it :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed May 25, 2016 4:31 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:Huh, I thought that was just Rarity calling her that and there was nothing more to it :pinkieshrug:

The credits pointedly had her named "Miss Pommel," whereas she's been listed as Coco Pommel even as recently as Made In Manehattan.

I wonder now if Hasbro will have to go back and censor her past appearances in the iTunes versons of that episode and RTM, as they did with Derpy in TLR.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu May 26, 2016 2:42 am

I wonder how much legal right Coco Chanel estate has to the name "Coco"? Because "Coco" wasn't even Gabrielle Chanel real name, it was just a nick name they gave her because they associated her with two popular songs at the time with the word "coco" in the name. From what little I know about copy righting names is that you can use someone elses name as long as you spell or pronounce it differently. They had this issue before when they had a hamster in Littlest Pet Shop that had the same name as someone in real life.

Also, this is in France, is it not? Just have them change her name when they translate it into French. It is rather common to localize names that are offensive in other countries. I mean like how many American cartoons in England don't simply change a character's name from "Randy" to a more appropriate one? The France should just do the same.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 26, 2016 12:59 pm

I'm going to be showing more old FiM episodes tonight on the Pasture at 7:30 Eastern, for real this time. We're getting into S2 with tonight's showing.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu May 26, 2016 11:08 pm

Finally the long season end hiatus is over!
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu May 26, 2016 11:28 pm

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 1:33 am

That was a fun one. S2 is really the golden era of pony, and I'm lucky to have lived through it on this forum
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 1:49 am

Golden era in terms of episode quality, or in terms of the fandom? I think seasons 5 and (what we've seen so far of) 6 have been the best as far as the show itself goes, but the first summer and all of S2 into the second summer definitely seem like they were the peak in terms of sheer hype from our fandom.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 4:33 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Golden era in terms of episode quality, or in terms of the fandom? I think seasons 5 and (what we've seen so far of) 6 have been the best as far as the show itself goes, but the first summer and all of S2 into the second summer definitely seem like they were the peak in terms of sheer hype from our fandom.

Both. S5 and 6 have some great eps but quite a few are also stale
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 4:57 pm

Eh nostalgia vision is strong in regards to seasons 1 and 2, for every good episode in those seasons there's a bad or eh one
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 7:30 pm

S2 had some stinkers, but I think it had some of the best episodes of the show. Great character episodes like Hurricane Fluttershy, and Sisterhooves Social. Great comedy episodes like Lesson Zero and It's About Time. Two fantastic two-part episodes. More than makes up for the low points like Mare Do Well, and MMMMystery. I put it at a virtual tie with S1, which was just oozing with charm.

If I had to rank the seasons...


S1 = S2 > S6* > S5 > S3 > S4

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 7:42 pm

Seasons 1 and 2 were good, but I feel like they pale somewhat in comparison to seasons 5 and 6. Like, I feel as if they weren't really fully realizing the potential of the characters, the world, the art, etc., since S1 was still shackled by its E/I rating and S2 was the first baby steps away from that.

S3 was mostly a mess (it seems like it got hampered by a bunch of production issues as well as its short length, but there were still some good episodes regardless) and S4 was kind of the awkward phase where Meghan and the gang were finding their footing in a new world where Twilight has wings and Hasbro wasn't meddling quite nearly so much.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 7:43 pm

There's like... 8 maybe "good" episodes in S2 and the rest range from fine to bad, which is about how all the seasons stack up, although Dragon Quest is still the most disappointing episode in the entire show for me.

As for season 1 I struggle to find an episode from that season I'd put in my top ten anymore.

Not counting season 6 since it isn't finished I'd rank them

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 8:34 pm

The early seasons are fun, but I think a lot of that "golden age" comes from the excitement fans were feeling and the game-changing way the staff took their "moral of the story" kind of show seriously without being overbearingly schmaltzy about it. Now we're used to that, and other shows like Steven Universe have picked up on the same kind of attitude.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 8:40 pm

Also, nearly everything was new back then. Pretty much all the even slightly wacky faces got made into smilies or ponytars, every little song instantly got a hundred remixes, background ponies had huge headcanons and backstories written for them... now, when new stuff happens it gets acknowledged but barely obsessed over at all.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 11:24 pm

I feel that pony's bad episodes are on par with most other show's average episodes, so the overall enjoyment of ponies is better then most other shows. I like Steven Universe but the first half of season one felt dull to me. Like the show was just dragging it's heels waiting for the actually story to begin. While there might have been bad episodes in ponies, I never once thought any of them felt dull to me. So that is a plus side.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Fri May 27, 2016 11:42 pm

Having an unbiased opinion on the earlier seasons is gonna be pretty tough for any of us who started watching during the first few years of the fandom. That period of like, two-to-three-ish years of sustained excitement and enthusiasm clouds things a lot.

From where I'm sitting, S5 holds the current title for best season. After that it gets tricky for me. S1 is a weird, nebulous space where I can't really be sure how good any of it was. I have really fond memories, but it's such a far cry from what we're watching now that I don't really know how I'd place it. S2 is a bit more concrete, and it feels like a precursor to modern FiM in a way that S1 doesn't. My gut instinct is to say that it's in second place.

That leaves S3 and S4 (S6 doesn't get judged until it's finished). It doesn't feel right pitting half a season against a full season, so these two get put side-by-side. S3 has some gems, but we'll never know how great it might've been had Hasbro not taken a hatchet to it. S4 also has some amazing episodes, but I can't put my finger on why I don't love it like some of the others. Too many duds? Forgettable season premiere?

So there you go. S5 > S2 > S4 = S3, and then floating off in it's own little Cloudsdale, ((((S1))))
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sat May 28, 2016 3:32 am

There are some cringe worthy eps in early seasons, where I refuse to watch... I even AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAApaloosa.... or show stoppers... in the newer seasons there's only a couple where I don't really care to pay attention, but if Luna wants to i won't stop her :shrug:
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat May 28, 2016 4:19 pm

PaulloDEC wrote:Having an unbiased opinion on the earlier seasons is gonna be pretty tough for any of us who started watching during the first few years of the fandom.



This is honestly the only thing that makes sense, since the only people that go "season 1 was the best" are consistently people that started watching the show when it started.

I marathoned season 1 in like a week and while yeah it was okay, most of the episodes have been overshadowed by various episodes from subsequent seasons.

Really there's only like four, maybe five episodes from the first season I'd go back and rematch.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat May 28, 2016 9:37 pm

I've watched since the very start, and I think the show only keeps getting better overall.
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Postby Sailor Yue (?) » Sat May 28, 2016 9:45 pm

My top 5 episodes would be the first 2... the magical girl concept is what drew me to the show... imagine my disappointment when it wasn't that way for the whole series :v:

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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun May 29, 2016 11:24 pm

Aramek wrote:I've watched since the very start, and I think the show only keeps getting better overall.

That is how I feel. It started out great and got even greater to the point it overshadowed the first season.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 3:21 pm

It's Thursday, so that means it's time again for more old episodes! Come to the Pasture at 7:30 Eastern tonight and we'll watch four or possibly even five episodes from early in S2.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:39 pm

MDW on tap tonight :notthisshitagain:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Jun 02, 2016 11:28 pm

Rewatch is about to start, get in! http://octagonalpasture.com/r/sereneplural
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:37 am

Got caught up in some things, hope the stream was fun.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 9:55 pm

Oh my gosh! Now I forgot to watch ponies because I was playing Overwatch! Why is that game such an unearthly distraction for me! I'm the worse person ever! :gonkity:

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Postby Sidotsy (?) » Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:29 pm

you missed some real good ponies, Soft Snow. I even asked where you were!
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