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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:55 am

Neat news. I'll be suppressing any excitement for the foreseeable future, though. Three years is far too long to be excited for.

Unrelated, but how does it make sense to suggest that change = running out of ideas? If I decided that, say, I wanted to change one of my characters from a Unicorn into an Alicorn, wouldn't that be an idea in itself? Doesn't change suggest that there actually are ideas present? Wouldn't a lack of ideas result in a show that stayed the same forever?
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:20 am

They have a big budget but it looks like that budget wasn't spent on a renown director. :smirk:

But in all seriousness most of the writers on the show had less then stellar resumes but they do a pretty good job. I think Hasbro wanted a new/fresh director so that there wouldn't be much friction when they tell him to add a toy ad scene. After this movie makes millions and becomes a total success then this guy will become a popular director for kids movies. Really this will be the highlight of anyone's resume. Its such an easy and loved theme it is like pure gold for anyones caree. :v:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 6:52 am

PaulloDEC wrote:Unrelated, but how does it make sense to suggest that change = running out of ideas? If I decided that, say, I wanted to change one of my characters from a Unicorn into an Alicorn, wouldn't that be an idea in itself? Doesn't change suggest that there actually are ideas present? Wouldn't a lack of ideas result in a show that stayed the same forever?

I guess she's trying to say that certain ideas are the ripcord you pull when you've used up all the cool stuff you can think of in the original premise. It's just the assertion that Princess Twilight is the last straw that objectively, undeniably, proves there are no more ideas left in FiM that seems pretty silly.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:01 am

Hasbro Studios president talking a bit about the movie:

http://variety.com/2014/digital/news/ha ... 201334812/
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:20 am

The movie will be within the FIM Continuity. :awesomedash:
https://twitter.com/joeballarini/status ... 6280476672
https://twitter.com/joeballarini/status ... 4182486017

Also it'll have 10x more explosions! :v:
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:42 am

In reality it only has 5x the explosions. The trick is that they explode twice. :v:

Also, I totally called the explosion thing. :yay:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:54 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:I guess he's trying to say that certain ideas are the ripcord you pull when you've used up all the cool stuff you can think of in the original premise. It's just the assertion that Princess Twilight is the last straw that objectively, undeniably, proves there are no more ideas left in FiM that seems pretty silly.


Mmm, I guess so. It's funny really, because cartoons are pretty much the only realm I can think of in which change is the exception rather than the rule. Look at, I don't know, Game of Thrones. That show is constantly changing, from the characters to the locations to the overall story direction. I've almost finished watching Fringe for the first time, and while the core themes have remained consistent, earth-shattering changes to the world and characters are happening every other week. I wonder how it came to be that we expect cartoons not to change?

SoundMonkey44 wrote:The movie will be within the FIM Continuity. :awesomedash:
https://twitter.com/joeballarini/status ... 6280476672
https://twitter.com/joeballarini/status ... 4182486017

Also it'll have 10x more explosions! :v:


Oh man, now things are really getting interesting. I'm starting to think I've underestimated the faith Hasbro have in this IP.

I guess the big question that remains now is what the film will mean for the IP as a whole. Is this a grand finale for the series? I'd struggle to believe that one, personally. A spring-board for big changes to the show that'll refresh it for future TV seasons? Could well be. The end of a TV series and the beginning of a film series? Crazier things have happened.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:03 am

@Paullo Personally My guess at this point is akin to films for long running anime, it'll just be a one big fun one-shot adventure.

Or possibly as you said the start of another big change like MMC was, perhaps to compare to marvel movies if MMC was the show going from phase 1 to phase 2. tthis movie will be going from phase 2 to phase 3. Or something like that. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 9:14 am

SoundMonkey44 wrote:@Paullo Personally My guess at this point is akin to films for long running anime, it'll just be a one big fun one-shot adventure.

Or possibly as you said the start of another big change like MMC was, perhaps to compare to marvel movies if MMC was the show going from phase 1 to phase 2. tthis movie will be going from phase 2 to phase 3. Or something like that. :pinkieshrug:


From a business point-of-view, I just wonder whether any big studio really wants one successful film these days. As you mentioned, we're living in the age of the Marvel Universe films now, a franchise for which I can guarantee every exec in the entertainment business would gladly sell their own grandmother. I can't help but feel that the attitude these days is that if you've got a popular IP, you don't want just one of anything. You want to build your IP in such a way that the money keeps coming.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:31 am

All right, it seems like this supports the idea of it being some sort of finale now. :)
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Postby Marioland1 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:53 am

If this is the grande finale to end all finales, then does this confirm a few more seasons as well? We could very well have a ton more pony just up ahead. I mean, yes, we know Season 5 is coming up, but what about Season6? How about 7 and 8? Just how long will it go?

This puts a lot of questions in my mind. I better not dwell, lest it make me too restless.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 10:54 am

The Smooze Shall Be The Final Boss! :v:

*probably not, but hey I can dream!*

And yeah, I think at the very least a season six is pretty much a lock-in at this point.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:05 am

:sweetiebot: over analyzing mode engaged.

President of Hasbro said this movie will be in connection for pony fans and bronies rather then saying for children or family Which makes sense because the movie will launch seven years after the premiere of the show and the original target audience will be well in their mid teens. Also they said it will have a big budget. Most children movies get a small budget because they think children don't need much to entertain them. The older viewers need more to simulate their imagination requiring a bigger budget.

My analysis is that while this movie will be made with little girls in mind I believe this is intended for bronies. They said bronies were making up most of the movie audience anyway. Most of the money will be coming from bronies. I believe this will be action packed for them.
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Postby ilcane87 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:27 am

The writer also said he was already a big fan of the show, and that he's watched every episode, so now I have more confidence in him. :twasnothin:
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Postby InC (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:33 am

Children are pony fans too, Sobana. :-P

Anyway, Jayson Thiessen retweeted the announcement so it really does look like this will be a scaled-up continuation of what Hasbro has already been doing with the EqG film, and DHX will probably be producing it with a somewhat bigger budget, but probably not more than a few millions. And that's a good thing! Well, maybe not as good as a $100M hand drawn film, but I love how FiM looks and moves, and Flash really is how a movie would look best when making do with the kind of money Hasbro most likely wants to invest in it. I'd love to see what DHX can do with more time and flexibility.
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:43 am

Personally I don't think for a minute this will be a series finale, but I do think it might be a finale for the mane six, if that makes any sense. That is to say, if pony is going to keep growing and changing as to just stopping, I could see this movie being one big hurrah for the mane six as the mane cast, I think they will always be around of course, but well.

It is entirely possible after the movie they could say, pull a Young Justice, do a time skip and have the show move focus to a teenaged Cutie Mark Crusaders, with a reformed Diamond Tiara & Silver Spoon as well perhaps. Or maybe at some point Sunset will return to Equestria and we will see her make her own group of friends consisting of both new & previously introduced ponies she goes on adventures with under the tutalige of Princess Twilight.

Both of thess would be ways to change things up a bit while still keeping the series tied to its core, and seeing the mane six act as mentors to a new group of elements/heroines would be pretty interesting IMO.

And there's plenty of time between now & then to wrap up lingering plot threads like making Dash a full fledged bolt, giving the CMC their marks, giving sunset closer with the human world, etc.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:48 am

Sobana wrote:My analysis is that while this movie will be made with little girls in mind I believe this is intended for bronies. They said bronies were making up most of the movie audience anyway. Most of the money will be coming from bronies. I believe this will be action packed for them.

Where was it said that bronies were making up most of the audience? In that interview with the Hasbro Studios president, he definitely mentioned bronies, but he didn't say we were the majority. Besides, even if Hasbro were making a movie "for" us, just because we're adults doesn't necessarily mean we want it to suddenly turn into an action thriller.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:52 am

I think what the Hasbro president meant is that it would be made to appeal to all audiences while still being tailored and focused towards children.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:59 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:I think what the Hasbro president meant is that it would be made to appeal to all audiences while still being tailored and focused towards children.

That's what I thought it was, and going off of Lauren Faust's old comments, that's what the show is too. I wasn't sure how Sobana came to the conclusion that the movie would be made to appeal primarily to adults.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:00 pm

One thing I'll never understand is the idea that if you gain an unexpected audience even though you weren't aiming your material at them, changing your material to better target them is a good idea at all. You got that audience by doing what you were doing. They came to it because it was different from what they were used to. Don't homogenize away what made it attractive to begin with.


E: I told Jayson Thiessen this directly at one of the old cons. I think they get it.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:07 pm

Exactly. Remember that this fandom came to exist despite the fact that everyone early on thought it was just going to be a bland and lame kid's show, and has continued to exist since then (and while the show has grown up somewhat, it's still one of the best shows for children on TV today). If you're someone who wanted nonstop action, FiM is not the series for you, and I don't know why an FiM movie would suddenly change that.
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Postby InC (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:15 pm

From Thiessen to Meghan, writers and other production staff, pretty much everyone who's ever been asked about the fandom's influence has said they're just doing more of the kid-centered stuff that attracted bronies in the first place and prefer to save fanservice for the background, they definitely get it. It seems to me that the more adventure-y episodes and action sequences appeal a lot more to the kids than to the adult fanbase anyway.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:31 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:That's what I thought it was, and going off of Lauren Faust's old comments, that's what the show is too. I wasn't sure how Sobana came to the conclusion that the movie would be made to appeal primarily to adults.


I don't either and I think the show still follows her vision in that respect. I think that this movie is still meant for children because, honestly, switiching up the target audience at this point is kind of a mistake.
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Postby fenster (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:39 pm

SoundMonkey44 wrote:@Paullo Personally My guess at this point is akin to films for long running anime, it'll just be a one big fun one-shot adventure.



To be honest, those OVAs are almost always disappointing to me almost purely because they usually feel like they have no significance on the overall story for their respective shows. However, for FiM here Canterlot Wedding kind of was an in-show equivalent to that in that it didn't really feel like it tied to any overarching Twilight/Elements plot, and it was still great. My real hope is that it feels like Return of Harmony: something that feels epic but keeps the characters at the core of a conflict, since most other 2 parters always feel like they go for the former and just stay there.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:45 pm

Exactly. I just hope that they can find a way to nail the tone of the show in a 90 minute or more timeslot.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:20 pm

I guess the Tirek fight must of been a confusing lie then. :v:

I imagine the movie will be more like the season four finally then the season one finally.

What do you think the movie will be about if not an epic battle? :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Perrydotto (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:23 pm

My Little Pony is about so much more than just fighting. Some kind of crisis or problem will be there, for sure, but you know that the ponies solve plenty of issues without getting into a battle. I'm pretty sure it can be done for the movie too.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:23 pm

Oh no, it'll have an epic battle or something for sure but what I meant was that I hope it retains that spirit of optimism and slice of life approach to things as well. You can fit a lot more in 90 minutes than you can in 20.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:49 pm

It's a 90 minute slice of life about Pinkie Pie planning a party.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:51 pm

I doubt they are going to give this two hour movie a simple slice-of-life problem that they can fit into any old episode. This is there chance to show the world what this generation is all about. It is going to have a epic battle at the end for sure.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:57 pm

Sobana wrote:This is there chance to show the world what this generation is all about.


120 minutes of Rarity preparing for a fashion show while babysitting Sweetie Belle :twiright:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 1:58 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:It's a 90 minute slice of life about Pinkie Pie planning a party.


I would watch this. In fact, I would buy this on DVD and Blu Ray and treasure it forever.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:00 pm

Only the Ouija board knows at this point...

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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:04 pm

ROBOT B9 wrote:
I would watch this. In fact, I would buy this on DVD and Blu Ray and treasure it forever.

Welcome to the entire G3 series. :-P
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:10 pm

G4 Pinkie Pie would make it a lot better, though. :-D
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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:15 pm

@Sobana
But pony IS'NT about epic battles, it's about watching the characters learn & grow as both individuals & friends. The epic battles & fun world/lore building are just icing on the cake.
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Postby Sobana (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:17 pm

But they already did Pinkie's epic party battle tho. :sweetiefrown:
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:06 pm

Oh cool it's gonna stick to FIM so I guess this does confirm the show will go on until at least around 2017 so that it'll tie into the movie.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:08 pm

Highbrow Dash wrote:It's a 90 minute slice of life about Pinkie Pie planning a party.

Highbrow Dash wrote:
120 minutes of Rarity preparing for a fashion show while babysitting Sweetie Belle :twiright:

I'd watch the shit out of either of these.

Also, I find it quite arrogant to think that MLP is made especially for bronies. Yes, they will give a wink to bronies in the show every now and then, but the show is, was, and always will be made with young girls in mind. That's the way it should be and that's the show that I, and every other brony, fell in love with.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:12 pm

That's how I feel as well. It's the innocent charm of the show, good humour and relentless optimism that makes me love the show so much and I wouldn't want it to lose any of the qualities in the world.
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