S04E24: Equestria Games

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Re: Let's Re-Watch Week 17 : Equestria Games

Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:16 am

I also was a big fan of this one, not only for the games themselves but also for how it showed the character of Spike in a more serious light and it's message. I think it took these heavy themes and dealt with them well.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:11 am

DerFurShur wrote:As for the episode, I still don't get why people want a full episode of just the games. Did they really want Rainbow Dash's rematch with Spitfire and more of Rainbow Dash and the others explaining how various Equestrian sports work?

What we got is pretty much the best we could hope for from the Games.

While you're probably right, it felt a little odd having it be the big season(s) story arc and then... we see the torch, we see Spike moping in his room, RD and Spitfire bump hooves, and ice archery was the one big featured event.

On the other hand, that's proof that this wasn't purely Bird-Things Track & Field. :v:
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:10 am

Discord wrote:Spike, even though not necessarily having full blown depression, is definitely going through a depressive bought here. And it's not exactly the first time where our characters have had false perceptions of themselves either. I don't think I would say mental illness does not exist in MLP outright :ponder:


Spike might get depressed sometimes, just as Twilight might get anxious or Fluttershy might get scared, but the only people you'll ever catch putting a diagnosis to these things is us fans. If Spike gets depressed, it's because something bad happened to him. If Twilight gets anxious, it's because she's under pressure, etc. If those scenarios crop up with any regularity, it's a character trait rather than a mental illness. That might not be fair to say in other fictional worlds, but I think it applies to the world of MLP.

Anyway, that's always been the way I've thought about it. I know a lot of people don't think of fictional worlds as being walled-off from our own world, but I've always maintained that you can't just transpose harsh, human realities (stuff like realistic violence, sex, complex illness) into a show about magical cartoon horses as if the two worlds operated under the same set of rules. But that's a big off-topic discussion for another time I guess.

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:26 am

Bakertoons wrote:That anthem song was cringe worthy, though Pinkie's "NAILED IT!" was funny.

Of course, it was supposed to be embarrassing. I really liked that scene since I've also known what it feels like to be stuck in a situation like that, feeling ashamed of yourself with no easy way out. Thus it makes me sad that so many people seem to have skipped that scene.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 11:46 am

Right on. You're supposed to cringe. And it's one of the rare times (maybe the only time) where Pony has dallied with the "the longer it goes, the funnier it gets" kind of humor, which is playing with fire—it's so easy to get wrong. But they did it well.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:18 pm

Yeah, those kind of jokes can be slightly hard to pull off but MLP did one of the better renderitions of it. You have to hit that sweet spot where it's long enough to be funny but short enough where it doesn't become insufferable.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:37 pm

Perpetual Lurker wrote:This is my favorite episode of the entire show. Mostly because it speaks to me on a very personal level. It may not be about depression, but it certainly applies to it. I know I cried at the end when the lesson was delivered. This episode capped off Spike's long running "self-worth" arc in the best way it possibly could.


InsertAuthorHere wrote:The episode has one of the most wonderfully perfect morals in the entire series. It doesn't matter how talented and wonderful everyone else says you are; none of that matters if you don't have confidence in yourself. It's important not to let past mistakes take control of your life, especially if they weren't that important or lasting. Spike shutting down, doubling down on the embarrassment to try and make things right, and having to be dragged out in public by stern but loving parental figures? Yeah, that's happened to me. Multiple times, in fact. Maybe I should try internalizing the lessons every now and then.


One of the best things this show has going for it is that maybe not every episode is going to be your favorite, but just about everyone here has at least one episode that provokes in them a reaction like these. :allears:
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:50 pm

I liked this episode a lot, but the resolution seems to me like a non sequitur. And that may be a Polsky thing or it may just be a reflection on me personally.

But the cringe comedy is fantastic (shades of "Maud Pie"), Dash has a great attitude throughout, and I'm still amused by "Mr. The Dragon". :lol:
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:18 pm

I understand people's affinity for the moral, but it's hard for me to put this episode in the top third of the series. Top half, sure, it does a decent job. Really wish we had more of the actual Games put in, maybe removing that relatively pointless "mind created fire" scene.

As someone who hates cringe humor, I managed to like the whole song well enough, actually. :-P
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:29 pm

You know, one thing I've hardly seen anyone bring up is the performance of the CMC in their flag-bearing duty. Was there anyone who was upset over that going as quickly as it did? I mean, it got built up at least as much as Ponyville's relay team was, but in the end it didn't end up taking up much of the episode. I thought it was just fine, but so far I've not really seen anyone who wanted them to get more attention than what they did have.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 6:54 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:You know, one thing I've hardly seen anyone bring up is the performance of the CMC in their flag-bearing duty. Was there anyone who was upset over that going as quickly as it did?

Well, we did get a whole episode of it already, and their act doesn't seem to have changed.

I think the only thing I really would have wanted to see added to the Games side of the episode would be more events spread out across earth ponies and unicorns. They don't even have to elaborate much on them; just have 'em chucking horseshoes or something in the background.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Fri Sep 05, 2014 7:06 pm

I think I said it the first time around, but having been behind the scenes in a few events, the portrayal of the event and all its bits like the ponyville flag-bearers in the show was great. Every piece of it seems over very quickly, bit players' parts they've worked hard on aren't much of a big deal, and you certainly can't catch much of it as you're trying to keep all the many ducks in a row.

I'm not sure if they went for this feel intentionally, but it came across great. Everybody complaining about not showing enough of the actual games has never been involved in running any event.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 4:23 am

The last time I watched the Olympics, it took me three damn weeks. They've only got 22 minutes of episode to work with here, so you're not going to get in-depth coverage of Pony Kayaking or Pony Beach Volleyball or the 100-meter Getting Eaten By A Parasprite event.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:24 am

Yeah, I think making it a background event to the episode was the best choice. It allowed the story to be more impacting that way.
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Postby InsertAuthorHere (?) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:41 pm

The thing about the Equestria Games arc was that it was never really about the games. They were always just a means of getting the cast into the situation required for that episode, not unlike a festival or other major event; the only difference was that the same excuse was used over multiple episodes. The only one that really placed emphasis on the events themselves was Rainbow Falls, as the conflict and theme was based entirely around Rainbow Dash's desire to win and fly with the Wonderbolts being weighed against her loyalty to the town that stuck her with a bodybuilder and Fluttershy for her relay. As for the rest:

Just for Sidekicks: The Games are just an excuse to get the Mane 6 out of there so that Spike can become a badly-battered petsitter.
Games Ponies Play: They needed a reason to pull a mistaken identity plot; you could have swapped in any other reason for an official being there and it would have worked the same.
Flight to the Finish: The competition is there to give Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon another avenue to bully the CMC and to make Scootaloo more self-conscious about her inability to fly.

So with all that taken together, it makes sense that the final episode would just use the games as a background event while focusing on one of the actual characters.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:47 pm

There's a reason why even Animalympics ends up being about all these weird out-of-bounds distractions all the athletes get into rather than just a list of competitions.
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Postby RainbowDoubleDash (?) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 6:48 pm

InsertAuthorHere wrote:So with all that taken together, it makes sense that the final episode would just use the games as a background event while focusing on one of the actual characters.


True enough...but on the other hand, intentionally or not the previous games episodes built up the Games as being this fairly important thing, akin to the Olympics. It's kind of a let-down to have Our Heroes at a big sporting event and then barely getting to see any of the sports.

Contrast to, for example, the "Gala" series of episodes in Season 1. Similar forces are in play there -the Gala is just a framing device for each episode - but on the other hand, we did actually get a chance to see the Gala, and have Our Heroes do stuff there and experience the Gala to some greater or lesser extent. Now, true, the Gala essentially just boils down to a herd of ponies standing around talking, so it's easier to work in to an episode than the sporting events.

Even still, the Games remained something that we'd been building towards for two seasons, but it never really paid off.

SOLUTION: Comics! I think, anyway, it'd be neat if we got a two-part comic orbiting around the Games.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 4:21 am

On one hand, the moral is pretty good in that other people might see good things that you don't always see in yourself. I can agree with that.

On the other hand, the resolution sends the message that Spike should like himself, which I strongly disagree with.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 11:58 am

Corpy wrote:On the other hand, the resolution sends the message that Spike should like himself, which I strongly disagree with.

Well, why shouldn't he? :rariwhat:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:10 pm

I always wondered about the scene where Cadence asks a guard to go and help Spike. I don't know what a pony could do to help a dragon light a fire, unless he had a Zippony lighter handy.

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Postby SoundMonkey44 (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:25 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Well, why shouldn't he? :rariwhat:



Corpy is just prejudice against dragons. :rainbert:
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:53 pm

Ranks in my top 5 of S4 eps. So many highlights.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:55 pm

I wouldn't put it in my top 5 but it's up there. I hope we get more of these kind of episodes as well.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 6:56 pm

I am probably at this point (over)saturated with Spike episodes, but even so, this is a good one.

I am very happy with the editorial decision to not detail the games, one, because this is a character driven episode, and it really wouldn’t have contributed anything, and two, because we have already had one episode, incidentally also by Dave Polsky, prominently featuring watching paint dry, and another one, regardless of the chosen discipline, would have been superfluous. It is bad enough that Ponyville somehow wins the majority of medals.

The anthem scene is, even if I do not usually go for cringe humor, astoundingly funny, still leaving me short of breath and in tears at the end (the crying foal is just the perfect coda). I regret not asking Dave Polsky, when at BUCKcon, whether he wrote the words (for ‘lyrics’ is hardly apt), or whether they were ad-libbed. Either way, they are painful.

The true star of this episode is, for me, however, ms. Harshwhinny. She is a joy in every scene, and her exasperation at the squamous celebrity she has to work with is brilliant. Along with Coco Pommel, she is the minor character I most wish to see return in Season 5.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:27 pm

The true star of this episode is, for me, however, ms. Harshwhinny. She is a joy in every scene, and her exasperation at the squamous celebrity she has to work with is brilliant. Along with Coco Pommel, she is the minor character I most wish to see return in Season 5.


Same here, but again I don't know what role she would play. I'm hopeful, though. :allears:
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:34 pm

Maybe she could play a judge for some kind of other event? Or maybe she's just a tourist to Ponyville. Either way, I'd love to see her again as well.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sun Sep 07, 2014 7:41 pm

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Postby Marioland1 (?) » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:36 pm

Well, the time has come for me to watch this episode for the very first time. I'll be keeping this post up-to-date with my thoughts on the episode as I watch it, so this post will probably be incomplete until the episode is over. As Rainbow says right at the start, this just got real, and these thoughts are coming in to the station as soon as I think 'em.

Just a minute in, and Scootaloo is already being awesome. Usually you see Rainbow cheering Scootaloo up, so this is a nice change of pace to see it returned for once.

Spike has a pretty awesome gear-carrying slogan there. He could make a business out of it if he wanted to.

Spike is acting a lot more mature than usual, now that I think about it. He must have learned this from Twilight.

Spike the Brave and Glorious? It sounds like a card from the pony collectible card game. That's a plus for me.

"Hello gorgeous"? That does sound like Spike's attitude, but the voice betrays the fact that a woman is speaking his part.

Is that Cherry Jubilee in the same booth as all of these VIPs? Did she get elected mayor of Dodge Junction or something?

Harshwhinny apparently thinks the dragon that saved the land from Sombra doesn't know how to light a torch. Come on now.

The CMC were adorable with their little performance. It's the truth.

Spike is suddenly Fluttershy.

I like the blue fire. According to my research, the easiest way to get a consistent blue flame is... alcohol? Why does this not surprise me?

How is Rainbow Dash putting on sunglasses going to help things look more natural?

Spike. You can't light fire with your mind. That's a unicorn thing, not a dragon thing.

Man, he's taking it rather hard. I feel bad for the guy.

Disabling spells? That was... random.

Second isn't bad for any flying team with Bulk Biceps, especially for that close of a match.

Spike. What are you doing? You better not make me facepalm.

You made me facepalm, but you made Pinkie happy with it, so I guess I'll let it slide. This time.

Where did Spike get that umbrella? Why did he even have one anyways?

Who won the ice archery competition? Did anybody win at all?

I guess not. Kind of a shame, really.

And then fireworks to end it.

Overall, it was a pretty good episode. Spike's singing was a little bit much for me, but it could only kill off so much of my joy. We got a little growth from Spike and the CMC too, so I've got no real complaints.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:07 am

Marioland1 wrote:Where did Spike get that umbrella? Why did he even have one anyways?

Spike is always a well-prepared butler.

Who won the ice archery competition? Did anybody win at all?

Applejack: Too bad Ponyville doesn't have any ice archers competin'. We don't have anyone to root for.
Pinkie Pie: That's okay. Ponyville has thirty seven medals, and Cloudsdale thirty six, so looks like we'll be medal champs of the Games anyway! Woo-hoo!
Rainbow Dash: But Cloudsdale has two ice archery finalists down there now! If they both place, Cloudsale wins the medal count!

So... whoever won, it wasn't either of the Cloudsdale ponies. Also, none of the four have the same logo. Maybe they were still in the semi-finals.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:17 am

Huh...I never did realise that about the archery competition. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Marioland1 (?) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:24 am

It seemed more to me that nopony won, as everyone fled after the ice cloud fell. I suspect they just cancelled the event after that incident.

Sometimes though, it just takes a fresh pair of eyes to notice it.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:38 am

Still can't believe they did a TSA/racial profiling joke. :gotcha: and that it actually ended up being a plot point, rather than just a throwaway gag.

Then again, if it had been a throwaway gag it would have seemed super duper out-of-character for this show. They don't show stuff like that without it being important in some way to the story (see also the "counting to 10" business).
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:45 am

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Then again, if it had been a throwaway gag it would have seemed super duper out-of-character for this show. They don't show stuff like that without it being important in some way to the story (see also the "counting to 10" business).

FiM has to be careful about that, though. If every joke ends up being important to the story later then that would make things predictable. Besides, it could have just as easily been a joke in the same vein as all the other horsie jokes the show has done, except this time it'd be about magic horsies who have horns on their heads.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:01 pm

True, it would have worked quite well as that kind of gag, much as most of the pegasus worldbuilding stuff in Sonic Rainboom worked. That didn't serve a lot of purpose other than to just indulge Lauren's desire to show Cloudsdale and the weather factory. Pinkie drinking rainbow didn't even come to anything besides a "hot sauce" joke.

Speaking of which, though—I think the whole ice archery idea is possibly the best and most original idea they've come up with since S1. Arrows that freeze parts of the target so you have to cover the whole thing rather than just aiming for the middle? That's imaginative and awesome. And then twisting it to enable the conflict of the rogue cloud is a great expansion on the idea that's just as imaginative yet flows perfectly naturally from it. I'm super happy with how that turned out.



By the way, yeah, the whole "wish we could have seen more events" thing is pretty well lost on me. Just look at how visually incoherent the beginning of the relay scene is; since there's no narration or commentary, it took me a couple of rewinds to really figure out what's going on, how far behind Bulk Biceps is, and so on. The fact that they've designed the show to take full advantage of HD resolutions to allow them to do these wide establishing shots with tiny little characters in them is interesting and innovative, but it does make it hard to tell what's going on unless you're paying really rapt attention. More of the episode being dedicated to scenes like that would have made it that much less watchable.
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Postby Marioland1 (?) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:33 am

You make some good points, not to mention that adding in all of those extra scenes would have wound up making this episode either a 2-parter or incredibly rushed to fit it all in. I'm pretty sure none of us would have wanted that.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 6:38 am

Yeah, the way they built the episode up last and this season, I would have thought THIS would have been the two parter. :v:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:48 pm

Had this been a two-part episode, I feel like it would've taken too much attention off of Spike unless they inflated his scenes in equal proportion with the scenes related directly to the Games, and if we got more scenes of him messing up then that might be too much of... well, of him messing up. (And I know a few people in the original episode thread already thought the episode was making him look like too big of an idiot.) So, unless we saw more of him being treated like royalty by the crystal ponies, or more of Twilight and/or the CMC trying to reassure him, that'd be a problem.
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Postby RainbowDoubleDash (?) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:40 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Had this been a two-part episode, I feel like it would've taken too much attention off of Spike unless they inflated his scenes in equal proportion with the scenes related directly to the Games, and if we got more scenes of him messing up then that might be too much of... well, of him messing up. (And I know a few people in the original episode thread already thought the episode was making him look like too big of an idiot.) So, unless we saw more of him being treated like royalty by the crystal ponies, or more of Twilight and/or the CMC trying to reassure him, that'd be a problem.


Well, we could have cut him from the episode entirely, keep it a one-parter about the Games, and cut one of the bad episodes from the season (Daring Don't or Three's a Crowd, probably) and given it to Spike so that he has space to learn his lesson that isn't concurrent with an event that had been built up for more than a year.

Just a thought.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:49 pm

Then what would it have been? 22 minutes of horsie sporting events? I feel like that would've just turned this episode into shallow pre-finale filler, much like MMMystery on the Friendship Express and Games Ponies Play were. I know there are people who like those sorts of episodes, but I tend to find them rather boring compared to FiM's usual stories.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Wed Sep 10, 2014 3:17 pm

Image Princess...heh...Sparkle, why didn't you bring your dragon friend to light the torch?

:-/ He's not feeling well...he ate too much ice cream.

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