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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:09 pm

I liked the first Thor film, mostly for the flair the Director gave it.

Have to say everything being announced about the 3rd one is sounding good.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:27 pm

Are we really concerned that Thor is going to steal MLP's thunder (pun very much intended)? I mean, they're pretty different films for pretty different audiences, no?
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:33 pm

I'd say Disney and Marvel have successfully kept the Marvel Cinematic Universe as a Family Film affair, so yes, I think there is some overlap.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Nov 17, 2015 10:35 pm

PaulloDEC wrote:Are we really concerned that Thor is going to steal MLP's thunder (pun very much intended)? I mean, they're pretty different films for pretty different audiences, no?

That's the feeling I get. I mean, the Marvel cinematic universe has been pretty good at drawing families in, but I always figured those were families where the kids were all at least teenagers. Something like the FiM movie could be a much better family film, depending on how Hasbro spins it.

Hell, depending on the budget, Hasbro could completely go the other way and aim it entirely at fans of the show. With enough of a marketing blitz aimed at kids who watch FiM (as our fandom definitely doesn't need to be advertised to in that regard), perhaps there'd be enough of them dragging their parents to the movie for Hasbro to recoup the budget.
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Postby Pocket (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:16 am

Fizzbuzz wrote:That's the feeling I get. I mean, the Marvel cinematic universe has been pretty good at drawing families in, but I always figured those were families where the kids were all at least teenagers.

If Marvel movies have succeeding in creating a generation of teenagers who would actually dare to go to the movies with their parents, they have done good work. :jingo:
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Postby MurdER_weapOn '78 (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:42 am

Since it's coming out so late in the year, they could squeeze in another season of FiM before that :ponder:
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Postby Applepie (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:46 am

At least not released the same day as Avatar 2. :smirk:
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Postby Octavia (?) » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:30 pm

The Doctor wrote:Looking it up, now I do think they're sending this to die.


This will be going up directly against Thor: Ragnarok on November 3.

Weird that they're releasing Thor: Ragnarok in Norway 3 months before releasing it in the USA, and it gets released in the rest of Europe a week before it does in the USA. :rariwhat:
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 1:38 pm

So I was watching the Sinbad review by Doug Walker (Nostalgia Critic) and he just loved not only how Eris' was animated and designed, but also voiced.


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And honestly, I would love to see Michelle Pfeifer play the villain in the movie :awesomedash:

Plus the whole constellation room is pretty rad. :allears:
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:48 pm

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:05 pm

I still want to know what happened with Joe Ballarini. It's obvious that he's not working on the movie now, but is any of his story going to end up in the final product? I thought about this since the article you linked said once again that Meghan McCarthy is doing the screenplay.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:08 pm

Wasn't he brought in when Sony was still involved in all this? Because ever since they backed he pretty much dropped off, and Meghan went from "consulting" on the story to being the screenwriter. My guess is that he was the guy Sony demanded be brought on if they were going to be involved.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:12 pm

The news of him writing the movie broke around the same time as the news of Hasbro establishing Allspark Pictures. As such, I guess it's possible he had been working on the movie back while Hasbro was dealing with Sony, then got dumped a while after Hasbro decided to do the movie more independently.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:16 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Wasn't he brought in when Sony was still involved in all this? Because ever since they backed he pretty much dropped off, and Meghan went from "consulting" on the story to being the screenwriter. My guess is that he was the guy Sony demanded be brought on if they were going to be involved.


I'm thinking along the same lines. He was a Sony guy and when they left, he left.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:08 am

From the Toy Fair presentation:

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Film-related cash flow is now part of this investment, most notably in support of our 2017 My Little Pony animated feature. Driving this in 2016, our cash spend is expected to increase to around $60 million before returning to more normalized levels.

So, theoretically, up to $20 million going toward the film this year. Image
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Postby Bumble-B (?) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 3:18 am

SlateSlabrock wrote:From the Toy Fair presentation:

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Film-related cash flow is now part of this investment, most notably in support of our 2017 My Little Pony animated feature. Driving this in 2016, our cash spend is expected to increase to around $60 million before returning to more normalized levels.

So, theoretically, up to $20 million going toward the film this year. Image


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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:50 am

Does cash flow represent how much they made or how much it takes to run it?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:56 am

Soft Snow wrote:Does cash flow represent how much they made or how much it takes to run it?
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Operating Cash Flow (OCF) is a measure of the amount of cash generated by a company's normal business operations. Operating cash flow is important because it indicates whether a company is able to generate sufficient positive cash flow to maintain and grow its operations, or whether it may require external financing.
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:47 pm

SlateSlabrock wrote:From the Toy Fair presentation:

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Film-related cash flow is now part of this investment, most notably in support of our 2017 My Little Pony animated feature. Driving this in 2016, our cash spend is expected to increase to around $60 million before returning to more normalized levels.

So, theoretically, up to $20 million going toward the film this year. Image


Does any of this info give a sense of what the total production budget of the film might be? That's still a big unknown, right?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:52 pm

PaulloDEC wrote:
Does any of this info give a sense of what the total production budget of the film might be? That's still a big unknown, right?

Considering that Hasbro lumped both TV and film expenditures together, I don't think we can tell from this alone. They might've included the budget for EqG in that category as well.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:03 am

Why was there such a huge profit in 2007-2008? That is higher then any year involving FiM. That feels rather unsettling.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:30 am

Soft Snow wrote:Why was there such a huge profit in 2007-2008? That is higher then any year involving FiM. That feels rather unsettling.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:06 am



For a second there I thought that Transformer had pony ears :-I
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:14 am

Oh, I mistakenly thought that chart only showed pony related profits. My bad.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:21 am

Soft Snow wrote:Oh, I mistakenly thought that chart only showed pony related profits. My bad.
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That's how I read that chart, too. I figure that if it included non-MLP revenue then non-MLP TV and film expenditures would also be counted. Then again, maybe the resurgent interest in Transformers was enough to get increased sales of other Hasbro products as well?
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:32 am

The first Transformers movie practically payed for the Hub which is what pushed Hasbro to launch all the new shows for their products.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 12:03 am

I'm curious to know why it takes $20 million to make a pony movie. An entire season, eight and a half hours of run time, costs less then $5 million to make. I'm hoping the movie will be two hours long so that is a quarter of the run time with quadruple the cost. I don't know much about how movies are made so what is the biggest sink hole for making a movie like this?
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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 1:00 am

Soft Snow wrote:I'm curious to know why it takes $20 million to make a pony movie. An entire season, eight and a half hours of run time, costs less then $5 million to make. I'm hoping the movie will be two hours long so that is a quarter of the run time with quadruple the cost. I don't know much about how movies are made so what is the biggest sink hole for making a movie like this?
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To start with, we don't actually know the budget on the film do we? Could be 20 million, or more, or less. 20 million is actually a tiny budget for a theatrically released animated film.

As for the question generally, the answer would be that they want the film to look and sound significantly better than the TV series. That'll mean improvements to every area of production; more time for the writers, designers and musicians to plan, more time for the animators to animate (resulting in more unique animations, more detailed backdrops, more ambitious effects and direction, etc), more expensive guest cast, recording time with a live band/orchestra, etc.

There won't be a single area of production that doesn't receive more money and time, basically. I daresay the show is made on an incredibly tight turnaround, so the time especially will make a big difference.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Mon Feb 15, 2016 6:06 pm

Most of the budget will be to hire big name voice actors of course! Like Patrick Stewart as Starswirl!
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:46 am

I just hope they do a better job advertising the movie then they did with Jem.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:12 am

Soft Snow wrote:I just hope they do a better job advertising the movie then they did with Jem.


Advertising will be interesting. Will they actually try to advertise to a wide audience? Or will this see a release along the lines of the first EQG film? These expectations will also probably factor into the budget. Just what does Hasbro expect from this?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:18 am

I hope they decide to screen it in my state this time.
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Postby Homeswirl (?) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:57 am

The advertised the Canterlot wedding episode out the wazoo (relatively speaking), so it'd be nice if they did the same thing with the movie.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:31 pm

I think the movie will get advertised at least to the same degree as ACW and MMC were, if not more. Given that this looks to be getting a much bigger release than the first EqG films, Hasbro would be stupid to not advertise it hard.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:41 am

DerFurShur wrote:The first Transformers movie practically payed for the Hub which is what pushed Hasbro to launch all the new shows for their products.

What? No. The movie came out in 2007, the joint venture was announced in April 2009. Are you just saying that because they made money with it? With that logic, you could say the movie paid for anything. And as for the second part, of course getting a new channel would make them want to make new shows, that's a no-brainer.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:44 am

Hasbro had to get the money to buy half a tv channel from somewhere and what else had made them a billion dollars lately?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:21 pm

Transformers toy sales, maybe? I mean, Transformers was hugely hyped at the time thanks to the movies, but I expect that Hasbro's profits on the toys were way bigger than their cut of the movie's ticket sales. And My Little Pony was entering into G3.5 at the time and was still selling toys, and they've got other franchises like G.I. Joe and Play-Doh and all their various games and so on. Basically, it's not as if Hasbro was utterly strapped for cash save for Transformers movie-related income.
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Postby ShieldedDiamond (?) » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:08 pm

DerFurShur wrote:Hasbro had to get the money to buy half a tv channel from somewhere and what else had made them a billion dollars lately?

That's the exact kind of logic I was talking about. It doesn't make sense, you could attribute it to anything, and you have no source as you are not a Hasbro insider. For all we know it was furby money. It doesn't matter.

On top of that, the first and second films did not break $1 billion. And would it not be more logical to assume that the Transformer money went to funding more Transformers products, if anything? My point is, you have no source of those numbers aside from "It could be", there's no proof that the money from Transformers went specifically to Hub, and you'll never be able to prove that. There's no correlation.
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Postby mrx1983 (?) » Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:13 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:The news of him writing the movie broke around the same time as the news of Hasbro establishing Allspark Pictures. As such, I guess it's possible he had been working on the movie back while Hasbro was dealing with Sony, then got dumped a while after Hasbro decided to do the movie more independently.

after seeing the new ghostbusters trailer, i'm glad that hasbro don't work with sony.
because sony don't seem to care for fans, it looks like they don't care at all. they will go through this all, and the film will go directly from cinema to the bargain table.
i must say i have nothing against womens as main characters in a movie, i'm very open minded.
but this don't feel like a ghostbusters movie, and i really don't find the trailer that great.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:38 pm

So looks like we'll need to change the topic title since the movie has been pushed up a month to October 6, 2017.
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