S07E08: Hard to Say Anything

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S07E08: Hard to Say Anything

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Wed May 10, 2017 3:26 pm

The CMCs figure out that Big Mac has his first crush and vow to help him win Sugar Belle's heart against the competition of Feather Bangs.


This thread is for discussion of the episode. This episode airs on Treehouse TV in Canada at 11:15 Eastern / 8:15 Pacific on Saturday, May 13!

Official preview clips and images are okay to post, as is speculation about the episode.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Wed May 10, 2017 3:33 pm

Feather Bangs might be the most ridiculous name in pony history
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Postby adiwan (?) » Wed May 10, 2017 3:55 pm

First Smarty Pants, then Cheerilee, then Marble Pie, now Sugar Belle...
All the women are tearing him apart.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed May 10, 2017 4:48 pm

There was a picture of Big Mac and Cheerilee on the CMC wall in Forever Fully. Maybe that true ship isn't dead.

DerFurShur wrote:Feather Bangs might be the most ridiculous name in pony history


:lol: it sounds like a porn name.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Wed May 10, 2017 5:20 pm

Pony names are adorable and silly.

And most of them seem very gender neutral. Feather Bangs might be a lady! Probably not, but, you know.

Also with a name like that, probably a Pegasus. Interracial dating!
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Fri May 12, 2017 5:44 am

So are we following the Canadian schedule now?
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 5:14 am

RudeCyrus wrote:So are we following the Canadian schedule now?

Stuff that airs in Canada gets a GP thread and follows spoiler rules as if it aired here.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 3:40 pm

Well that was ...something

Feather Bangs is like Zephyr Breeze 2.0

Also the song was pretty funny.

R.I.P. all other Big Mac ships.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 3:43 pm

Absolutely adorable throughout.

Also, I 100% forgot Sugar Belle was a Unicorn. I could swear she was an Earth Pony.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 3:44 pm

Really cute episode. Big Mac was great, and I both enjoyed and got a good laugh out of his and Bieber pony - I mean Feather Bang's song. :eeyup:

It was a nice change to have a story set in Starlight's village without Starlight. Image

Feather Bangs even turned out OK in the end.

The CMC have really been on a roll these last few episodes. I know it's routine for a unicorn, but I always like to see Sweetie Belle do magic. :good:
:speakest: The fun has been doubled!
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Postby LingEarth (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 7:37 pm

Wow, three CMC episodes in a row. :scootawoo:

Not fond of this one though. Some funny moments, but the CMC seemed really... off. Staging a situation for Big Mac to rescue her from, really? :-/
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 8:46 pm

It's the CMC. They don't always do the right thing or the sensible thing. But their hearts are usually in the right place.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 9:34 pm

Night in Shining Armor is the palace code phrase that Shining Armor is cheating on Cadance with Luna.


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Postby PaulloDEC (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 10:26 pm

I enjoyed this one. It doesn't reach any dazzling heights, but it avoids the usual pitfalls too. Some funny lines, cute premise, sweet ending. Good start for a new writer.

The Doctor wrote:Night in Shining Armor is the palace code phrase that Shining Armor is cheating on Cadance with Luna.

:gotcha:


I would advise people not to think too deeply about that code name. It... raises questions.
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 10:50 pm

Image Big Macintosh, would you care to be my guest for tea?

Image NO LOVE POTIONS

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:bluh: Brother, you've really gotta let that go.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat May 13, 2017 10:57 pm

PaulloDEC wrote:Good start for a new writer.


Although not too new. Becky Wangberg was a writer, executive assistant, and script coordinator on Fairly Oddparents; an executive assistant and script coordinator on TUFF Puppy; and a writer on the new show Bunsen is a Beast. Good pick for pony show, though!
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 12:18 am

We've been getting a lot of CMCs lately, huh? Not that I'm complaining. Fun episode. Big Mac was ridiculously fun there. Also, I'm amazed that we got to see Starlight's old village without her actually appearing.

Also, fun fact: Not only is this the second episode where the entire Mane Six is absent (the other being Season 6's "On Your Marks"), but this is the first time that none of the lead voice actresses are in an episode; even in "On Your Marks" Tabitha voiced a couple of secondary characters.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 12:27 am

Wait, so in one episode Sweetie Belle is grown enough to appreciate Black Box Experimental Theater and then in this episode she wants to dress up as a pirate spy? A little internal consistency would be nice, show!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 12:28 am

Soft Snow wrote:Wait, so in one episode Sweetie Belle is grown enough to appreciate Black Box Experimental Theater and then in this episode she wants to dress up as a pirate spy? A little internal consistency would be nice, show!
:gonkity:


:unenthused: Like you wouldn't dress up as a Pirate right now if you could.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 12:35 am

Soft Snow wrote:Wait, so in one episode Sweetie Belle is grown enough to appreciate Black Box Experimental Theater and then in this episode she wants to dress up as a pirate spy? A little internal consistency would be nice, show!

That was Apple Bloom who wanted to be a pirate spy. Sweetie Belle was the librarian with a secret past, which sounds more like being overly dramatic in the same way Rarity acted as a detective once.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 12:47 am

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:saddershy: Big Mac is a jerk.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 1:05 am

Technically Apple Bloom was the pirate. Sweetie Belle just wore the classic glasses and moustache combo.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 2:52 am

I can't understate enough just how much the song saved this episode. Kinda cute but really mediocre otherwise, but the song definitely props this one up a few notches, it was that good.

For such a stock love triangle plot there really shouldn't have been any issues... but what the heck was Sugar Belle doing accepting Feather Bangs' advances initially? It was clear she liked Big Mac from the start and that would be the endgame. I was thinking maybe we'd get a couple scenes of her looking distasteful after Feather Bangs left her after the latest advance, but nope none of that. Maybe she was really interested in both of them, but it strikes me as dumb that if she didn't like "all this nonsense" as she eventually said, she wouldn't immediately choose straightforward and honest Big Mac over flashy dumbo Feather Bangs. Really reads like the plot demanded Feather Bangs have some success, so let's write Sugar Belle with no consistency.

Looking at Becky's IMDB, she's been working on some recent Butch Hartman stuff, including a lot of the latest season of Fairly Oddparents, which has really declined. So I can't say I'm surprised the writing wasn't that strong... we'll see what happens if she has another episode.
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sun May 14, 2017 3:56 am

:ngh: No way! We came here to be spies! And no spy I know has ever solved a case that quick!
:smirk: Mmm, how many spies do you know?
:scootatrue: That's... not important. What's important is that we do more recon. Follow my lead!




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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 12:52 am

I'm wondering if there was an audio issue during the song, where Feather Bangs was so auto-tuned you couldn't understand what he was saying.

Or was that deliberate? The Canadian airing's audio is kinda wonky, so I can't tell.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 3:28 am

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:unenthused: Like you wouldn't dress up as a Pirate right now if you could.

You know me so well.
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Marimo wrote:That was Apple Bloom who wanted to be a pirate spy. Sweetie Belle was the librarian with a secret past, which sounds more like being overly dramatic in the same way Rarity acted as a detective once.

I'm well aware of what Sweetie Belle wanted to be. I just like saying pirate spy because it sounds more silly. ...spirate.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 4:30 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I'm wondering if there was an audio issue during the song, where Feather Bangs was so auto-tuned you couldn't understand what he was saying.

Or was that deliberate? The Canadian airing's audio is kinda wonky, so I can't tell.

I think it was deliberate as a parody of Bieber
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 11:19 pm

I think the key thing Mr. Big was asking about was "so auto-tuned you can't understand him". Obviously the auto-tuning itself is intentional, but - while I can't rightly remember - I do think I understood what he was saying. I think.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon May 15, 2017 11:24 pm

I have trouble picking up some words without subtitles even if they're perfectly said (I think I have a minor auditory learning disorder), so I can't rightly judge that. :v:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:11 am

The autotuning gets cranked up every time they cut back to him, so it's intentional.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue May 16, 2017 2:28 am

It was strange that they just brushed off the Cherrilee and Big Mac relationship.


Had her flirting with him in Filli Vanilli...

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Heck, they called it out just a few episodes ago, on the CMC wall of success stories.

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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Tue May 16, 2017 3:05 am

In fairness, the client wall in that episode seems more like, "Everyone we've ever met." Featherweight's on it, over there on the left.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Wed May 17, 2017 11:06 pm

Song was the best part.
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Postby Dexanth (?) » Sat May 20, 2017 3:46 am

Daring Do wrote::ngh: No way! We came here to be spies! And no spy I know has ever solved a case that quick!
:smirk: Mmm, how many spies do you know?
:scootatrue: That's... not important. What's important is that we do more recon. Follow my lead!




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Postby Frith (?) » Mon May 22, 2017 1:50 am

The love triangle plot was a bit too generic for my taste but otherwise it was a nice episode. It's always nice to see Bic Mac in bigger role and he and Sugar Belle were cute together. The song was also funny.
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Tue May 23, 2017 5:09 am

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Postby Lhet (?) » Tue May 23, 2017 8:33 am

Nice fun/silly episode. Hearts and hooves had the better song of course but CMCs were enjoyable here too.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 27, 2017 4:07 pm

I'm normally one to roll my eyes at love triangles, but I think this episode wasn't quite a case of that being played straight. To me it was less that and more about the Crusaders trying to figure out how to resolve one. And since they're dumb teenagers, of course they'd be prone to doing it the dramatic way that always works in literature, film, etc. :lol:

But really though, I think that's a valuable lesson to teach, that relationships don't work that way. That this episode went into that territory while still being funny makes it a great one in my book.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat May 27, 2017 4:12 pm

Even though poor Cheerilee got the short end of the stick on this, I still enjoyed this episode. It was silly and fun.

:iamapony: And for Applebloom's report, "The Pony I Most Look Up To Is A Two Timing Jerk", a big, fat "F".

:annoyed: But Ms. Cheerliee, that wasn't the title of my rep-

:memories: Do you want me to go worse than "F"?
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat May 27, 2017 6:34 pm

I wonder if Feather Bangs was particularly inspired by someone. I mean, I thought he looked vaguely like MandoPony's ponysona, but (even considering how much he was involved with Sibsy) I seriously doubt the show would reference him that much.
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