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My Little Pony: The Movie (2017): The Thread: The Discussion

Postby Wayoshi (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:24 pm

A dark force threatens Ponyville, and the Mane 6 embark on an unforgettable journey beyond Equestria where they meet new friends and exciting challenges on a quest to use the magic of friendship to save their home.


This thread is for discussion of this movie, to be in theaters starting on Friday, October 6!!

Official preview clips and images are okay to post, as is speculation about the movie. Early airings will occur over the week in select places. I ask that you wait until October 6, midnight to post reviews - we have a movie spoiler thread in the spoiler sub-forum in the meantime.

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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:25 pm

Assuming that my friend that for some reason wants to see this movie doesn't set a day, me and my partner will see it on Thursday.

Looking at all the lead-up to this, I'm mostly curious to see if kids who aren't already fans of the show will want to see this movie, because it doesn't look like other animated children's that come out nowadays.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:10 pm

Hmm, I hadn't considered that there'll be a few Thursday showings. I'd been planning all along to see it on release day, but maybe I can go see it the day before instead.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:17 pm

My main reason for wanting to see it Thursday is the timing of the showing, which is at 7. That gives me enough time to get home from work, pick up my partner, and get to the theater. Friday's is at 6:40 and like 9 or something.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:57 pm

I have a ticket to see it at 1950 Friday night. Many ponygoons will be there.

I will hug all of them.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:45 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Hmm, I hadn't considered that there'll be a few Thursday showings.

Senpai didn't notice my posts.
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But, yes, I also plan to watch the Thursday 21:45 showing of the movie.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:58 pm

Aramek wrote:I have a ticket to see it at 1950 Friday night. Many ponygoons will be there.

I will hug all of them.

I wish I were in driving disance of Chicago :wantitneedit:
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Postby Applepie (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:14 pm

How far we come since the first teaser in the spring.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:34 pm

Aramek wrote:I have a ticket to see it at 1950 Friday night. Many ponygoons will be there.

I will hug all of them.


I sure hope you mean 9:50 because 1950 is 2 hours earlier than the rest of us are seeing it.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:42 pm

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I sure hope you mean 9:50 because 1950 is 2 hours earlier than the rest of us are seeing it.

Some places have two showings. The theatre I'm going to has one at 7 o'clock too. I'm going to the 9 o'clock one because I don't get home until 6 o'clock and that show time is a bit early for my tastes.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:29 am

:nnngh: And it's leaked....

:fluttershock: And not some low quality cam rip either.


I am REALLY curious where it came from. HD leaks of movies is pretty rare outside of late December and January when screener copies are sent out for awards season.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:04 am

Octavia wrote:
I sure hope you mean 9:50 because 1950 is 2 hours earlier than the rest of us are seeing it.

D'oh.

Yeah, 2150.

I'm a bit zombo.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:36 pm

Using my magical powers as god-emperor I have made this thread a GLOBAL so that everyone can discuss it everywhere.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:50 pm

Big Boss wrote:Using my magical powers as god-emperor I have made this thread a GLOBAL so that everyone can discuss it everywhere.

You are the wisest of all god-emperors.
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Postby !saak (?) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:34 pm

oh shit this is coming out in like two days?
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Postby theGECK (?) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:55 pm

I now have plans to go watch this on Monday with three amazing girls. They're still under 10 so they don't yet have that "I'm too old for this thing I used to like" thing. :)
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:06 pm

!saak wrote:oh shit this is coming out in like two days?

In America, yes. The Netherlands don't seem to be getting it until October 11; however, if you're prepared to hop down to Germany to see it, they're getting it a day before us, October 5.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:01 pm

So, I've just returned to my hotel room here in Hamburg after watching the original version of MLP The Movie together with a whole bunch of German bronies.

I liked it. It was colourful, it was cute, it was funny, and heart wrenching from time to time. It was the world of Equestria and beyond writ large.

Gah, my train leaves in five hours.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:03 pm

Weekend forecasts are coming and and things are looking more promising for the movie.

Boxoffice.com has update their forecast to 11.9 million.

Deadline is saying $14-$17m
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Postby Auxiliatrix (?) » Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:23 pm

I have had very positive feelings towards the movie (even though I have purposefully avoided trailers/plot details), but I will admit the review embargo is slightly worrying to me. I'm both excited and worried now. :gotcha:


Hoping the film succeeds. I feel like it would be somewhat of a difficult film to guess the success of (given the wide audience and the aforementioned embargo), so I'm taking the box office predictions with a grain of salt.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:29 am

By this time tomorrow I will be watching the pony movie. After years of waiting the time is nearly upon us.
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Also, I found this ad at my local theater.

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Postby BeautifulShy (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:35 am

So I picked up my ticket to the movie today and I am going with 32 other Friends of Megan. Going to be this Saturday at the Tempe Marketplace 16 at 1 pm. I thin the last time I went out to see a mlp movie was in Redlands, CA with the first Equestria Girls movie. Should be an exciting experience.
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Postby PhoolCat (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:56 am

Sadly the designs and animation style puts me right off so much I can't even watch it. :fluttersmith:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:23 pm

PhoolCat wrote:Sadly the designs and animation style puts me right off so much I can't even watch it. :fluttersmith:


It is a bit jarring initially, but I at least grew accustomed after five minutes or so. While the Flash look will probably always be the canonical look for me, the rounded and supple look of the movie grew on me.
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Postby drunkill (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:45 pm

PhoolCat wrote:Sadly the designs and animation style puts me right off so much I can't even watch it. :fluttersmith:


You'll ignore it in 5-10 minutes. See the movie, it is great. Will post thought later after people see it in the cinema (I have to wait til November to do that)
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:46 pm

PhoolCat wrote:Sadly the designs and animation style puts me right off so much I can't even watch it. :fluttersmith:


Seriously I was wary of it after seeing the trailers but the artstyle works great and it's so good :allears:
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Postby Kronos (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:54 pm

Let the stampede commence!
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:23 pm

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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:28 pm



Yeah that's pretty good.

And the gray mare that the 6-year-old sitting behind me at the press screening correctly referred to as Muffins, for that is in fact the character’s name!


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The writer is definitely a fan, though. We'll see how it fares with other critics.
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Postby Octavia (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:37 pm

A bunch of the TRS crew are getting together in Chicago and watching it tomorrow night in theaters. :cooliebelle:
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:41 pm


I was going to share this one because I think it's the best review so far and yeah the reviewer definitely knows the show, name dropping Photo Finish and Look Before You Sleep
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:11 pm

Welp on my way to go watch it. Will fill y'all in once it's all over.

Also if there's one review you should read it should be the IGN one because it's something else.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:00 pm

Two more hours and I'll be on my way to go see it myself. I'm sure to be the only one there drinking alcohol during the movie.
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It is almost a surreal feeling. Having to wait nearly three years for the movie to get it here, thinking that time seemed so far off into the distance that it would never come, now it's happening tonight.
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Postby Kronos (?) » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:35 pm

Movie is pulling a 67% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Honestly better than I thought for the first wave of critics.
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Postby DerFurShur (?) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:00 am

I saw it. That was... something else. Will post my full thoughts when that's allowed

Also I need to start watching Hanazuki
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 1:26 am

Update: I am in the theater waiting for the movie to start. I found three other people in the lobby going to see the movie as well. I took their picture with the permission.
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Postby Soft Snow (?) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:11 am

That movie, whoa nelly! Six other people were there. I told them to come to the Round Stable so helpfully we will get to meet some new friends soon.
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Postby Big Boss (?) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 4:53 am

So I saw the movie in the theater down the street, the 9:45PM early showing. I had nothing better to do tonight, and things conspired against me joining the big Chicagoon group watching this weekend.

The Hanazuki short was cute, but not very deep. The art is actually quite nice to look at, but it had no substance at all. The story is the simplest of stories, and we get no real characterization for Hana. But MAN, did that art look good.

As for the actual horse movie, I left the theater actually wanting to post a huge goddamn review on the front page (and I haven't had anything relating to this show that inspired that feeling in a long time). While there's going to be a ton of wordy and overly wrought reviews coming from elsewhere in the next few days, I'll try to keep my thoughts brief and to the (bullet) point. This is pretty much spoiler free, as I'm waiting to talk "spoiler thoughts" until the movie's been out for a while.

  • The art style and animation. I know people are concerned about this, but different doesn't mean bad. Everything is more fluid and sensical in terms of modeling because they actually have a budget. There's an attention in the movement and framing that can only really be done when you have the bodies and budget to throw at a production. The CG seems to blend in pretty well in movement and context, though I'm sure if you freeze-framed stuff you could probably find things to quibble about. The faces are super expressive, everything moves with a wonderful fluidity. Tons of emoticons will be mined from this movie. It's honestly spoiled the show for me, because they finally got the expressiveness of character movement that the storyboard drawings usually have right into the moving product. Spike especially has none of the stiffness that usually characterizes his model.

    I can describe the design updates as they took some "suggestions" from fanart. The ears are very Topshot, the faces very Egophiliac/WhiteDiamonds. Linework has variation and expression, and several design flaws of the characters are fixed (like Twilight's hair around her horn making sense). The show's designs would not have worked with the way they were drawing the characters for their new range of motions, and the non-pony designs really fit in well with the world. Color and background texture have more detail than ever before. We're a long way from season 1 flash gradients, folks.

    There is, of course, the requisite animation style change for a story sequence, but it's nothing as surreal as live action Gummy or felt Pinkie. Still, it works well in the movie and it stays tonally true to what the series has done before.

    The end credits animation sequence made me smile because, aside from being a well done credits, it had a lot of elements of the kind of style I apply to my work. Color, texture, lineless—it looked a lot like an animated version of some of my posters. It was like actually seeing something that looked like my ideas on the big screen, even though I know that's not the case.
  • AD-wise, Jayson should be very proud of himself and his team. I sure hope someone picks him up to direct his own not-pony film or show, because this guy's still got it and his lack of presence from the show has been felt. He's earned it.
  • The story itself is what you would expect - the ponies go on an epic quest to save the world, but its overall execution is well done. There's no real plot holes to speak of and everyone gets something to do, though some more than others. It's very Twilight-centric, of course, but her character is well served by it. The movie IMO leaves some material on the table by not poking at itself enough, the value of which I'll leave best exercised by the reader.
  • Liev Schrieber is criminally underutilized as the Storm King. He has a great delivery in the lines that he's given, but his character has very little, well, character. He's barely thicker than a cackling cardboard cutout. It felt very much like a Christopher Lloyd in the DuckTales movie type of performance. With a little more work and actual characterization and screen time, we could have had a Hades-level performance from him. At no point in the movie is his motivation or backstory addressed. He's the larger evil force as opposed to Tempest, who does get actual characterization.
  • Tempest, despite her obvious Broken Horn OC Do Not Steal design, is a solid character and Emily Blunt puts in a solid performance. She's another reflection of what Twilight could be if not for friends, and it works really well. It's not the first time they've gone to that well, but it's such a rich well that it will always pay dividends to use another character to examine Twilight. I expected them to have some self-awareness with Tempest, but they never do.
  • The songs. Unfortunately, there's nothing on the level of Smile here, and the movie needed it. They are serviceable to well done, but there's nothing with the catchiness or memorability of, say, You're Welcome lyrics-wise. Score-wise, the movie definitely benefitted from a real orchestra and some new musical cues, as the series has settled into a comfortable rut of background music that hasn't challenged in some time. It was the right tonal shift and it's a great accompaniment for the film. Fans will enjoy the lyrical songs, but the film has nothing that would break into, say, mainstream radio play.
  • Other characters don't get enough screen time or things to do, because there's really just too many characters in the movie. Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie get a lot of great moments, but Rarity, Applejack, and Fluttershy's moments that aren't callbacks can be all counted on one hand. Such is the nature of this kind of film, but they don't get much new ground to tread. Don't get princess fans started, either.

I'd say I'd give the movie a solid B, only dinging it for plot/story and character reasons and the lack of a knockout song. I enjoyed it a lot, and I'd be interested in a sophomore effort on the big screen, but I'm not sure this franchise (in its current incarnation) would be able to make it, time-wise, to a sequel. It would have been an A with a standout song and a better Big Bad and a plot that wasn't something we're used to. But it does a lot of things well and I don't think people will be disappointed with it.
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Postby Highbrow Dash (?) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:37 am

There'll probably be a sequel unless this flops, right? Even if it's direct to video?

They spent so much money on all the art and character rigs, I'd be surprised if they didn't use them for anything else.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:24 am

Just got back from the film. Agreed that the animation style, while definitely weird in trailers, is acceptable on the big screen. I'm still not sold on the faces, but they definitely put the new freedom to great use later on in the film. Also, for me, the earworm of the movie is "Time to be Awesome." It's been stuck in my head ever since the soundtrack came out.

Also, if that's the level of writing required for Hanazuki, I hope Dave Polsky has time to come back to ponies after they get the show launched. :sheepish: It feels like an ad for a F2P phone game.

The first thing that struck me about the opening was... well, actually, the first thing was that pegasi flying above the cloud level is pretty sweet. But the first thing about the story was how different this opening is from the show pilot. Remember back then, when snarky bookworm Twilight won everyone over by proving that she was a down-to-earth taskmaster instead of a friendship-obsessed goof? This movie has definitely moved beyond that.

Now, that's not a problem for us, the faithful, because the show's already earned our respect. But I do wonder how it will play with the parents who get dragged along for the ride. Twilight singing about being a princess of friendship is the kind of thing that would've made a lot of people roll their eyes and turn the show off in episode 1. "Who is this movie meant for?" is a fair question to ask. And for the first ten minutes of the film, "the fans" is clearly the answer, since it's pretty much a montage of every character and catchphrase from the show.

By the way, at least Cadance gets to put up a fight. Image Good thing, too, since I guess Canterlot doesn't have a Royal Guard anymore. Or Starlight. And holy moly, the scenes of enslaved ponies in Canterlot were brutal. Old-timey Sombra is the only time we've ever seen anything like that in the show. I feel like, at some point, the royals would have to start taking the security of Equestria more seriously if this is what literally everywhere outside Equestria is like.

The natural scenery is fantastic. Lots of different places to see, and clearly a strong attempt to recreate the atmosphere of the show. I'm still not sold on the heavy use of CGI for buildings, particularly in Canterlot. Makes the place feel smaller.

The new characters are more decent than I expected. Capper fits the weird, Treasure Planet vibe of the pirate port, and he comes into his own later in the film. The pirates are also a fun bunch. But I wish we saw more of them! The pacing gets pretty weird in the second quarter of the film, and I checked my watch because it felt like the part of the show where they realize they have 5 minutes to wrap things up. Capper wins everyone except Twilight over with a song, Rainbow wins the pirates over with a song... I wish we'd gotten a little more time to chat with them. What was the pirates' deal? Why do they work for the Storm King? How far does his empire extend? These are things I feel like the show would've stepped aside for a moment to address, but the movie rushes past.

It's less of an issue with the hippogriffs, although I have to wonder: Did they send out a call for help? Did Celestia ignore them? Did Celestia even know the Storm King existed? For that matter, does Saddle Arabia? Allegedly they were in town for the festival, but I didn't see them. But I'm getting distracted. Princess Skystar is a cutie, and I like her more than I expected.

The scene after they get kicked out is the one thing that really irks me about this movie: I wish they didn't go for the clichéed, "Well I don't want friends like you!" line to force Twilight away from her friends. It's really bizarre, and I wish they'd gone with just about any other snippy line to justify it. It's a step back even from Discord's shenanigans in "The Return of Harmony." Why not say something like, "I'm trying to save Equestria, whether you care or not!"

For as edgy as her character design is, Tempest is a good character who really projects her motivations well. A shame the Storm King barely exists. I guess that's the price we pay for splitting up Cosmos into evil boss and redeemable bad pony. I guess she's not coming back in the show with a name like that, though.

Oh, one thought: "Rainbow" is a surprisingly mournful song to play over the cheery "we won!" celebration.

So, overall? It was a fun watch. I'm glad they were able to push their artistry harder than before. But for a movie that took at least four years to make, I'm a little confused by the pacing and the breathless way it rushes past supporting cast. I do hope that, if the show lasts long enough, we get a second movie that can be the Rainbow Rocks to this film's Equestria Girls.
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