S05E09: Slice of Life

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Re: S05E09: Slice of Life

Postby Big Boss (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:36 am

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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:53 am

So...who's going to mention the poor pony that got cremated on the way to the wedding?

When the Doctor gets to the alley, it's the Dud- er, "Lebowski Pony" and his two bowling partners. That's Donny on the right.

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When we get to the wedding though...someone's...missing. There's only two ponies there. One seat's gone empty. And there's this funny thing under his arm...

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...waaaait. Is that a Folger's can?

Oh dear. Where have I seen that before?

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Yeah. It's Donny. Post-mortem.

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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:54 am

Holy shit, :lol:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:08 am

How the hell did they get away with that?
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Postby Octavia (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:18 am

oh my god that's amazing
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Postby InsertAuthorHere (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:20 am

The Doctor wrote:How the hell did they get away with that?


Probably because most of the kids in the target demographic haven't seen The Big Lebowski. They would probably just think they were weird ponies who liked to bowl and are holding something funny at the end, while the parents and older fans more in-the-know will see it and recognize the reference.

You can get away with a lot of stuff on kids shows as long as you're clever and sneaky about it.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:20 am

The Doctor wrote:How the hell did they get away with that?


Nobody was shown being dead and cremated, and sometimes a coffee can is full of....coffee, man. Which you'd bring to a wedding. Because every new wedded couple needs coffee.

M.A. Larson, master of >implied implications.

(And with a bit of digging in Larson's archived favorite tweets, we find:)

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Postby Frosthawk (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:23 am

Welp, looks like we've had our first in-episode pony death! :party:
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:26 am

According to Jim it was an idea from one of the stoyboarders that got approved from the layout supervisor.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:32 am

Frosthawk wrote:Welp, looks like we've had our first in-episode pony death! :party:


Hmm. I suppose the funeral in "Hearts and Hooves Day" doesn't count.

:scootawoo: What about this one?
:smirk: Too crispy!
:anticipation: Yeah, you'd know about that one after breakfast!
:amazed: I....I thought that was the double roasted.
:sbahj: Well he is NOW!
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:36 am

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Postby everyponytothelimit (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:36 am

Image Donny was a good bowler, and a good man-

Image -pony.

Image He was- he was one of us, he was a man, pony, a pony who loved the outdoors. And bowling. He died as so many young stallions of his generation, before his time. In your wisdom, Princess, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young ponies...

:dwi: *ahem*

Image Men.

Image Man...

Image THAT'S WHAT I BUCKING SAID WASN'T IT.

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Image *ahem* These young men, pony, man, heroes, gave their lives. And so would Donny. Donny, who loved bowling. And so, Theodore Donald Karabotsos, in accordance with what we think your dying wishes might well have been, we commit your final mortal remains to the bosom of the Ponyville Lake, which you loved so well.

Good night, sweet prince."
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Postby londonarbuckle (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:40 am

They thought he was fatally stung by the bugbear, but it was just a heart attack.
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Postby Corpy (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:31 am

holy crap, that's fucking incredible.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:12 am

Frosthawk wrote:Welp, looks like we've had our first in-episode pony death! :party:


What about Hearts and Hooves Day? We see a pony coffin during the song.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:18 am

ROBOT B9 wrote:
What about Hearts and Hooves Day? We see a pony coffin during the song.


Yeah, but we didn't see that pony -alive- during the episode.

I hope.
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Postby Wylie (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:32 am

Niels Olof wrote:No MST3K discussion is complete without the Bergman parody:



Being from Foreign Lands as you are, I wonder if you get the whole thing there. The final line is a pun on an old beer commercial-"When you're out of Schlitz, you're out of beer."

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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:17 am

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Probably because most of the kids in the target demographic haven't seen The Big Lebowski. They would probably just think they were weird ponies who liked to bowl and are holding something funny at the end, while the parents and older fans more in-the-know will see it and recognize the reference.

You can get away with a lot of stuff on kids shows as long as you're clever and sneaky about it.

Additionally, the can and the empty seat are barely visible behind the rest of the crowd. It's not something that would've been noticed in motion, so only people like us are at all likely to even catch it in the first place.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:27 am

I like to think that the reason for bringing back the Lebowski ponies in the first place was an homage to Lauren/Craig, who put Lebowski stuff in all their cartoons.
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Postby Doctor Wheeze (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:41 pm

Frosthawk wrote:Welp, looks like we've had our first in-episode pony death! :party:

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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:59 pm

Too soon Wheeze. Too soon.

Goodnight, sweet prince. :cry:
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Postby Aramek (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:42 pm

TheNegaverser wrote:Too soon Wheeze. Too soon.

Goodnight, sweet prince. :cry:

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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:53 pm

Aramek wrote:King. :spike101:

I was referencing that William Shakesman guy. He's pretty underground. You may not have heard of him. :twiright:
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Postby Corpy (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:03 pm

TheNegaverser wrote:I was referencing that William Shakesman guy. He's pretty underground. You may not have heard of him. :twiright:

He's been dead 400 years, so I hope he's underground
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Postby TheNegaverser (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:04 pm

I'm done, Corpy. I'm fucking done. :fluttershock:
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Postby Just Scuds (?) » Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:39 pm

The Doctor wrote:How the hell did they get away with that?

Plausible deniability.

:here: :"Sir, I can take that can from you and put it on the gift table if you like."

"Get lost, kid."

:yikes: ...
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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:33 am

Corpy wrote:He's been dead 400 years, so I hope he's underground


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Postby Dexanth (?) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:16 am

Ponies, yet again, wow :awesomedash:
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Postby Corpy (?) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:46 am

TheNegaverser wrote:I'm done, Corpy. I'm fucking done. :fluttershock:

We're not done until I say we're done.
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:17 am

I just rewatched this episode last night before I went to bed. It's amazing all the little things that they slipped into this episode, it'd take several viewings to catch everything.
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Postby WandereringPony (?) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 6:59 am



Notably from the comic, that didn't actually kill Sombra. It just dispersed him temporarily.

(And given the next big 4-parter arc, it appears IDW gets to play with him even more.)
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:06 pm

Wylie wrote:
Being from Foreign Lands as you are, I wonder if you get the whole thing there. The final line is a pun on an old beer commercial-"When you're out of Schlitz, you're out of beer."

:allears: God, MST3K is good.


Thank you, but that part was actually explained to me when I originally saw it. Though having seen Bergman movies (and sat through Ibsen plays) the punchline is not the funniest part to me... it’s the pacing.

As for Donny: Wow, that is pretty nice. I would never have noticed that can (of either ashes, or awful, awful American coffee, there, I said it).
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Postby marshmallow (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:53 am

This is a hyper nitpick and irritation for the wrong reasons, but I did not appreciate the Doctor's "man" joke. Yes, haha, it's both a gender identifier and a way of referring to the human race. But now this is another word that fans will complain about in their quest to enforce preciously twee horse language orthodoxy. Arguably this was already the case, I've seen people raise a fuss if any of the characters are referred to as women (apparently them calling each other "girls" all the time is just peachy keen). But now the show endorses that stupidity, so they can point to this as holy writ.

I generally hate the ridiculous horse language so much of the fandom embraces. Reading "everypony" and "anypony" for long stretches drives me crazy. It started off cute in the show here and there, but now it's all they use. Good lord, just use everybody and everyone. And don't even get me started on when fans complain about calling them "people." Ponies are people, my friend.

At least it was a one off joke, unlike the running "hands" joke in EG.

Does Larson's princess book have non-human sentient races? I almost want to read it just to see if he carries over the same viewpoint as the show or if he drops it like a bad habit. It's like huge swathes of the fandom have never read sci-fi or fantasy and don't realize how silly they're being.
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:54 am

For one thing, holding anything in this episode up as holy writ is going to be a laughable endeavor. If anyone seriously tries doing that I think someone is fully justified in just guffawing in their face.

And beyond that, we know the edges of horse-centric language are blurry and vary from episode to episode. There are plenty of creatures in Equestria that have hands, but they still did the "what are hands" joke in EqG just because it made for a :v: kind of comic beat. So I guess what I'm saying is that internal consistency is already well and truly blown, and having "man" show up here instead of a fourth wall isn't going to change anything about the universe that people weren't already messing with, canonicity or no.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 1:40 pm

I'm someone who is normally annoyed by overly ponified language as well, but the "man" joke was so far out there that I found it funny.
marshmallow wrote:I generally hate the ridiculous horse language so much of the fandom embraces. Reading "everypony" and "anypony" for long stretches drives me crazy. It started off cute in the show here and there, but now it's all they use. Good lord, just use everybody and everyone. And don't even get me started on when fans complain about calling them "people." Ponies are people, my friend.

I think this is one of those things that still lingers largely because it was A Thing back in the early days of S1, when the show seemed highly insistent on the "everypony" thing. As such, that's what got written into early fanfics, which means that it got deeply rooted into our fandom. I feel like that's starting to come out, largely because of how FiM has backed off from that a bit, but it's still there.

(And I know there are people who honestly find those sorts of things cute and/or funny, so I can understand liking that for that reason.)
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Postby Seven Seas (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:27 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:(And I know there are people who honestly find those sorts of things cute and/or funny, so I can understand liking that for that reason.)

I sure do. :pinkieshrug: I think "everypony" is cute, and I'll laugh at a good horse pun any day of the week. I like the fact that these things are a little jarring, because I like being reminded that they're a bunch of little horsies.
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Postby Bremen (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:30 pm

Seven Seas wrote:I sure do. :pinkieshrug: I think "everypony" is cute, and I'll laugh at a good horse pun any day of the week. I like the fact that these things are a little jarring, because I like being reminded that they're a bunch of little horsies.


This is my feeling too. I think it's funny when the show jokes about how they aren't human.
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Postby Master_Twig (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:33 pm

I think it's just fine when the show says everypony. It's just kind of what they do.

It only annoys me when people use it on forums and such, especially when referring to other people on the forum (as opposed to referring to the show characters).
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Postby Headless Horse (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:35 pm

Heh, or when Hasbro indulges them, like "Hey all you ponies out there, ready for a new clip?! :whatsup: "
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Postby ROBOT B9 (?) » Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:52 pm

I don't mind it in the show either. One of my favourite running gags is the nod that, well, they're horsies and it seemes to work well there.
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