S06E03: The Gift of the Maud Pie

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Re: S06E03: The Gift of the Maud Pie

Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:49 pm

Also, some great faces this ep.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:50 pm

rudecyrus wrote:Can't Rarity make a pouch?

Don't know how far in advance Pinkie found out about the pounches being sold, but there probably wasn't enough time for Rarity to make one so it'd be better to buy one already made.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 3:51 pm

Marimo wrote:Don't know how far in advance Pinkie found out about the pounches being sold, but there probably wasn't enough time for Rarity to make one so it'd be better to buy one already made.


:rariwhat: It's a pouch. I could make one in 10 seconds flat.
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Postby RudeCyrus (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:00 pm

Good episode. :allears:
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Postby Mordja (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:00 pm

Maud owns. Mowns.
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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:01 pm

That was great. I love it 5ever.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:01 pm

Aramek wrote:That was great. I love it 5ever.

That's one more than forever!
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:01 pm

:3: that was a cute episode. Pinkie and Rarity interactions are great.


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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:03 pm

Fun episode. I always like to see Maud, hard as a rock when she wants something, like getting the party cannon back. Nice scene with her and Pinkie at the end. :maud:

I got a kick out of Rarity imitating Pinkie Pie. :vogue:
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Postby Mr. Big (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:04 pm

I love that they managed to make Maud's wink uncanny, with the slower timing. It fits her. :maud:

Rarity imitating Pinkie is something that needs to be GIF'd.

Would this count as a bottle episode? There were only four voice actors playing five characters (Pinkie, Rarity, Maud, Police Pony, and that guy Pinkie sold the cannon to). There were ton of new assets, and lots and lots of background ponies, tho.

Also, did they switch the closing music? This is the third episode in a row to use a different music.
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:06 pm

Writing seemed questionable. There were some great funny moments (the tradeback scene and the "don't give me that look" thing in the park), but... Rarity seemed wackier than normal. OOC, some might say. The boutique scene at the end seemed tacked on, too, considering expanding her business and all should be a big development for her. (Granted I didn't get the "tacked on" feel from the other parts mentioning the boutique)

Also, I noticed a couple cases of "hoof hands" when holding something with their mouths would've worked just fine. But maybe that's not just this episode.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:06 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I love that they managed to make Maud's wink uncanny, with the slower timing. It fits her. :maud:

Rarity imitating Pinkie is something that needs to be GIF'd.

Would this count as a bottle episode? There were only four voice actors playing five characters (Pinkie, Rarity, Maud, Police Pony, and that guy Pinkie sold the cannon to). There were ton of new assets, and lots and lots of background ponies, tho.

Also, did they switch the closing music? This is the third episode in a row to use a different music.


Don't think it can count as a bottle episode with all that new stuff. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:11 pm

Anyway, yeah, great stuff today and a fine debut from our new writers here.

Regarding Maud, it's rather nice of her to insist on trading back for the cannon. It seemed to me like she was doing it because so as to teach Pinkie a lesson about generosity. Seeing that, I have to wonder how many times Maud has had to help Pinkie like that while they were growing up?
Daring Do wrote:Writing seemed questionable. There were some great funny moments (the tradeback scene and the "don't give me that look" thing in the park), but... Rarity seemed wackier than normal. OOC, some might say.

You really think so? My take on Rarity has always been that she's nearly as excitable as Pinkie Pie, but she just keeps it hidden beneath a thick layer of charm and class. Look at episodes like Sleepless in Ponyville, for example, where she outwardly grumbled about nature during the whole camping trip, but once they all got to the falls she finally dropped the act and got hyped along with Sweetie Belle and the others.
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Postby Marimo (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:13 pm

So this episode also involved Maud in the group, and we did see this pairing in PYHD (even though Fluttershy was the focus of that one), but could I count this as "Episode on a Mane Six Pairing We Haven't Seen Yet" for my bingo card for Rarity and Pinkie?
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:16 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:Anyway, yeah, great stuff today and a fine debut from our new writers here.

Regarding Maud, it's rather nice of her to insist on trading back for the cannon. It seemed to me like she was doing it because so as to teach Pinkie a lesson about generosity. Seeing that, I have to wonder how many times Maud has had to help Pinkie like that while they were growing up?

You really think so? My take on Rarity has always been that she's nearly as excitable as Pinkie Pie, but she just keeps it hidden beneath a thick layer of charm and class. Look at episodes like Sleepless in Ponyville, for example, where she outwardly grumbled about nature during the whole camping trip, but once they all got to the falls she finally dropped the act and got hyped along with Sweetie Belle and the others.


I'll admit I don't remember the end of that episode too well, but Rarity's excitability elsewhere's.. different, you know? It's funny because it leaks out from her being mostly composed/serious. But here, she was too wacky, too much of the time - No usual Rarity subtlety. Or something.
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Postby Applepie (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:23 pm

Another Manehattan episode well done. :yay:
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:32 pm

I'd call this one a solid average. It told its story, it had some jokes, it reused some gags. Acceptable, not particularly memorable.

It also had a ton of new faces, holy moly.

But most importantly, I get to fill in a square on my bingo card. :gotcha:

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I'll admit I don't remember the end of that episode too well, but Rarity's excitability elsewhere's.. different, you know? It's funny because it leaks out from her being mostly composed/serious. But here, she was too wacky, too much of the time - No usual Rarity subtlety. Or something.

I think she was fine for an episode paired up with Team Wacky Sisters, but she did dial the posh up to 11 in this one.
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:38 pm

Mr. Big wrote:I love that they managed to make Maud's wink uncanny, with the slower timing. It fits her. :maud:

Rarity imitating Pinkie is something that needs to be GIF'd.

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Postby Aramek (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:42 pm

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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:44 pm

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Fizzbuzz wrote:Anyway, yeah, great stuff today and a fine debut from our new writers here.

Regarding Maud, it's rather nice of her to insist on trading back for the cannon. It seemed to me like she was doing it because so as to teach Pinkie a lesson about generosity. Seeing that, I have to wonder how many times Maud has had to help Pinkie like that while they were growing up?

You really think so? My take on Rarity has always been that she's nearly as excitable as Pinkie Pie, but she just keeps it hidden beneath a thick layer of charm and class. Look at episodes like Sleepless in Ponyville, for example, where she outwardly grumbled about nature during the whole camping trip, but once they all got to the falls she finally dropped the act and got hyped along with Sweetie Belle and the others.


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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:45 pm

Daring Do wrote:
I'll admit I don't remember the end of that episode too well, but Rarity's excitability elsewhere's.. different, you know? It's funny because it leaks out from her being mostly composed/serious. But here, she was too wacky, too much of the time - No usual Rarity subtlety. Or something.

It could be a case of her being paired with Pinkie Pie here. Like, that whole bit in the third act where she was asking why Pinkie was so glum, her doing all the usual goofy cartoon stuff that Pinkie does (as Niels Olof just posted) is quite unusual for her. That's the point of the joke there, though. It's funny because Rarity normally isn't like that.

And speaking of visual stuff...
Daring Do wrote:Also, I noticed a couple cases of "hoof hands" when holding something with their mouths would've worked just fine. But maybe that's not just this episode.

It really isn't just this episode. The show's art direction has been evolving towards something a bit cartoonier and less horselike than the way things were back in S1. In that vein I've noticed more cases of hoofhands, of ponies who do normally wear clothes, of somewhat more humanoid poses in general, than what would've flown in the past. Personally I think this is a good thing, as I think the show sticking so hard to what horses should and shouldn't be able to do robbed it of a lot of visual storytelling potential in earlier seasons, but I can understand why others might've found those sorts of self-imposed restrictions charming.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:55 pm

This episode was fine, but mostly due to VAing and animation. The story was borderline weak, especially how Rarity suddenly breaks down with 4 minutes left in the episode to rush the plot along. I didn't get this episode premise when it first came out via the book / Zap2it, but I guess they were going for "presents given with love" in the writer's room, etc.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 4:56 pm

Excitable rarity is always there, just under the surface.
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Postby Fizzbuzz (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:05 pm

Wayoshi wrote:This episode was fine, but mostly due to VAing and animation. The story was borderline weak, especially how Rarity suddenly breaks down with 4 minutes left in the episode to rush the plot along. I didn't get this episode premise when it first came out via the book / Zap2it, but I guess they were going for "presents given with love" in the writer's room, etc.

You really think it felt rushed? If you want episodes that feel rushed, I suggest looking at MMC or It Ain't Easy Being Breezies, two episodes which burned their third acts on stuff not even related to their main conflicts. I think this is another fine example of FiM taking a classic sort of story and spicing it up with its great characters.
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Postby SlateSlabrock (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:10 pm

By the way, lots of movie references in the animation this week.

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Postby die Fledermaus (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:11 pm

I love Rarity and Pinkie as a team, they play off eachother perfectly.
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Postby Daring Do (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:19 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:It could be a case of her being paired with Pinkie Pie here. Like, that whole bit in the third act where she was asking why Pinkie was so glum, her doing all the usual goofy cartoon stuff that Pinkie does (as Niels Olof just posted) is quite unusual for her. That's the point of the joke there, though. It's funny because Rarity normally isn't like that.

And speaking of visual stuff...

It really isn't just this episode. The show's art direction has been evolving towards something a bit cartoonier and less horselike than the way things were back in S1. In that vein I've noticed more cases of hoofhands, of ponies who do normally wear clothes, of somewhat more humanoid poses in general, than what would've flown in the past. Personally I think this is a good thing, as I think the show sticking so hard to what horses should and shouldn't be able to do robbed it of a lot of visual storytelling potential in earlier seasons, but I can understand why others might've found those sorts of self-imposed restrictions charming.

Yeah, I get the joke in that part, and it would've maybe been okay if it was just that one scene (or at least better?), but there was a little too much of it all throughout. And not much sign of "usual Rarity". Like, I can imagine Rarity imitating Pinkie in public, then noticing other ponies staring at her and looking embarrassed. But that didn't happen here, I think.
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Postby LunarRainbow92 (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 5:33 pm

Mr. Big wrote:Not the party cannon! :gonkity:


Believe me I gasped at that part!, I didn't think Pinkie would have it in her to sell her party cannon :fluttersmith:
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Postby SneakHorse (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:03 pm

Great episode. Helps that it was focused on my two favorite characters, but yeah, a great debut for the new writers. Funny, charming, quality animation, basically everything I want out of the show.

Plus, Rarity's Pinkie Pie impersonation was brilliant.
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Postby Wayoshi (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:04 pm

Fizzbuzz wrote:You really think it felt rushed? If you want episodes that feel rushed, I suggest looking at MMC or It Ain't Easy Being Breezies, two episodes which burned their third acts on stuff not even related to their main conflicts. I think this is another fine example of FiM taking a classic sort of story and spicing it up with its great characters.

It's not as blatant as some episodes, but Rarity was handling Maud just fine up until the plot demanded Maud knew about what happened. :pinkieshrug:
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Postby Niels Olof (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 6:57 pm

Allow me to point to the laser focused magic ability of Rarity: Keeping the camera steady while bouncing around like a maniac Pinkie Pie, interrogating said Pie, and being emotionally distraught by her news. Must be handy while browsing her stores for just the right accent during the creative process.
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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:03 pm

Might this be another Hearth's Warming episode, already? I'm about to find out!
  • Same-sex couple on the train? :allears:
  • There could not be two ponies more stoked to visit Manehattan, so I can already expect this ep to rock. (That's not a Maud pun btw.)
  • Maud is also super stoked. I can just tell!
  • Sounds like the other Pie sisters won't be making an appearance, though. Oh well!
  • :maud: 30 Rock :maud:
  • Rarity's skating outfit :iiaia:
  • Such great faces this episode. And voice work. I could basically watch these ponies tour Manehattan for hours, plot optional.
  • I know it's obvious enough, but this seems like the first real confirmation that moons = months.
  • Theme :gotcha:
  • Scepter :lol:
  • :deflated: "Is there a third option? Can we trade Fluttershy into slavery again?"
  • Rarity doing a Pinkie Pie impression is a dream come true. :vogue:
  • Oh shit, Maud is pissed.
  • Maud Sense :lol:
  • Is that Suri in the background?!
  • Maud's eyeshadow blends in with the background.

Nano-review: Slice of life just the way I like it :awesome:
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Postby PonyHag714 (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:12 pm

I liked the Promaretheus statue at the skating rink. Nice how they didn't forget those details that mirror the real life Manhattan. :party:

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Postby Mechanical Ape (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 7:14 pm

:gonkity: "But Pinkie, you can't trade away your party cannon! It's been integral to your character for four seasons! You fire it at every get-together!"
:maud: "You might say it's ... party canon."
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Postby Octavia (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:23 pm

Really liked the episode. Definitely very Gift of the Magi.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:00 pm

Mechanical Ape wrote:Might this be another Hearth's Warming episode, already? I'm about to find out![list]
[*] Same-sex couple on the train? :allears:


If you mean these two, they were seen last season (can't remember which episode though). It's a movie reference.

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Postby Angel Beat (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:01 pm

Aaaah oh gosh, this episode was so cute!

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Postby ToastGhost (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 9:55 pm

Man here I am semi-caught up and posting about ponies what has this world come to, on ponyday even.

  • Oh yeah what do you know, gay couple on the train, cute Thought there was something up with his facial expression. Still some pretty good stallions this year. :3:
  • The amount of detail that goes into the background design shows dedication and proof that the show will probably get at least another season. Who knows how long this pony train will last.
  • For every 2 good expressions there was one okay one and another :starity: one. Or some ratio of that. I feel like Pinkie falls prey to a lot of human-expressions-but-on-ponies.
  • On the topic of facial expressions, Maud has... about 3 that she uses at any given time based on her mood. They're all excellent
  • My opinions on Rarity are likely weighted due to gangtag but some consistently excellent voice acting, especially the Pinkie Impression. Might be an easy lay-up, but can't fault them if it's done well. :vogue:
  • Did... did you really just make pinkie say 5ever. what has this world come to.
  • Real swans we can ride- okay, that's pretty dang good as far as bits go but I swear I've heard something similar done somewhere else. Futurama maybe?
  • The acronym game isn't that funny, I think it's been done before by the show, nothing new to see here.
  • Alright, the bit with returning the pouch is excellent. Maud is the funniest part, dropping the please on the third time legitimately cracked me up
  • Maud winking, perfect in every way. How can you even describe the sound of a wink, it was just spot on.
  • Rarity For You eh... do I smell I toy pitch? :squintyjack:
  • Maud saying 5ever... slightly better. :maud:
  • Maud sense and teleportation. Runs in the family.
  • So I guess there's no usual outro song anymore, it's just whatever goes at the time? Did that change some time ago and I just never noticed? :pinkieshrug:
  • As a sort of afterward and longer more thought out post, I believe the show has grown much like the simpsons in just the sheer amount of characters that are now given time to side characters. Characters that were brought out once have been brought back, reformed and brought into the cast, given entire episodes based off an early name drop in the case of Moondancer, it can feel almost a bit crowded at times. That's not to complain about this episode since Maud is a fantastic character for various reasons, but just an observation I've noticed.

Overall, pretty good, some great writing, some not so great, but good slice-of-life ponies being silly which is what most of us like to see if I'm not mistaken.

It's what I like to see at least. :crack:
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Postby Captain Rufus (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:48 pm

It was fun but mostly harmless and forgettable. Even with Rarity who is 2nd best Pony and Maud who is probably best secondary character Pony.

Though the Party Cannon really is like Optimus Prime's trailer isn't it? When it's a plot point it shows up, otherwise it is merely there in the background.
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Postby The Doctor (?) » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:50 pm

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